The Otyugh

Ama · 09-05-2007, 08:43 PM

Wanted to ask if there was any information about these creatures. Examined an abomination tooth and it came up saying This is an item from an Otyugh. Didn't know that they actually had a real name.

Cusashorn · 09-05-2007, 09:20 PM

Neither did I.

troodon · 09-05-2007, 11:16 PM

That is a very ugly name, it fits them well

Ama · 09-05-2007, 11:33 PM

Meant to post this a while back, but I kept thinking it was a bug. However the name kept turning up whenever I examed the items. I'm wondering if these things were created by the Erudites or if they are creatures that exist within another dimension that they call forth. Always see them with the Erudites in the Labratory of Lord Vymm and in the Halls of Fate.

The possibility of them being called forth from another dimension maybe seen in HoF. There we see Ishikurate *sp* called forth in a shattering of a dimensional barrier. It goes about destroying the erudites that summoned her/it before seeking us out.

Another thing is if they are from another dimension what dimension is it? Are there infinite dimensions out there with horrible creatures in them or are these things from a dimension we already know about?

Mirander_1 · 09-06-2007, 12:42 AM

Well, I don't know much about their in-game lore, but the name is from several creatures in KoS that originally were put in-game with their D&D names (I'm guessing this was during beta), but later had new names made up for them. So Otyugh became Abomination, Beholder became Gazer, and Draconian became Droag.

troodon · 09-06-2007, 12:58 AM

I always found the name Beholder strange for the Gazers, since King Xorbb's Gorge in EQ1 was also called Beholder's Maze but there were only Evil Eyes there

standupwookie · 09-06-2007, 12:24 PM

I think the name Beholder was trademarked by Wizards of the Coast, which owns the D&D lines. Like the Tolkien estate would not let anyone use the name "hobbits" (instead they get halflings) somehow WOTC didnt let SOE use the name Beholder for some reason.That is why all the "Beholder" mobs are called Gazers, and also why that zone in EQ1 has no Beholders....dunno, but I think I remember that from a long time ago.

Saroc_Luclin · 09-06-2007, 02:13 PM

As for the Beholder's name, I have never looked into it, but the first thing that comes to mind is it's a play on the old saying "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder". Given the Evil Eyes in EQ had a habit of charming you (thus making themselves seem beautiful enough to you to fight to your death for them) only reinforced that IMO.

Ama · 09-07-2007, 01:35 PM

The one thing that is kind of dissapointing is I have found no lore surrounding these things. It's like they are a mystery yet the way the Erudites use them it's like they have known about them for quite a while.

Zard · 09-07-2007, 01:41 PM

An Otyugh from the Dungeons and Dragons Monster Manual:

Dendro · 09-07-2007, 02:37 PM

In Halls of Fate there's an otyugh named Ishi-Kurrat, and there's a Loping Plains quest mob named Fhoorl-Kurrat. My absolute favorite thing about HoF is the Lovecraftian feel of the Quellithulian cultists chanting forbidden spells to summon this abomination from beyond....at which point I /shout, "Erudite! It's what's for dinner!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Ayi! Ayi! K'tha'n Ishi-Kurrat!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Gl'nui Ishi-Kurrat! Urize! Urize!"

Cusashorn · 09-07-2007, 02:39 PM

I like how they say it in Erudian, but even if you speak Erudian, you still don't know what they're saying.

Zard · 09-07-2007, 03:26 PM

Dendro wrote:

In Halls of Fate there's an otyugh named Ishi-Kurrat, and there's a Loping Plains quest mob named Fhoorl-Kurrat. My absolute favorite thing about HoF is the Lovecraftian feel of the Quellithulian cultists chanting forbidden spells to summon this abomination from beyond....at which point I /shout, "Erudite! It's what's for dinner!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Ayi! Ayi! K'tha'n Ishi-Kurrat!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Gl'nui Ishi-Kurrat! Urize! Urize!"

Sounds strangely like "Ayi! Ayi! All hail Yog-sothoth!" or "Great Cthulhu, arise, arise!"

Time to roll a sanity check. . .

teddyboy4 · 09-07-2007, 03:37 PM

From the looks of them I would guess that they are creatures of Fear. The Erudites, well some of them anyway, have always been big supporters of Cazic Thule, and with the news that Erudite society as a whole has come together and now they worship both Cazic and Quellious, who knows? Maybe they are a construct the Erudites whipped up with all the new arcane knowledge they have learned through their new religion, Quelthulian or whatever. They certainly do share a strong resemblance to other denizens and creatures of Fear in any case.

Ama · 09-07-2007, 03:42 PM

Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:

From the looks of them I would guess that they are creatures of Fear. The Erudites, well some of them anyway, have always been big supporters of Cazic Thule, and with the news that Erudite society as a whole has come together and now they worship both Cazic and Quellious, who knows? Maybe they are a construct the Erudites whipped up with all the new arcane knowledge they have learned through their new religion, Quelthulian or whatever. They certainly do share a strong resemblance to other denizens and creatures of Fear in any case.

Well it could be that the Erudites in the vaults while experimenting with teleportation messed something up. Perhaps they came upon some ancient text and miss translated it as how to teleport someone to somewhere. Instead it teleported something from somewhere else to them.

09-05-2007, 08:43 PM	#1
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Wanted to ask if there was any information about these creatures. Examined an abomination tooth and it came up saying This is an item from an Otyugh. Didn't know that they actually had a real name. __________________

09-05-2007, 11:16 PM	#3
troodon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Temple of Terror, Cabilis Posts: 1,098	That is a very ugly name, it fits them well __________________ ---- ROL GRATUL SKORCHERS!!

09-05-2007, 11:33 PM	#4
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Meant to post this a while back, but I kept thinking it was a bug. However the name kept turning up whenever I examed the items. I'm wondering if these things were created by the Erudites or if they are creatures that exist within another dimension that they call forth. Always see them with the Erudites in the Labratory of Lord Vymm and in the Halls of Fate. The possibility of them being called forth from another dimension maybe seen in HoF. There we see Ishikurate sp called forth in a shattering of a dimensional barrier. It goes about destroying the erudites that summoned her/it before seeking us out. Another thing is if they are from another dimension what dimension is it? Are there infinite dimensions out there with horrible creatures in them or are these things from a dimension we already know about? __________________

09-06-2007, 12:42 AM	#5
Mirander_1 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,229	Well, I don't know much about their in-game lore, but the name is from several creatures in KoS that originally were put in-game with their D&D names (I'm guessing this was during beta), but later had new names made up for them. So Otyugh became Abomination, Beholder became Gazer, and Draconian became Droag. __________________ Mirander 90 Wizard Unrest server

09-06-2007, 12:58 AM	#6
troodon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Temple of Terror, Cabilis Posts: 1,098	I always found the name Beholder strange for the Gazers, since King Xorbb's Gorge in EQ1 was also called Beholder's Maze but there were only Evil Eyes there __________________ ---- ROL GRATUL SKORCHERS!!

09-05-2007, 09:20 PM	#2
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Neither did I.

09-06-2007, 12:24 PM	#7
standupwookie Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 220	I think the name Beholder was trademarked by Wizards of the Coast, which owns the D&D lines. Like the Tolkien estate would not let anyone use the name "hobbits" (instead they get halflings) somehow WOTC didnt let SOE use the name Beholder for some reason.That is why all the "Beholder" mobs are called Gazers, and also why that zone in EQ1 has no Beholders....dunno, but I think I remember that from a long time ago.

09-06-2007, 02:13 PM	#8
Saroc_Luclin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 534	As for the Beholder's name, I have never looked into it, but the first thing that comes to mind is it's a play on the old saying "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder". Given the Evil Eyes in EQ had a habit of charming you (thus making themselves seem beautiful enough to you to fight to your death for them) only reinforced that IMO.

09-07-2007, 01:35 PM	#9
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	The one thing that is kind of dissapointing is I have found no lore surrounding these things. It's like they are a mystery yet the way the Erudites use them it's like they have known about them for quite a while. __________________

09-07-2007, 01:41 PM	#10
Zard General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Longmont, CO (USA) Posts: 573	An Otyugh from the Dungeons and Dragons Monster Manual: __________________

09-07-2007, 02:37 PM	#11
Dendro Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 99	In Halls of Fate there's an otyugh named Ishi-Kurrat, and there's a Loping Plains quest mob named Fhoorl-Kurrat. My absolute favorite thing about HoF is the Lovecraftian feel of the Quellithulian cultists chanting forbidden spells to summon this abomination from beyond....at which point I /shout, "Erudite! It's what's for dinner!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Ayi! Ayi! K'tha'n Ishi-Kurrat!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Gl'nui Ishi-Kurrat! Urize! Urize!"

09-07-2007, 02:39 PM	#12
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	I like how they say it in Erudian, but even if you speak Erudian, you still don't know what they're saying.

09-07-2007, 03:26 PM	#13
Zard General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Longmont, CO (USA) Posts: 573	Dendro wrote: In Halls of Fate there's an otyugh named Ishi-Kurrat, and there's a Loping Plains quest mob named Fhoorl-Kurrat. My absolute favorite thing about HoF is the Lovecraftian feel of the Quellithulian cultists chanting forbidden spells to summon this abomination from beyond....at which point I /shout, "Erudite! It's what's for dinner!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Ayi! Ayi! K'tha'n Ishi-Kurrat!"A dragonmarked ritualist says in Erudian, "Gl'nui Ishi-Kurrat! Urize! Urize!" Sounds strangely like "Ayi! Ayi! All hail Yog-sothoth!" or "Great Cthulhu, arise, arise!" Time to roll a sanity check. . . __________________

09-07-2007, 03:37 PM	#14
teddyboy4 General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 299	From the looks of them I would guess that they are creatures of Fear. The Erudites, well some of them anyway, have always been big supporters of Cazic Thule, and with the news that Erudite society as a whole has come together and now they worship both Cazic and Quellious, who knows? Maybe they are a construct the Erudites whipped up with all the new arcane knowledge they have learned through their new religion, Quelthulian or whatever. They certainly do share a strong resemblance to other denizens and creatures of Fear in any case. __________________

09-07-2007, 03:42 PM	#15
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote: From the looks of them I would guess that they are creatures of Fear. The Erudites, well some of them anyway, have always been big supporters of Cazic Thule, and with the news that Erudite society as a whole has come together and now they worship both Cazic and Quellious, who knows? Maybe they are a construct the Erudites whipped up with all the new arcane knowledge they have learned through their new religion, Quelthulian or whatever. They certainly do share a strong resemblance to other denizens and creatures of Fear in any case. Well it could be that the Erudites in the vaults while experimenting with teleportation messed something up. Perhaps they came upon some ancient text and miss translated it as how to teleport someone to somewhere. Instead it teleported something from somewhere else to them. __________________