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Ama
09-05-2007, 08:43 PM
Wanted to ask if there was any information about these creatures.  Examined an abomination tooth and it came up saying This is an item from an Otyugh.  Didn't know that they actually had a real name. 

Cusashorn
09-05-2007, 09:20 PM
Neither did I.

troodon
09-05-2007, 11:16 PM
That is a very ugly name, it fits them well

Ama
09-05-2007, 11:33 PM
<p>Meant to post this a while back, but I kept thinking it was a bug.  However the name kept turning up whenever I examed the items.  I'm wondering if these things were created by the Erudites or if they are creatures that exist within another dimension that they call forth.  Always see them with the Erudites in the Labratory of Lord Vymm and in the Halls of Fate.  </p><p>The possibility of them being called forth from another dimension maybe seen in HoF.  There we see Ishikurate *sp* called forth in a shattering of a dimensional barrier.  It goes about destroying the erudites that summoned her/it before seeking us out.  </p><p>Another thing is if they are from another dimension what dimension is it? Are there infinite dimensions out there with horrible creatures in them or are these things from a dimension we already know about? </p>

Mirander_1
09-06-2007, 12:42 AM
Well, I don't know much about their in-game lore, but the name is from several creatures in KoS that originally were put in-game with their D&D names (I'm guessing this was during beta), but later had new names made up for them.  So Otyugh became Abomination, Beholder became Gazer, and Draconian became Droag.

troodon
09-06-2007, 12:58 AM
I always found the name Beholder strange for the Gazers, since King Xorbb's Gorge in EQ1 was also called Beholder's Maze but there were only Evil Eyes there

standupwookie
09-06-2007, 12:24 PM
I think the name Beholder was trademarked by Wizards of the Coast, which owns the D&D lines.  Like the Tolkien estate would not let anyone use the name "hobbits" (instead they get halflings) somehow WOTC didnt let SOE use the name Beholder for some reason.That is why all the "Beholder" mobs are called Gazers, and also why that zone in EQ1 has no Beholders....dunno, but I think I remember that from a long time ago.

Saroc_Luclin
09-06-2007, 02:13 PM
As for the Beholder's name, I have never looked into it, but the first thing that comes to mind is it's a play on the old saying "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder". Given the Evil Eyes in EQ had a habit of charming you (thus making themselves seem beautiful enough to you to fight to your death for them) only reinforced that IMO.

Ama
09-07-2007, 01:35 PM
The one thing that is kind of dissapointing is I have found no lore surrounding these things.  It's like they are a mystery yet the way the Erudites use them it's like they have known about them for quite a while.

Zard
09-07-2007, 01:41 PM
<p>An Otyugh from the Dungeons and Dragons Monster Manual:</p><p> <img src="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG204.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="296" border="0" /></p>

Dendro
09-07-2007, 02:37 PM
In Halls of Fate there's an otyugh named Ishi-Kurrat, and there's a Loping Plains quest mob named Fhoorl-Kurrat.  My absolute favorite thing about HoF is the Lovecraftian feel of the Quellithulian cultists chanting forbidden spells to summon this abomination from beyond....at which point I /shout, "Erudite! It's what's for dinner!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Ayi! Ayi! K'tha'n Ishi-Kurrat!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Gl'nui Ishi-Kurrat! Urize! Urize!"

Cusashorn
09-07-2007, 02:39 PM
<p>I like how they say it in Erudian, but even if you speak Erudian, you still don't know what they're saying.</p>

Zard
09-07-2007, 03:26 PM
<cite>Dendro wrote:</cite><blockquote>In Halls of Fate there's an otyugh named Ishi-Kurrat, and there's a Loping Plains quest mob named Fhoorl-Kurrat.  My absolute favorite thing about HoF is the Lovecraftian feel of the Quellithulian cultists chanting forbidden spells to summon this abomination from beyond....at which point I /shout, "Erudite! It's what's for dinner!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Ayi! Ayi! K'tha'n Ishi-Kurrat!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Gl'nui Ishi-Kurrat! Urize! Urize!"</blockquote><p>Sounds strangely like "Ayi! Ayi! All hail Yog-sothoth!" or "Great Cthulhu, arise, arise!"</p><p>Time to roll a sanity check. . .</p>

teddyboy4
09-07-2007, 03:37 PM
From the looks of them I would guess that they are creatures of Fear. The Erudites, well some of them anyway, have always been big supporters of Cazic Thule, and with the news that Erudite society as a whole has come together and now they worship both Cazic and Quellious, who knows? Maybe they are a construct the Erudites whipped up with all the new arcane knowledge they have learned through their new religion, Quelthulian or whatever. They certainly do share a strong resemblance to other denizens and creatures of Fear in any case.

Ama
09-07-2007, 03:42 PM
<cite>Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>From the looks of them I would guess that they are creatures of Fear. The Erudites, well some of them anyway, have always been big supporters of Cazic Thule, and with the news that Erudite society as a whole has come together and now they worship both Cazic and Quellious, who knows? Maybe they are a construct the Erudites whipped up with all the new arcane knowledge they have learned through their new religion, Quelthulian or whatever. They certainly do share a strong resemblance to other denizens and creatures of Fear in any case.</blockquote>Well it could be that the Erudites in the vaults while experimenting with teleportation messed something up.  Perhaps they came upon some ancient text and miss translated it as how to teleport someone to somewhere.  Instead it teleported something from somewhere else to them.