Will we lose cheap shot and evasion?

[littleman17]

<div>You know those hella useful scout class skills that I use almost every fight?</div><div> </div><div>Cheap shot allows me to use my back attacks during solo fights and stun heroic just as they are about to use a skill.</div><div> </div><div>Evasion allows me to switch my HO in solo and has saved my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] many times while out with a tank that can't hold aggro well.</div><div> </div><div>With the upcoming revamp, all scout skills will be wiped out replaced with new ones? Will we get our own new versions of these two useful skills?</div>

[Deml]

<div></div>I would assume we keep both of them.  Cheap shot is an essential skill for a lot of rangers, especially at lower levels (pre 30ish).  If they do anything with Elude, I hope it's that they give it a longer range so it might actually be used at the higher levels.

[Lysanthir Ahmquissar]

<div></div><p>I can't imagine them removing Cheap Shot as it is really important for any solo player.</p><p> </p>

[supersupervisor]

<div></div><div>yes. but if SOE ever wants to pull streight the classes for PVP (dont eat me - im not saying its right) they will have to get rid of cheap shot. its just too great a skill and makes the scout quitte invinsible. perhaps they can make it like charm: not when citizen of Queynos - Freeport or City betrayer. so it wouldnt be use-able in PVP but it would be in soloing. allso - they could give us one with a longer cast time and a longer stun time. anyways. beeing a ranger. i think SOE should keep our one and only stun alive. or give us a new one <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[xandez]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>supersupervisor wrote:<div></div><div>yes. but if SOE ever wants to pull streight the classes for PVP (dont eat me - im not saying its right) they will have to get rid of cheap shot. its just too great a skill and makes the scout quitte invinsible.<font color="#ff9900">Well lotsa other classes have stuns and some classes have their means of breaking the stuns or making them immune to stuns... I think cheapshot is far from too good, especially since its our only stun.</font>perhaps they can make it like charm: not when citizen of Queynos - Freeport or City betrayer. so it wouldnt be use-able in PVP but it would be in soloing. allso - they could give us one with a longer cast time and a longer stun time. anyways. beeing a ranger. i think SOE should keep our one and only stun alive. or give us a new one <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><font color="#ff9900">I think it will be kept alive, if not... bleh.</font><font color="#ff9900"></font><font color="#ff9900">What comes for PvP, they are making some adjustements regarding PvP dmg etc, so i think they will consider stuns also when they do that.</font></div><hr></blockquote><font color="#ff9900">++Xan</font>

[supersupervisor]

<div></div><p>ah yeah? well about 2 classes i know can get resistant to stun (i probably know lots not but meh) which are  templar and shadowknight - at the time they have been able to activate that we can have cheapshotted em 6 times (0.5s cast i believe). then its triple arrow - sharp shot and baybay matey (if ye have a decent bow - poison - arrows - and spell lvl). OFC they can pre-activat these skills - without a doubt ey can, i cant say anything to that, but thats 2 classes who can get resistant - 22 to go....(mebbe less if im wrong). by that - I didnt say theyd kill cheap shot - littleman did...im only sugegsting stuff...</p><p>well - if they loose cheap shot i think stiffle stun poisons will get helluvalot more populair <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />..(regardless rangers will still be quitte uber in duels - but o well....)</p><p> </p>

[Mentla]

<span><blockquote><hr>Lysanthir Ahmquissar wrote:<p>I can't imagine them removing Cheap Shot as it is really important for any solo player.</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote>Um, are you familiar with SOE?  That should read:   </span><span>I can't imagine them NOT removing Cheap Shot as it is really important for any solo player.</span><div></div>

[Racmo]

<div>There's a revamp coming?</div>

[RedArcher]

<div></div><font color="#ff0000">Nooooo... not Cheap Shot. I wont make it thru a fight without that. hehe  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font>

[Bayler_x]

According to a <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=a13&message.id=8643" target="_blank">dev post</a> in the alchemy forums, they'll be introducing stun/stifle break potions. <div></div>

[Quillian Feetfa]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>littleman17 wrote:<div>You know those hella useful scout class skills that I use almost every fight?</div><div> </div><div>Cheap shot allows me to use my back attacks during solo fights and stun heroic just as they are about to use a skill.</div><div> </div><div>Evasion allows me to switch my HO in solo and has saved my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] many times while out with a tank that can't hold aggro well.</div><div> </div><div>With the upcoming revamp, <font color="#ff0000">all scout skills will be wiped out replaced with new ones? Will we get our own new versions of these two useful skills</font>?</div><hr></blockquote>I must have missed this, but where does it say the Scout skills will be wiped out?

[Marcuzs]

<div>No we don't lose either skill. However they are renamed so the icon on your hotbars after this change goes live will not work till you replace it with the one in you skills book. At least thats the way it is for cheap shot, cant say for evasion since I use Elude.</div>

[JackBurtonBTLC]

I agree, I never saw anything that said, hey btw were changing all the "skill and spell lines" I don't think cheap shot is in any danger of being removed. If it was I would be shocked silly, as my scout type REQUIRES it to solo well.<div></div>

[Cron]

What they are talking about is the fact that all scouts will get distinct skills for their own line starting on the island. What they are asking is, will the scouts all have a stun named more towards their line (maybe working somewhat differently) or are they dropping it for something else, etc.All your spells will be wiped from 1-20 as you won't be a scout/predator anymore. You will start out a Ranger. As for those of us who are high-level, Cheap Shot is the only one that would affect us.

[mengal]

<div></div><p>I had leveled a ranger on the test server to 8, i dont remember having a cheap shot.</p><p> </p><p>but its been a few weeks since i logged into it.</p>

[littleman17]

<div>I meant the evasion line as a whole... I can't tell you how many times this combined with the surveil line has saved my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] in a heroic fight... Some tanks just aren't equiped with the taunting power to hold aggro after I unleash a single triple shot... hell I have pulled aggro with a single flaming shot...</div>

[Jay]

<div></div>LOL, of course they're not going to wipe out whole spell lines, regardless of when they originated. That'd be ridiculous. Cheap Shot will probably just get a different name for the post-20 version, but I've seen nothing that indicates any changes to characters over 20 besides possible cosmetic updates (renamed skills).

[xandez]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>supersupervisor wrote:<div></div><p>ah yeah? well about 2 classes i know can get resistant to stun (i probably know lots not but meh) which are templar and shadowknight - at the time they have been able to activate that we can have cheapshotted em 6 times (0.5s cast i believe). then its triple arrow - sharp shot and baybay matey (if ye have a decent bow - poison - arrows - and spell lvl).</p><p><font color="#ff9900">Try duelling with a bruiser / zerker / assassin... You'll find out that our stun is not that bad <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></p><p>OFC they can pre-activat these skills - without a doubt ey can, i cant say anything to that, but thats 2 classes who can get resistant - 22 to go....(mebbe less if im wrong).</p><p><font color="#ff9900">You might be correct... But cheap shot is not THE stun ya know, nor its THE thingy in PvP. We dont even need to be stunned in order to loose a duel. Just root us and we are dead meat (of course after that you'd have to stay close and finish us before the root wears off).</font></p><p><font color="#ff9900">Besides, IF they dont change stuns/roots/stifles for PvP use... eheh, it will get very boring very soon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font></p><p>(regardless rangers will still be quitte uber in duels - but o well....)</p><p></p><font color="#ff9900">Yeah, we are quite nice, but we are also quite vulnerable compared to some other classes... </font><hr></blockquote><font color="#ff9900">and what comes to the cheap shot itself, like many others above have said, were NOT gonna lose it.++Xan</font><p>Message Edited by xandez on <span class="date_text">02-02-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:56 AM</span></p>