[Withered Lands] - NPC Feedback

ttobey · 03-15-2012, 01:38 PM

Please post feed back for new NPCs art issues here.

Cyliena · 03-15-2012, 02:21 PM

Reposted NPC comments from my other threads:

Merchants/Banker/Broker - Not seeing any of these in Withered Lands. (only found a mender)

Combine Guards - Can't ask guards in the New Combine Foothold for directions.

Porto Bunglefoot - I can see that he/she wants to give me a quest all the way over on the opposite side of the zone.

edit: Cronyn replied to all of these in the other thread. SMILEY

ttobey · 03-15-2012, 02:36 PM

OK, that's probably good in the other thread. I'm looking more for art bugs here.

Morghus · 03-15-2012, 03:23 PM

Honvar the dragon seems to have an abnormal amount of issues with the terrain, and appears sometimes upside down, or at weird angles while walking around.

The quest "scattered to the wind" caused me to enter an infinite animation loop when they pick up any of the pages.

ttobey · 03-15-2012, 03:34 PM

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:

The quest "scattered to the wind" caused me to enter an infinite animation loop when they pick up any of the pages.

What were you doing while looping?

Cronyn · 03-15-2012, 03:40 PM

It's a quest bug, Tom. It's got "loopstate" instead of "dostate". It's fixed. SMILEY

Morghus · 03-15-2012, 03:49 PM

Lady Nevedaria, the dragon seems to go into the idle animation a little too often, which makes it a bit difficult to read the text properly since the head moves along with it. Long standing text bubble issues with large npcs apply as well, requiring players to basically stand underneath the npc while looking up to see their dialog.

Cronyn · 03-15-2012, 03:50 PM

... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! SMILEY

Morghus · 03-15-2012, 03:55 PM

Cronyn wrote:

... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though!

Is she not supposed to appear until the village quests are done? Because I finished those and was eventually sent to speak with her, but she was there before hand as well.

Cronyn · 03-15-2012, 03:58 PM

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:

Cronyn wrote:
... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though!
Is she not supposed to appear until the village quests are done? Because I finished those and was eventually sent to speak with her, but she was there before hand as well.

Yeah, it's at the end of the quest, when he says, "OMG go talk to her!!" - THEN she's supposed to show up.

It's fixed here already, just didn't make the patch yesterday. SMILEY

Tylia · 03-15-2012, 05:19 PM

I was doing a quest from the captain in the New Combine starting area in which I had to go talk to a satyr NPC named Silnis in the Mourning Sanctuary. I found the sanctuary, but I did not find an NPC named Silnis. I did, however, find one named Silnas who had a quest feather. Silnis was MIA for my quest update.

Edited to add: I'm sorry, I'm not in game so I don't know what the name of the quest is atm.

Cronyn · 03-15-2012, 06:11 PM

Tylia@Butcherblock wrote:

I was doing a quest from the captain in the New Combine starting area in which I had to go talk to a satyr NPC named Silnis in the Mourning Sanctuary. I found the sanctuary, but I did not find an NPC named Silnis. I did, however, find one named Silnas who had a quest feather. Silnis was MIA for my quest update.
Edited to add: I'm sorry, I'm not in game so I don't know what the name of the quest is atm.

I know which one it is, so no worries. SMILEY This is going to be the handoff to the next quest camp, but right now, we're letting you a little bit of camp-hopping so you can get to as much content as possible. Therefore, that particular quest will be fixed up a little later in the test cycle, when we string the camps together. SMILEY

Morghus · 03-16-2012, 02:48 PM

Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics.

Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.

ttobey · 03-16-2012, 02:51 PM

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:

Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics.
Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.

Is he in combat pose or idle? They should be sheathing weapons to the back.

Morghus · 03-16-2012, 02:59 PM

ttobey wrote:

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:
Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics.
Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.
Is he in combat pose or idle? They should be sheathing weapons to the back.

He appears to be in idle. It basically looks like he is holding the weapon horizontally behind his back, with it going through his tail, and "grasped" in only one of his hands. It is also partially floating.

ttobey · 03-16-2012, 03:04 PM

OK I'll take a look, thanks.

Soresha · 03-17-2012, 07:50 PM

The corrupted silfaye, the budlings and the Queen Caleuh don't have their wings flapping. Should they?

Especially the corrupted silfaye and budlings because the silfaye fly around. And for the quest Weakened Budling you collect them and they follow you back - and they fly through the air after you! Which is very cool but doesn't quite look right when their wings aren't flapping.

PS: You need to get this thread stickied, and the other Feedback threads too!

ttobey · 03-17-2012, 08:54 PM

yeah they probably should be flapping.

Soresha · 03-18-2012, 08:16 AM

Lady Nevedaria is GORGEOUS! Lovely dragon, and really nice idle animations too. And the deep growl is well done.

The symbol on her collar, the coiled dragon, is that their emblem for the Claws of Vesheen? Nice way to show their alignment, asuming that's what it is.

I don't like Vyskudra much, ugly beast. But she's the enemy so I guess that's ok. maybe intended.

I haven't gotten to Skyshrine yet, that'll be later today. I'm probably going to go nuts then, omg more dragons... SMILEY

ttobey · 03-18-2012, 08:25 PM

When you get to Skyshine make sure you look up! SMILEY

Morghus · 03-20-2012, 07:39 PM

Two new things I noticed:

During some of lady Nevedaria's idle anims, her lower jaw clips into the upper jaw, and the wings themselves have quite a bit of clipping with the body, though that may be unavoidable.

The drake that flies you to Skyshrine is incredibly tiny, I think it isn't scaling with player size, and it does not fly you anywhere near Skyshrine before it zones you over.

ttobey · 03-20-2012, 07:41 PM

Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!

Why race are you on the drake mount?

Morghus · 03-20-2012, 07:43 PM

ttobey wrote:

Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!
Why race are you on the drake mount?

Sarnak.

Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.

ttobey · 03-20-2012, 07:46 PM

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:

ttobey wrote:
Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!
Why race are you on the drake mount?
Sarnak.
Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.

The shrink/grow potions have become my new arch enemies!

Morghus · 03-20-2012, 07:47 PM

ttobey wrote:

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:
ttobey wrote:
Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks!
Why race are you on the drake mount?
Sarnak.
Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.
The shrink/grow potions have become my new arch enemies!

Ideal size I think would be around the same as the drake at the entrance of Skyshrine when we zone in.

Also, I just tried without the LON cloak shrink and I was still too big relative to the size of the mount. Then again, I thought sarnak looked too big even on the gyphons, and still do.

ttobey · 03-20-2012, 08:05 PM

OK I adjusted the sarnak size.

Soresha · 03-20-2012, 08:17 PM

Ohh the mount is in for the ride! Lovely drake. SMILEY

I can't get a good look yet because the ride is so short. But I did notice the wing flapping when climbing seems... snappy? Like they're flicking down abruptly. It may be deliberate, or just because it's relatively fast, dunno.

ttobey · 03-20-2012, 08:18 PM

Are you guys in control of it or are you just riding from point to point?

Soresha · 03-20-2012, 08:21 PM

ttobey wrote:

Are you guys in control of it or are you just riding from point to point?

It's a pre-determined route when you click Skyshrine on the map. Like the travel griffons around Great Divide/Eastern Wastes. We've no control, and it's a really short one-way ride, only a few seconds.

ttobey · 03-20-2012, 08:23 PM

Oh ok. You won't get a feel for how he flies that way. SMILEY

03-15-2012, 01:38 PM	#1
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Please post feed back for new NPCs art issues here. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-15-2012, 02:36 PM	#3
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	OK, that's probably good in the other thread. I'm looking more for art bugs here. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-15-2012, 03:34 PM	#5
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: The quest "scattered to the wind" caused me to enter an infinite animation loop when they pick up any of the pages. What were you doing while looping? __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-15-2012, 03:40 PM	#6
Cronyn Dwarven Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 362	It's a quest bug, Tom. It's got "loopstate" instead of "dostate". It's fixed. __________________

03-15-2012, 03:50 PM	#8
Cronyn Dwarven Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 362	... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! __________________

03-15-2012, 02:21 PM	#2
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Reposted NPC comments from my other threads: Merchants/Banker/Broker - Not seeing any of these in Withered Lands. (only found a mender) Combine Guards - Can't ask guards in the New Combine Foothold for directions. Porto Bunglefoot - I can see that he/she wants to give me a quest all the way over on the opposite side of the zone. edit: Cronyn replied to all of these in the other thread.

03-15-2012, 03:23 PM	#4
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Honvar the dragon seems to have an abnormal amount of issues with the terrain, and appears sometimes upside down, or at weird angles while walking around. The quest "scattered to the wind" caused me to enter an infinite animation loop when they pick up any of the pages.

03-15-2012, 03:49 PM	#7
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Lady Nevedaria, the dragon seems to go into the idle animation a little too often, which makes it a bit difficult to read the text properly since the head moves along with it. Long standing text bubble issues with large npcs apply as well, requiring players to basically stand underneath the npc while looking up to see their dialog.

03-15-2012, 03:55 PM	#9
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Cronyn wrote: ... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! Is she not supposed to appear until the village quests are done? Because I finished those and was eventually sent to speak with her, but she was there before hand as well.

03-15-2012, 03:58 PM	#10
Cronyn Dwarven Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 362	Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: Cronyn wrote: ... and she's not supposed to be there yet. Thanks, though! Is she not supposed to appear until the village quests are done? Because I finished those and was eventually sent to speak with her, but she was there before hand as well. Yeah, it's at the end of the quest, when he says, "OMG go talk to her!!" - THEN she's supposed to show up. It's fixed here already, just didn't make the patch yesterday. __________________

03-15-2012, 05:19 PM	#11
Tylia Server: Butcherblock Guild: Test of Time Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 757	I was doing a quest from the captain in the New Combine starting area in which I had to go talk to a satyr NPC named Silnis in the Mourning Sanctuary. I found the sanctuary, but I did not find an NPC named Silnis. I did, however, find one named Silnas who had a quest feather. Silnis was MIA for my quest update. Edited to add: I'm sorry, I'm not in game so I don't know what the name of the quest is atm.

03-15-2012, 06:11 PM	#12
Cronyn Dwarven Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 362	Tylia@Butcherblock wrote: I was doing a quest from the captain in the New Combine starting area in which I had to go talk to a satyr NPC named Silnis in the Mourning Sanctuary. I found the sanctuary, but I did not find an NPC named Silnis. I did, however, find one named Silnas who had a quest feather. Silnis was MIA for my quest update. Edited to add: I'm sorry, I'm not in game so I don't know what the name of the quest is atm. I know which one it is, so no worries. This is going to be the handoff to the next quest camp, but right now, we're letting you a little bit of camp-hopping so you can get to as much content as possible. Therefore, that particular quest will be fixed up a little later in the test cycle, when we string the camps together. __________________

03-16-2012, 02:48 PM	#13
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics. Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary.

03-16-2012, 02:51 PM	#14
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics. Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary. Is he in combat pose or idle? They should be sheathing weapons to the back. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-16-2012, 02:59 PM	#15
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	ttobey wrote: Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: Emissary Ta'lur seems to be holding a spear/staff of some kind in a really strange way, as its poking through his tail. I noticed in general, many of the Droag seem to be using new animations here and there, though the old Combined emblem of the awakened version still uses old animations, as well as the item itself using outdated mechanics. Also, the dragon, lady Nevedaria looks rather tiny now, which I guess is either a bug or temporary. Is he in combat pose or idle? They should be sheathing weapons to the back. He appears to be in idle. It basically looks like he is holding the weapon horizontally behind his back, with it going through his tail, and "grasped" in only one of his hands. It is also partially floating.

03-16-2012, 03:04 PM	#16
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	OK I'll take a look, thanks. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-17-2012, 07:50 PM	#17
Soresha Tester Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 663	The corrupted silfaye, the budlings and the Queen Caleuh don't have their wings flapping. Should they? Especially the corrupted silfaye and budlings because the silfaye fly around. And for the quest Weakened Budling you collect them and they follow you back - and they fly through the air after you! Which is very cool but doesn't quite look right when their wings aren't flapping. PS: You need to get this thread stickied, and the other Feedback threads too! __________________

03-17-2012, 08:54 PM	#18
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	yeah they probably should be flapping. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-18-2012, 08:16 AM	#19
Soresha Tester Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 663	Lady Nevedaria is GORGEOUS! Lovely dragon, and really nice idle animations too. And the deep growl is well done. The symbol on her collar, the coiled dragon, is that their emblem for the Claws of Vesheen? Nice way to show their alignment, asuming that's what it is. I don't like Vyskudra much, ugly beast. But she's the enemy so I guess that's ok. maybe intended. I haven't gotten to Skyshrine yet, that'll be later today. I'm probably going to go nuts then, omg more dragons... __________________

03-18-2012, 08:25 PM	#20
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	When you get to Skyshine make sure you look up! __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-20-2012, 07:39 PM	#21
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Two new things I noticed: During some of lady Nevedaria's idle anims, her lower jaw clips into the upper jaw, and the wings themselves have quite a bit of clipping with the body, though that may be unavoidable. The drake that flies you to Skyshrine is incredibly tiny, I think it isn't scaling with player size, and it does not fly you anywhere near Skyshrine before it zones you over.

03-20-2012, 07:41 PM	#22
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks! Why race are you on the drake mount? __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-20-2012, 07:43 PM	#23
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	ttobey wrote: Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks! Why race are you on the drake mount? Sarnak. Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died.

03-20-2012, 07:46 PM	#24
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: ttobey wrote: Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks! Why race are you on the drake mount? Sarnak. Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died. The shrink/grow potions have become my new arch enemies! __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-20-2012, 07:47 PM	#25
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	ttobey wrote: Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: ttobey wrote: Yeah I just noticed the jaw on her yesterday too. She's using another dragon's skeleton whose jaw is different, but I should be able to fix it. Thanks! Why race are you on the drake mount? Sarnak. Though, I am using a 50% shrink effect as well, and it was still tiny, as in...it probably should have died. The shrink/grow potions have become my new arch enemies! Ideal size I think would be around the same as the drake at the entrance of Skyshrine when we zone in. Also, I just tried without the LON cloak shrink and I was still too big relative to the size of the mount. Then again, I thought sarnak looked too big even on the gyphons, and still do.

03-20-2012, 08:05 PM	#26
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	OK I adjusted the sarnak size. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-20-2012, 08:17 PM	#27
Soresha Tester Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 663	Ohh the mount is in for the ride! Lovely drake. I can't get a good look yet because the ride is so short. But I did notice the wing flapping when climbing seems... snappy? Like they're flicking down abruptly. It may be deliberate, or just because it's relatively fast, dunno. __________________

03-20-2012, 08:18 PM	#28
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Are you guys in control of it or are you just riding from point to point? __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2

03-20-2012, 08:21 PM	#29
Soresha Tester Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 663	ttobey wrote: Are you guys in control of it or are you just riding from point to point? It's a pre-determined route when you click Skyshrine on the map. Like the travel griffons around Great Divide/Eastern Wastes. We've no control, and it's a really short one-way ride, only a few seconds. __________________

03-20-2012, 08:23 PM	#30
ttobey Developer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,126	Oh ok. You won't get a feel for how he flies that way. __________________ Tom Tobey Sr. Animator EverQuest 2