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Raminicus
08-28-2006, 03:23 AM
<div></div><div>Hi All,</div> <div> </div> <div>I've just recently come back from a leave of absence from EQ2 (seems to be a trend around here) and I'm playing an alt that I hadn't invested much time in while I was here before.  My alt is now (after this weekend) a 31 ranger.  I love it!! So much more fun than my high lvl warlock.</div> <div> </div> <div>Back when I was concentrating on my warlock I had an in-game friend who was a great ranger.  He used to brag about stacking poisons and which poisons to use.  I didn't pay much attention as I was a worlock at the time - my response was that nothing beat MY poisons heh.</div> <div> </div> <div>Now that I'm concentrating on ranger, I regret not paying closer attention.  Could someone please explain which poisons stack?  What are your favorite uses for poisons?  How many do you carry with you?  How often do you switch it up?  etc.</div> <div> </div> <div>I hope I didn't miss this explanation in a stickied post somewhere ...</div><p>Message Edited by Raminicus on <span class=date_text>08-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:02 PM</span>

Gerdos
08-28-2006, 05:43 AM
<DIV>With LU20, POISONS changed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As things currently stand, Poisons come in 3 categories (recogniseable by their colour code).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3333><STRONG><U>RED</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3333>Caustic Poison - Direct Damage</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3333>Hemotoxin - Damage over Time</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3333>Mental Breach - Power Tap</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff3333>Vitality Breach - Life Tap</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U><STRONG><FONT color=#66ffff>CYAN</FONT></STRONG></U></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ffff>Ignorant Bliss - Deaggro</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ffff>Turgur - Decrease Attack Speed</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ffff>Fettering - Decrease Run Speed</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff><STRONG><U>PURPLE</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff>Gracelessness - Melee Defense Debuff</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff>Warding Ebb - Magical Defense Debuff</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff>Enfeebling - Melee Attack Debuff</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cc00ff>Cerebral Ebb - Magical Attack Debuff</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can stack 1 poison from each group with another group, but cannot stack poisons from the same group.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, potions stack on top of poisons, such as STAT buffs, Increase Crit % buff, Wards/Mitigations, Power/Health buffs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All potions/poisons have their own prefix to identify their tier and legendary/treasured (rare) or common classification.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><STRONG>Common</STRONG></SPAN><BR>T7 - Exceptional<BR>T6 - Remarkable<BR>T5 - Superior<BR>T4 - Superb<BR>T3 - Greater<BR>T2 - ???<BR>T1 - Lesser<BR><BR><SPAN><STRONG>Treasured (rare)</STRONG></SPAN><BR>T7 - Grandmaster<BR>T6 - Master<BR>T5 - Apothecary<BR>T4 - Workman<BR>T3 - Journeyman<BR>T2 - Apprentice<BR>T1 - Neophyte<BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Gerdos on <span class=date_text>08-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:45 PM</span>

Raminicus
08-28-2006, 05:58 AM
<DIV>Thank you so much, this is exactly what I was looking for <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

xandez
08-28-2006, 04:01 PM
Nice post Gerdos, i hope someone stickies this, since teh old poison info is, well... old <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan<div></div>

Elephant
08-28-2006, 05:09 PM
STICKY please :smileysurprised:

Anxi
08-28-2006, 07:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raminicus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hi All,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've just recently come back from a leave of absence from EQ2 (seems to be a trend around here) and I'm playing an alt that I hadn't invested much time in while I was here before.  My alt is now (after this weekend) a 31 ranger.  I love it!! So much more fun than my high lvl warlock.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back when I was concentrating on my warlock I had an in-game friend who was a great ranger.  He used to brag about stacking poisons and which poisons to use.  I didn't pay much attention as I was a worlock at the time - my response was that nothing beat MY poisons heh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now that I'm concentrating on ranger, I regret not paying closer attention.  Could someone please explain which poisons stack?  What are your favorite uses for poisons?  How many do you carry with you?  How often do you switch it up?  etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope I didn't miss this explanation in a stickied post somewhere ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>To further answer your questions about poisons here are my thoughs. </P> <P>I typically run with Exceptional Caustic, Ignorant Bliss and Gracelessness. Seems to be a good combination to me. I carry a ton of poisons with me usually 1 stack of each debuff type, 1 stack of each utility type (the cyan colored ones) and then a few stacks of the damage ones. I rarely switch up poisons for specific encounters, only thing I do switch is vitality breach for caustic when soloing.</P> <P>Be sure to become friends with a good aclhemist =)</P> <P>Hope that helps.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

Raminicus
08-28-2006, 08:20 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Anxion wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raminicus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hi All,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've just recently come back from a leave of absence from EQ2 (seems to be a trend around here) and I'm playing an alt that I hadn't invested much time in while I was here before.  My alt is now (after this weekend) a 31 ranger.  I love it!! So much more fun than my high lvl warlock.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Back when I was concentrating on my warlock I had an in-game friend who was a great ranger.  He used to brag about stacking poisons and which poisons to use.  I didn't pay much attention as I was a worlock at the time - my response was that nothing beat MY poisons heh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now that I'm concentrating on ranger, I regret not paying closer attention.  Could someone please explain which poisons stack?  What are your favorite uses for poisons?  How many do you carry with you?  How often do you switch it up?  etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope I didn't miss this explanation in a stickied post somewhere ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>To further answer your questions about poisons here are my thoughs. </P> <P>I typically run with Exceptional Caustic, Ignorant Bliss and Gracelessness. Seems to be a good combination to me. I carry a ton of poisons with me usually 1 stack of each debuff type, 1 stack of each utility type (the cyan colored ones) and then a few stacks of the damage ones. I rarely switch up poisons for specific encounters, only thing I do switch is vitality breach for caustic when soloing.</P> <P>Be sure to become friends with a good aclhemist =)</P> <P>Hope that helps.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>It does, thank you.  The impetus for this thread was the I bought a some superior caustic and some superior hemotoxin, stacks of 20 of each, hoping to stack them.  Well, obviously that didn't work out, lol.  I'm now thinking, though, that I can switch up those poisons based on what encounters I'm facing - one's a DoT, for heroic or epic mobs or soloing, and the other is a straight dmg poison, for burning down mobs quickly.</P> <P>Now that I have all this info, though, I'm much better equipped <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </P> <P>Thanks again!</P>

Bratik
08-28-2006, 09:28 PM
This may be a little scary, but I am a 51 ranger and this post was helpful to me.  Thanks : )

KnightOfTheWo
08-28-2006, 10:03 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Bratikus wrote:<div></div>This may be a little scary, but I am a 51 ranger and this post was helpful to me.  Thanks : )<hr></blockquote>Not scary at all. Poisons used to be MUCH more difficult to understand, between types, colors and how many you could stack. <span>:smileyhappy:</span> Gerdos summed it up very well.</div>

Taubin
08-28-2006, 10:23 PM
Thanks for the sticky <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

Gerdos
08-30-2006, 01:04 PM
<P>Hi,</P> <P>can you please remove the sticky on this thread ... and add a sticky to the new thread i started, titled "RANGER - RESOURCES".</P> <P>thanks</P> <P> </P>

Taubin
08-31-2006, 01:07 AM
<div></div>Best way for that to happen would be to PM a mod.  That's how this one got stickied <span>:smileywink:</span><blockquote><hr>Gerdos wrote:<div></div> <p>Hi,</p> <p>can you please remove the sticky on this thread ... and add a sticky to the new thread i started, titled "RANGER - RESOURCES".</p> <p>thanks</p> <hr></blockquote>**** edit: nm, other one is already stickied ****<div></div><p>Message Edited by GTaubin on <span class=date_text>08-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:10 PM</span>

Raminicus
09-01-2006, 08:42 AM
<DIV>my 15 minutes are over <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

xandez
09-01-2006, 11:28 AM
erm, que? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />++Xan<div></div>

Raminicus
09-02-2006, 04:01 AM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> xandez wrote:<BR>erm, que? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR><BR>++Xan<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The thread was stickied, thereby placing my name in view of all who visit this boards.  Thusly, the time frame in which this thread was stickied was my 15 minutes of fame, which are now over.  I was trying to be humorous.</DIV>

Jowita
09-05-2006, 09:44 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>Raminicus wrote:</P> <P>The thread was stickied, thereby placing my name in view of all who visit this boards.  Thusly, the time frame in which this thread was stickied was my 15 minutes of fame, which are now over.  I was trying to be humorous.<BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>You were. I laughed for 15 minutes. Now I can't recall your name, or what I thought was so funny.</P> <P>Strange how that works.</P> <P>j/k <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Love,</P> <P>Jowita</P>

Phyrewat
09-07-2006, 12:08 AM
Thanks a bunch, I have been applying caustic poison, then applying hemotoxin. The ganme allows you to do it but had no idea they were'nt stacking. You just saved me some coin