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ttobey
03-15-2012, 01:38 PM
<p>Please post feed back for new NPCs art issues here.</p>
Cyliena
03-15-2012, 02:21 PM
<p><span><p>Reposted NPC comments from my other threads:</p><p><strong>Merchants/Banker/Broker</strong> - Not seeing any of these in Withered Lands. <img src="../images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> (only found a mender)</p><p><strong>Combine Guards</strong> - Can't ask guards in the New Combine Foothold for directions.</p><p><span><strong>Porto Bunglefoot</strong> - I can see that he/she wants to give me a quest all the way over on the opposite side of the zone.</span></p><p>edit: Cronyn replied to all of these in the other thread. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></span></p>
ttobey
03-15-2012, 02:36 PM
<p>OK, that's probably good in the other thread. I'm looking more for art bugs here.</p>
Morghus
03-15-2012, 03:23 PM
<p>Honvar the dragon seems to have an abnormal amount of issues with the terrain, and appears sometimes upside down, or at weird angles while walking around.</p><p>The quest "scattered to the wind" caused me to enter an infinite animation loop when they pick up any of the pages.</p>
ttobey
03-15-2012, 03:34 PM
<p><cite>Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The quest "scattered to the wind" caused me to enter an infinite animation loop when they pick up any of the pages.</p></blockquote><p>What were you doing while looping?</p>
Cronyn
03-15-2012, 03:40 PM
<p>It's a quest bug, Tom. It's got "loopstate" instead of "dostate". It's fixed. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Morghus
03-15-2012, 03:49 PM
<p>Lady Nevedaria, the dragon seems to go into the idle animation a little too often, which makes it a bit difficult to read the text properly since the head moves along with it. Long standing text bubble issues with large npcs apply as well, requiring players to basically stand underneath the npc while looking up to see their dialog.</p>
Cronyn
03-15-2012, 03:50 PM
<p>... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Morghus
03-15-2012, 03:55 PM
<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Is she not supposed to appear until the village quests are done? Because I finished those and was eventually sent to speak with her, but she was there before hand as well.</p>
Cronyn
03-15-2012, 03:58 PM
<p><cite>Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Is she not supposed to appear until the village quests are done? Because I finished those and was eventually sent to speak with her, but she was there before hand as well.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, it's at the end of the quest, when he says, "OMG go talk to her!!" - THEN she's supposed to show up.</p><p>It's fixed here already, just didn't make the patch yesterday. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Tylia
03-15-2012, 05:19 PM
<p>I was doing a quest from the captain in the New Combine starting area in which I had to go talk to a satyr NPC named Silnis in the Mourning Sanctuary. I found the sanctuary, but I did not find an NPC named Silnis. I did, however, find one named Silnas who had a quest feather. Silnis was MIA for my quest update.</p><p>Edited to add: I'm sorry, I'm not in game so I don't know what the name of the quest is atm.</p>
Cronyn
03-15-2012, 06:11 PM
<p><cite>Tylia@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was doing a quest from the captain in the New Combine starting area in which I had to go talk to a satyr NPC named Silnis in the Mourning Sanctuary. I found the sanctuary, but I did not find an NPC named Silnis. I did, however, find one named Silnas who had a quest feather. Silnis was MIA for my quest update.</p><p>Edited to add: I'm sorry, I'm not in game so I don't know what the name of the quest is atm.</p></blockquote><p>I know which one it is, so no worries. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> This is going to be the handoff to the next quest camp, but right now, we're letting you a little bit of camp-hopping so you can get to as much content as possible. Therefore, that particular quest will be fixed up a little later in the test cycle, when we string the camps together. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Morghus
03-16-2012, 02:48 PM
<p>Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics.</p><p>Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.</p>
ttobey
03-16-2012, 02:51 PM
<p><cite>Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics.</p><p>Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.</p></blockquote><p>Is he in combat pose or idle? They should be sheathing weapons to the back.</p>
Morghus
03-16-2012, 02:59 PM
<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics.</p><p>Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.</p></blockquote><p>Is he in combat pose or idle? They should be sheathing weapons to the back.</p></blockquote><p>He appears to be in idle. It basically looks like he is holding the weapon horizontally behind his back, with it going through his tail, and "grasped" in only one of his hands. It is also partially floating.</p>
ttobey
03-16-2012, 03:04 PM
<p>OK I'll take a look, thanks.</p>
Soresha
03-17-2012, 07:50 PM
<p>The corrupted silfaye, the budlings and the Queen Caleuh don't have their wings flapping. Should they?</p><p>Especially the corrupted silfaye and budlings because the silfaye fly around. And for the quest Weakened Budling you collect them and they follow you back - and they fly through the air after you! Which is very cool but doesn't quite look right when their wings aren't flapping.</p><p>PS: You need to get this thread stickied, and the other Feedback threads too!</p>
ttobey
03-17-2012, 08:54 PM
<p>yeah they probably should be flapping.</p>
Soresha
03-18-2012, 08:16 AM
<p>Lady Nevedaria is GORGEOUS! Lovely dragon, and really nice idle animations too. And the deep growl is well done.</p><p>The symbol on her collar, the coiled dragon, is that their emblem for the Claws of Vesheen? Nice way to show their alignment, asuming that's what it is.</p><p>I don't like Vyskudra much, ugly beast. But she's the enemy so I guess that's ok. maybe intended.</p><p>I haven't gotten to Skyshrine yet, that'll be later today. I'm probably going to go nuts then, omg more dragons... <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
ttobey
03-18-2012, 08:25 PM
<p>When you get to Skyshine make sure you look up! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Morghus
03-20-2012, 07:39 PM
<p>Two new things I noticed:</p><p>During some of lady Nevedaria's idle anims, her lower jaw clips into the upper jaw, and the wings themselves have quite a bit of clipping with the body, though that may be unavoidable.</p><p>The drake that flies you to Skyshrine is incredibly tiny, I think it isn't scaling with player size, and it does not fly you anywhere near Skyshrine before it zones you over.</p>
ttobey
03-20-2012, 07:41 PM
<p>Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!</p><p>Why race are you on the drake mount?</p>
Morghus
03-20-2012, 07:43 PM
<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!</p><p>Why race are you on the drake mount?</p></blockquote><p>Sarnak. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.</p>
ttobey
03-20-2012, 07:46 PM
<p><cite>Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!</p><p>Why race are you on the drake mount?</p></blockquote><p>Sarnak. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.</p></blockquote><p>The shrink/grow potions have become my new arch enemies!</p>
Morghus
03-20-2012, 07:47 PM
<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!</p><p>Why race are you on the drake mount?</p></blockquote><p>Sarnak. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.</p></blockquote><p>The shrink/grow potions have become my new arch enemies!</p></blockquote><p>Ideal size I think would be around the same as the drake at the entrance of Skyshrine when we zone in.</p><p>Also, I just tried without the LON cloak shrink and I was still too big relative to the size of the mount. Then again, I thought sarnak looked too big even on the gyphons, and still do.</p>
ttobey
03-20-2012, 08:05 PM
<p>OK I adjusted the sarnak size.</p>
Soresha
03-20-2012, 08:17 PM
<p>Ohh the mount is in for the ride! Lovely drake. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I can't get a good look yet because the ride is so short. But I did notice the wing flapping when climbing seems... snappy? Like they're flicking down abruptly. It may be deliberate, or just because it's relatively fast, dunno.</p>
ttobey
03-20-2012, 08:18 PM
<p>Are you guys in control of it or are you just riding from point to point?</p>
Soresha
03-20-2012, 08:21 PM
<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Are you guys in control of it or are you just riding from point to point?</p></blockquote><p>It's a pre-determined route when you click Skyshrine on the map. Like the travel griffons around Great Divide/Eastern Wastes. We've no control, and it's a really short one-way ride, only a few seconds.</p>
ttobey
03-20-2012, 08:23 PM
<p>Oh ok. You won't get a feel for how he flies that way. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Morghus
03-20-2012, 08:24 PM
<p>As far as I know, very few have discovered the quest to acquire the actual mount for testing, and those that have claim that it can't be progressed at the moment.</p>
Soresha
03-21-2012, 09:30 PM
<p>Minor things looking at Nevedia some more.</p><p>The idle animation where she raises her right wing and sticks her head under it briefly - when the right wing swings back down the wing tip clips through the ground rather badly.</p><p>The tail movement seems a bit fast to me, more like an irritated tail swishing than an idle flicking slowly back and forth. She's awake and actively watching, but not angry at us. Her dialogue is pretty friendly towards you.</p><p>And as someone who's played dragons for years in both her two previous MMOs... I can tell you that any dragon(ess) who swishes her tail around that much when "at rest" is going to get tail-ache after awhile. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>PS: She's still lovely though. And flying under her belly is kinda fun too.</p>
Soresha
03-22-2012, 06:45 PM
<p>I forgot to add this, but it's perhaps more of a question from the curious fae...</p><p>The animations where Nevedaria extends her wings out, are the wings growing/shrinking? Or is it an illusion?</p><p>Because on the one where she stretches both wings right out, when she then pulls her wings back in, I could swear they're not just folding up but shrinking as well.</p>
ttobey
03-22-2012, 06:50 PM
<p>nope, not scaling bigger or smaller.</p>
Soresha
03-22-2012, 07:10 PM
<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>nope, not scaling bigger or smaller.</p></blockquote><p>Freaky. I'm seeing imaginary draconic shrinkage!</p>
ttobey
03-22-2012, 08:20 PM
<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>nope, not scaling bigger or smaller.</p></blockquote><p>Freaky. I'm seeing imaginary draconic shrinkage!</p></blockquote><p>A lot of the designers have that problem.</p>
Skeez1e
03-23-2012, 02:34 PM
<p>Best Mob in a Supporting Role (ever!): the fiend. He's wonderful!</p><p>Mob I'd pay real money to ride: the mount from WL to Skyshrine - he's gorgeous!</p>
ttobey
03-23-2012, 02:38 PM
<p><cite>Skeez1e wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Best Mob in a Supporting Role (ever!): the fiend. He's wonderful!</p><p>Mob I'd pay real money to ride: the mount from WL to Skyshrine - he's gorgeous!</p></blockquote><p>Is that the drake? (drakota mount)</p>
Skeez1e
03-23-2012, 02:50 PM
<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is that the drake? (drakota mount)</p></blockquote><p>Yes.</p>
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