ZAM Launches New EQII Site [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Calthine

04-22-2009, 03:11 PM

ZAM, in partnership with SOE, is pleased to present the new EQII ZAM Site! This new site incorporates game data from SOE with player guides and comments from the old site to bring you a new level of game information. New features include:<ul><li>A live Broker feed that allows you to track sales, items, and their pricing data across all servers </li><li>Loc's and other detailed information on every mob </li><li>Drop information of every item, including drop tables with exact percentages </li><li>Quest data from the game </li><li>Complete recipe information </li></ul> All wrapped up in a new, easy to use interface! That does not involve green! Enjoy the new site at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com</a>Almost forgot! We'd love your feedback here: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/forum.html?forum=19;mid=124042447573568604;page=1" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/forum.html?forum...73568604;page=1</a>

Spyderbite

04-22-2009, 03:13 PM

/sets off numerous and impressive fireworks!!!Woot!

Isisalthea

04-22-2009, 05:49 PM

Interesting. I like how the collections pages also link to broker prices. I am glad you kept the individual comments attached to the quests. A totally new look to get used to, but generally I found it very easy to navigate. Broker looks interesting.Good job over all I would say. Grats on the new site!!!

Lorzus

04-22-2009, 05:56 PM

I'm looking forward to playing around with this some <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Spyderbite

04-22-2009, 05:59 PM

<cite>Isisalthea@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am glad you kept the individual comments attached to the quests.</blockquote>That was something that was very important to those of us on the EQ2 team at ZAM. The community helped develop and shape and update the quests through their comments. And, we didn't want to lose that. The same goes for the Wiki pages. Much of those pages are player contributed. And, to lose that would be to throw away the personable feel of the site as well as all the hard work the players put in to their contributions. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />

Xalmat

04-22-2009, 06:05 PM

So, what does this mean for EQ2Players?

Spyderbite

04-22-2009, 06:10 PM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote>So, what does this mean for EQ2Players?</blockquote>Good question. I've never compared the two myself, since I can't see my paperdoll or my rankings or anything like that on ZAM. Nor could I check the broker for the status of my store or cost of an item on EQ2Players. Personally, I think they're Apples and Oranges. But, that's just my opinion. I still pay to use EQ2Players.

Liandra

04-22-2009, 06:13 PM

you seem to be missing the brokers for Runnyeye and Splitpaw. Or is this just a US Server only feature?

Spyderbite

04-22-2009, 06:19 PM

<cite>Liandra wrote:</cite><blockquote>you seem to be missing the brokers for Runnyeye and Splitpaw. Or is this just a US Server only feature?</blockquote>Its being looked in to at the moment. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Vendolyn

04-22-2009, 08:25 PM

Cal and the rest of the 'Zam staff: the new site is wonderful! I love the theme, and most importantly, the <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/EverQuest_II_Sweepstakes" target="_blank">Fan Faire Contest!</a> If only I didn't already book everything, this would be a fun thing to work towards.Kudos to all of you!

Calthine

04-22-2009, 08:54 PM

That's Right! You beat me to my official post <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

GlitterPaws

04-23-2009, 12:46 AM

Looks fantastic! Like the layout.....for the most part. I'm finding the recipes cumbersome and the inability to filter/sort by which character class you are crafting something is frustrating. However, I am still wading through the newness and know that stuff is getting looked at AND I may have overlooked a crucial link or field ))With 15,000 plus recipes no wonder Den Mum was getting, er, feisty about updating the Traders database. I had NOOOOOOO idea there were that many recipes in game! Gives a much greater appreciation of what serious crafters really contribute to the various sites.Cheers and Congrats. I wave my paws and do a happy rat dance for y'all.

Calthine

04-23-2009, 01:07 AM

<cite>GlitterPaws wrote:</cite><blockquote>With 15,000 plus recipes no wonder Den Mum was getting, er, feisty about updating the Traders database. I had NOOOOOOO idea there were that many recipes in game! Gives a much greater appreciation of what serious crafters really contribute to the various sites.</blockquote>That's one of the reasons we never tackled them before when we were still hand-farming data!

Snowdonia

04-23-2009, 01:26 AM

OH! And you guys just copied the log ins from the old site. Noice!For a minute there I thought someone had taken my name which would have ticked me right off (and in fact had until I decided to try my own password and discovered it was me). <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Spyderbite

04-23-2009, 01:36 AM

<cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>For a minute there I thought someone had taken my name which would have ticked me right off (and in fact had until I decided to try my own password and discovered it was me). <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Funny how that works huh? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Glad we didn't tick you off and hope you're enjoying the new site. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Noaani

04-23-2009, 02:54 AM

Is it just me, or is the bestiary for a few zones still missing?I noticed it first with Najenas Hollow Tower (wanted to see the actual percentage for the ring to drop), and when I saw that no info for that zone existed, I tried a few others.A few of the TSO zones have no info at all, none of the TSO raid zones have info, and of the lower level zones I loked at, Chamber of Immortality was the only one I noticed without any info.Is it just info you need to run through a script, or is it info SoE have not supplied you guys yet?

Calthine

04-23-2009, 03:20 AM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is it just me, or is the bestiary for a few zones still missing?</blockquote>We're still missing a few things but actively working with SOE to get them, if it's missing now we should have it really soon.

Noaani

04-23-2009, 07:41 AM

Cool, what is there is great so far, so I'm looking forward to it all being in place.Curious though, is there a plan for new zones added to the game? Will the bestiary and items be updated as it goes live, as it is discovered, or just when SoE get around to sending you guys the data?

Chookadook

04-23-2009, 09:12 AM

So does this mean SOE is going to start allowing XML feed to more than just ZAM? I mean that is great and all ZAM was able to finagle an inside deal with Sony, but you guys were promising XML Feeds shortly after launch, and every inquiry was met with, "its coming soon" and "its still on the table".So SOE are you going to allow other sites to take from a feed system and stop having to run miners through your websites which only hurts both parties?And this isn't a jab at ZAM, I'm excited they were able to finally get SOE to deliver a stream, good for them, its frustrating that its been 5 years and you still haven't deliverd on the feed some of the rest of us have been asking about <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I pay for EQ2Players on my main account and it is horribly lackluster, ZAM on steroids is what EQ2Players should have been. Hire a webapp developer and let them bring EQ2Players up to speed, it should be something people want to pay for and it shouldn't be as buggy as it is (inaccurate data | signatures broken | etc...) If you don't want to take time to make eq2players what it is, at least let us have a feed so we can make fan sites that do what it should have done or at the very least feeds that we can work into our own Guild websites easier than mining.

Thunderthyze

04-23-2009, 10:03 AM

Initial impressions.1. The site is a little touchy with all the ads flying around it. Too easy to click the wrong thing by accident. Overall not impressed with the layout of the site but purely from an ergonomics point of view.2. Disappointed that non US servers do not have the online broker activated.3. Deeply dismayed at the number of zones apparently not populated in the beastiary. First 3 zones I looked at. Tomb of the Mad Crusader - no beastiary. VP seems ok. Scornfeather Roost - no beastiary. Pretty high "fail" rate for a site what suggests "a few" zones yet to be linked to the database.4. Not sure as to the use of the drop rate indicators other than to provide a basis for the conspiracy theorists to start still more threads about the RNG.Conclusion:Employ a website designer to make the site a little more user friendly.

Aintdeadyet

04-23-2009, 10:14 AM

Agree about eq2players. Paying for a partially useful sony site is just wrong, If you can get ZAM a current broker data feed then you can fix eq2players or provide the feed to zam. Sony please step up to the plate and deliver on your promises.

Elrood

04-23-2009, 10:20 AM

I think the new site is absolutly amazing. Having the official loot tables laid out for every single mob is incredible.I never thought I would ever see that available to players. Congratulations Zam!!

Calthine

04-23-2009, 01:40 PM

Lots of good feedback! Let's see:New Data: It's my understanding we'll get the new data as it is discovered. As usual the Zam staff will be on Test padding the wiki out in anticipation of new data, so new content shouldn't be a total void.Ads: This is where I pitch Premium accounts. I tell ya, I log out of my account and the ads are indeed annoying, but they pay the bills. A Premium account turns them off. <a href="http://www.zam.com/premium.html " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.zam.com/premium.html </a> PS - IMO the site layout looks better without ads, too. Euro Servers: Several people asked about non-US servers on the broker: I'm trying to find out about this. The rest I can't answer 'cause it's over my level, or more an SOE question than a ZAM question. I think player profiles would be the next step in uber awesomeness, but I'm not involved in those discussions.

Noaani

04-23-2009, 01:52 PM

Would it be possible to consolidate the loot tables a little?A lot of mobs have a percentage listed for each master and adept (which is no doubt the info SoE gave you), yet it is common knowledge that the mob will drop a maximum of 1 master, picking from the list. Instead of listing each of the T8 masters on Executor Zynos, for example, and giving each a 0.0148% drop rate, could you make the 'item' field a link to all the masters he drops, and just supply the total percentage chance from him to drop a master (~10% in this case)?The same can be said for adepts and treasured "xxx yyy of the zzz" gear.Also, would it be possible to have a setting tied to an account to not list any items below legendary unless specifically searched for? Loading up a loot table with 1.4k items half of which are treasured, 45% of which are masters, and only a total of 8 items that are actually of interest, seems to me to be a bit of a waste of time.Other than these, for a site that has just launched, its looking pretty good imo.Edit: also noticed that a lot of mobs that spawn as a part of a ring event seem to be missing.Another edit: the broker search doesn't seem to want to display any price over 2147p 48g 36s 47c. Not a major issue, as few serious items are listed at these prices right now, but the same could have been said for 200p items back in DoF.

Detor

04-23-2009, 01:55 PM

I think the loot percentages show some interesting things about Master I drop rates. Things we all figured were true, but due to the RNG you couldn't really PROVE it.- Now you can see things like in Sebilis, two named with the same difficulty, one has a master drop rate 10x higher than the one beside it. You might have just suspected back in the day, but now you can see it yourself.- For some classes their spells really are rarer.-Nu'Roga (TSO instance) has no chance of masters except for that VERY last named.Allakhazam does have a few holes in the data though. No smart loot percentages can be seen, nor can you see any REALLY rare things such as a solo mob that has that 1 in 1000 chance of a master. I don't know if allakhazam decided just to not show really rare events, or if SOE isn't feeding that data to them.

Noaani

04-23-2009, 02:00 PM

<cite>Detor wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think the loot percentages show some interesting things about Master I drop rates. Things we all figured were true, but due to the RNG you couldn't really PROVE it.- Now you can see things like in Sebilis, two named with the same difficulty, one has a master drop rate 10x higher than the one beside it. You might have just suspected back in the day, but now you can see it yourself.- For some classes their spells really are rarer.-Nu'Roga (TSO instance) has no chance of masters except for that VERY last named.Allakhazam does have a few holes in the data though. No smart loot percentages can be seen, nor can you see any REALLY rare things such as a solo mob that has that 1 in 1000 chance of a master. I don't know if allakhazam decided just to not show really rare events, or if SOE isn't feeding that data to them.</blockquote>The lowest percentage I have seen so far is a 0.005% drop rate on an item. This is a 1/20,000 chance to drop per kill, but masters from trash are rarer than that. Assuming a mob has about that chance to drop a master means that a specific master (as the database lists them), has about a 1/13,000,000 chance of dropping. This would show up on that database as being rounded to 0.000% drop rate, and so would probably be removed from the loot table via script.

GreenArmadillo

04-23-2009, 03:05 PM

Nice redesign. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I don't suppose there's an AA calculator in the works? It would be really nice to have a calculator that does not presume that you have memorized all the AA's in the game.

fre'do

04-23-2009, 04:41 PM

This is just awful. The old site was just better and more friendly to people. There were alot more info there then here like: where stuff can be found and comments.

Isisalthea

04-23-2009, 05:20 PM

The comments are still there. Look for the tab that says comments. I was concerned at first as well, but actually it is all there

Calthine

04-23-2009, 07:41 PM

<cite>Isisalthea@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>The comments are still there. Look for the tab that says comments. I was concerned at first as well, but actually it is all there</blockquote>*nod* There was no way we were letting four years of user comments get away from us. The site is mostly different than what we're all used to looking at. Not to mention, not green.

Reapicheap

04-24-2009, 11:41 AM

ERROR REPORTWhen submitting a page with filters, and progressing thru to the next page, said filters are being added 9 times per filter. Progressing to page 2 adds said filters 9 times again (for a total of 81 times now per filter). URL max length is being exceeded by page 2-4 depending on initial filter complexity.SUGGESTED ADDITIONAdd the armor types to the filters so we can look for Cloth, Leather, Chain and Plate separately or in specific combinations. Searchin by class has the unwanted side-effect of getting inferior armor types (Cloth when searching for Plate). Also, please add Appearance only items to the selections so that they may be searched independently of type (I assume they're all cloth, regardless of texturing, but may be wrong) and so as not to get utility (combat) gear mixed in with them.

Calthine

04-25-2009, 12:54 PM

Whups, completely forgot to mention that I've reported that search bug to our devs.

Noaani

04-26-2009, 10:18 AM

Another thing I have noticed, some of the drop info you have listed is old info (4 - 6 weeks old, so not a long time).Not sure how your getting the info, if its SoE feeding you the drop rate (and location) of items directly or if your dropping them, but it seems it hasn't been updated in at least a month.

Spyderbite

04-26-2009, 10:48 AM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not sure how your getting the info, if its SoE feeding you the drop rate (and location) of items directly or if your dropping them, but it seems it hasn't been updated in at least a month.</blockquote>We can certainly bring this to the attention of the devs, Noaani. However, just out of my own ignorance, how frequently do drop rates actually change? Daily, weekly, monthly? I only do high end content from time to time and I've never really taken the time to keep track of drops so I'm curious.Regardless.. we'll let the devs know that this is something that needs to be looked in to and if necessary corrected. Thanks!

Noaani

04-27-2009, 02:21 AM

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>We can certainly bring this to the attention of the devs, Noaani. However, just out of my own ignorance, how frequently do drop rates actually change? Daily, weekly, monthly? I only do high end content from time to time and I've never really taken the time to keep track of drops so I'm curious.</blockquote>They don't actually change often, but there are always changes to loot and loot tables on raid mobs in the first 3 months or so of an expansion.<cite>Kiara wrote:</cite><blockquote><li>Gynok Moltor will no longer drop Stained Mummy Bandages or the Eye Mounted Ring. His drops have been upgraded and new items have been added in place of the ones that were shared. </li><li>The Savage Wall was dropping from both Captain Ikalus and Xebnok the Wretched. Xebnok will no longer drop the Savage Wall and has had a new item added to his table to replace it. </li></blockquote><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=442734">Link</a> The loot table you have for Gynok and Xebnok is from before February 5th.

jimbrit

04-27-2009, 04:26 AM

Any more news on the EU servers?Kinda annoying to get a pop up "TRY THE NEW ZAM SERVICE" when you log in and not have the Euro servers actually included in stuff like the broker search

Calthine

04-27-2009, 04:52 AM

<cite>Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any more news on the EU servers?Kinda annoying to get a pop up "TRY THE NEW ZAM SERVICE" when you log in and not have the Euro servers actually included in stuff like the broker search</blockquote>No new news, except that enquiries are being made. We get that and I will shout it from the rooftops.

MDKUK

04-27-2009, 06:23 AM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any more news on the EU servers?Kinda annoying to get a pop up "TRY THE NEW ZAM SERVICE" when you log in and not have the Euro servers actually included in stuff like the broker search</blockquote>No new news, except that enquiries are being made. We get that and I will shout it from the rooftops.</blockquote>Hows about you disable or remove the message until you have corrected your "issue" out, why advertise a site that does not cater for all EQ2 players? or is this going to be another red headed step child affair?

Despak

04-27-2009, 08:58 AM

<cite>Chakine@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any more news on the EU servers?Kinda annoying to get a pop up "TRY THE NEW ZAM SERVICE" when you log in and not have the Euro servers actually included in stuff like the broker search</blockquote>No new news, except that enquiries are being made. We get that and I will shout it from the rooftops.</blockquote>Hows about you disable or remove the message until you have corrected your "issue" out, why advertise a site that does not cater for all EQ2 players? or is this going to be another red headed step child affair? </blockquote>Think you may want to address that to SoE, who as you know won't reply or do anything about it.

Spyderbite

04-27-2009, 11:21 AM

<cite>Chakine@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hows about you disable or remove the message until you have corrected your "issue" out, why advertise a site that does not cater for all EQ2 players? or is this going to be another red headed step child affair? </blockquote>1. The Broker info is just one of many aspects of the new EQ2 ZAM site.2. We, at ZAM, have no control over what appears when you login to game.We have two members on the EQ2 ZAM team from the UK who are just as anxious as you to see the Broker information displayed. So, don't worry, we're not intentionally slighting anybody. We'll send Cal straight to the roof to scream out the announcement once it happens. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Thunderthyze

04-27-2009, 11:41 AM

So, no EU server support and "you'll make enquiries". The database seems all over the place with mobs showing up in the wrong zone, some zones not populated, cross referencing "iffy" at best and you're blaming the feed from SOE. Just what ARE you going to take responsibility for?In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones. That apart my opinion is that the old Allakhazam site was actually far better designed. Hopefully you will sort out the problems quickly otherwise you will lose many subscribers not interested in lists of M1 spells to the Wiki site.

GrunEQ

04-27-2009, 12:14 PM

Congrats on the new site....however I don't find it as user-friendly as the old one. I use it for quest info quite a bit, and being able to pick by advanced search, zone, or type made finding them easy. Your search window is small and hard to "see" and when I get info it's all segrated, and not all together. I find this cumbersome and awkward.

jimbrit

04-27-2009, 12:20 PM

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chakine@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hows about you disable or remove the message until you have corrected your "issue" out, why advertise a site that does not cater for all EQ2 players? or is this going to be another red headed step child affair?</blockquote>1. The Broker info is just one of many aspects of the new EQ2 ZAM site.2. We, at ZAM, have no control over what appears when you login to game.We have two members on the EQ2 ZAM team from the UK who are just as anxious as you to see the Broker information displayed. So, don't worry, we're not intentionally slighting anybody. We'll send Cal straight to the roof to scream out the announcement once it happens. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Dont understand why it wasnt there from the start though. If you have members on the EQ2 team at Zam how did they not notice their server wasnt supported ?

Noaani

04-27-2009, 12:29 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>Congrats on the new site....however I don't find it as user-friendly as the old one. I use it for quest info quite a bit, and being able to pick by advanced search, zone, or type made finding them easy. Your search window is small and hard to "see" and when I get info it's all segrated, and not all together. I find this cumbersome and awkward.</blockquote>I'm wondering if Zam is heading away from quest info, and in to item/mob specific info. Sites like Wikia do quests very well (better than Zam ever did IMO, because a wiki is a faster format to deal with changes), but info such as spedifics on drop locations and percentages, mob locations and broker feeds simply can't be found anywhere else.If this is true, and Zam are heading in this way, they should make something of an effort to get correct and complete info, as they don't have that yet. Even if this is not the way they are heading, they should be trying to get correct and complete info.

Calthine

04-27-2009, 12:59 PM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm wondering if Zam is heading away from quest info, and in to item/mob specific info. Sites like Wikia do quests very well (better than Zam ever did IMO, because a wiki is a faster format to deal with changes)</blockquote>Um, we have a wiki. We have for well over a year! We also have a full quest db with data from SOE integrated with our wiki (hence the word "Wikibase". See for yourself! <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/db/questlist.html?1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.zam.com/db/questlist.html?1</a>

Calthine

04-27-2009, 08:44 PM

Bludwyng and our devs slapped the wiki around a bunch. You should see MASSIVE improvement in site speed.

firza

04-28-2009, 03:46 AM

awesome, great to hear the European servers will be added soon. (/sarcasm not towards ZAM, but towards SOE...and years of neglect)I presume all those nifty prices announced through SOE are of course also for the European customer base?I mean why would you neglect two of your better populated servers right?

MDKUK

04-28-2009, 04:31 AM

<cite>firza wrote:</cite><blockquote>awesome, great to hear the European servers will be added soon. (/sarcasm not towards ZAM, but towards SOE...and years of neglect)I presume all those nifty prices announced through SOE are of course also for the European customer base?I mean why would you neglect two of your better populated servers right?</blockquote>Euro servers..........? there are Euro Servers? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />

SilkenKidden

04-28-2009, 05:02 AM

I am unhappy with the new site. I'm unhappy with being asked to pay $4 a month in order to access item locations and other good information. I realize that Zam is under no obligation to provide this info free. However, SOE has long benefited from all the good free information available at Allakhazam. It made playing EQ2 a lot less work and a lot more fun. Hey, I thought not long ago (a year or so) SOE even acknowledged its debt to ZAM by partnering with them in some enterprise or the other. Not sure if the new Zam is the result. What I am sure is that it is getting more expensive to play this game every time I look around and the content is not worth the extra costs. I was holding my tongue about the Market Place. But now that Allakhazam is no longer available to me I am very annoyed. Again, not blaming anyone. Zam and SOE are businesses and this game and bulletin boards are their business. I wonder if they will find a continued market for their increasingly more expensive products.

Thunderthyze

04-28-2009, 09:46 AM

GlitterPaws

04-28-2009, 12:14 PM

<cite>Silken@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am unhappy with the new site. I'm unhappy with being asked to pay $4 a month in order to access item locations and other good information. </blockquote>Been a premium member since they launched Premium services. I pay annually. $2.50 a month is less than a gallon of gas, less than the coffee on the way to work, less than fries and a small salad at MickeyDs. Less than any number of daily items. Remember $2.50 is a MONTHLY rate if you pay for the entire YEAR in advance. Totally worth it to me. Much less than some of my other research subscriptions.Sometimes I forget to log in and when the search results aren't what I expect....it's a big DUH on me LOL.I appreciate the premium services at Alla (Zam) and don't use the EQ2Players extras. Tried that the first year, didn't get anything out of it and let it lapse.Of course, it is a personal choice ))

Calthine

04-28-2009, 01:18 PM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Silken@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am unhappy with the new site. I'm unhappy with being asked to pay $4 a month in order to access item locations and other good information. </blockquote>Go to the EQ2wikia instead?</blockquote>You don't need to pay anything to access the data. I just logged out and I can get to everything. For free. You just have to endure the ads.

SilkenKidden

04-28-2009, 02:41 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Silken@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am unhappy with the new site. I'm unhappy with being asked to pay $4 a month in order to access item locations and other good information. </blockquote>Go to the EQ2wikia instead?</blockquote>You don't need to pay anything to access the data. I just logged out and I can get to everything. For free. You just have to endure the ads.</blockquote>Thanks for a gracious reply to a crabby note. Glitterpaws has just about convinced me to spring for the $2.50 a month. Sorry for being a gripe, but I am out of sorts with all the changes, Market Place and now Zam and running out of solo/small group content for my level 80. I did find some locations on eq2I and that was good. I don't know how to see an item location on Zam now. Maybe I'm loolking in the wrong place. I'll try it again later and let you know if I have better luck. All I got last time was a message that I needed to be a premium member to see the locations. Don't really see that many ads. Or may I am just blind to them by now. Ok. found the ads. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Age of Conan is giving a free trial, but I will never ever try that game<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Here's a link to where it says I need premium to see the location of the item. I don't need the exact co-ordinates, just the zone would help or an area of the zone. <a href="http://lootdb.com/eq2/item/-1300445247">http://lootdb.com/eq2/item/-1300445247</a> Are item locations shown anywere else other than at the link?

GrunEQ

04-28-2009, 02:54 PM

I'm kinda getting the hang of moving around the new site....but I really miss the side bar. I've been a great fan and premium supporter of Allakhazam for years now...and hopefully for more years to come. Keep growing!

feldon30

04-28-2009, 03:07 PM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm wondering if Zam is heading away from quest info, and in to item/mob specific info. Sites like Wikia do quests very well (better than Zam ever did IMO, because a wiki is a faster format to deal with changes)</blockquote>A) EQ2.Zam.com Quest and Zone info is all Wiki. But instead of allowing endless edits which have led to me and several others leaving EQ2 Wikia because of pettiness, on EQ2 Zam, if you want something changed, post a comment. If you create a page or are assigned ownership over a page on EQ2 Zam, then you can keep it updated, fix mistakes, and it will just be a higher quality page. But you can't go willy-nilly screwing up pages and adding unresearched anecdotal crap.B) EQ2 Wikia has gaping holes with regards to The Shadow Odyssey quests, zones, and mob info. Look up TSO missions on EQ2 Zam and then look up the same ones on Wikia. It's night-and-day difference.I left EQ2 Wikia because:A) their templates especially categories only sort by Alpha, so any type of category list view is completely useless to users (how many people look up things by alpha instead of by type, by tier, by class, etc.?)B) arguments I got in with the editors over wanting to break up nice, clean, easy-to-understand pages into lots of little pages because they put structure over usability. I got the heck out of there when I was told they intended to split all the beautiful Epic Weapon questline pages into individual pages, one for each subquest (Druid epic weapon questline would have been something like 25 pages).C) there are some folks over there who will endlessly modify entries, monkeying around with the layout, moving things around, rather than create new pages to fill out the gaping holes in TSO content. I saw well-written, fact-checked content being replaced with original research.D) I got tired of spending hours creating articles and then I login the next day and someone's "fixed" it and made it look terrible, or replaced fact with opinion.I wish EQ2 Wikia the best, but there are many blank pages and yet they have folks re-editing and obsessing over pages that are perfectly fine.

feldon30

04-28-2009, 03:15 PM

I'm very happy with the polish that has been done in the last year on the content on EQ2 Zam's site. The new database search is solid and the broker is going to be my favorite new feature. If I have one complaint about EQ2 Zam, it's that there is no splash page to the site.Compare this:<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.zam.com/" target="_blank">http://www.zam.com/</a>to this:<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/</a>EQ2 Zam starts you out at an empty page with a search box and little menus at the top. I know that EQ2 Zam has more to say than "We're the Google of EQ2", so I am hoping in the future we'll see more content on the front page.

feldon30

04-28-2009, 03:19 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm wondering if Zam is heading away from quest info, and in to item/mob specific info. Sites like Wikia do quests very well (better than Zam ever did IMO, because a wiki is a faster format to deal with changes)</blockquote>Um, we have a wiki. We have for well over a year! We also have a full quest db with data from SOE integrated with our wiki (hence the word "Wikibase". See for yourself! <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/db/questlist.html?1" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/db/questlist.html?1</a></blockquote>Cal,The link you posted shows the Achilles Heel of database-driven websites. It's easy to get dumped out at a search box with thousands of results below it. It's overwhelming and ignores the idea of progressive exposure of content. There are some fantastic, well-organized pages on EQ2 Zam. I know you've been working your butt off. I even helped write a couple. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> But please don't sell yourself short by posting that link. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />I find this to be a beautiful page:<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Solo_Timelines" target="_blank">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Solo_Timelines</a>I wish there was some way to put a header on the Quest Search Page that you linked that included some of this:<a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/category%3AEQ2_Quest_Series" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/category%3A...Q2_Quest_Series</a>

Thunderthyze

04-29-2009, 03:52 AM

Wednesday and still no sign of the EU brokers appearing on your site. Not a priority guys? Well neither is the likelyhood of you receiving any subscriptions from the players on those servers. Runnyeye, Splitpaw, Valor, Innovation, and Storms. Five servers, quite a number of potential customers being snubbed right there.

Alienor

04-29-2009, 05:48 AM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>A) EQ2.Zam.com Quest and Zone info is all Wiki. But instead of allowing endless edits which have led to me and several others leaving EQ2 Wikia because of pettiness, on EQ2 Zam, if you want something changed, post a comment. If you create a page or are assigned ownership over a page on EQ2 Zam, then you can keep it updated, fix mistakes, and it will just be a higher quality page. But you can't go willy-nilly screwing up pages and adding unresearched anecdotal crap.... and when you loose interest you first have to find another person to adopt the page. Compared with wikipedia the number of concurrent edits on eq2i pages are neglectable. Actually I see no big advantage in zam's wiki over eq2i. Even more I wonder if the community really needs two wikis which copy&paste from each other with only little different information just because the admins do not like each other or the way the others do their stuff or for wahtever reason.B) EQ2 Wikia has gaping holes with regards to The Shadow Odyssey quests, zones, and mob info. Look up TSO missions on EQ2 Zam and then look up the same ones on Wikia. It's night-and-day difference.Maybe I am blind, but I do not understand what you mean by that. Actually eq2i missions are better imo, as at zam even the "how to start" is missing. For example: <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/db/quest.html?eq2quest=12a452d741109162c87c318928239d d2">http://eq2.zam.com/db/quest.html?eq...87c318928239dd2</a> and <a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Hope_for_the_Forlorn">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Hope_for_the_Forlorn</a></blockquote>

Noaani

04-29-2009, 05:50 AM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wednesday and still no sign of the EU brokers appearing on your site. Not a priority guys? Well neither is the likelyhood of you receiving any subscriptions from the players on those servers. Runnyeye, Splitpaw, Valor, Innovation, and Storms. Five servers, quite a number of potential customers being snubbed right there.</blockquote>Don't forget to add Sebilis, Barren Sky, Harla Dar and The Nexus.IMO you missing them out is as bad as Zam missing out the EU servers.

Alienor

04-29-2009, 06:06 AM

I wonder if the localised servers are really missed at all (or if the English broker information would be helpful for them). RE and Splitpaw are different as they are running the same content in the same language as the US servers but are populated more by folks living in GMT

Thunderthyze

05-01-2009, 02:08 PM

Friday, and still no sign of the non US server brokers. Just be honest with us you guys, you have no intention of causing waves with SOE to try and get this sorted have you? Either that or you've been told it ain't going to happen and you haven't got the balls to come right out and tell us. Honesty that's all we want.

Spyderbite

05-01-2009, 02:16 PM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Honesty that's all we want.</blockquote>And, that's exactly what you're getting. Ticket has been submitted and we are waiting to hear back regarding an ETA. As soon as we know.. we'll let you know. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Noaani

05-01-2009, 03:44 PM

And what about all the missing/incorrect data?

Kordran

05-01-2009, 04:02 PM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones.</blockquote>I presume that you've never heard of lootdb.com? Welcome to the intarwebs!

Calthine

05-01-2009, 04:08 PM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>And what about all the missing/incorrect data?</blockquote>We're working with SOE on that.

Calthine

05-01-2009, 04:09 PM

<cite>Kordran wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones.</blockquote>I presume that you've never heard of lootdb.com? Welcome to the intarwebs!</blockquote>*nod* There's been resources that have drops for a while, like lootdb and eq2llinks. This data just comes straight from the game.

Noaani

05-01-2009, 04:38 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>And what about all the missing/incorrect data?</blockquote>We're working with SOE on that.</blockquote>This is good to hear, hopefully it gets resolved soon.

Yimway

05-01-2009, 04:54 PM

Against my better judgement I took a look at the data on Zam.Was there a concious effort to not include useful data? Sure looks like it.Why can I not search by effect?The information displayed has no apparent value.

Thunderthyze

05-01-2009, 06:15 PM

<cite>Kordran wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones.</blockquote>I presume that you've never heard of lootdb.com? Welcome to the intarwebs!</blockquote>lootdb.com doesn't have access to actual drop rates

Kordran

05-01-2009, 07:41 PM

Actually, I believe that lootdb.com does have drop rates, but it's only available to registered players. How close those values are to the "actual" drop rates, can't really say but it would certainly be enough to give players an idea as long as the sample is large enough.

Calthine

05-02-2009, 10:13 PM

<cite>Kordran wrote:</cite><blockquote>Actually, I believe that lootdb.com does have drop rates, but it's only available to registered players. How close those values are to the "actual" drop rates, can't really say but it would certainly be enough to give players an idea as long as the sample is large enough.</blockquote>THose are drop rates as reported by players. The difference here is our are right out of the game data.

Calthine

05-02-2009, 10:15 PM

<cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why can I not search by effect?</blockquote>Hey, good question! Let's see if we can do anything about that.

Thunderthyze

05-04-2009, 03:49 AM

Two weeks in and still no sign of support for EU broker data. All we get from Calthine and Spyder is "we've submitted a ticket". Well I would have expected a trading partner to have had a little more of a direct line into SOE than CS tickets. There has always been this tendency by SOE to treat the non US servers as the red headed step children of the game, no access to competitions, game updates (at least) 24 hours after US servers, server maintenance at peak times, etc, etc, while still charging exactly the same subscription. Their sublime arrogance then extends into an attitude of "don't dare criticise us over this". Seems like this attitude is now spreading to Zam.No I am not subscribed to the Zam network, but you know what? Neither am I ever likely to be until the game servers I play on are treated with equality.

Calthine

05-04-2009, 05:13 AM

Actually, the answer on broker issues is "We're working with SOE on it." Don't need a ticket on it, we know it's not there <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I did enquire today, and I don't have any new information. Enhancements and bugs, those get tickets. I can tell you our broker system is getting it's own server, a work in progress right now. No, that doesn't do a thing for missing EU data, I know.

Thunderthyze

05-04-2009, 05:38 AM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Actually, the answer on broker issues is "We're working with SOE on it." Don't need a ticket on it, we know it's not there <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I did enquire today, and I don't have any new information. Enhancements and bugs, those get tickets. I can tell you our broker system is getting it's own server, a work in progress right now. No, that doesn't do a thing for missing EU data, I know.</blockquote>Sorry, but I can only react to posts I read posted by your colleagues:<cite><a href="mailto:Spyderbite@Venekor">Spyderbite@Venekor</a> wrote:</cite><blockquote>And, that's exactly what you're getting. Ticket has been submitted and we are waiting to hear back regarding an ETA. As soon as we know.. we'll let you know. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Can I ask whether or not you're confident of getting this data made available? Or are there issues that may make this data impossible to publish?

Spyderbite

05-04-2009, 01:08 PM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can I ask whether or not you're confident of getting this data made available? Or are there issues that may make this data impossible to publish?</blockquote>I apologize for that miscommunicaton. I am not part of the ticketing process so when I was told it was being worked on, I assumed it was something that required a ticket.But, the same applies.. it is being worked on and everyone will be notified with any new info that we receive. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Valsehna

05-05-2009, 03:40 AM

I like the way it looks. It feels much easier on my tired eyes.There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.

Calthine

05-05-2009, 03:47 AM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Actually, the answer on broker issues is "We're working with SOE on it." Don't need a ticket on it, we know it's not there <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I did enquire today, and I don't have any new information. Enhancements and bugs, those get tickets. I can tell you our broker system is getting it's own server, a work in progress right now. No, that doesn't do a thing for missing EU data, I know.</blockquote>Sorry, but I can only react to posts I read posted by your colleagues:<cite><a href="mailto:Spyderbite@Venekor">Spyderbite@Venekor</a> wrote:</cite><blockquote>And, that's exactly what you're getting. Ticket has been submitted and we are waiting to hear back regarding an ETA. As soon as we know.. we'll let you know. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Can I ask whether or not you're confident of getting this data made available? Or are there issues that may make this data impossible to publish?</blockquote>First, we're just the messengers. Spyder gets his info from me; we had a bad communication, for which I appologize.To address your last question: we can't publish it because we don't have it. But <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/forum.html?forum=19;mid=124115462548963678;num=3;p age=1" target="_blank">posted today on our EQ2 Zam forums</a>, by Illia, our Director of Technology (and yes, that's Illia of Illia's Everquest Bestiary):<blockquote>Broker data is upto date again,We're waiting on soe for non-NA servers.</blockquote>

Calthine

05-05-2009, 03:49 AM

<cite>Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I like the way it looks. It feels much easier on my tired eyes.There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.</blockquote>I will put a ticket in on that and see if we can enhance your site-browsing experience.Edit: what browser are you using?

Valsehna

05-05-2009, 04:08 AM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I like the way it looks. It feels much easier on my tired eyes.There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.</blockquote>I will put a ticket in on that and see if we can enhance your site-browsing experience.Edit: what browser are you using?</blockquote>That would be great. I just use IE.

Calthine

05-05-2009, 04:20 AM

<cite>Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I like the way it looks. It feels much easier on my tired eyes.There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.</blockquote>I will put a ticket in on that and see if we can enhance your site-browsing experience.Edit: what browser are you using?</blockquote>That would be great. I just use IE.</blockquote>Which version?

Valsehna

05-05-2009, 12:09 PM

IE7 currently. Thanks for the efforts!

Thunderthyze

05-07-2009, 05:32 AM

Thursday. Stopped holding my breath for the EU server support. Oh well, back to Wikia.

feldon30

05-08-2009, 06:27 PM

Wikia has real-time broker and drop rate stats? Who knew!

Giral

05-10-2009, 12:19 AM

i like the free 10 day WOW trial on the side of the page /nice touch that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" />

Calthine

05-10-2009, 03:13 AM

<cite>Giralus wrote:</cite><blockquote>i like the free 10 day WOW trial on the side of the page /nice touch that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I ROFL'd

Noaani

05-10-2009, 06:44 AM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wikia has real-time broker and drop rate stats? Who knew!</blockquote>While it doesn't have these things, what Wikia does have is the ability for me to correct any information I see as incorrect.Spending a few hours on Zam since it launched, I have seen several mob loot tables that are outright incorrect, mobs that are in the wrong place, mobs that are missing all together and broker info that was never accurate.While Wikia has incorrect information on it, I am able to correct it when I see it. With the SoE submitted data, even though it has glaring mistakes, I am unable to do anything about it.Even if for no other reason than this, Wikia is currently winning imo. When Zam gets complete and accurate info it will be amazing, but that is not currently the case.

Calthine

05-10-2009, 02:10 PM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>When Zam gets complete and accurate info it will be amazing, but that is not currently the case.</blockquote>Workin' on it!

hellfire

05-12-2009, 12:46 AM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wikia has real-time broker and drop rate stats? Who knew!</blockquote>Nothing real time about the broker info.Id say eq2 players is more up to date [Removed for Content].....and we all know how much of a failure eq2players is

Whilhelmina

05-14-2009, 12:08 PM

I used a bit the recipe part. It's great, especially the ressources needed (even if infos are incomplete in some cases). It's still way better than whant you had before or what Niami had on EQ2traders. Without all those missing recipes, changed recipes and so on that made all databases false to some extend. Not sure you'll be able to add localised servers as we have a lot of items that don't show the same numbers as english items (and so a lot of links don't work from our servers to other servers).

Calthine

05-15-2009, 02:45 PM

<cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite><blockquote>I used a bit the recipe part. It's great, especially the ressources needed (even if infos are incomplete in some cases). It's still way better than whant you had before or what Niami had on EQ2traders. Without all those missing recipes, changed recipes and so on that made all databases false to some extend. Not sure you'll be able to add localised servers as we have a lot of items that don't show the same numbers as english items (and so a lot of links don't work from our servers to other servers).</blockquote>Niami and I despaired trying to keep up with recipes by hand!

Whilhelmina

05-15-2009, 06:18 PM

Yep, and I never tried on my own website. I always thought it couldn't be done at all. Even the databases that are just posting items like lootdb are off because of all the removed/changed items so, for recipes, it was always worse. I'm really happy for both of you, this change is really great.

Thunderthyze

05-28-2009, 06:12 PM

My oh my. I was cruisin' the intarwebs today and thought I'd hit the Zam site for giggles. Guess what? No broker feeds for the EU servers. What a surprise. LULZ inc.

MDKUK

06-01-2009, 11:44 AM

Today is the 1st of June.... exactly 41 days after you started up the new ZAM site.28 "working" days and still no answer about the EU servers?This is the right way to lose potential customers, I mean cmon you posted on the 1st of may tto say that it was being looked into! laughable to say the least.

MDKUK

06-03-2009, 04:52 AM

Day 43And all was quiet in the ZAM brother house...........

hellfire

06-03-2009, 04:57 AM

Dont worry the broker feature is bout worthless because it lists things that arent for sale and is very far from real time.

MDKUK

06-08-2009, 10:37 AM

Day 48

Wrapye

06-08-2009, 12:53 PM

There are other glitches as well. Try finding a zone listing for either zone added in GU51. Changes to loot tables that were made in February are still not showing up. Not all the mobs for zones that are listed are present. Given that, who knows how long it will take their database to sync up to the new spell/combat art naming scheme coming in GU52.

MDKUK

06-11-2009, 07:35 AM

Sent Calthine a PM yesterday, No reply, so do I take that as a can't be bothered reply?

Noaani

06-11-2009, 08:11 AM

I'd take it as she has nothing further to add yet.When she knows something, she'll post it. If you actually want to find out whats happening, I suggest finding out who at SoE is dealing with this data feed and ask them questions directly.

Alienor

06-11-2009, 08:13 AM

And zam with its amazing connections to SOE cannot ask this simple question? How should I find out who is responsible at Sony for what? They are already ignoring questions from our end in perfection and the EU servers in general.

MDKUK

06-11-2009, 02:17 PM

<cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'd take it as she has nothing further to add yet.When she knows something, she'll post it. If you actually want to find out whats happening, I suggest finding out who at SoE is dealing with this data feed and ask them questions directly.</blockquote>yes, well thank you very constructive..............

MDKUK

06-16-2009, 07:26 AM

Day 56 in the big ZAM house:Things to do today<ol><li>Check ZAM site</li><li>Maintenance check on ZAM server</li><li>Backup maintenace </li><li>Speak to SOE about Euro server feed and the totally lack of it note to self can't be arsed its only the Euro servers.</li><li>Check data feed for accuracy Screw that its lunch time.</li></ol>

Karian

06-16-2009, 07:44 AM

Whats now with the Euro Servers ?

MDKUK

06-16-2009, 08:09 AM

SOE/ZAM seemingly "forgot" to add Euro servers in there live data feeds.

Wrapye

06-16-2009, 11:48 AM

<cite>Chakine@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>SOE/ZAM seemingly "forgot" to add Euro servers in their "live" data feeds.</blockquote>You forgot the second set of quotes around "live". Fixed it for you.

Jasuo

06-16-2009, 12:35 PM

This game has euro servers? Man learn something new everday <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />

SisterTheresa

06-16-2009, 12:48 PM

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Isisalthea@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am glad you kept the individual comments attached to the quests.</blockquote>That was something that was very important to those of us on the EQ2 team at ZAM. The community helped develop and shape and update the quests through their comments. And, we didn't want to lose that. The same goes for the Wiki pages. Much of those pages are player contributed. And, to lose that would be to throw away the personable feel of the site as well as all the hard work the players put in to their contributions. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I completely agree with that.As for the new site I do like it. As another poster said, it will be something new to get used to.

Vraeth

07-08-2009, 06:34 AM

no eu broker search yet? /tapfoot2 and a half month already, c'mon whats going on??

GrunEQ

07-08-2009, 02:07 PM

<cite>Katryina@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Isisalthea@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am glad you kept the individual comments attached to the quests.</blockquote>That was something that was very important to those of us on the EQ2 team at ZAM. The community helped develop and shape and update the quests through their comments. And, we didn't want to lose that. The same goes for the Wiki pages. Much of those pages are player contributed. And, to lose that would be to throw away the personable feel of the site as well as all the hard work the players put in to their contributions. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I completely agree with that.As for the new site I do like it. As another poster said, it will be something new to get used to.</blockquote>I've been looking up quest info quite a bit lately and what I don't seem to be finding are the player comments. Where can I find them?

Isisalthea

07-08-2009, 02:30 PM

Not all the quests have comments from players. But if they do, there is a tab labled comments. It is below the base quest info, with the wiki and discussion tabs if there are any.

Calthine

07-08-2009, 02:56 PM

<cite>Isisalthea@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not all the quests have comments from players. But if they do, there is a tab labled comments. It is below the base quest info, with the wiki and discussion tabs if there are any.</blockquote>Correct! That's the one thing that throws peopel off the most. There's so much info it's been put into tabs at the bottom of the db entries. All player comments have been preserved.

MDKUK

07-09-2009, 09:10 AM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Isisalthea@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Not all the quests have comments from players. But if they do, there is a tab labled comments. It is below the base quest info, with the wiki and discussion tabs if there are any.</blockquote>Correct! That's the one thing that throws peopel off the most. There's so much info it's been put into tabs at the bottom of the db entries. All player comments have been preserved.</blockquote>And again Calthine you ignore the other question with regards to the EU servers, ever thought of becoming a politician? I think you would be great!

Calthine

07-09-2009, 01:24 PM

<cite>Chakine@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>And again Calthine you ignore the other question with regards to the EU servers, ever thought of becoming a politician? I think you would be great!</blockquote>I still haven't an answer I can give you, although I did talk to Illia about it at Fan Faire and tried to impress the gravity of the situation.

firza

08-07-2009, 05:47 AM

Thunderthyze

08-07-2009, 06:03 AM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chakine@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>And again Calthine you ignore the other question with regards to the EU servers, ever thought of becoming a politician? I think you would be great!</blockquote>I still haven't an answer I can give you, although I did talk to Illia about it at Fan Faire and tried to impress the gravity of the situation.</blockquote>I find it a bit difficult to believe that your only avenue of contact with Illia is at Fan Faire.I remember last year's Fan Faire when SOE and Zam proudly announced their linking up to provide all the information that was available on the old Zam site, EQ2Players, and then some. Obviously with all this fabulous content a subscription would end up being charged but it would be worth it......apparently.Well, 13 months on and I've got to say that this whole endeavour has been one huge steaming pile of "meh". Lack of live feeds, lack of support for Euro servers, inaccurate loot database, I could go on, but you know what? I'll take a leaf out of your book.....can't be bothered.