First Ever Mount on the Marketplace! [Archive]

Aerfen

05-20-2010, 02:39 PM

Wytie

05-20-2010, 02:40 PM

Dang.... I really wish there was a red one.I would totaly get it, but none of them go with my RED setup. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />

Kiara

05-20-2010, 02:40 PM

Just FYI all.Splitpaw and Runnyeye will have these available this evening after the patch at 9pm PDT.

Eriol

05-20-2010, 02:47 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aerfen@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite>pretty soon all the "cool" things in game will have to be purchased from the Marketplace.</blockquote>Nope! That won't be true. It won't.We'll be see-sawing back and forth between SC and "earnable" items.</blockquote>I object to ANYTHING being available via station cash that we can't earn in-game considering this is a paid subscription game. I don't object to people being able to buy such things (I think they've kept the things on there in the "nice but not game-breaking category" for the most part), but exclusive items break the fundamental idea of subscription-based games where subscribers can, with enough effort, get anything attainable in the game. Station-cash ONLY items breaks this IMO. Free Realms (and the like) can put exclusive to-pay-only items, and that's fine, as that's how they support their game (and you know that going into it), but if I'm paying already, I want (with effort) to be able to get anything. This is not the case right now.

Barx

05-20-2010, 02:47 PM

Wow... $25 for this mount and it's NO-TRADE? I sincerely hope that is a mistake, because that's a LOT of money for a mount that you can only use on a single character. If it were Heirloom it would be different, but $25 for a no-trade mount that looks like a modified version of the SF CE mount just seems greedy. (Not to mention that if I bought the CE for the cat mount, which I didn't, I would be pretty annoyed to see the model available for purchase, only with better stats and a slightly more colorful appearance).You guys really make it hard for some folks (like me) to accept/like the marketplace when you put stuff up like this. Especially since mounts with stats are another step past the "doesn't affect gameplay" line, although I am glad (from this perspective) to see that the stats on these are rather tame.

Malvin

05-20-2010, 02:47 PM

Looks cool, but I don't understand the price point. I guess if you guys have that many people wanting to pay that much money for it than more power to ya.. but there is no way I could see myself paying that.

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 02:50 PM

and this just killed most of the ego boost gained by getting my raid mount in game...granted now i could get one for just my alt...long as stuff getting sold dosent end up devauleing more important stuff droped in game...

Vraeth

05-20-2010, 02:50 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just FYI all.Splitpaw and Runnyeye will have these available this evening after the patch at 9pm PDT.</blockquote>best official downtime notice ever

Meredyth

05-20-2010, 02:52 PM

"Hey guys, did you see what Blizzard put last month on is own marketplace ? Let's doing the same, so funky !"Shame on you, SOE !

Jaremai

05-20-2010, 02:53 PM

If it were Heirloom, I might consider it. That way my $25 doesn't turn into a plushie in my stable of other mounts that I eventually outgrew - I could pass it down to an alt.I'm also a bit concerned that actual-useful items are now being sold for cash. This is a subscription game, not a free-to-play game. I don't mind services or fluff items being sold for cash, but this is the first step down a slippery slope of precedent and I hope we have cleats.

Quicksilver74

05-20-2010, 02:54 PM

WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 02:56 PM

It is a sad day in Norrath.

Celestian_

05-20-2010, 02:56 PM

<cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different. </blockquote>WoW's mount flies, it also is given to every character you make.That being said 25 bucks for either is way to much to begin with. Hopefully they figure it out. I might pay 5-10 for a appearance mount for all my characters (not just one) but not 25.

Gungo

05-20-2010, 02:56 PM

Why in the world do these mounts have featherfall?It doesnt make sense.Give them the jump boots effect at least that makes more sense.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 02:58 PM

25$ bucks? Come on really? That's waaaay to high, if you at least launched it with a possible x2 points i would buy it... but 25$ is WAY to much.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 02:58 PM

Theres nothing wrong with it. How much money have people spent on packs in LoN only to try and get the mounts or other in game items? I for one am glad to see this as I am sick of being a victim to the RNG when that once in 100 raids raid mount drops and I roll a [Removed for Content] bomb. I do hope that these or something like these become obtainable in game for other than RMT.. overall though, good job. They look great!

JoarAddam

05-20-2010, 02:59 PM

So now all i need to do is roll a barbarian with blond hair, no beard in the imperceptible beauty gear. Throw in some greatsword, buy a green cat...I wonder if i should name the toon Heman or Princeadam...

Gungo

05-20-2010, 02:59 PM

<cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>If it were Heirloom, I might consider it. That way my $25 doesn't turn into a plushie in my stable of other mounts that I eventually outgrew - I could pass it down to an alt.I'm also a bit concerned that actual-useful items are now being sold for cash. This is a subscription game, not a free-to-play game. I don't mind services or fluff items being sold for cash, but this is the first step down a slippery slope of precedent and I hope we have cleats.</blockquote>I think mounts are fine. The exclusive single use heroic zone with legendary loot was complete B.S. That should NEVER happen again.

Cynith

05-20-2010, 03:01 PM

These mounts look great!I won't be buying one but kudos to the art team, fantastic job.

Kiara

05-20-2010, 03:04 PM

<cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow... $25 for this mount and it's NO-TRADE? I sincerely hope that is a mistake, because that's a LOT of money for a mount that you can only use on a single character. If it were Heirloom it would be different, but $25 for a no-trade mount that looks like a modified version of the SF CE mount just seems greedy. (Not to mention that if I bought the CE for the cat mount, which I didn't, I would be pretty annoyed to see the model available for purchase, only with better stats and a slightly more colorful appearance).</blockquote>This is not a reskin of the CE mount. I don't know where you got the idea that it was. This is an entirely new model.

Bratface

05-20-2010, 03:04 PM

Honestly this is what the Highland Stalker should have looked like, what a disappointment that has turned out to be.$25 and not heirloom, no way, I do love the look but that's just too much for one toon.I think it's sad that the new SP has moved us farther down the road of game affecting items in SC, it was supposed to be only fluff, it was promised to be only fluff, but now we have stats for sale.I had high hopes for Smoke Jumper but they are fading fast.

Melanchol

05-20-2010, 03:04 PM

we told you it was going to be a slow progression. we told you they'd start off with items nobody wanted and offer themfor cheap. we told you their "free station cash" offers were designed to get people accustomed to the idea everything they have done has been done to establish a base of acceptance or resignation--a foundation where they can start ramping the system up. Now we have $25 dollar mounts. Do you guys see where your "it's ok if they just do $3 cosmetic pets" got you? these mounts ARE a progression and escalation of station cash, and if anyone here thinks that it ends here...

Wurm

05-20-2010, 03:04 PM

<cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different. </blockquote>Big difference, the wow ones are pure fluff. These have stats and are faster than the 41 plat disks.Next thing we will be having jewelry, armor and weapons with stats on the marketplace, and that's not a place this game needs to be going.Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.This is only the start of the slide down a very slippery slope.

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:06 PM

if they were herloom, then would mean less sales,

Dulissa

05-20-2010, 03:08 PM

Smokejumper, how is it <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=478861&post_id=5325989#5325989" target="_blank">here</a> you say that you don't intend to be WoW and then just a bit later we now have $25 mounts...just like WoW?<div><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>We're currently investigating a lot of issues to make things friendlier for you folks. This is a decent idea, but to be honest, I'd have to ask about the technical and game balance issues involved. However, I will do so. I'm curious also.(Btw..."WoW does it" is not a valid reason for me. We aren't WoW and don't intend to be. But good ideas are good ideas. No need to shore them up with "WoW does it". <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /><div></div></blockquote></div>

Wurm

05-20-2010, 03:09 PM

Oh and I'd like to state for the record as someone who bought the CE for SF I'm pretty [Removed for Content] off about these and with good reason.

Melanchol

05-20-2010, 03:09 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.</blockquote>It is clear that Smokejumper has also instructed his employees to post positive feedback on the forums in order to "encourage" some sales.I don't remember seeing soe employees raving about other SC items.... and yet they are all here talking about what color mount they are going to give up new shoes for in order to PURCHASE this MUST HAVE itemSmokejumper should encourage his people to be less transparant in following his directives to promote station cash.

Shareana

05-20-2010, 03:11 PM

<cite>Melancholie@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.</blockquote>It is clear that Smokejumper has also instructed his employees to post positive feedback on the forums in order to "encourage" some sales.I don't remember seeing soe employees raving about other SC items.... and yet they are all here talking about what color mount they are going to give up new shoes for in order to PURCHASE this MUST HAVE itemSmokejumper should encourage his people to be less transparant in following his directives to promote station cash.</blockquote>Lol... granted, I am only a lowly forum mod, but I have commented on a few SC items myself... not just this one.

SisterTheresa

05-20-2010, 03:11 PM

I have to agree with many here that 25$ is looking way too much especially if for only one character. I was against mounts going into the SC when the survey was put out.But if people buy them we are just the minority.

Kiara

05-20-2010, 03:12 PM

<cite>Vraeth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just FYI all.Splitpaw and Runnyeye will have these available this evening after the patch at 9pm PDT.</blockquote>best official downtime notice ever</blockquote>Just found out <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'll post it in a bit <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Barx

05-20-2010, 03:12 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow... $25 for this mount and it's NO-TRADE? I sincerely hope that is a mistake, because that's a LOT of money for a mount that you can only use on a single character. If it were Heirloom it would be different, but $25 for a no-trade mount that looks like a modified version of the SF CE mount just seems greedy. (Not to mention that if I bought the CE for the cat mount, which I didn't, I would be pretty annoyed to see the model available for purchase, only with better stats and a slightly more colorful appearance).</blockquote>This is not a reskin of the CE mount. I don't know where you got the idea that it was. This is an entirely new model.</blockquote>Oh it's definately not a reskin (which would be just changing textures) but it is still quite similar to the CE model. In particular, it was the "tube" back that the CE mounts are somewhat notorious for that makes me think it was a modified version of that model. It's new, but still seems strongly based off the CE mount.

ttobey

05-20-2010, 03:12 PM

Kiara

05-20-2010, 03:15 PM

<cite>Melancholie@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>It is clear that Smokejumper has also instructed his employees to post positive feedback on the forums in order to "encourage" some sales.I don't remember seeing soe employees raving about other SC items.... and yet they are all here talking about what color mount they are going to give up new shoes for in order to PURCHASE this MUST HAVE itemSmokejumper should encourage his people to be less transparant in following his directives to promote station cash.</blockquote>Here, let me fix that tin foil hat for you, dear. You seem to have knocked it askew.I've commented on many SC items that I've liked. That's all me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />No one asked me to [Removed for Content] this mount. I've been excited since I saw it and have wanted one for some time.I know that not knowing how things really work around here, you can only go off what you imagine, but please try to keep the conspiracy theories to a dull roar <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:16 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Oh and I'd like to state for the record as someone who bought the CE for SF I'm pretty [Removed for Content] off about these and with good reason.</blockquote>same here, we got a statless mount with our puches, and now we have to spend another $25 to actualy get one that does?

Pakhet

05-20-2010, 03:17 PM

I looked at this today and they are really pretty mounts, I would love to have one...But I am not paying $25 for a single character use mount, when I can get faster/better ones in game...I would love to see a model that kinda looks like these cats available in game though. I know you can't use the SAME model since then paying customers (gee, didn't we all used to be that? lol) would be upset... but some sort of kitty cat. Maybe a cheetah, or leopard... or a big lion with a mane. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Thantoes

05-20-2010, 03:18 PM

First it is " There will be NO RMT in this game" to "Market Place Items will NOT Effect Gameplay" to ???what is next "Smed bucks will not be the only way to get ahead in this game"?? S.O.E.--- all I can do is Sigh, Shake my head and start thinking what else I can do. After Teetering on buying SF or not, then hearing ALL of the terrible things wrong with it. All I can do it think of the best way to say I am REALLY not liking the direction this game is heading in.

SisterTheresa

05-20-2010, 03:18 PM

We can [Removed for Content] our mounts now? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />

Melanchol

05-20-2010, 03:20 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>No one asked me to [Removed for Content] this mount. I've been excited since I saw it and have wanted one for some time.</blockquote><img src="http://bum.net/pics/xzibit.jpg" />

KerowynnKaotic

05-20-2010, 03:21 PM

$25 for an item that may never again grace the game isn't too bad, really. Even if they eventually cycle the mounts to only show up 1x a year still isn't too bad for a 'special item'. Especially, what with their bonus days. I got something like $50 SC on each of my accounts and like (6) more $5 / $10 cards sitting around for thair next one.I'm iffy on the fact that it has stats (+skills), though. It's small thing but I keep seeing SOE trying to inch their toes into the 'Stats for Purchase' market and I'm not particularly pleased by it. Though, I have no desire what so ever to purchase said mounts. I don't -like- cats. I look forward to other types of mounts in the future that may tickle my fancy. *crosses fingers for a Black Unicorn*-----But, I have to ask and hope for answer ... When are we getting the Guild Name Change Potion? Rothgar already mentioned somewhere on the forums that it was ready! I wanna change my Guild name! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:21 PM

<cite>Melancholie@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>we told you it was going to be a slow progression. we told you they'd start off with items nobody wanted and offer themfor cheap. we told you their "free station cash" offers were designed to get people accustomed to the idea everything they have done has been done to establish a base of acceptance or resignation--a foundation where they can start ramping the system up. Now we have $25 dollar mounts. Do you guys see where your "it's ok if they just do $3 cosmetic pets" got you? these mounts ARE a progression and escalation of station cash, and if anyone here thinks that it ends here... </blockquote>the worse thing is by the time people realise this and start qutting, the Market place will have generated enogh revenew for SoE to not care about lost accounts.

Finora

05-20-2010, 03:23 PM

Kudos to the art person who designed the new mounts. They look so much better proportioned than the CE cat it's not even funny.As for the price, I say keep it high. It SHOULD be high. It isn't a fluff item like the armor nor a non gameplay affecting item like the furniture. Anything and everything that goes on the market place that offers any sort of stat should be mighty expensive. I do agree with Kaisha about the inching towards stated items thing though. I really don't like the idea of stat items for purchase.I am slightly miffed it's not a mount appearance that is in game but perhaps the look at least will show up elsewhere in game eventually. After they've covered the cost of the developement time.

Nuhus

05-20-2010, 03:24 PM

The link doesn't show me anything, but I think I'll just get an free in game mount lol

Kiara

05-20-2010, 03:24 PM

I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.

789mkii

05-20-2010, 03:24 PM

I watched movie repeatedly.If neck or head shake a little by Physical movement while running , it become more cool and natural.And reconsider shinning eyes and a long fang please. for exsample, option or customize.

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:25 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.</blockquote>have a point there... just have a bit of a knee jerk reaction when stuff like this gets added to the game...

eq2john

05-20-2010, 03:26 PM

I've slowly got used to SC, but that is too much, as are other items that I will not buy while the cost is prohibitive.But these mounts are tempting. That's £17.35 GBP at the current exchange rate - enough for a pizza here, without tip.Do you really want me to go hungry tonight SoE, do you, do you? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 03:26 PM

<cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>If it were Heirloom, I might consider it. </blockquote>Ummm...OOPS!We meant to make these Mounts Heirloom items.That *will* occur during Tuesday's update. The fact that they are not currently Heirloom objects is an oversight.

Zehl_Ice-Fire

05-20-2010, 03:26 PM

So, we are already paying to play this game, many with multiple accounts, we have to buy a yearly expansion too, and you want us to pay more money for items? This is a feature that belongs in free to play games. I already drop a small fortune into SOE's pockets yearly for my base EQ2 subscription of a 5 year old game with 2 standard accounts & 1 station pass.

Gaige

05-20-2010, 03:26 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.</blockquote>LoN has cat mounts?If you're talking about the stats, you can buy LoN mounts with plat, you can't buy SC mounts with plat so your comparison fails. You could also get extremely lucky and get a LoN mount from a free pack.

Niffa

05-20-2010, 03:27 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different. </blockquote>Big difference, the wow ones are pure fluff. These have stats and are faster than the 41 plat disks.Next thing we will be having jewelry, armor and weapons with stats on the marketplace, and that's not a place this game needs to be going.Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.This is only the start of the slide down a very slippery slope.</blockquote> Stats ? ... you mean the LOL awesome +5 to skills ? you not gonna try to tell me that is anything to whimper about are you.Really .... dry your leg Doris ! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />p.s. Oh and you do realise the Disk Mounts in Game are having there speeds and stats increased in GU 56 and all hovering Mounts, Carpets Disks etc will havethe reduced falling speed benefit added to them also ?

Melanchol

05-20-2010, 03:27 PM

what is the ETA to adding shards and marks to station cash? just wondering because i'd guess it's on smokejumpers whiteboard somewhere right now.

Andok

05-20-2010, 03:27 PM

Finora

05-20-2010, 03:27 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.</blockquote>Actually they are different, as you can get a LON mount from the free packs that we get every month. Slim chance, but still we can. The mounts (with stats) on the marketplace is selling items with stats that affect gameplay for real cash.

Celestian_

05-20-2010, 03:27 PM

<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Oh and I'd like to state for the record as someone who bought the CE for SF I'm pretty [Removed for Content] off about these and with good reason.</blockquote>same here, we got a statless mount with our puches, and now we have to spend another $25 to actualy get one that does?</blockquote>The CE cost us about 10-15 bucks depending on where you got it and you can /claim it for any character. It's a way better deal than the new prowlers ... even if the CE mount looks like a kitten, just get the one with armor so you can't tell <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />On the upside the patch today gave the CE mount a slightly new run animation that is far better than the old one.

Birna

05-20-2010, 03:29 PM

Dang, looks very cool. I probably will have to get one, even if I think the price is far too steep. I have just returned to the game and have too few plat to waste them on a good mount at the moment. :p

msheaf

05-20-2010, 03:29 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Melancholie@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>It is clear that Smokejumper has also instructed his employees to post positive feedback on the forums in order to "encourage" some sales.I don't remember seeing soe employees raving about other SC items.... and yet they are all here talking about what color mount they are going to give up new shoes for in order to PURCHASE this MUST HAVE itemSmokejumper should encourage his people to be less transparant in following his directives to promote station cash.</blockquote>Here, let me fix that tin foil hat for you, dear. You seem to have knocked it askew.I've commented on many SC items that I've liked. That's all me <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />No one asked me to [Removed for Content] this mount. I've been excited since I saw it and have wanted one for some time.I know that not knowing how things really work around here, you can only go off what you imagine, but please try to keep the conspiracy theories to a dull roar <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Wether you all were told to reply or not I have no idea but I had the same type of thought about all the red name posts. Working on the defense industry we have had it drilled into our heads that the perception of wrong doing can be almost as damaging as the actual wrong doing. Just something to think about. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />

Brook

05-20-2010, 03:30 PM

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 03:31 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.</blockquote>Nope. Not true.Think about what we're offering you here with these mounts. How could you have gotten a comparable mount previously? Is this an improvement over that situation or not?I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.

Kiara

05-20-2010, 03:31 PM

<cite>Gaige wrote:</cite><blockquote>LoN has cat mounts?If you're talking about the stats, you can buy LoN mounts with plat, you can't buy SC mounts with plat so your comparison fails. You could also get extremely lucky and get a LoN mount from a free pack.</blockquote>I was talking about the stats, yes. They aren't the first mounts of their kind.And yes, you could get extremely lucky. Or not. I am not that lucky, so this works for me.

Pakhet

05-20-2010, 03:31 PM

Ok, seriously, +5 crushing is not a good stat. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> lolBut still, give us cats in game! Please! Or LoN. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Rothgar

05-20-2010, 03:32 PM

<cite>Gaige wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.</blockquote>LoN has cat mounts?If you're talking about the stats, you can buy LoN mounts with plat, you can't buy SC mounts with plat so your comparison fails. You could also get extremely lucky and get a LoN mount from a free pack.</blockquote>You can buy stat mounts with plat too. You can also get mounts with this run-speed or faster in game without spending SC. There is nothing about this new mount that gives an advantage over existing mounts in the game that are free to earn. This is simply a new appearance, no one has to have it to play the game. So in that respect, it's still a fluff feature. These items provide variety and a bit of uniqueness to players who want that.

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 03:32 PM

<cite>Melancholie@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>It is clear that Smokejumper has also instructed his employees to post positive feedback on the forums in order to "encourage" some sales.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>lol. I did no such thing.Okay, I admit that it *looked* like I did that...but that's a silly trick and I don't go there.

Hanokh

05-20-2010, 03:32 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>Honestly this is what the Highland Stalker should have looked like, what a disappointment that has turned out to be.$25 and not heirloom, no way, I do love the look but that's just too much for one toon.I think it's sad that the new SP has moved us farther down the road of game affecting items in SC, it was supposed to be only fluff, it was promised to be only fluff, but now we have stats for sale.I had high hopes for Smoke Jumper but they are fading fast.</blockquote>Unfortunately, he is doing exactly what he was brought in to do--make money for SOE at the expense of everything else.

Dareena

05-20-2010, 03:33 PM

I've got mixed feelings on this matter. Compared to the mounts from the CE edition of SF, my CE mounts stink. Yet at the same time, I've got a 65% mount for every new character that I ever make. That's not a bad return on my investment. (I only ever got the CE edition in the expectation of making future alts.)Yet now we've got a $25 mount that will be available on SC for at least a month. Maybe a bit more. Yet while it's also 65%, it has Feather Fall and looks absolutely amazing. (The +Skills part is just gravy.) But on the other hand, it's only 1 mount ever for a single character. To me, the difference between these mounts is kind of like apples to oranges.Let's be honest. From the idea of game stats, these new mounts are inferior. Yes, the free feather fall without using a Harvester or Spires cloak is nice. But that's not a game breaker. Any of the TSO shard mounts or the TSO / SF raid mounts are superior. The same goes for the 40p Rime mount. So from what I can tell, the only real value of this mount is that it looks incredible.Would end game characters seriously use this mount? That's debateable. From a game mechanics perspective, it would be a foolish choice. Yet from a style perspective, I can see people doing it. The only reason that I could see myself buying this mount would be in the gamble that SOE adds Mount Appearance slots like Rothgar had previously expressed interest in. Many people didn't see Weapon Appearance slots coming, yet others did predict them in advance based on the special weapons that the pre-TSO summer event made available. To this day, many brawlers still show their dual katanas.Though for the people complaining about price, have you ever seriously looked into buying a LoN mount from an online vendor? While most of the sellers have switched to private sites after Ebay changed their Seller terms, the average LoN mount sells online for $200 - $300. Now that is a chunk of change! For the die hard appearance mount crowd, selling a mount for $25 on the SC system is a steal. The only real complainers are the people who would never buy a LoN mount in the first place. This is admittedly the majority of EQ2 players, but I don't feel like we're the target audience for this offering.EDITSo while I was writing this post, Smokejumper has clarified that these will be Heirloom items. Then that's not as bad as I had thought.

Barx

05-20-2010, 03:34 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jaremai@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>If it were Heirloom, I might consider it. </blockquote>Ummm...OOPS!We meant to make these Mounts Heirloom items.That *will* occur during Tuesday's update. The fact that they are not currently Heirloom objects is an oversight.</blockquote>OK, now it's not so bad. $25 was pretty ridiculous when it was no-trade, but for Heirloom it's not so bad. Glad to see that's being corrected.Now if only we could get you guys to do the same to the LoN mounts (and other LoN stuff) <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Brook

05-20-2010, 03:35 PM

I would just like a clarification on something before I get this.It WILL be heirloom, but will it be LORE ON EQUIP like the armor sets sold through marketplace?

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 03:36 PM

They'll be Heirloom on Tuesday. The fact that they aren't is an oversight.Also, as I posted earlier, consider how you could have gotten a comparable mount previous to this offering. Is this an improvement over that or not? I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.We're not doing anything now that we didn't do previously. This is a "no change" change except that the models are cool and unique. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:36 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.</blockquote>Nope. Not true.Think about what we're offering you here with these mounts. How could you have gotten a comparable mount previously? Is this an improvement over that situation or not?I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.</blockquote>an improvement from what perspective?comparable mounts are buyable from the city stables at the proper guild level, and a few droped ones.the issue here being rather then do any work in game for stuff can just plop down some real cash and get a mount.it kind of wrecks the accomplishment of haveing in game stuff sometimes... and every new addition to the market place is just another step on invadeing in on that teratory, every time i see new items in the market, im always wondering whats next? whats the next step? how far will this end up going till we can buy levels and equipment for real cash and not have to play?its a slow progression...or im just paranoid... could be that to...

Kosh

05-20-2010, 03:36 PM

When we will be able to buy mythicals?

Dareena

05-20-2010, 03:38 PM

<cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would just like a clarification on something before I get this.It WILL be heirloom, but will it be LORE ON EQUIP like the armor sets sold through marketplace?</blockquote>Now that's a good question. Will it become Lore-Equip / No Trade like most Heirloom items? Or is it just flat Heirloom with no restrictions?

Jeepned2

05-20-2010, 03:38 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.</blockquote>EXACTLY! That's why those of us that hate SC purchased items that do have stats also very much hate LoN. (You know, the game that can't stand on it's own so you forced it on us!)Hey! Would you concider putting on raid gear on SC? You might as well do it now and get it over. That way I can stop spending so much time on EQ2 and just buy the gear I want and play when I want. No more being committed to playing a minimum of 24 hours a week trying to get good gear.I and many others here could pull up the numerous times that we were told that nothing would be sold on SC that effect game play and what to we have here? A mount with stats? Umm I guess your definition of not effecting game play is a lot different then many of us.So even though you lied to us, it not something I wasn't expecting, concidering money was involved.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 03:40 PM

<cite>Niffa@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different. </blockquote>Big difference, the wow ones are pure fluff. These have stats and are faster than the 41 plat disks.Next thing we will be having jewelry, armor and weapons with stats on the marketplace, and that's not a place this game needs to be going.Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.This is only the start of the slide down a very slippery slope.</blockquote> Stats ? ... you mean the LOL awesome +5 to skills ? you not gonna try to tell me that is anything to whimper about are you.Really .... dry your leg Doris ! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />p.s. Oh and you do realise the Disk Mounts in Game are having there speeds and stats increased in GU 56 and all hovering Mounts, Carpets Disks etc will havethe reduced falling speed benefit added to them also ?</blockquote>The guild level 90 ones will be boosted, yeah I should know I'm the person who made the thread that got them fixed. Shame he only boosted the ones I was talking about when I made the thread 2% though.My disks already have slow fall... its called the harvesting cloak.And station cash items SHOULDN'T HAVE STATS! PERIOD! WOW even realized this and didn't give the flying mount they sold any stats at all.And one last thing smartbutt, I bought the CE for what turned out to be an abortion of a cat mount with no stats and less run speed than these. So yeah my leg is wet, from SOE peeing on it.

Geothe

05-20-2010, 03:42 PM

/points to sig.

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:45 PM

<cite>Geothe wrote:</cite><blockquote>/points to sig.</blockquote>their not "lies" the game is just "evolveing"now if you need me im going to be off whimpering in the corner remembering the old days where people had to earn things the hard way.

Holyduke1234

05-20-2010, 03:45 PM

25$ just left my pocket. Mounts look GREAT! It's a choice I made. Buy it or not, up to you. I just have to have the coolest looking dirge on the server, thats all I am saying. And we all know its about looks, not stats.

Niffa

05-20-2010, 03:46 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Niffa@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different. </blockquote>Big difference, the wow ones are pure fluff. These have stats and are faster than the 41 plat disks.Next thing we will be having jewelry, armor and weapons with stats on the marketplace, and that's not a place this game needs to be going.Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.This is only the start of the slide down a very slippery slope.</blockquote> Stats ? ... you mean the LOL awesome +5 to skills ? you not gonna try to tell me that is anything to whimper about are you.Really .... dry your leg Doris ! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />p.s. Oh and you do realise the Disk Mounts in Game are having there speeds and stats increased in GU 56 and all hovering Mounts, Carpets Disks etc will havethe reduced falling speed benefit added to them also ?</blockquote>The guild level 90 ones will be boosted, yeah I should know I'm the person who made the thread that got them fixed. Shame he only boosted the ones I was talking about when I made the thread 2% though.My disks already have slow fall... its called the harvesting cloak.And station cash items SHOULDN'T HAVE STATS! PERIOD! WOW even realized this and didn't give the flying mount they sold any stats at all.And one last thing smartbutt, I bought the CE for what turned out to be an abortion of a cat mount with no stats and less run speed than these. So yeah my leg is wet, from SOE peeing on it.</blockquote>You make me smile ... no really you do ... i have this picture in my head of you right now ... and it is really making me smile and laugh .... really loud :p

Gaige

05-20-2010, 03:47 PM

<cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>You can buy stat mounts with plat too. You can also get mounts with this run-speed or faster in game without spending SC. There is nothing about this new mount that gives an advantage over existing mounts in the game that are free to earn. This is simply a new appearance, no one has to have it to play the game. So in that respect, it's still a fluff feature. These items provide variety and a bit of uniqueness to players who want that.</blockquote>Really? This is your rebuttal?So then what is stopping you from putting a sword in that has the exact same stats as the septic spineserver that just looks different?From this reply you could literally add any amount of items to SC as long as their stats were the exact same as the stats you could acquire in game through other means.

Quicksilver74

05-20-2010, 03:48 PM

Nice sig geothe! lol. Unfortunatley though, you can't really expect things that were said years ago to hold true with 100% accuracy still today. The market has changed, times have changed, and policies have and will always change. Never say Never. We very well may see Station Exchange go away and all servers allowed to buy and sell and transfer, we may very well see [Nunchucks, but most likely not!] some day, we very well may see full character respec tokens that let you chose ANY class, we may very well see Mythical End-Game Gear for sale, directly on the marketplace.... like anything, it's possible. **Silly kittyogre. You know better than to avoid the filter :p

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 03:49 PM

<cite>Gaige wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote>You can buy stat mounts with plat too. You can also get mounts with this run-speed or faster in game without spending SC. There is nothing about this new mount that gives an advantage over existing mounts in the game that are free to earn. This is simply a new appearance, no one has to have it to play the game. So in that respect, it's still a fluff feature. These items provide variety and a bit of uniqueness to players who want that.</blockquote>Really? This is your rebuttal?So then what is stopping you from putting a sword in that has the exact same stats as the septic spineserver that just looks different?From this reply you could literally add any amount of items to SC as long as their stats were the exact same as the stats you could acquire in game through other means.</blockquote>it wont surprise me at all if it got to that point. to much proof people will buy it, and the market place shows no signs of stoping as long as people will buy. even if its a slow progression to avoid a backlash.<div> and Crabbok... the stuff you said in your post scares me... i hope it never comes to that...</div>

stayx

05-20-2010, 03:49 PM

25€?No sorry, nice idea but to expensive guys to expensinve...

Mystfit

05-20-2010, 03:49 PM

<cite>Ekum@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wether you all were told to reply or not I have no idea but I had the same type of thought about all the red name posts. Working on the defense industry we have had it drilled into our heads that the perception of wrong doing can be almost as damaging as the actual wrong doing. Just something to think about. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>OR, they've known they were in developement for awhile and we're allowed to say anything and finally asploded with enthusiasm. Not everyone views the negative perception. Personally, I find it refreshing they work at SOE AND get a kick outta the game just like some of us do./

Bratface

05-20-2010, 03:52 PM

I seem to recall Kiara or someone posting about the highland stalker being the ONLT CAT MOUNT IN GAME, so it was unique...What happened to that? We have more cats available that are way better than the highland stalker freaky mounts and it makes them no longer unique.Nothing SOE says can be believed, they change things on a whim regardless of what statements or promises are broken by doing such.Does making them heirloom mean that they can be shared across an account or are they going to be lore-equip making them usable by only one toon on an account, making them effectively no-trade anyway?If I can't use this and then pass it on to an alt eventually then it's a no-sale for me at any price, unless the price includes one for every toon on the account...

Mystfit

05-20-2010, 03:54 PM

PS Did someone say the monts had feathertfall? Can't find that part.

vexrm

05-20-2010, 03:55 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>They'll be Heirloom on Tuesday. The fact that they aren't is an oversight.Also, as I posted earlier, consider how you could have gotten a comparable mount previous to this offering. Is this an improvement over that or not? I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.We're not doing anything now that we didn't do previously. This is a "no change" change except that the models are cool and unique. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>You still haven't answered if these will suddenly turn lore when used. Keeping them heirloom even after use will get you another sell.

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 03:56 PM

They'll be Heirloom and freely transferred between characters on the same account, even after use.

Anestacia

05-20-2010, 03:57 PM

Here we go again. Everytime there is a new addition to this game we have to go through the same old, tired routine. To this day they have NOT added ANYTHING that is needed to play this game in the Marketplace or LoN. Every single last item is something that you can play the game without having. When they add these items, there is a REALLY simple decision you have to make. Decide if its worth your money and if it is, then buy it. If it isnt, then dont. Period. Crying about it isn't going to change a thing if that is not obvious by now. SOE is in the business to make money and the money they make keeps the FREE updates and content flowing.It's not like it matters much anyway because I gurantee you that for every 1 person on here that stomps thier feet up and down in a hissy fit, 5 more have already bought the mount and go about their day. Your entitled to your opinions and that's just fine, but just to let it be known, these threads are boring already.

threat111

05-20-2010, 03:59 PM

personally its a good idea. Its a much better alternative then buying LON packs and hoping for an item.Frankly I'd like to see all of the LON "in-game" items offered on the marketplace.

Kiara

05-20-2010, 03:59 PM

<cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>I seem to recall Kiara or someone posting about the highland stalker being the ONLT CAT MOUNT IN GAME, so it was unique...What happened to that? We have more cats available that are way better than the highland stalker freaky mounts and it makes them no longer unique.Nothing SOE says can be believed, they change things on a whim regardless of what statements or promises are broken by doing such.Does making them heirloom mean that they can be shared across an account or are they going to be lore-equip making them usable by only one toon on an account, making them effectively no-trade anyway?If I can't use this and then pass it on to an alt eventually then it's a no-sale for me at any price, unless the price includes one for every toon on the account...</blockquote>Dude. I never said it would be the only cat mount in game. NO ONE EVER said it would be the ONLY cat mount in game. We said it would be the only mount to use that model. And we haven't backed off of that.Facts >>> speculation <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Just sayin'.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 04:00 PM

<cite>Niffa@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Niffa@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Crabbok@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>WoW did the same thing and charged $25. I'd have liked to see EQ2 charge $24 just to be different. </blockquote>Big difference, the wow ones are pure fluff. These have stats and are faster than the 41 plat disks.Next thing we will be having jewelry, armor and weapons with stats on the marketplace, and that's not a place this game needs to be going.Have no doubt about it, Smokejumper was given his new job for a reason, and that is to push the marketplace hard into our game.This is only the start of the slide down a very slippery slope.</blockquote> Stats ? ... you mean the LOL awesome +5 to skills ? you not gonna try to tell me that is anything to whimper about are you.Really .... dry your leg Doris ! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />p.s. Oh and you do realise the Disk Mounts in Game are having there speeds and stats increased in GU 56 and all hovering Mounts, Carpets Disks etc will havethe reduced falling speed benefit added to them also ?</blockquote>The guild level 90 ones will be boosted, yeah I should know I'm the person who made the thread that got them fixed. Shame he only boosted the ones I was talking about when I made the thread 2% though.My disks already have slow fall... its called the harvesting cloak.And station cash items SHOULDN'T HAVE STATS! PERIOD! WOW even realized this and didn't give the flying mount they sold any stats at all.And one last thing smartbutt, I bought the CE for what turned out to be an abortion of a cat mount with no stats and less run speed than these. So yeah my leg is wet, from SOE peeing on it.</blockquote>You make me smile ... no really you do ... i have this picture in my head of you right now ... and it is really making me smile and laugh .... really loud :p</blockquote>Happy for your Niffy, make sure to watch this while laughing for that little extra touch...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmZIcmRKkc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmZIcmRKkc</a>Enjoy!

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 04:00 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's not like it matters much anyway because I gurantee you that for every 1 person on here that stomps thier feet up and down in a hissy fit, 5 more have already bought the mount and go about their day. Your entitled to your opinions and that's just fine, but just to let it be known, these threads are boring already.</blockquote>yep, thats sadly the truth here.and really... if we dont have to buy the stuff if we dont like it then do you have to read every post you dont like?your not doing much better here....

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 04:01 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>They'll be Heirloom and freely transferred between characters on the same account, even after use.</blockquote>Can we get a double station cash weekend? Cause...25$ is too much. Don't know who else has money bleeding out of their pockets but i sure don't. That's 1/10th of my paycheck.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 04:02 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Bratface wrote:</cite><blockquote>I seem to recall Kiara or someone posting about the highland stalker being the ONLT CAT MOUNT IN GAME, so it was unique...What happened to that? We have more cats available that are way better than the highland stalker freaky mounts and it makes them no longer unique.Nothing SOE says can be believed, they change things on a whim regardless of what statements or promises are broken by doing such.Does making them heirloom mean that they can be shared across an account or are they going to be lore-equip making them usable by only one toon on an account, making them effectively no-trade anyway?If I can't use this and then pass it on to an alt eventually then it's a no-sale for me at any price, unless the price includes one for every toon on the account...</blockquote>Dude. I never said it would be the only cat mount in game. NO ONE EVER said it would be the ONLY cat mount in game. We said it would be the only mount to use that model. And we haven't backed off of that.Facts >>> speculation <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Just sayin'.</blockquote>Happy about that, since the CE model looks like dreck compared to the SC ones... and when is SOE finally going to start accepting Paypal for stuff? Even if I felt like blowing 25 bucks on one of these I couldn't.

GrunEQ

05-20-2010, 04:04 PM

First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 04:05 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>your just realiseing all this now?

Shareana

05-20-2010, 04:05 PM

Master J

05-20-2010, 04:06 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vraeth@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just FYI all.Splitpaw and Runnyeye will have these available this evening after the patch at 9pm PDT.</blockquote>best official downtime notice ever</blockquote>Just found out <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I'll post it in a bit <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>And on Storms, the french server ?

Wurm

05-20-2010, 04:07 PM

<cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>I have bought the CE for SF as well. These kitties are different. I am not nautious while riding on them... lol</blockquote>Trust me, that isn't making any of us any happier.

Kiara

05-20-2010, 04:08 PM

<cite>Astalhon@Storms wrote:</cite><blockquote>And on Storms, the french server ?</blockquote>At 9pm PDT. Whatever that converts to in your time zone.Your community rep, Soffrina, will be posting that information for you.

shadowscale

05-20-2010, 04:08 PM

<cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>I have bought the CE for SF as well. These kitties are different. I am not nautious while riding on them... lol</blockquote>would think for a CE mout they shouldent be makeing you sick eather.

Nuhus

05-20-2010, 04:08 PM

Shareana

05-20-2010, 04:08 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>I have bought the CE for SF as well. These kitties are different. I am not nautious while riding on them... lol</blockquote>Trust me, that isn't making any of us any happier.</blockquote>Lol, I wasn't expecting it to. Just showing that other people have done it as well. The SF Kitty is kind of cute, but this one is different. This one is more of a tiger then a Lynx...

ttobey

05-20-2010, 04:14 PM

<cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>I have bought the CE for SF as well. These kitties are different. I am not nautious while riding on them... lol</blockquote>I updated the SF lynx run too. It should be in there today.

loramil

05-20-2010, 04:14 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>Forget the $10 over subscripttion price (I'm on Stacion Access so it's not, but that's besides the point...)This is roughly 1/2 the cost of an EXPANSION!!!All the development hours that went into the cost of SOF (or any other expansion for that matter), and now for 1/2 that... Hey... here's a MOUNT. 1 Single Mount.Not even 1 mount per account claimable by all the toons it.The LEAST SOE could do would be to buy me Flowers or some Drinks before trying to pull a stunt like this.

Lader

05-20-2010, 04:15 PM

i abhor microtransactions and station cash, but these mounts are still fluff. No one is going to buy the mount for the stats, they suck (devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since theyre not adding anything). The appearance is the only thing people are going to care about when there are faster mounts with actually meaningful stats available in game as drops.

Chalulla

05-20-2010, 04:16 PM

SOE will do w/e it can to make money, nothing wrong with that. For those people that can afford to buy these mounts, more power to you. It's still a huge slap in the face to those of us who can't though.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 04:18 PM

<cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>I have bought the CE for SF as well. These kitties are different. I am not nautious while riding on them... lol</blockquote>Trust me, that isn't making any of us any happier.</blockquote>Lol, I wasn't expecting it to. Just showing that other people have done it as well. The SF Kitty is kind of cute, but this one is different. This one is more of a tiger then a Lynx...</blockquote>So when are the CE mounts finally going to be fixed... and get stats? You know fairs fair right?

FalseCourage

05-20-2010, 04:19 PM

<cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll point out that the Prowlers aren't any different than the mounts you can get through LoN.</blockquote>LoN has cat mounts?If you're talking about the stats, you can buy LoN mounts with plat, you can't buy SC mounts with plat so your comparison fails. You could also get extremely lucky and get a LoN mount from a free pack.</blockquote>You can buy stat mounts with plat too. You can also get mounts with this run-speed or faster in game without spending SC. There is nothing about this new mount that gives an advantage over existing mounts in the game that are free to earn. This is simply a new appearance, no one has to have it to play the game. So in that respect, it's still a fluff feature. These items provide variety and a bit of uniqueness to players who want that.</blockquote>Rothgar, I simply cannot believe you! I cannot believe that you would make a statement like that. You were the developer that everyone thought was different from the SOE mindset of going against the player, the customer, the adventurer. You connected with players far too well and now you have tossed that connection underneath the Station Cash Marketplace. You sir, will forever look different to eyes of players, your customers, everywhere.<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>They'll be Heirloom on Tuesday. The fact that they aren't is an oversight.Also, as I posted earlier, consider how you could have gotten a comparable mount previous to this offering. Is this an improvement over that or not? I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.We're not doing anything now that we didn't do previously. This is a "no change" change except that the models are cool and unique. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>This mount with its property of "reducing [the] maximum falling speed of your character" aka safe fall to players is the best mount in the game since it allows us to equip cloaks and, thus, avoid a statistics hit with an addition of 65% run speed and skill mods. Before you reference the cloud mount, understand that that particular mount is a joke since it only has 45% run speed and safe fall. The premise of everything you have started to add has shifted radically from not-affecting gameplay - I will admit some of the earlier LoN items did matter: Bottle of Breath/Bottle of Intellect? - to gameplay affecting. If you start adding these types of items to the Station Marketplace, then you must make a quest of some sort or a grind akin to the Rime faction to obtain said item. Preferably, you will avoid adding items like this in the future and just stick with adding appearance armor, new cabinetry, potions, service, or et cetera (not profitable, but this does not penalize players that pay the monthly sub fee). This is a slippery slope that you are starting to go down and for the most part may cause some players to revisit their time interests spent in this game for other new releases (i.e. Bioshock's New Republic or the Rift<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />lanes of Telara).Also, Legends of Norrath's Mounts are in a completely different ball park than this. With this Station Cash approach, there is no chance or no additional substance to the mount. You are literally paying to obtain it. You are not paying to obtain cards that can be used to play a game and then a chance at receiving some 'cool' loot. You are paying for a virtual good with the expectation of receiving it and using it. Please do not destroy this game that I have spent the last five years of my life playing and have just now started to bring family and friends to.Sincerely,FalsecourageA very saddened long time player of EverQuest 2.

xochipi

05-20-2010, 04:20 PM

lol ... they add an awesome mount and instead it goes to game thro a questline or faction item.. NOOOOO ... it goes to the marketplace.....WHATHEHECK lol....whats the deal with sony ? and those red name that pretend that everything s oka....? you guys with RED NAME should go talk to ur bosses THAT WE RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT ....but all u guys do is PROPAGANDA bout how the game s great and we that complain aRE TROLS....ITS A GAME NOT A REAL MARKET STORE.....PLS RED NAMES... LISTEN TO US AND MAKE THE BRIDGE..........STOP MAKIN PROPAGANDA... u guys are not with RED NAMES to make PROPAGANDA.. i thought ur function was to HELP THE COMUNITYand i agree ...those mounts are as beauty and flully as u kiara.... BUT DO SOMETHING THAT S WORTH ....all we see in here are RED NAMES giving EXPLANATIONS EXCUSES AND PROPAGANDA ... we dont want EXPLANATIONS AND EXCUSE , we want ACTION........

Dareena

05-20-2010, 04:21 PM

<cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>i abhor microtransactions and station cash, but these mounts are still fluff. No one is going to buy the mount for the stats, they suck (devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since theyre not adding anything). The appearance is the only thing people are going to care about when there are faster mounts with actually meaningful stats available in game as drops.</blockquote>Amen to that. I already made a similar post. The long and short of it is that these mounts are mechanically worthless. Their only draw is being able to shuffle them to new alts due to ther flat Heirloom ability (which will theoretically have no restrictions) and that they look cool.The cool crowd will buy these. If someone didn't buy the CE edition of SF, then they may buy one mount and shuffle it around their account. Or if someone like myself wants to gamble on Mount Appearance slots getting added by the next expansion, then we'll buy them now.Otherwise no one in their right mind would buy these over priced pieces of junk. That's how the cookie crumbles. I'm sorry if you feel ripped off, since I can see your point of view. But these mounts are lacking from a mechanics department and really don't warp the current EQ2 game play.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 04:22 PM

Actually, the entire staff has been replaced by body snatchers and headquarters has been moved to Area51. The end is near!!! All your station cash are belong to us!!LOL, QQ some more please. The entertainment is priceless.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 04:24 PM

<cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since they're not adding anything</blockquote>Exactly, no stat fluff = Marketplace, adding even a +1 is fundamentally wrong.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 04:27 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since they're not adding anything</blockquote>Exactly, no stat fluff = Marketplace, adding even a +1 is fundamentally wrong.</blockquote>yet exp pots which help you level faster and get more aa's which are in turn making your character moar powerful are ok? I lolled... true story.

xochipi

05-20-2010, 04:31 PM

DEVS = PROPAGANDA.....

MoiraesFate

05-20-2010, 04:33 PM

Kiara, I really want to say something here.For five years I've been defending the SOE devs at EQ2. I even had no problem with Station Cash when it was introduced because you promised us that it would never ever add stats, detract stats, and the like the way armor does. Until now, you have always lived up to that promise. Now you broke that promise and I am NOT pleased. These mounts wouldn't be a big deal if all they were was a different graphics for mounts that already delivered a speed buff in the game. Like the 65% speed increase that the big cats give from Sentinal's Fate. But that isn't it, now is it. No, these mounts gives a +5 bonus to things like crush damage. To you that doesn't seem like much. And honestly, it isn't. The problem is that you devs just broke your promise. The one thing I HATE most in this world are broken promises, because they are the same thing as lying. Personally, I never lie. Its gotten me into trouble in the past. And, if its humanly possible, I don't break my promises either. I'm very disgusted in this behavior from you devs. Never say something you don't mean.

Sydares

05-20-2010, 04:34 PM

That's a little ludicrous. I rolled my eyes at the World of Warcraft mount, but a friend did mention to me that there, it's account-based and any future toon could claim it, too.25 Dollars for a mount for every toon is an easier pill to swallow than 25 dollars for a mount for one toon.I know that "you're not WoW and don't want to be WoW", but being in the same genre does open you up to criticism, especially when it comes to price points. As cool as these mounts look (and don't get me wrong, you guys outdid yourselves on the actual modelling of these things, kudos,) having them simply "Heirloom" is tedious, and really doesn't help people like me that have characters on multiple servers.If anything, the mount item should have a "Use" effect that adds it to your claim window for every toon.

Iamken

05-20-2010, 04:39 PM

Thank you for adding these new mounts! The art and animation is well done! I can't wait to get home and purchase one.

BChizzle

05-20-2010, 04:40 PM

I like it, I think this is the perfect niche market for station cash. Stuff that looks great and unique but also is not better then you can earn in game.

xochipi

05-20-2010, 04:40 PM

u see misters devs?in this topic is a CLEAR example that thro the DEMOCRACY ... ( which is what USA likes most ) .... PEOPLE are not HAPPY with those adds...now will u guys make the bridge and fix it ?NO because u guys are = propaganda...its not here to make the connection to the people playin the game and the people who WRITES the game...THIS mount was supposed to be an INSIDE game reward from a questline or maybe a faction item ... or maybe evne a hell of expensive mount that sells in a vendor.. NOT A REAL CASH MONEY..people are unhappy and u guys wont move a finger.. only will come here to give excuses...the only people happy bout it are the people that has money to clean the butt with it....i already pay 15 dollars to play it ( which is 30 in my currency ) and pay 39 dollars to an upgrade to the game ( which is 70 in my currency ) now if i want to get that mount that s 10 per cent faster than the mine and has SAVEFALL and also casters MODS.. i need to give u guys more 25 dollars ( which is 50 from my currency ) so for the people sayin this mount s crap.. its only fluly..its not true... for some people that mount s an upgrade....

Alvane

05-20-2010, 04:43 PM

Well, first it was LoN, then SC - all was suppose to be fluff items. Then things began to slowly change - featherfall for example on LoN.... but that was OK cause there are racial falls - skill up, floatings, featherfalls, wings, etc. in game easily available to any character and still fluff.Now, SoE has taken another small step - regardless what the price is - 25, 100, 200, 500, 1000 what evers..... you can now have a mount with nor only 65% run speed - ok - so what if you get there 3 sec faster than my 60 speed mount.But, you can now get additional stats increasing your choice of "Slashing, Aggression, Ranged, Piercing and Crushing of caster by 5," or "Focus, Ordination, Disruption, Subjugation and Ministration of caster by 5." Pllus you get reduction of fall speed.SoE, please tell me where I can get that Slashing, Agression, Ranged, Piercing and Crushing by 5 for my priest, without having to replace my current priest items, nor nerfing the stats I have so worked to get to this point in time. Please tell me where can I get all those character stats for someone who doesn't raid and rarely do instances and certainly doesn't spend monies to pay a card game considering I don't even play go fish!Yes, SoE, please tell me where in game .... my level 43 priest can get those character stats......Yes, SoE, please tell me where in game .... my soon to be level 1 fighter in Halas can get those character stats.......Yes, SoE, please tell me where in game .... my capped level priest who doesn't raid and occasionally groups can get those stats...Yes, SoE, please tell me where in game..... my 60ish mage who mostly solos can get those stats ......then I'll believe you are not trying to sell character upgrades to anyone who wants to spend the cash. After all, you just offered anyone with any level character from level 1 to 90 additional stats by simply paying you more cash.Yes, SoE, please tell me why I should believe you are not trying to sell character upgrades.

Iskandar

05-20-2010, 04:44 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is not a reskin of the CE mount. I don't know where you got the idea that it was. This is an entirely new model.</blockquote>How does it compare size-wise to the CE mount? I thought the CE was scaled just perfectly with my Kerran and Elven toons, but with my Fae the kitty still looked way too large <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> And naturally you guys added blue and green, the colors I use for my two Fae's wings and gear.... they even have matching worgs! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />Oh, Ttobey -- along with the animation tweaks, will the CE mount get a few inches trimmed off it's... um.. posterior... with the patch? I recall that being noted as a to-do in another thread cause... well.. kitty's got back! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" /> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" />I soooooooo couldn't resist saying that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" />

Iamken

05-20-2010, 04:44 PM

<cite>xochipili wrote:</cite><blockquote>u see misters devs?in this topic is a CLEAR example that thro the DEMOCRACY ... ( which is what USA likes most ) .... PEOPLE are not HAPPY with those adds...</blockquote>You cannot base from the posts in this thread that most people playing EQ2 are unhappy about this. There are several happy people that will not come to the forums and express that they like these mounts. They are too busy enjoying playing the game.

Wytie

05-20-2010, 04:45 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>They'll be Heirloom and freely transferred between characters on the same account, even after use.</blockquote>Now if I could only get you to add a red one and you would have yourself a deal sir! lol

covic

05-20-2010, 04:45 PM

Wow this is awesome that everyone is so passionate about the mount. To answer a few questions that I have seen here.1. I actually concepted this mount a year ago and have been waiting to make it, just have not had the time due to making all the cool stuff we make for the game allready that is not station cash. So we are not following anybody on this one.2. Price is a tough one to decide, I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. 3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.4. It looks as though this is a heirloom item, it just missed the mark and will be updated on Tuesday.5. As far as replying on the SC mount going live, heck ya I am. I made this thing super cool and couldnt wait to see what people thought. I made three colors to cover as many player taste as I could. I didnt want just one color to cater to a particular side of our player base. My intent was to make as many players happy as I could.6. We still do just as much work for in game items that are not part of station cash or LON. This is just another way for players to get cool items that dont raid or have the plat to get stuff in game. The best stat stuff should still be aquired through raids or the hardest content of the game, I dont hear of any changes to this from art or design. Bummer to me since its hard for me to raid, but at least I can get some pretty cool items other ways.And thank you for the positive comments on the mount, I am glad we are getting mostly positive feed back. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.

Dareena

05-20-2010, 04:47 PM

Dear Smokejumper and Devs:I have a question before I decide whether or not to buy a new mount. Are Mount Appearance slots still on Rothgar's "Things That I'd Like To Do" list? He has made a previous post that he wanted to try to figure out how to get mount appearance slots added to the game for the next expansion, but couldn't make any promises. Yet this post was also before SOE decided to change the mount visual mechanics. (IE giving us the ability to leave them permanently on, let them appear / disappear, or permanently surpressing them.)Even after the GU 56 mount mechanics changes, does Rothgar (or any other Dev at SOE) still intend to try to add Mount Appearance slots in the near future?To me, that's the real question and selling point.

Shiirr

05-20-2010, 04:50 PM

Funny, when I saw the clip all I could think was "Hey, that would be perfect for a Beastlo ... nevermind. Kiara gets cranky when that topic comes up."Nice looking mounts, btw.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 04:50 PM

<cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since they're not adding anything</blockquote>Exactly, no stat fluff = Marketplace, adding even a +1 is fundamentally wrong.</blockquote>yet exp pots which help you level faster and get more aa's which are in turn making your character moar powerful are ok? I lolled... true story.</blockquote>Never needed XP pots or AA pots and I'm 90/250... true story.

xochipi

05-20-2010, 04:50 PM

of course.. u have money to trow in the trash...and also u doesnt care for challenge... so for u its even better that they sell mounts in marketplace..

GrunEQ

05-20-2010, 04:53 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>If you have the cash!

Warpax

05-20-2010, 04:53 PM

<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nyfe@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is this only 1 mount per account? Or I can claim the same mount for each character on my account?</blockquote>It's like all SC items. You get it on one character only.</blockquote>come on guys even Blizzard does better than that. When you buy a 25$ mount from their store you can claim it on all your characters..please consider it..

Roslyn

05-20-2010, 04:55 PM

Love the purple mount, but unfortunately both my hubby and I pay for this game each month and $25 is a lot of money for us sometimes. A way to earn this mount would give me something to do. Like people are saying, this isn't a free to play game. I'm not terribly concerned about the stats as they aren't mindblowing anyway, and if people who don't have time to earn a mount can afford them, more power to them, but I already pay for this game and I play to, you know, earn stuff...At least I didn't blow money on the absurd ghetto-booty-hotdog-cat of the collector's edition. Those people have my sympathy!

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 04:56 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>If you have the cash!</blockquote>Good to know it's 25$ dollars because you want it to be special and not everywhere, not some fiscal model like y'know... who can afford 25$ for a virtual good?

Dareena

05-20-2010, 04:57 PM

<cite>Jesica@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nyfe@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is this only 1 mount per account? Or I can claim the same mount for each character on my account?</blockquote>It's like all SC items. You get it on one character only.</blockquote>come on guys even Blizzard does better than that. When you buy a 25$ mount from their store you can claim it on all your characters..please consider it..</blockquote>Well this mount is being corrected to pure Heirloom with no restrictions. In other words, it will function similarly to the Spires live event feather fall cloak. So while it's a real pain, you could theorectically shift this thing around to each of your characters. The only real draw back is choosing the combat or caster skill increases, but those advantages are minimal at best.

Avaku

05-20-2010, 04:57 PM

I would love to get one, but my wallet is still hurting from paying $25 for the sparkle pony for my WoW account. Maybe if the price were lower... or it were an account-wide item...I would love to have one, but my budget for the next few months isn't going to allow it. I have to save up for a new mobo (hopefully this one holds out until then).

MoiraesFate

05-20-2010, 04:57 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow this is awesome that everyone is so passionate about the mount. To answer a few questions that I have seen here.1. I actually concepted this mount a year ago and have been waiting to make it, just have not had the time due to making all the cool stuff we make for the game allready that is not station cash. So we are not following anybody on this one.2. Price is a tough one to decide, I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. 3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.4. It looks as though this is a heirloom item, it just missed the mark and will be updated on Tuesday.5. As far as replying on the SC mount going live, heck ya I am. I made this thing super cool and couldnt wait to see what people thought. I made three colors to cover as many player taste as I could. I didnt want just one color to cater to a particular side of our player base. My intent was to make as many players happy as I could.6. We still do just as much work for in game items that are not part of station cash or LON. This is just another way for players to get cool items that dont raid or have the plat to get stuff in game. The best stat stuff should still be aquired through raids or the hardest content of the game, I dont hear of any changes to this from art or design. Bummer to me since its hard for me to raid, but at least I can get some pretty cool items other ways.And thank you for the positive comments on the mount, I am glad we are getting mostly positive feed back. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>This is about you devs promising that you wouldn't add anything that gave stat buffs that weren't already in the game to the marketplace, and now you DID. If it gave the EXACT same as the SF expansion cat, it wouldn't be a problem because that means its just a different graphic. But it doesn't. The stat buffs being small don't mean anything.

Iamken

05-20-2010, 04:57 PM

<cite>Jesica@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nyfe@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is this only 1 mount per account? Or I can claim the same mount for each character on my account?</blockquote>It's like all SC items. You get it on one character only.</blockquote>come on guys even Blizzard does better than that. When you buy a 25$ mount from their store you can claim it on all your characters..please consider it..</blockquote>I kind of agree with this (I dont care about Bliz). If you are going to make it Heirloom and able to swap between your characters at anytime, please save us the trouble of share-banking it all the time and just mark it for claim for all characters for that account. Thank you.

Alvane

05-20-2010, 04:57 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.</blockquote>So, what you are saying is to a character a low levels - additional 5 for slashing etc, ministration etc., has absolutely no effect? Does that mean all those stats characters work at getting mean nothing? Are you downplaying stats even for a low level character who wants an advantage?Or did you forget, if I take my level 20 character, level lock it and work for 170 AAs and spend them..... that I have no advantage over a level 20 character who has 10AA? Are you telling this community that 5 additional slash/min, etc. have no effect on a level 20 character?WOW - so y were they included if they mean nothing? Yeah, right................

vexrm

05-20-2010, 04:58 PM

To all those asking about a double station cash weekend, I will point out Memorial Day is close by....

Kizee

05-20-2010, 05:00 PM

Meh... no thanks.I hate SE. I still haven't spend the free money they gave me and probably never will.RMT does not belong in a subscription based game.

Dareena

05-20-2010, 05:00 PM

<cite>Alvane@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.</blockquote>So, what you are saying is to a character a low levels - additional 5 for slashing etc, ministration etc., has absolutely no effect? Does that mean all those stats characters work at getting mean nothing? Are you downplaying stats even for a low level character who wants an advantage?Or did you forget, if I take my level 20 character, level lock it and work for 170 AAs and spend them..... that I have no advantage over a level 20 character who has 10AA? Are you telling this community that 5 additional slash/min, etc. have no effect on a level 20 character?WOW - so y were they included if they mean nothing? Yeah, right................</blockquote>They were added because that is the model for ALL of the LoN mounts. All of these mounts have a faster speed (by the EQ2 standards of the time they were made), a beautiful appearance, and +5 skills.Why were the LoN mounts originally designed like this? Now that's a mystery to me. But that's where things are.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 05:01 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since they're not adding anything</blockquote>Exactly, no stat fluff = Marketplace, adding even a +1 is fundamentally wrong.</blockquote>yet exp pots which help you level faster and get more aa's which are in turn making your character moar powerful are ok? I lolled... true story.</blockquote>Never needed XP pots or AA pots and I'm 90/250... true story.</blockquote>You are correct. I will also add that you do not "NEED" this mount either.

Neiloch

05-20-2010, 05:02 PM

Unless the dev team specifically worked EXTRA hours on SC/LoN items they otherwise wouldn't have worked at all, it is taking away from 'normal' development. There is really no way in denying this. If on average you worked X amount of hours before making SC stuff, and you worked the same amount of hours while incorporating work on SC item, development has been shifted from standard development to SC. Not in addition to.

Rast

05-20-2010, 05:04 PM

I know for me, this will be the last post I make here on this topic.I'm going to do my best to ignore that this even exists and for the sake of my subscription money, they should hope I succeed. I already quit this game for a year over station cash and I'm enjoying the game right now and would hate to get so [Removed for Content] off at the bullcrap this represents to quit again.Why SoE continues to actively destroy the best game in the market is beyond me.

VikingGamer

05-20-2010, 05:05 PM

<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Oh and I'd like to state for the record as someone who bought the CE for SF I'm pretty [Removed for Content] off about these and with good reason.</blockquote>same here, we got a statless mount with our puches, and now we have to spend another $25 to actualy get one that does?</blockquote>Same here, talk about turning my collector's edition trophy item into a poor man's ride in a hurry. Even aside from the stats, which is no small thing, this mount looks much better, appears to have sleeker animation though that is hard to tell from screenies and it has feather fall which is very useful.$25 is way to steep for a non-heirloom, 1 per account item though. $10 for a one toon only item maybe. For $25 it should really be heirloom.And SC items really shouldn't have stats, even marginal stats like these. SC mounts should be appearance only mounts and we really do need an appearance slot for the mount.

Mystfit

05-20-2010, 05:05 PM

Ahhhhhhh <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="http://www.jklm.net/st-auction/images/eq2purple.jpg" />

Wurm

05-20-2010, 05:08 PM

<cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since they're not adding anything</blockquote>Exactly, no stat fluff = Marketplace, adding even a +1 is fundamentally wrong.</blockquote>yet exp pots which help you level faster and get more aa's which are in turn making your character moar powerful are ok? I lolled... true story.</blockquote>Never needed XP pots or AA pots and I'm 90/250... true story.</blockquote>You are correct. I will also add that you do not "NEED" this mount either.</blockquote>Wasn't planning on buying it anyway. You sir, are missing the point.

Midoriko

05-20-2010, 05:09 PM

So if it's not a lynx...why doesn't it have a tail? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Arkenor

05-20-2010, 05:09 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow this is awesome that everyone is so passionate about the mount. To answer a few questions that I have seen here.1. I actually concepted this mount a year ago and have been waiting to make it, just have not had the time due to making all the cool stuff we make for the game allready that is not station cash. So we are not following anybody on this one.2. Price is a tough one to decide, I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. 3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.4. It looks as though this is a heirloom item, it just missed the mark and will be updated on Tuesday.5. As far as replying on the SC mount going live, heck ya I am. I made this thing super cool and couldnt wait to see what people thought. I made three colors to cover as many player taste as I could. I didnt want just one color to cater to a particular side of our player base. My intent was to make as many players happy as I could.6. We still do just as much work for in game items that are not part of station cash or LON. This is just another way for players to get cool items that dont raid or have the plat to get stuff in game. The best stat stuff should still be aquired through raids or the hardest content of the game, I dont hear of any changes to this from art or design. Bummer to me since its hard for me to raid, but at least I can get some pretty cool items other ways.And thank you for the positive comments on the mount, I am glad we are getting mostly positive feed back. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>2. Really? You charge so much money so as to keep it "exclusive"? Otherwise you'd have just charged $5? Is deliberately "excluding" players from things based on the size of their disposable income a good thing?You're not getting mostly positive feedback. You're just ignoring anyone who thinks RMT in a subscription-based game is a bad idea, just likehas been done for the past few years as we go further down the slippery slope that we were told did not exist.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 05:11 PM

<cite>Payaz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>So if it's not a lynx...why doesn't it have a tail? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Kinda looks like the CE mount was wandering around the Warg pen in LP for a bit too long and this is the result <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Shareana

05-20-2010, 05:12 PM

<cite>VikingGamer wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Oh and I'd like to state for the record as someone who bought the CE for SF I'm pretty [Removed for Content] off about these and with good reason.</blockquote>same here, we got a statless mount with our puches, and now we have to spend another $25 to actualy get one that does?</blockquote>Same here, talk about turning my collector's edition trophy item into a poor man's ride in a hurry. Even aside from the stats, which is no small thing, this mount looks much better, appears to have sleeker animation though that is hard to tell from screenies and it has feather fall which is very useful.$25 is way to steep for a non-heirloom, 1 per account item though. $10 for a one item only item maybe. For $25 it should really be heirloom.And SC items really shouldn't have stats, even marginal stats like these. SC mounts should be appearance only mounts and we really do need an appearance slot for the mount.</blockquote>It will be changed to Heirloom after Tuesdays Patch <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fei

05-20-2010, 05:12 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, as I posted earlier, consider how you could have gotten a comparable mount previous to this offering. Is this an improvement over that or not? I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.</blockquote>I'm shocked and astounded that you've just said this. Absolutely shocked.Who are you to tell someone that buying an item with real money is a more satisfying / better process than earning it within the content of the game itself?Consider how I would've gotten a comparable mount previous to this offering... Okay. Here goes:- I'd have to work on my character.- I'd have to work at the economy to build up plat.- I'd have to join a high level guild.- I'd have to earn the status involved in purchasing a similar mount.Alright. Who are you to tell me that process is "worse" than dropping $25 on a similar item? Who are you to tell me that spending real life money on in-game content is superior to earning it... In game itself? Who are you to tell me that I'd be better off paying for a (let's face it, reasonably high end speed) mount over playing the content you provide? Who are you to tell me that process is "worse" and therefore detrimental to my enjoyment and that buying this comparable item is an improvement over the current channels of getting such an item?Just because you see that being able to spend money on items comparable to in game high end stuff that take time, effort and interest to aquire as "better", doesn't mean you have the right to assume we'll think the same if we just "consider" it.To be honest, I probably wouldn't have even posted anything. But your arrogant assumption that we'll think it's an "improvement" just if we "consider" the way of obtaining a comparable mount by actually playing the game leaves me very, very dubious about you.Who are you to tell us what we'll like more if we just consider your view. How arrogant.

denmom

05-20-2010, 05:13 PM

I'd love to buy one for my Ratonga Paladin...But $25...could buy the mount, just can't justify it...Real Life comes first...and money is needed for bills, groceries, etc.Ah well.

MoiraesFate

05-20-2010, 05:13 PM

<cite>Jalathan@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know for me, this will be the last post I make here on this topic.I'm going to do my best to ignore that this even exists and for the sake of my subscription money, they should hope I succeed. I already quit this game for a year over station cash and I'm enjoying the game right now and would hate to get so [Removed for Content] off at the bullcrap this represents to quit again.Why SoE continues to actively destroy the best game in the market is beyond me.</blockquote>Honestly, I quit the game once about four years ago for roughly three months then came back. I've played for a total of five years and I've stuck by them through thick and thin. I've been defending them for years towards others. Since then, I may have drifted away for a few weeks or so trying other games, but I always come back and never cancel even when I'm trying out other games. But this is the first time that they have actually managed to upset me with this game, even with all the changes they've made. I have a serious problem with liars, and always have. And in my book, breaking promises is as good as lying.Let me add that I've even spent money on station cash for the fluff items like items for my house, nice looking armor and the like.

Sydares

05-20-2010, 05:14 PM

Heirloom doesn't help those of us that- Have multiple toons on different servers.- Don't want to throw a mount in the shared bank any time we log over.

VikingGamer

05-20-2010, 05:15 PM

<cite>Shareana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>VikingGamer wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Oh and I'd like to state for the record as someone who bought the CE for SF I'm pretty [Removed for Content] off about these and with good reason.</blockquote>same here, we got a statless mount with our puches, and now we have to spend another $25 to actualy get one that does?</blockquote>Same here, talk about turning my collector's edition trophy item into a poor man's ride in a hurry. Even aside from the stats, which is no small thing, this mount looks much better, appears to have sleeker animation though that is hard to tell from screenies and it has feather fall which is very useful.$25 is way to steep for a non-heirloom, 1 per account item though. $10 for a one item only item maybe. For $25 it should really be heirloom.And SC items really shouldn't have stats, even marginal stats like these. SC mounts should be appearance only mounts and we really do need an appearance slot for the mount.</blockquote>It will be changed to Heirloom after Tuesdays Patch <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>You just made my day... no, no, you just made my week because that blue one really does look nice. It would have made my month if Halas wasn't on the way.Thanks.

VikingGamer

05-20-2010, 05:18 PM

Voel

05-20-2010, 05:21 PM

So people keep mentioning featherfall....Where?<img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4625239376_cec42941fd_o.jpg" width="921" height="827" />

ttobey

05-20-2010, 05:21 PM

<cite>Iskandar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is not a reskin of the CE mount. I don't know where you got the idea that it was. This is an entirely new model.</blockquote>How does it compare size-wise to the CE mount? I thought the CE was scaled just perfectly with my Kerran and Elven toons, but with my Fae the kitty still looked way too large <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> And naturally you guys added blue and green, the colors I use for my two Fae's wings and gear.... they even have matching worgs! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />Oh, Ttobey -- along with the animation tweaks, will the CE mount get a few inches trimmed off it's... um.. posterior... with the patch? I recall that being noted as a to-do in another thread cause... well.. kitty's got back! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" /> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/49869fe8223507d7223db3451e5321aa.gif" border="0" />I soooooooo couldn't resist saying that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Yes! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Covic shaved a few pounds of fur off of her rear end.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 05:21 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lader wrote:</cite><blockquote>devs: you may as well left them off to avoid all this nonsense, since they're not adding anything</blockquote>Exactly, no stat fluff = Marketplace, adding even a +1 is fundamentally wrong.</blockquote>yet exp pots which help you level faster and get more aa's which are in turn making your character moar powerful are ok? I lolled... true story.</blockquote>Never needed XP pots or AA pots and I'm 90/250... true story.</blockquote>You are correct. I will also add that you do not "NEED" this mount either.</blockquote>Wasn't planning on buying it anyway. You sir, are missing the point.</blockquote>Your point means nothing to me.... that IS the point. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" />I'm simply getting a cynical kick out of all the QQ. Mounts have been available for RMT since LoN put them in, including web sites you can go to and buy one on for a LOT more money than 25 bucks. Additionally, people buy raid gear all the time with plat, which can also be bought for RM. ... so who cares!? I would rather SoE make the money other than some shady 3rd party so they can turn around and put it back into the game.Keep em coming. If these mounts are a sign of things on the horizon, I'm excited.

Seolta

05-20-2010, 05:22 PM

Have any of you people ever heard of LoN???This is the most recent in a long line of $USD mounts in EQ2, and TBH this one is a much better value since you actually get what you pay for (as opposed to LoN where you can spend hundreds of dollars and get nothing but potions).C'mon people. The RMT whambulance stopped picking up trauma victims A LONG time ago. Get over it.

Mystfit

05-20-2010, 05:23 PM

<cite>VikingGamer wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Payaz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>So if it's not a lynx...why doesn't it have a tail? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Animation budget ran out just a few days early?</blockquote>It has a little stub of a tail, like my yorkie did. For perhaps the same reason..the original tail is 6 feet long and bashes the rider senseless as it runs along.

Dareena

05-20-2010, 05:24 PM

<cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....</blockquote>Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?

Wytie

05-20-2010, 05:24 PM

For every 1 person who hates these types of things, there are 2 people who enjoy or love them. Obviously the players want these things or they wouldnt be able to justify the dev time to keep adding them.Sure I may not want all of them nore could I aford all of them, but it sure is nice to have a choice.Bottom line is, no SC item someone else has, has ever disrupted my game play, but some of the items I bought have enhanced mine.As long as we have the option to find and earn better ingame items, than what can be offered in SC, bring it on.

Mystfit

05-20-2010, 05:25 PM

<cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....Where?<img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4625239376_cec42941fd_o.jpg" width="921" height="827" /></blockquote>I flung myslef outta my treehouse. It's not there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />But, I'm fine if they odn't add it. If it'll keep people fromy crying foul.

VikingGamer

05-20-2010, 05:25 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow this is awesome that everyone is so passionate about the mount. To answer a few questions that I have seen here.1. I actually concepted this mount a year ago and have been waiting to make it, just have not had the time due to making all the cool stuff we make for the game allready that is not station cash. So we are not following anybody on this one.2. Price is a tough one to decide, I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. 3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.4. It looks as though this is a heirloom item, it just missed the mark and will be updated on Tuesday.5. As far as replying on the SC mount going live, heck ya I am. I made this thing super cool and couldnt wait to see what people thought. I made three colors to cover as many player taste as I could. I didnt want just one color to cater to a particular side of our player base. My intent was to make as many players happy as I could.6. We still do just as much work for in game items that are not part of station cash or LON. This is just another way for players to get cool items that dont raid or have the plat to get stuff in game. The best stat stuff should still be aquired through raids or the hardest content of the game, I dont hear of any changes to this from art or design. Bummer to me since its hard for me to raid, but at least I can get some pretty cool items other ways.And thank you for the positive comments on the mount, I am glad we are getting mostly positive feed back. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>You really did a very good job on making it look cool. No faulting you there. As for colors, you really need to add a red and a white or white/gold

Alvane

05-20-2010, 05:26 PM

<cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Alvane@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.</blockquote>So, what you are saying is to a character a low levels - additional 5 for slashing etc, ministration etc., has absolutely no effect? Does that mean all those stats characters work at getting mean nothing? Are you downplaying stats even for a low level character who wants an advantage?Or did you forget, if I take my level 20 character, level lock it and work for 170 AAs and spend them..... that I have no advantage over a level 20 character who has 10AA? Are you telling this community that 5 additional slash/min, etc. have no effect on a level 20 character?WOW - so y were they included if they mean nothing? Yeah, right................</blockquote>They were added because that is the model for ALL of the LoN mounts. All of these mounts have a faster speed (by the EQ2 standards of the time they were made), a beautiful appearance, and +5 skills.Why were the LoN mounts originally designed like this? Now that's a mystery to me. But that's where things are.</blockquote>If I understand you correctly, my low level character is at a game disadvantage because I do not play LoN cards, nor spend SC, nor extra monies other than my in game monthly rental.So what is next that SoE will add so the community can buy character upgrades either in LoN, SC or w/e outside of the normal game? Perhaps they will tweak it a bit more? Maybe add some hp or pwr?

Voel

05-20-2010, 05:26 PM

<cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....</blockquote>Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?</blockquote>Looks like some kind of oops to me.Unless it's written in invisible type on the in-game exam window... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />

Skywarrior

05-20-2010, 05:27 PM

The artwork is outstanding. The mount looks awesome. The fact that it is RMT - at whatever the cost - pretty much sucks and means I will basically ignore the fact it exists. I can afford it. It just isn't what I play an online game for. Especially one for which I pay a subscription. I would have been happy to spend the time and effort necessary in game to earn it.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 05:28 PM

Let me put this proportionately in place here.One 25 dollar mount.Four 6 dollar movies at the cinema.Twenty Five one day move rentals.I don't quite see anything good about this.

Shasroh

05-20-2010, 05:28 PM

Well, I sure am glad those who bought the collectors edition got the ugly cousin of these mounts. Still can't understand who thought the CE one looked good. The stats on these aren't all that great, but the fact that there is NOTHING similar in appearance to these mounts in game is pretty lame. We got a really lame new mount for the expansion, a flying manhole cover. So to get the nice looking mounts you have to pay for em. For the record the new running animation on the highland stalker made the already ugly mount, unbearable to ride as it looks like it tries to throw you off its back with each leap. There is nothing fluid about this motion at all, it is very abrupt as you hit the peak of the motion.

Voel

05-20-2010, 05:28 PM

<cite>Mystfit wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote> people keep mentioning featherfall....Where?</blockquote>I flung myslef outta my treehouse. It's not there <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />But, I'm fine if they odn't add it. If it'll keep people fromy crying foul.</blockquote>lol/moment of silence for your sacrifice

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 05:28 PM

<cite>Seolta@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have any of you people ever heard of LoN???This is the most recent in a long line of $USD mounts in EQ2, and TBH this one is a much better value since you actually get what you pay for (as opposed to LoN where you can spend hundreds of dollars and get nothing but potions).C'mon people. The RMT whambulance stopped picking up trauma victims A LONG time ago. Get over it.</blockquote>Q F E!

vexrm

05-20-2010, 05:29 PM

We are getting it from here: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news/read/current/3556">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...ad/current/3556</a> It says it will reduce your falling speed. Is this a mistake another thing overlooked like Heirloom? Who knows. However, they are still awesome looking.

VikingGamer

05-20-2010, 05:29 PM

<cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....Where?(snip big pictures)</blockquote>Hmmm, thats not good. It come from<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news/read/current/3556" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...ad/current/3556</a>"Both versions of the mount reduce the maximum falling speed of your character and have a 65% run speed."EDIT: beat me by 26 sec.

Skywarrior

05-20-2010, 05:30 PM

<cite>Mystfit wrote:</cite><blockquote>I flung myslef outta my treehouse. It's not there <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />But, I'm fine if they odn't add it. If it'll keep people fromy crying foul.</blockquote>I suspect what they meant was that the mount will not remove featherfall if you have it via racial or equipment ability. Just a guess though.

Arkenor

05-20-2010, 05:30 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>Think about what we're offering you here with these mounts. How could you have gotten a comparable mount previously? Is this an improvement over that situation or not?I think you'll find that it *is* an improvement.</blockquote>I'm not sure if you're talking about the mount or the method when talking about an improvement.If you're talking about the mount then it should NOT be an improvement. Station Cash was supposed to only be for fluff items. That mount is better than most of the mounts in the game. With featherfall it might even be the best.If you're talking about the method, do you understand what you're suggesting? That getting something instantly by paying for it is better than getting it through play? Do you not see what that says about the game?No. That is not an improvement. This is not Free Realms.

blushark

05-20-2010, 05:30 PM

Is everyone forgetting that we are getting a free major content patch? Seems like we all get something for the money RMT brings in.

ttobey

05-20-2010, 05:31 PM

<cite>Shasroh wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well, I sure am glad those who bought the collectors edition got the ugly cousin of these mounts. Still can't understand who thought the CE one looked good. The stats on these aren't all that great, but the fact that there is NOTHING similar in appearance to these mounts in game is pretty lame. We got a really lame new mount for the expansion, a flying manhole cover. So to get the nice looking mounts you have to pay for em. For the record the new running animation on the highland stalker made the already ugly mount, unbearable to ride as it looks like it tries to throw you off its back with each leap. There is nothing fluid about this motion at all, it is very abrupt as you hit the peak of the motion.</blockquote>Hmmm I'm not agreeing with you here. It's a much needed improvement. I will agree that the cape looks terrible and really makes you look bad, but I'm working on that one too.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 05:31 PM

<cite>blushark wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is everyone forgetting that we are getting a free major content patch? Seems like we all get something for the money RMT brings in.</blockquote>We get those by paying our subs not by SC.

Midoriko

05-20-2010, 05:32 PM

I would like it if they had tails. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />I have the CE cat mount and THANK YOU for trimming it's bum and updating the run...looks much better.I'm a big cat person so I was fairly disappointed to see cat mounts being brought in..without tails!I must agree the price is a bit high. If it's only being offered for a month that's enough exclusivity imo.Guess we all better get outside and sell lemonade to neighbors! $5 a glass..no free trials!

Sirlutt

05-20-2010, 05:33 PM

Love the look.Will buy one, however PLEASE make it account wide, like the CE mount. $25 is just insane for a single mount. If they were account wide I could buy all 3 colors.Also, I hate the mount animations on the Wargs, please tell me these aren't like that ?

Dareena

05-20-2010, 05:33 PM

<cite>Alvane@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>They were added because that is the model for ALL of the LoN mounts. All of these mounts have a faster speed (by the EQ2 standards of the time they were made), a beautiful appearance, and +5 skills.Why were the LoN mounts originally designed like this? Now that's a mystery to me. But that's where things are.</blockquote>If I understand you correctly, my low level character is at a game disadvantage because I do not play LoN cards, nor spend SC, nor extra monies other than my in game monthly rental.So what is next that SoE will add so the community can buy character upgrades either in LoN, SC or w/e outside of the normal game? Perhaps they will tweak it a bit more? Maybe add some hp or pwr?</blockquote>Well the whole +Health and +Power from the SC system is currently doubtful. The LoN loot mounts which operate by the mechanics which influenced these new mounts have been out for years. Each new expansion, the mount speeds may increase to match the current EQ2 mount top speeds. (Older LoN mounts are left at their originally set speeds.) Then they offer an artwork style that can't be normally earned from the game. This may be a variation of an existing option or some new piece of artwork that is normally NPC only. Finally they slap +5 Skills on these LoN mounts and offer them to the public.I don't know who originally decided what the LoN mount formula should be, but that's the way we've had it for a long time.

Rainmare

05-20-2010, 05:34 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow this is awesome that everyone is so passionate about the mount. To answer a few questions that I have seen here.1. I actually concepted this mount a year ago and have been waiting to make it, just have not had the time due to making all the cool stuff we make for the game allready that is not station cash. So we are not following anybody on this one.2. Price is a tough one to decide, I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. 3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.4. It looks as though this is a heirloom item, it just missed the mark and will be updated on Tuesday.5. As far as replying on the SC mount going live, heck ya I am. I made this thing super cool and couldnt wait to see what people thought. I made three colors to cover as many player taste as I could. I didnt want just one color to cater to a particular side of our player base. My intent was to make as many players happy as I could.6. We still do just as much work for in game items that are not part of station cash or LON. This is just another way for players to get cool items that dont raid or have the plat to get stuff in game. The best stat stuff should still be aquired through raids or the hardest content of the game, I dont hear of any changes to this from art or design. Bummer to me since its hard for me to raid, but at least I can get some pretty cool items other ways.And thank you for the positive comments on the mount, I am glad we are getting mostly positive feed back. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>Oh I considered using my free stationcash to get it.my gripe really is that THIS is what the CE highland stalker should have been. you said you finished it a year ago, then it darn well should have been my CE mount.

blushark

05-20-2010, 05:36 PM

<cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>blushark wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is everyone forgetting that we are getting a free major content patch? Seems like we all get something for the money RMT brings in.</blockquote>We get those by paying our subs not by SC.</blockquote>I disagree, the amount of features in the Halas patch seems more like a mini expansion than a normal content patch. Plus alot of games have subs and get virtually zero new content. I think the more revenue a game company makes the more content -paid for or otherwise- they will be able to create. SC is opt in. I think SOE is ahead of the game on many levels with generating revenue. IMHO they should make Halas/Timorous Deep f2p. That would round out their model nicely.

covic

05-20-2010, 05:37 PM

<cite>Payaz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would like it if they had tails. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />I have the CE cat mount and THANK YOU for trimming it's bum and updating the run...looks much better.I'm a big cat person so I was fairly disappointed to see cat mounts being brought in..without tails!I must agree the price is a bit high. If it's only being offered for a month that's enough exclusivity imo.Guess we all better get outside and sell lemonade to neighbors! $5 a glass..no free trials!</blockquote>Ya I would liike to make a cat with a tail also it will look really cool, its on my list of things I want to get done when I have an open time slot.

Stubbswick

05-20-2010, 05:37 PM

<img src="http://www.marynroos.com/images/il_henny.jpg" width="429" height="300" />I think this whole debate is getting a little out of hand. First it was debate of LoN. Did that change where the best items in game came from? Then it was station cash. People were going to rage quite en mass. Maybe some did, I dunno, but did it really change where the best gear comes from? Then it was this special "key" from LoN, that took you to an instance. That was going to be the end of it all.Honestly, has any of this stuff really turned out as bad as the collective community feared it would?

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 05:38 PM

<cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....</blockquote>Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?</blockquote>The article must be misleading, because there is no feather fall ability on the Prowler mounts.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 05:39 PM

vexrm

05-20-2010, 05:40 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....</blockquote>Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?</blockquote>The article must be misleading, because there is no feather fall ability on the Prowler mounts.</blockquote>Smokejumper, and I quote "Both versions of the mount reduce the maximum falling speed of your character and have a 65% run speed. " <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news/read/current/3556">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...ad/current/3556</a>

MoiraesFate

05-20-2010, 05:40 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Payaz@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would like it if they had tails. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />I have the CE cat mount and THANK YOU for trimming it's bum and updating the run...looks much better.I'm a big cat person so I was fairly disappointed to see cat mounts being brought in..without tails!I must agree the price is a bit high. If it's only being offered for a month that's enough exclusivity imo.Guess we all better get outside and sell lemonade to neighbors! $5 a glass..no free trials!</blockquote>Ya I would liike to make a cat with a tail also it will look really cool, its on my list of things I want to get done when I have an open time slot.</blockquote>How about adding "fix the animation so that it doesn't look like a bucking bronco thats going to throw you off or break your back at any second". No cat runs like that. And don't try to change the subject.Not a single dev has talked about why they broke their promise to us. Most of us MMO players have been severely burned by devs on these games at one time or another. This is not appreciated and once started, its a slippery slope and it has proven to be so by other games. You had kept your promise to us for years, and now suddenly you decided to break it. Did you really think that would go over well?LON is different because its still a game. You aren't buying the items, you're rolling the dice and hoping they come up with a win.

Dareena

05-20-2010, 05:40 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....</blockquote>Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?</blockquote>The article must be misleading, because there is no feather fall ability on the Prowler mounts.</blockquote>Wow... Ha ha ha! I'm sorry, but the Feather Fall verbage has been part of the source of the complaints in this thread. A significant portion. And if the online article isn't fixed ASAP, then there's going to be even more complaints for false advertising.

covic

05-20-2010, 05:41 PM

<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow this is awesome that everyone is so passionate about the mount. To answer a few questions that I have seen here.1. I actually concepted this mount a year ago and have been waiting to make it, just have not had the time due to making all the cool stuff we make for the game allready that is not station cash. So we are not following anybody on this one.2. Price is a tough one to decide, I think the price is good because it gives some exclusivity to the mount. At 5 bucks everyone would have it and it would no longer be special. 3. Stats are less then when you get in game, so its not a game breaker. If it had no run speed it would be a very poor mount.4. It looks as though this is a heirloom item, it just missed the mark and will be updated on Tuesday.5. As far as replying on the SC mount going live, heck ya I am. I made this thing super cool and couldnt wait to see what people thought. I made three colors to cover as many player taste as I could. I didnt want just one color to cater to a particular side of our player base. My intent was to make as many players happy as I could.6. We still do just as much work for in game items that are not part of station cash or LON. This is just another way for players to get cool items that dont raid or have the plat to get stuff in game. The best stat stuff should still be aquired through raids or the hardest content of the game, I dont hear of any changes to this from art or design. Bummer to me since its hard for me to raid, but at least I can get some pretty cool items other ways.And thank you for the positive comments on the mount, I am glad we are getting mostly positive feed back. Keep playing and we will continue to make super cool stuff.</blockquote>Oh I considered using my free stationcash to get it.my gripe really is that THIS is what the CE highland stalker should have been. you said you finished it a year ago, then it darn well should have been my CE mount.</blockquote>The idea was a year ago, still had to create the model, skin it, do the textures and make three versions. It was just a concept drawing. I hope the CE mount is looking better for you, we took another look at it and changed some of the proportions of the model, and gave it a new run. Things we wanted to do and things that we got from player feedback.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 05:41 PM

Didn't the CE mounts come with a more expensive version of the game which in turn means that the CE mounts were purchased with RMT too? ... nevermind, I'm not thinking strait or something.

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 05:41 PM

<cite>Alvane@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I understand you correctly, my low level character is at a game disadvantage because I do not play LoN cards, nor spend SC, nor extra monies other than my in game monthly rental.</blockquote>Actually, this is a valid point. However, it's one we plan to fix in the next few months. That's all I'll reveal on that right now, but the fix is in-progress. Lowbies are going to get cared for soon.(Although technically, it's not a serious game disadvantage not to have a mount. The stats aren't game breakers, and the run speed is a "nice to have", not a "must have". I've played six characters up to 35 without mounts since I've been on the team. It's nicer having a mount, but it's not critical.)

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 05:42 PM

<cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Let me put this proportionately in place here.One 25 dollar mount.Four 6 dollar movies at the cinema.Twenty Five one day move rentals.I don't quite see anything good about this.</blockquote>Where do you live that you get a $6 cinema movie? I just paid $18.50 to see Iron Man II in IMAX. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Banditman

05-20-2010, 05:43 PM

The Tinseltown up the road has $5.50 Matinees. Jes sayin . . .

Wurm

05-20-2010, 05:43 PM

<cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote>nevermind, I'm not thinking strait or something. </blockquote>No you are succeeding quite well at being a troll... kudos <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" />

SmokeJumper

05-20-2010, 05:45 PM

<cite>vexrm wrote:</cite><blockquote>We are getting it from here: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news/read/current/3556">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...ad/current/3556</a> It says it will reduce your falling speed. Is this a mistake another thing overlooked like Heirloom? Who knows. However, they are still awesome looking.</blockquote>The article is incorrect. We'll get it fixed shortly. Thanks for catching that.

Midoriko

05-20-2010, 05:45 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Let me put this proportionately in place here.One 25 dollar mount.Four 6 dollar movies at the cinema.Twenty Five one day move rentals.I don't quite see anything good about this.</blockquote>Where do you live that you get a $6 cinema movie? I just paid $18.50 to see Iron Man II in IMAX. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>It's like 10 bucks a person for a reglar non-IMAX movie here these days.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 05:45 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Let me put this proportionately in place here.One 25 dollar mount.Four 6 dollar movies at the cinema.Twenty Five one day move rentals.I don't quite see anything good about this.</blockquote>Where do you live that you get a $6 cinema movie? I just paid $18.50 to see Iron Man II in IMAX. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I'm a student, and matinees, I work nights so I can go to the odd timed ones.

CorpseGoddess

05-20-2010, 05:45 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>First off this is way past the point of "fluff" only items which SOE promised that the Marketplace would only sell. This is game affecting.Second, since I paid for the CE box and everyone gets to have the mount I paid extra for, anyone who paid for the CE box should get this for free.Third, by charging so much for game affecting items at $10 over subscription price, you ought to go to Free to Play mode, and support the game thru your Marketplace.Ever heard of "your word is your bond"? SOE's word is worthless. I'm deeply disappointed.</blockquote>Other than me buying new clothes for my toons to try and match the colours, how exactly is this mount "game affecting"? Will I be able to solo epics while I'm on it? Sweet!

covic

05-20-2010, 05:46 PM

<cite>Banditman wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Tinseltown up the road has $5.50 Matinees. Jes sayin . . .</blockquote>Wow thats awesome, my family and I only go to 1 or 2 movies a year. It crazy expensive. Sorry for changing the subject, not Im back to work. Make cool stuff, make cool stuff....

Zabjade

05-20-2010, 05:46 PM

Waits for non-horse mounts that KEEP their Tails.

Jhanos

05-20-2010, 05:46 PM

Should be interesting to see how the sales for this go, it's a very snazzy looking mount, though I do wish there were more equine based mounts at higher levels.

Gaige

05-20-2010, 05:48 PM

CorpseGoddess

05-20-2010, 05:48 PM

<cite>Chalulla@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>SOE will do w/e it can to make money, nothing wrong with that. For those people that can afford to buy these mounts, more power to you. It's still a huge slap in the face to those of us who can't though. </blockquote>How is it a slap in the face? Is everything people can't afford a slap in the face?Dammit, I'm offended because I pay rent on my apartment, but you've made the penthouse cost more than I can afford! It's not fair! It's a slap in the face!Not trying to be sarcastic, just trying to put some perspective on this. The world is broken into have and have-not. Sometimes you're in one, sometimes you're in the other. It's just how life goes.

Midoriko

05-20-2010, 05:48 PM

<cite>covic wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite><blockquote>The Tinseltown up the road has $5.50 Matinees. Jes sayin . . .</blockquote>Wow thats awesome, my family and I only go to 1 or 2 movies a year. It crazy expensive. Sorry for changing the subject, not Im back to work. Make cool stuff, make cool stuff....</blockquote>We don't even get matinees anymore!!!And student and senior deals are only on certain days/times.

VikingGamer

05-20-2010, 05:48 PM

<cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dareena@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Saharah wrote:</cite><blockquote>So people keep mentioning featherfall....</blockquote>Hmm... That's a good question. The Feather Fall language was used in the online SOE article that described these mounts. Yet it's not on the item's stats. Is this another "whoops" from SOE like they've already done by not including a pure Heirloom tag (until the Tues Hotfix)? Or is the online article misleading?</blockquote>The article must be misleading, because there is no feather fall ability on the Prowler mounts.</blockquote>Hmmm, that's not good. After playing around on an fae templar for awhile I would rather have the feather fall than the stats. This changes the value pretty significantly.

arksun

05-20-2010, 05:48 PM

So in the description where it says reducing the maximum falling speed of characters isnt true? Because if what I bought is not what is reflected in the article then that is fall advertisement and would like to know who we contact for a refund.So can anyone confirm this?<img src="http://www.djdig.com/EQ2/eq2_info.JPG" />

Wurm

05-20-2010, 05:49 PM

lol I just watched the marketing trailer, I was right they are half warg, the green one even drools like one. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 05:51 PM

<cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chalulla@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>SOE will do w/e it can to make money, nothing wrong with that. For those people that can afford to buy these mounts, more power to you. It's still a huge slap in the face to those of us who can't though. </blockquote>How is it a slap in the face? Is everything people can't afford a slap in the face?Dammit, I'm offended because I pay rent on my apartment, but you've made the penthouse cost more than I can afford! It's not fair! It's a slap in the face!Not trying to be sarcastic, just trying to put some perspective on this. The world is broken into have and have-not. Sometimes you're in one, sometimes you're in the other. It's just how life goes.</blockquote>Let me put this into perspective for you.We pay to play this game to it's entirety.That's what the subscription cost is.Having content be unavailable without real world resources defeats the point of this being a game.

TheGeneral

05-20-2010, 05:54 PM

<cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote>nevermind, I'm not thinking strait or something. </blockquote>No you are succeeding quite well at being a troll... kudos <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Not once did I attack you personally. Epic win for you. You totally zinged me. Ouch.However, you might want to look up the definition of "forum troll" before you try and use it on someone. My post was 100% relavant to the subject being covered here. I forgive you though, I wouldn't want you to strain yourself trying to smack my in my cyber feelings again.

Geothe

05-20-2010, 05:55 PM

<cite>Gaige wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>blushark wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is everyone forgetting that we are getting a free major content patch? Seems like we all get something for the money RMT brings in.</blockquote>Did you forget that we used to get 10 of them a year before LoN or SC existed? Now it does and we get 3 or 4.</blockquote>"<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=458388">blushark</a> Apprentice Joined: May 7, 2010Messages: 5"Something tells me he'd be a bit ignorant of that fact, heh.

Rykairn

05-20-2010, 05:55 PM

While I'm not happy with some of the aspects of how this was implemented (such as the high price) - I'm pleased to see so many red names appearing in this thread. Some of us may not agree with your points, but we do appreciate that you're taking the time to communicate them.

Wurm

05-20-2010, 05:59 PM

<cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wurm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TheGeneral wrote:</cite><blockquote>nevermind, I'm not thinking strait or something. </blockquote>No you are succeeding quite well at being a troll... kudos <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Not once did I attack you personally. Epic win for you. You totally zinged me. Ouch.However, you might want to look up the definition of "forum troll" before you try and use it on someone. My post was 100% relavant to the subject being covered here. I forgive you though, I wouldn't want you to strain yourself trying to smack my in my cyber feelings again.</blockquote>I've been the moderator for a large forum for well over 10 years, I know troll when I smell it. But its all good, its nothing but pixels correct? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Aerfen

05-20-2010, 06:02 PM

So, people have summed up my feelings nicely, so I won't repeat things, HOWEVER...At least 5 RED NAME DEVS have responded to this post, multiple times each, totaling over 20+ replies... Why can't we get that kind of response in threads regarding broken items, mythical nerfs (mystics and furys), broken TSO endline spells (the old Stonewall thread)...there are so many other things that need your attention in this game...

Galthren

05-20-2010, 06:02 PM

Why are the devs of this game trying to make EQ2 so much like WoW?In WoW, they released a Flying Mount into their Pet Store called the Celestial Steed during mid-April at the cost of $25 a pop. It netted Blizzard with over $4 million dollars after it was released. It was a huge success for them, and now Sony is trying to copy them?Don't believe me? Here's some evidence: <a href="http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/loadNews/16750" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/loadNews/16750</a>Stop trying to be like World of Warcraft, and focus on Everquest 2. I understand the interest of trying to rake in that amount of money by just putting a mount on the Game's Store, but can't you try to be more original and try to find ways for this game to be more attractive to players so you can get more money by bringing in more players to play this game? Instead of just stealing an idea from some other company just to try to get the same results as they did.I'm sure you can think of thousands of things to do. Hell, I've got a ton of ideas for this game to make it more popular, I'm sure your developers have more than me.In the end, I think it's a terrible move to release that Mount as a Marketplace-bought item.You can do better than this, Sony and EQ2 Developers.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 06:06 PM

Forget it, Throw the Islands up on Marketplace. I'll buy access to them, after all that's all you appear to notice.

Tyrus Dracofire

05-20-2010, 06:06 PM

i guess it just wait at least 5 months for 500 SC points add during each month til you get total amount of 2,500 SC.it free if you save alot of SC points.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 06:07 PM

<cite>Tyrus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>i guess it just wait at least 5 months for 500 SC points add during each month til you get total amount of 2,500 SC.it free if you save alot of SC points.</blockquote>The mount is in game for one month total and we don't get any SC free if that's what you are referring to.

CorpseGoddess

05-20-2010, 06:09 PM

<cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chalulla@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>SOE will do w/e it can to make money, nothing wrong with that. For those people that can afford to buy these mounts, more power to you. It's still a huge slap in the face to those of us who can't though. </blockquote>How is it a slap in the face? Is everything people can't afford a slap in the face?Dammit, I'm offended because I pay rent on my apartment, but you've made the penthouse cost more than I can afford! It's not fair! It's a slap in the face!Not trying to be sarcastic, just trying to put some perspective on this. The world is broken into have and have-not. Sometimes you're in one, sometimes you're in the other. It's just how life goes.</blockquote>Let me put this into perspective for you.We pay to play this game to it's entirety.That's what the subscription cost is.Having content be unavailable without real world resources defeats the point of this being a game.</blockquote>I still don't follow your argument. Nowhere does it say that my paid subscription is going to cover EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the game at all times. I pay to play. That's it. I pay to be able to stick a toe into the world of Norrath and do stuff there if I choose. Perhaps people's expectations and perceptions are too high, or skewed. This is a business. They are not here to make us promises. They are not here to stroke every one of the players and make them happy. They are here to provide a product and (hopefully) make money off that product. Which they are doing by adding "extras" into the game, like LoN and SC. I find it interesting that the majority of posts (nearly all, as I look back) against this mount are by people who have stated they can't afford the mount. People who can, for the most part, are excited by it. Which just goes back to my "have/have not" point...

Meredyth

05-20-2010, 06:09 PM

I'm nobody, my opinion cannot change anything. I'm a customer, a simply customer, I don't bring billions of dollars for SOE and my monthly fees are so small compared to what SOE will get with this mounts. I'm aware that video games became an industry, there was a good potential in it and now you have to pay more to get the final scene of your game (I don't remember the name of it unfortunnately).I was just wondering if the dev' are doing this because they don't have the choice (and it's better for them to obey than loosing their job, I agree), or if they totally don't care about the world of video games ? I wish I could get an honest answer by private message because having only one answer with an explain of "WHY they are doing this" will make me happy, because yet I don't know if I'm playing a game made by passionate people or people who just seek more and more moneySorry for my english, I try my best...

Avaku

05-20-2010, 06:09 PM

<cite>Galthren wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why are the devs of this game trying to make EQ2 so much like WoW?In WoW, they released a Flying Mount into their Pet Store called the Celestial Steed during mid-April at the cost of $25 a pop. It netted Blizzard with over $4 million dollars after it was released. It was a huge success for them, and now Sony is trying to copy them?Don't believe me? Here's some evidence: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/loadNews/16750" target="_blank">http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/loadNews/16750</a>Stop trying to be like World of Warcraft, and focus on Everquest 2. I understand the interest of trying to rake in that amount of money by just putting a mount on the Game's Store, but can't you try to be more original and try to find ways for this game to be more attractive to players so you can get more money by bringing in more players to play this game? Instead of just stealing an idea from some other company just to try to get the same results as they did.I'm sure you can think of thousands of things to do. Hell, I've got a ton of ideas for this game to make it more popular, I'm sure your developers have more than me.In the end, I think it's a terrible move to release that Mount as a Marketplace-bought item.You can do better than this, Sony and EQ2 Developers.</blockquote>The difference between the Celestial Steed and the prowler mounts is that the Celestial Steed is attached to your account. Meaning all of your characters, present and future, gets one. This mount is $25 per character. Now if it were account-wide, then I would be more inclined to purchase this mount as soon as I had the money to spare.

Kiara

05-20-2010, 06:10 PM

The featherfall feature was a mistake and has been corrected in the article. Sorry about the confusion folks!

blushark

05-20-2010, 06:12 PM

<cite>Geothe wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gaige wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>blushark wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is everyone forgetting that we are getting a free major content patch? Seems like we all get something for the money RMT brings in.</blockquote>Did you forget that we used to get 10 of them a year before LoN or SC existed? Now it does and we get 3 or 4.</blockquote>"<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=458388">blushark</a> Apprentice Joined: May 7, 2010Messages: 5"Something tells me he'd be a bit ignorant of that fact, heh.</blockquote>Or I could have more than one account. Or I may have made a new account. Joined date and number of posts is not an indication of ignorance necessarily. It makes sense that a young game would be heavy on content patches in its early days. The idea is to retain subs that and there may be content gaps. After a game matures and has a solid grounding the free content patches may be less frequent.

Vortexelemental

05-20-2010, 06:12 PM

<cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vortexelemental@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chalulla@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>SOE will do w/e it can to make money, nothing wrong with that. For those people that can afford to buy these mounts, more power to you. It's still a huge slap in the face to those of us who can't though. </blockquote>How is it a slap in the face? Is everything people can't afford a slap in the face?Dammit, I'm offended because I pay rent on my apartment, but you've made the penthouse cost more than I can afford! It's not fair! It's a slap in the face!Not trying to be sarcastic, just trying to put some perspective on this. The world is broken into have and have-not. Sometimes you're in one, sometimes you're in the other. It's just how life goes.</blockquote>Let me put this into perspective for you.We pay to play this game to it's entirety.That's what the subscription cost is.Having content be unavailable without real world resources defeats the point of this being a game.</blockquote>I still don't follow your argument. Nowhere does it say that my paid subscription is going to cover EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of the game at all times. I pay to play. That's it. I pay to be able to stick a toe into the world of Norrath and do stuff there if I choose. Perhaps people's expectations and perceptions are too high, or skewed. This is a business. They are not here to make us promises. They are not here to stroke every one of the players and make them happy. They are here to provide a product and (hopefully) make money off that product. Which they are doing by adding "extras" into the game, like LoN and SC. I find it interesting that the majority of posts (nearly all, as I look back) against this mount are by people who have stated they can't afford the mount. People who can, for the most part, are excited by it. Which just goes back to my "have/have not" point...</blockquote>The expectation is that for paying to be play this game you have access to everything within the game. Making your way to get it yourself while in game of course takes your own time.So being poor excludes us? That's a great philosophy for a game that is supposed to be an escape from the real world where i don't need to stare at my crappy food and wonder if I will be able to afford my school next semester.If you don't see where I am coming from you never will. So don't even try.