Devastation Fist

nyven0 · 08-28-2005, 08:08 PM

Just a quick question where can you get a better version of devastion fist App II since i can find the adept III for everyother class but not this one. that came out with bloodline chronicles. nyven0

GDeWan · 08-28-2005, 08:11 PM

You don't. It doesn't exist. I am a level 50 alchemist, and the recipie books that came with Bloodlines don't include it.

Bewts · 08-29-2005, 01:41 AM

the above poster would be correct. All other bloodlines essences have adept3 upgrades in our books, and only the monk version was left out.

Teidilu · 08-29-2005, 02:39 AM

Bewts wrote:
the above poster would be correct. All other bloodlines essences have adept3 upgrades in our books, and only the monk version was left out.

why do poeple so often forget abou bruisers?! just somethin that frustrates me to no end *sigh*

sorry

Cusashorn · 08-29-2005, 04:37 AM

The reason there isn't an upgrade is because Instant Death spells can't be upgrades.

Teidilu · 08-29-2005, 07:32 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

The reason there isn't an upgrade is because Instant Death spells can't be upgrades.

lol oh yea, i was gonna say that but posted what i did instead SMILEY

Kronadin · 08-29-2005, 12:49 PM

How do you want to upgrade your instant-death spell? Kill the mob instantly plus catapult it into the sky? :smileyvery-happy:

Teidilu · 08-29-2005, 02:57 PM

Kronadin wrote:
How do you want to upgrade your instant-death spell? Kill the mob instantly plus catapult it into the sky? :smileyvery-happy:

omg... SoE... im begging you **gets on knees for [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] kissin/begging lvl**

NamaeZero · 08-29-2005, 06:08 PM

223% damage?

Jezekie · 08-29-2005, 06:15 PM

The spell rank has been removed on beta BTW, so it no longer shows up as App2 and misleading people in to thinking they can upgrade it when they can't.

Sa'meria · 08-30-2005, 12:12 AM

Anyone on beta know if they increased the mob levels it can be used on, or is it still capped at 50?

Cusashorn · 08-30-2005, 01:27 AM

I just want them to release it so that I can get it without the Bloodlines pack. I don't want to pay *ANOTHER* 8 dollars to buy it *AGAIN*.

And the spell description says that it only works on solo mobs of equal or lower level, so that doesn't mean it's capped at 50. It just means we haven't hit 51 yet to test it out.

bonesbro · 08-30-2005, 01:47 AM

No, the spell description states that it only works on mobs level 50 or lower. There are level 51 and higher mobs around that are immune to it.

Sa'meria · 08-30-2005, 04:13 PM

bonesbro wrote:
No, the spell description states that it only works on mobs level 50 or lower. There are level 51 and higher mobs around that are immune to it.

Yea, I noticed that on the live server description, but didnt know if they were changing it from the expansion pack.

Cusashorn · 08-30-2005, 05:32 PM

Well I remember when Bloodlines first came out, the spell description said "Equal or Lesser level" than the user... I don't have the skill, though I do want to get it. All I'm saying is: How do we know it only works up to 50? the description may be wrong..

just my 2 cents.

stfields · 08-30-2005, 07:35 PM

All I'm saying is: How do we know it only works up to 50? the description may be wrong

SOE is notorious for their inaccurate descriptions (Think FD). There are level 51+ mobs around that you would expect DF to possibly work on. It doesn't.

Consider that in Acts of War, all of those level 50 mobs that run out at your raid force can all be DFed to death whether your monk is 40 or 50. The DF always hit mobs higher than you, the description was wrong. However, there are level 51(no arrow mobs) that are in raid instances that cannot be killed by DF.

Don't count on it working past 50.

Gaige · 09-01-2005, 11:26 PM

They've changed the FD descriptions finally with DoF.

HumD · 09-02-2005, 08:47 AM

Any idea if htis will work in PvP? if so, can we just 1 hit kill anyone lvl 50 or below?

NamaeZero · 09-02-2005, 05:59 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if Devasation Fist works in PvP at all, it will probably be only on pets, and not PC's. So it will make us great at killing Necromancers and Conjurers, I suppose.

One hit kills work very poorly in a PvP situation from a balance perspective, historically. I doubt they will let Brawlers have something like this, but I would be interesting to hear how it's working on Beta or Test.

geospa · 09-20-2005, 07:38 PM

Ok so let me get this straight... this is a skill for monks or for bruisers? or for both? .... Where do u start this quest for the skill? Thank you in advance.

Gaige · 09-21-2005, 12:53 AM

Its a brawler skill so both of us can use it. It was part of the BLC adventure pack, and its aquired from the merchant after doing the first 3 or 4 quests for your specific camp in Nektulos Forest.

geospa · 09-21-2005, 05:19 PM

What lvl is this skill for? is it worth getting now that im lvl 46? or should i just forget about it? Do i actually have to get the adventure pack? or can i just do the quest because i already have the DoF expansion?

Xxooo-Coav · 09-21-2005, 06:36 PM

If upgrades could exist, they could increase the level of effectiveness, or the tier of effectiveness, or reduce reuse time.

Currently, it works only on lvl 50 or below. It does not work on ^/^^/^^^ heroics (or solo mobs for that matter) nor named.

5min reuse time with a (I think now) 11sec stifle.

geospa · 09-21-2005, 07:52 PM

What is the name of the Quest to get this skill?? I'm trying to look up a walkthrough for it but i don't know what it's called. And what i actully ment is ... what level is the Devastation Fist for ( meaning starting with what level monk i can use it ). Thankx in advance.

bonesbro · 09-21-2005, 08:03 PM

Xxooo-Coav wrote:
If upgrades could exist, they could increase the level of effectiveness, or the tier of effectiveness, or reduce reuse time.

Currently, it works only on lvl 50 or below. It does not work on ^/^^/^^^ heroics (or solo mobs for that matter) nor named.

5min reuse time with a (I think now) 11sec stifle.

It is no longer capped at level 50. I've been deathtouching level 58s in DoF. It also no longer shares a reuse timer with Freezing Palm. It's my favorite skill ever.

shaolen · 10-06-2005, 09:12 AM

I spent the last couple of nights doing the quests so I can buy the spell from the vendor. I did the 3rd quest checked the vendor no Devastation Fist. I completed the 4th quest and went back to the vendor, still no DF. The other classes spells were there along with crafting books etc... Does anyone know if DF has been removed from the vendor or have they changed the amount of quests needed? Thanks in advance.

Well I checked the bloodlines forum and my question was sort of answered with this post. :smileymad:

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=apbc&message.id=2749

Message Edited by shaolen on 10-06-2005 01:19 AM

Krayzon · 10-06-2005, 05:50 PM

I am still confused. So the craft book can be purchased and the spell made for us instead of completing a certain amount of quests in BLC or do we still have to do the quests for it?

Thanks.

Krayzun

shaolen · 10-06-2005, 07:36 PM

From the information I have seen the only way we could get the spell was to purchase it from the vendor after doing the quests. The receipe was never in any books. But now it is not even available at the vendor.

Thunderstump · 10-11-2005, 03:50 AM

Is the Devastation Fist removed for new players? I also made the 3rd quest (evil side), checked the vendor, all other spells there, but no Fist. I made a petition about it, and got the reply that it was removed in the Combat Changes. If so, why does everyone else have it? And why didn't we get a replacement Bloodline spell?

Is there anyone that managed to get this after the Combat Changes, if so, how many quests was needed to be done, or did you get it elsewhere?

Owa · 10-11-2005, 11:20 AM

I got Devastation Fist after completing the 'Mysterious Artifacts' quest for the 'evil' team. This was sometime in the last few days and DEFINITELY AFTER the combat revamp.

08-29-2005, 02:39 AM	#4
Teidilu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 104	Bewts wrote: the above poster would be correct. All other bloodlines essences have adept3 upgrades in our books, and only the monk version was left out. why do poeple so often forget abou bruisers?! just somethin that frustrates me to no end sigh sorry

08-29-2005, 07:32 AM	#6
Teidilu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 104	Cusashorn wrote: The reason there isn't an upgrade is because Instant Death spells can't be upgrades. lol oh yea, i was gonna say that but posted what i did instead

08-29-2005, 12:49 PM	#7
Kronadin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 154	How do you want to upgrade your instant-death spell? Kill the mob instantly plus catapult it into the sky? :smileyvery-happy: __________________

08-29-2005, 02:57 PM	#8
Teidilu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 104	Kronadin wrote: How do you want to upgrade your instant-death spell? Kill the mob instantly plus catapult it into the sky? :smileyvery-happy: omg... SoE... im begging you gets on knees for [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] kissin/begging lvl

08-29-2005, 06:15 PM	#10
Jezekie General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,136	The spell rank has been removed on beta BTW, so it no longer shows up as App2 and misleading people in to thinking they can upgrade it when they can't. __________________ ---------------------------- Retired

08-28-2005, 08:08 PM	#1
nyven0 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1	Just a quick question where can you get a better version of devastion fist App II since i can find the adept III for everyother class but not this one. that came out with bloodline chronicles. nyven0

08-28-2005, 08:11 PM	#2
GDeWan Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	You don't. It doesn't exist. I am a level 50 alchemist, and the recipie books that came with Bloodlines don't include it.

08-29-2005, 01:41 AM	#3
Bewts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 323	the above poster would be correct. All other bloodlines essences have adept3 upgrades in our books, and only the monk version was left out.

08-29-2005, 04:37 AM	#5
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	The reason there isn't an upgrade is because Instant Death spells can't be upgrades.

08-29-2005, 06:08 PM	#9
NamaeZero Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 242	223% damage?

08-30-2005, 12:12 AM	#11
Sa'meria Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 112	Anyone on beta know if they increased the mob levels it can be used on, or is it still capped at 50? __________________ Samerat - Mystic of Strike Sameria - 70 Monk/70 Alchemist/70 Transmuter Sammeria - 5 star Chef Ekoj Atsuj - Wizzy

08-30-2005, 01:27 AM	#12
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	I just want them to release it so that I can get it without the Bloodlines pack. I don't want to pay ANOTHER 8 dollars to buy it AGAIN. And the spell description says that it only works on solo mobs of equal or lower level, so that doesn't mean it's capped at 50. It just means we haven't hit 51 yet to test it out.

08-30-2005, 01:47 AM	#13
bonesbro Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 651	No, the spell description states that it only works on mobs level 50 or lower. There are level 51 and higher mobs around that are immune to it. __________________ Legond of Najena, Monk Ancient.

08-30-2005, 04:13 PM	#14
Sa'meria Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 112	bonesbro wrote: No, the spell description states that it only works on mobs level 50 or lower. There are level 51 and higher mobs around that are immune to it. Yea, I noticed that on the live server description, but didnt know if they were changing it from the expansion pack. __________________ Samerat - Mystic of Strike Sameria - 70 Monk/70 Alchemist/70 Transmuter Sammeria - 5 star Chef Ekoj Atsuj - Wizzy

08-30-2005, 05:32 PM	#15
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Well I remember when Bloodlines first came out, the spell description said "Equal or Lesser level" than the user... I don't have the skill, though I do want to get it. All I'm saying is: How do we know it only works up to 50? the description may be wrong.. just my 2 cents.

08-30-2005, 07:35 PM	#16
stfields Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 295	All I'm saying is: How do we know it only works up to 50? the description may be wrong SOE is notorious for their inaccurate descriptions (Think FD). There are level 51+ mobs around that you would expect DF to possibly work on. It doesn't. Consider that in Acts of War, all of those level 50 mobs that run out at your raid force can all be DFed to death whether your monk is 40 or 50. The DF always hit mobs higher than you, the description was wrong. However, there are level 51(no arrow mobs) that are in raid instances that cannot be killed by DF. Don't count on it working past 50. __________________ ~Taveren Kinslayer~ 60 Armorer/Alchemist/Jeweler 60 Weaponsmith/Sage/Woodworker 60 Monk ~ RETIRED

09-01-2005, 11:26 PM	#17
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	They've changed the FD descriptions finally with DoF. __________________

09-02-2005, 08:47 AM	#18
HumD Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Any idea if htis will work in PvP? if so, can we just 1 hit kill anyone lvl 50 or below?

09-02-2005, 05:59 PM	#19
NamaeZero Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 242	I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if Devasation Fist works in PvP at all, it will probably be only on pets, and not PC's. So it will make us great at killing Necromancers and Conjurers, I suppose. One hit kills work very poorly in a PvP situation from a balance perspective, historically. I doubt they will let Brawlers have something like this, but I would be interesting to hear how it's working on Beta or Test.

09-20-2005, 07:38 PM	#20
geospa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 50	Ok so let me get this straight... this is a skill for monks or for bruisers? or for both? .... Where do u start this quest for the skill? Thank you in advance. __________________ geospawn Barbarian Monk lvl 58 Crushbone

09-21-2005, 12:53 AM	#21
Gaige Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,500	Its a brawler skill so both of us can use it. It was part of the BLC adventure pack, and its aquired from the merchant after doing the first 3 or 4 quests for your specific camp in Nektulos Forest. __________________

09-21-2005, 05:19 PM	#22
geospa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 50	What lvl is this skill for? is it worth getting now that im lvl 46? or should i just forget about it? Do i actually have to get the adventure pack? or can i just do the quest because i already have the DoF expansion? __________________ geospawn Barbarian Monk lvl 58 Crushbone

09-21-2005, 06:36 PM	#23
Xxooo-Coav Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Permafrost/Venekor Posts: 173	If upgrades could exist, they could increase the level of effectiveness, or the tier of effectiveness, or reduce reuse time. Currently, it works only on lvl 50 or below. It does not work on ^/^^/^^^ heroics (or solo mobs for that matter) nor named. 5min reuse time with a (I think now) 11sec stifle. __________________

09-21-2005, 07:52 PM	#24
geospa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 50	What is the name of the Quest to get this skill?? I'm trying to look up a walkthrough for it but i don't know what it's called. And what i actully ment is ... what level is the Devastation Fist for ( meaning starting with what level monk i can use it ). Thankx in advance. __________________ geospawn Barbarian Monk lvl 58 Crushbone

09-21-2005, 08:03 PM	#25
bonesbro Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 651	Xxooo-Coav wrote: If upgrades could exist, they could increase the level of effectiveness, or the tier of effectiveness, or reduce reuse time. Currently, it works only on lvl 50 or below. It does not work on ^/^^/^^^ heroics (or solo mobs for that matter) nor named. 5min reuse time with a (I think now) 11sec stifle. It is no longer capped at level 50. I've been deathtouching level 58s in DoF. It also no longer shares a reuse timer with Freezing Palm. It's my favorite skill ever. __________________ Legond of Najena, Monk Ancient.

10-06-2005, 09:12 AM	#26
shaolen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 129	I spent the last couple of nights doing the quests so I can buy the spell from the vendor. I did the 3rd quest checked the vendor no Devastation Fist. I completed the 4th quest and went back to the vendor, still no DF. The other classes spells were there along with crafting books etc... Does anyone know if DF has been removed from the vendor or have they changed the amount of quests needed? Thanks in advance. Well I checked the bloodlines forum and my question was sort of answered with this post. :smileymad: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=apbc&message.id=2749 Message Edited by shaolen on 10-06-2005 01:19 AM __________________

10-06-2005, 05:50 PM	#27
Krayzon Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21	I am still confused. So the craft book can be purchased and the spell made for us instead of completing a certain amount of quests in BLC or do we still have to do the quests for it? Thanks. Krayzun

10-06-2005, 07:36 PM	#28
shaolen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 129	From the information I have seen the only way we could get the spell was to purchase it from the vendor after doing the quests. The receipe was never in any books. But now it is not even available at the vendor. __________________

10-11-2005, 03:50 AM	#29
Thunderstump Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	Is the Devastation Fist removed for new players? I also made the 3rd quest (evil side), checked the vendor, all other spells there, but no Fist. I made a petition about it, and got the reply that it was removed in the Combat Changes. If so, why does everyone else have it? And why didn't we get a replacement Bloodline spell? Is there anyone that managed to get this after the Combat Changes, if so, how many quests was needed to be done, or did you get it elsewhere? __________________

10-11-2005, 11:20 AM	#30
Owa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 944	I got Devastation Fist after completing the 'Mysterious Artifacts' quest for the 'evil' team. This was sometime in the last few days and DEFINITELY AFTER the combat revamp. __________________