hawk pet?

[Winzen-Stor]

<DIV>Ogaming said at 0 we get to summon a hawk pet never got the skill at 20 only wounding arrow anyone know if it was moved, removeed, or has ot be bought?</DIV>

[Archanis]

<DIV>It has to be bought, and I'm pretty sure it's at level 25.</DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>it's 20</DIV>

[typh]

<DIV>Alright, I'm a 20 ranger and I found this on one of the trainers in Elddar Grove and scribed it.  I can summon the hawk but it will not attack or do anything besides fly around me.  Anyone figured this thing out?</DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>Yep, it's a fluff spell.  It's made for fun.  A ranger with a hawk.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Running barefoot through the woods, bow in hand, chasing a deer.  Leaping over streams and splashing through puddles, hawk flying high overhead, leading you to your quarry.  Amazing!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How could that not be enough for you? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PS: Why is your name purple and your title "Scholar" ?  just curious</DIV><p>Message Edited by blitz on <span class=date_text>11-15-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:30 PM</span>

[Kaga]

<DIV>the hawk sucks, it doesn't do anything, it's JUST fluff. It doesn't attack, it doesn't aid you in any way, it doesn't add to anything except to the ubah factor. It impresses the hell outta n00bs till they find out it dont' do jack</DIV>

[Audio]

<DIV>I don't have a hawk yet although I have read this from someone who had one:  If you are stealthed and have your hawk up and go by a kos mob the hawk will get attacked (it acts as a group member).  I assume it will fight back and in effect tank?  This would in theory allow you to use your specials from behind before you get aggro while soloing.  Also would be able to get some special arrow shots off.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If anyone has experienced this please post.</DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>just because it doesn't DO anything doesn't mean it sucks, vyspy!  Didn't you read my post? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kaga]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> blitz wrote:<BR> <DIV>just because it doesn't DO anything doesn't mean it sucks, vyspy!  Didn't you read my post? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I did, and I stand by the sucking statement.</P> <P> </P>

[pseudocide]

would be nice if they could make it like a tracking buff or archery range maybe, but it doesnt bother me so much, i plan to get it for the cool factor 20% away from lvl 20 right now, back to soloing

[Kaga]

<DIV>The pet should do SOMETHING, I mean give a bonus to something... attack something... I think it's just pointless to have a spell that does nothing but look good. </DIV>

[Azzazal]

<DIV>KK less its changed from beta there is a way to get your Hawk to attack, be warned this only ever worked for me around 30 percent of the times i tried it.</DIV> <DIV>Get your fun pet to follow you towards a mob. Try and position the hawk so that he is between you and the target, pull mob with stalk and hope to golly the mob hits your hawk first! This worked for me in EL and OW at lvl 28 in beta and he actually tanked ok and is a war type ( wild swing casting )! When hawks health got low i used large hitting attack to re take aggro and HO things down. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>( i also remeber going nuts that me pet wasnt working ! I didnt realise it was a fun spell!)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[ST-Rebo]

<DIV>why the hell is there an attack command then?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>mage pets can attack.  it's just the generic attack command.</DIV>

[Jas]

What other pets do we rangers get?

[Kaga]

<DIV>we get a lion eventually</DIV>

[FrozenSol]

does the lion attack or is it for fluff too<img src="http://www.[Removed for Content].com/dragon_molds/sig.jpg" ><p>Message Edited by FrozenSolid on <span class=date_text>11-18-2004</span> <span class=time_text>01:35 AM</span>

[Scribbl]

As much as it would be enjoyable to have a pet that could attack, I must admit it would be rather unbalancing. Soloing would be oh too easy, and rangers would become the flavor of the week and then that's all you'd see.

[tijgert]

<DIV>so u think its unbalanced lol what do u think of the summoners the solo scarecrows on 15!!!!<BR><BR>now thats unbalanced. i was in group to kill them and cant see it how easy the kill it.<BR><BR>root/dot/send pet well the can give the rangers hawk some attack damage.<BR>if i wanne see animals i just go and look in the open fields but dont make thats hawk usless bit lame if u ask me<BR><BR>u pay 13 silver or something for that spell so if it can attack or be fixed dont start crying.<BR><BR><BR>ps: i hope it can attack soon</DIV><p>Message Edited by tijgertje on <span class=date_text>11-19-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:59 AM</span>

[Boudaoim]

<DIV>So, the cost for the Hawk pet is 13 silver? I'm cool with that even if it is only eye candy.</DIV>

[Made]

<DIV>You have to be kidding me.  Your upset because the hawk doesnt do damage?  How much damage did your hawk do in EQ1?  Oh yeah that's right nada we didn't get one.  The fact that I can call a hawk to my side just for eyecandy is off the hook.  How cool is that and seperates us more from the other Scout classes like Rogue, bard.  Unless a rogue gets a pet rat or the bard gets a mime for a pet and I didn't see it. lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you dont like it dont buy it.  And as far as it doing damage who really cares.  If they remove it from the game it won't help ya damage wise will it nah, but then you'll be like I want my little hawk back heh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Verikor</DIV> <DIV>20th Ranger - Guk</DIV> <DIV>Kerran </DIV>

[Azzazal]

<DIV>KK i have posted how to get your hawk to work, Again be warned its a fluff item. At lvl 28 he was lvl 27 and a war type. Now If we had a 27 lvl war pet with our dps at that lvl well as pointed out itd be VERY unbalanced. Try the Dodge in my previous post, it does work. Other than that leave our pet hawk alone! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[PrometheusO]

<DIV>Ok, what's up with the people with purple names, scholar title, and only 4-7 post?  I don't get?  Unless your post count resets to zero once you're given the title.  Some of us are curious.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>scholar has to do with number of reads</DIV> <DIV>apprentice has to do with number of posts</DIV>

[PrometheusO]

<DIV>Ahhhhh! Thanks for the explanation.  </DIV>

[NightFalc]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> blitz wrote:<BR> <DIV>scholar has to do with number of reads</DIV> <DIV>apprentice has to do with number of posts</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> whew thanks! hehe also do you know if there are any others after apprentice?

[bli]

<DIV>I'm sure there are, though I haven't seen them yet.  Guess we'll find out</DIV>

[LadyDarkSi]

<DIV>wow how can some of u say the hawk suck cause it dose nothing or dose no damage.<greedy greedy greedy>first im glad i have or will be getting a hawk at lvl 20 1 of the reason im going ranger.now for those 2 say the hawk dose no damage now tell me what could a hawk do aginist a sword or a person wareing armor.only thing i would love for them 2 do with the hawk if it not in the game alrdy is give me a emote that will let me carry it on my arm or shoulder and another 2 release it to fly now that would reallly put the wow into having a hawk.</DIV>

[LadyDarkSi]

<DIV>btw what is the next pet we get after hawk ???</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Garr]

<DIV>Ok.... You all need to realise, that although the Hawk does not attack at your command, he/she/it Is NOT completely useless.</DIV> <DIV>I reached 20th 2 Days ago and have been exploring Thundering Steppes trying to get my hawk to do something... Anything except "Stay" and "Follow"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Indeed nothing worked....</DIV> <DIV>UNTIL, I stealthed myself up, and pounced on a group of beetles....</DIV> <DIV>Not only did My Hawk Start Tanking for me... but ALL beetles attack my hawk "Gilbanaan" at the time ^__^, and he Did a Tremendous job of Tanking.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You just need to practice, and youll get it perfect.</DIV> <DIV>he tanks for me everytime... and now i can solo most creatures with ease <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the reason they gave us Hawks, is so that we could use our "Flanking" and "Stealth" attacks in a Solo situation... After all, Rangers are at most times Solitary Hunters.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you all, and Please... Dont abuse the Hawk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>-<FONT size=4>Scyrus  (20th Ranger of Antonia Bayle) </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4>"I abide by the code of the Ranger... Swift Justice, Repose in Aid, and the embrace of all things Natural"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff33 size=3>-Scyrus "04"</FONT> </DIV>

[Matathi]

did you just have it out and when you attacked the beetles went after it? just bought my hawk right before i logged tonight

[Garr]

<DIV>Yep... It works about 50% of the time...</DIV> <DIV>Its a nice Random effect <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4>-Scyrus (20th Ranger)</FONT></DIV>

[Loli]

<DIV>About  not getting the pet at level 20....</DIV> <DIV>At the level's you get 2 abilities, you get one when you level up to that lvl, and one halfway to next level just about. This happends to abilities before lvl 20 as well, so I'm not sure why you people thought of that.</DIV> <DIV>BUT, I'm not sure if this is the case with this hawk. I just leveled to 20 myself and only have 1 bubble of XP. But I will try to find out this actually, cause I'm not in a urge to try out the pet. Although how awesome it is, I'll just wait it out. Will try to get XP to see if it is true tonight though <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[FluffyGoat]

I can't believe people are actually defending the hawk bug saying how cool it is to have a hawk that does nothing. You people are freaking crazy. Some of us don't give a frick about fluff, roleplaying, or impressing noobies. I want something that actually does something. I swear there are some people that will defend this game with their life no matter how buggy the issue is.

[Audio]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FluffyGoat wrote:<BR>I can't believe people are actually defending the hawk bug saying how cool it is to have a hawk that does nothing. You people are freaking crazy. Some of us don't give a frick about fluff, roleplaying, or impressing noobies. I want something that actually does something. I swear there are some people that will defend this game with their life no matter how buggy the issue is.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>You don't have to buy the hawk spell.  There I just saved you a few silver and you don't have to complain about it.  If everyone had pets it would be a bit unbalancing and the summoner's would be complaining.</P> <P>SK's get a horse at 20 that looks pretty f-ing cool but doesn't give them a run speed advantage.  If you don't like it/ don't want it, then don't get it.  It is fluff just like the dragons in some people's homes.</P>

[Loli]

<DIV>Aye, would be cool if it had some effect like regen to power, bonus to tracking and/ or pathfinding.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But every class get's a fluff skill like this it seem. Ranger's get this hawk that doesn't seem to do any, Conjuror's get an illusion fire elemental that looks awesome!, Paladin's and SK's I presume get a horse that does nothing much but look cool, some of the shaman and druid sub-classes get an feline form and bear form.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sure all other classes have similar stuff as well, so I can see why our hawk might do nothing.</DIV>

[Ra]

<P>I think there should be a special ability that Rangers get at some point where the hawk can be used to distract, in the same fashion as Cheap Shot. Give it a recast timer of like 600 seconds or something.   Or a Tracking/Threat level buff or something.</P> <P>Meh, I am happy to have my hawk. I am the first Ranger on Everfrost to have it ^^ I got so many tells from people as I was running through Qeynos. And if you don't like the hawk, don't buy it. Real simple.</P><p>Message Edited by Ravi on <span class=date_text>11-22-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:13 AM</span>

[WiNgMaN]

<DIV>I think they should turn us into beastlords, and have us be able to heal our pets, then lower our melee damage or something =)  That would be cooler. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The pet in my opinion WAS a waste of money, it isnt that hard to get 15 silver, but its something id want to spend on a new weapon or something.  </DIV> <DIV>It is a kickass fluff though, I want to get a horse, so I could have a horse AND the hawk..and they need to make him fly a little higher =P  He is like eating the ground basically...doesnt look good with me as a Kerran =P  </DIV> <DIV>I use him to take aggro when my group gets in trouble...hes like on autofollow for you, so he is always behind you =D  so you can u se him as a decoy then, never tried useing the sneak thing, it worked once, but then i got aggro back by all my kick-**ZOMG** damage attacks =D</DIV>

[ArgonuiTauron]

<DIV>It was ~15s and not worth it.  I think it looks stupid the way it follows you around.  I was hoping for something better, but oh well. </DIV>

[Ju]

<P><FONT color=#ffcc00 size=7>THE HALK DOSENT SUCK</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=7></FONT> </P> <P><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3>You can give him the name of ANY NPC in your zone and he will take u there... its for finding targets and NPCs... </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3></FONT> </P> <P><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3>i can need t find billy bob in antonica , i say billy bob the bird goes to billy bob no matter how far...</FONT></P>

[Bli]

<DIV>"<FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3>You can give him the name of ANY NPC in your zone and he will take u there... its for finding targets and NPCs... "</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3>how exactly do you give your pet the name of an npc to track?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3>I played with this for a while and could not figure it out.  I noticed there was a "who" command for the pet, and figured out the /pet was the command promt in text to get the pet to follow stay and so on, but could not for the life of me get him to track anyone or anything.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffcc99 size=3>so let us in on your secret..how did you get him to track?</FONT></DIV>

[Jowita]

<DIV>Yeah, I'd also like to know the answer to that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Flid</DIV>

[Squidwalk]

<DIV>/bump</DIV> <DIV>How do you get it to do that. Cause I"m ok with it not doing much, as long as I still get some other actualy useful ability at that level. Which we do. But to have to pay so much for it, when if it is just candy? lame. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But being able to lead you to any mob/npc in the zone would be useful, cool, and not unbalancing at all. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>you don't _have_ to pay that much for candy.  To me, the candy is delicious, and totally worth it.  I hope you're not sweating 14 silver by level 20 <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, I LOVE your sig.  It's awesome.</DIV>

[Zephy]

<DIV>I know what you mean, the hawk pet, in my mind, should at least give a bonus, like tracking would be roleplay enough.  I agree that it would overpower the ranger to let it attack, as we are not a pet class.  However... if we DID get a lion pet someday... I would disagree, as having a lion just stand there watching its master fight and perhaps die would be way uncool.  Lions like to fight.  O.o</DIV>

[bli]

<DIV>I have to agree with Zeph -- low end candy is awesome, but a lifeless lion would be kind of a bummer.</DIV>

[A]

<DIV>The hawk pet will also auto attack mobs that cast an AE spell on you or your group.  Cant seem to tell what kinda damage it does but it will attack under that circumstance as well</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tyler 21 Ranger of Unrest</DIV>

[toastedwy]

<DIV>hey where the guy go screaming that the hawk tracks down Npc's & such ??? =}</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i've looked at the commands on the pet and i think that person is on CRACK because it does no such thing lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i've stealthed up, left the bird in the middle of a huge spawn of attacking creatures and they just laugh at it.. it won't zone with me, the griffs make u ditch it (it flys, why can't it tag along ??) i see mages using thier pets to tank for em, why can't our so called "hunting hawk" ?? i don't care if it does any damage at all, but to have it keep something busy while i practice with my bow would be kinda cool.. it beats running around risking running into more spawn !! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>it would atleast be also cool if we could name our pet rather than it getting a new name everytime.. and if it isn't going to hunt anything, why is it called a hunting hawk ?? thats misleading !!! lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so far the only use i have found for the pet, is to use it as a marker for where i am while i'm hiding and afk waitin on peeps to get to me.. i just tell em to look for my fluffy pet lol i'll brb !!</DIV>

[MegaB]

<DIV>I have noticed that the hawk seems to help you out when you /call for help and are running away.</DIV>

[Shadebring]

<DIV>Assassins get a pet rat at level 20 which is pretty much the same as the Rangers Hawk, again in some circumstances it will tank for you, this is normally when in stealth mode and near aggro creatures though.</DIV>

[Philo Bed]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Judo wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#ffcc00 size=7>THE <FONT color=#ffcc00>HALK </FONT>DOSENT SUCK</FONT></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>QFE..  Eye candy or no, it sounds neat..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Question.. Can it die?</DIV><p>Message Edited by Philo Beddo on <span class=date_text>11-30-2004</span> <span class=time_text>11:09 AM</span>

[Sotaudi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FluffyGoat wrote:<BR>I can't believe people are actually defending the hawk bug saying how cool it is to have a hawk that does nothing. You people are freaking crazy. Some of us don't give a frick about fluff, roleplaying, or impressing noobies. I want something that actually does something. I swear there are some people that will defend this game with their life no matter how buggy the issue is.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1)  You are laboring under the false impression that the fact that the hawk does not attack is a bug.  What evidence do you have for that?  What in the class description suggests that we are a "Creature Handler"?  What in our class description suggests that we are a summoner?  It describes us as being stealthy and able to do a lot of opportunistic damage, but nowhere does it even suggest that we are able to call the creatures of the field to our aid.  Is it because the pet interface has attack and guard commands that do not work?  That is just an indication that they chose not to create a separate interface for us or other classes that have "companion" animals and just reused the interface from the classes that can command their pet to attack.  So they got lazy and did not grey out the unused buttons and chose instead to have it say, "I cannot do that."  That does not mean it is a bug.  In fact, it is not a bug; it is by design.  Therefore, your characterization of being crazy for "defending the hawk bug" is incorrect.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2)  Check the Prima guide.  You will find that not only we, but several classes get creatures that have no purpose other than the entertainment value.  In fact, you will find that the hawk spell in that guide has an "(E)" next to it indicating that it is an entertainment spell, not a combat art.  The fact that "Some of us don't give a frick about fluff" and that you "want something that actually does something" is, frankly, irrelative.  Is it your opinion that if you do not want it that no one else should get to have it either?  They are not going to unbalance the profession by giving us a pet that can be commanded to fight for us or even tank for us.  Get over the idea that it ever will.  Therefore, if you do not want the fluff, then do not buy it.  It is not like they are taking away a skill to give us that.  It is just there for the entertainment.  But this is an MMORPG, and the RPG stands for "Role Playing Game."  If you do not wish to roleplay, then do not.  But do not put down those who do wish to do so simply because it does not fit your play style.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3)  Even if it is there only for the entertainment value, the hawk can be useful.  As has been mentioned elsewhere, the hawk can take the aggro.  Last night, I was out with a couple of friends, and I had my hawk out.  While in battle with our target, a spawn of 5 more enemies decided to join in unexpectedly.  We retreated.  The target we were fighting followed one of my companions, the five followed me.  I had taken quite a beating before breaking, so I was running for my life.  Eventually, I noticed that they were no longer following me but were attacking my hawk.  They killed him and then left me alone.  After I could call him again, I did, and another incident happened.  I had just finished a hard battle, and while I was recovering, a one of those granitescale lizards (level 20) came wandering over the hill and jumped me.  I had to run again.  Eventually, the lizard turned on my hawk which, since I had not engaged the lizard yet, allowed me to recoup enough health and power to go back and kill the beast.  Both my hawk and I survived this and I got credit for the kill.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So, they are intended to be fluff.  It is okay that they are fluff even if they do not do anything.  Not every aspect of the game has to make you more ubber.  However, they can be helpful at times, as indicated above and as has been mentioned in other posts.  Therefore, stop the criticism, please.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>* Note *  Some of us have noted that the hawk can end up engaged in battle under certain circumstances.  Obviously, people will figure out ways to "arrange" these circumstances on a regular basis.  Since the hawk is intended as a companion, if people start developing effective techniques to get the hawk to tank for you and start posting those and tanking hawks become common place, you can bet that SOE will take steps to nerf it so that MoBs will <EM>never</EM> pull the aggro.  Therefore, if you want the hawk to be able to save your hide from time to time, I would suggest that you not advertize wasy to turn this pet into what would effectively be a "commandable" creature.</DIV>

[Philo Bed]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sotaudi wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> Eventually, I noticed that they were no longer following me but were attacking my hawk.  They <STRONG>killed him </STRONG>and then left me alone.  After I could <STRONG>call him again</STRONG>, I did, and another incident happened.  I had just finished a hard battle, and while I was recovering, a one of those granitescale lizards (level 20) came wandering over the hill and jumped me.  I had to run again.  Eventually, the lizard turned on my hawk which, since I had not engaged the lizard yet, allowed me to recoup enough health and power to go back and kill the beast.  Both my hawk and I survived this and I got credit for the kill.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Answered my question.  Thanks.<BR>

[Darkfeather_]

<DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>I can't believe people are actually defending the hawk bug saying how cool it is to have a hawk that does nothing. You people are freaking crazy. Some of us don't give a frick about fluff, roleplaying, or impressing noobies. I want something that actually does something. I swear there are some people that will defend this game with their life no matter how buggy the issue is.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P> </P> <P>And some people will slam this game with their last breath...  If they like it, then they like it.  Take a Midol Fluffygoat.</P>

[MeleeMadne]

<DIV>Exactly!!</DIV>

[Ren]

He MUST be an ex-FFXI player, no offense to the good ones out there..

[PrometheusO]

<DIV>Well, I have read all the post and have not found any mention of the command menu that appears when you summon the hawk.  I get this menu all the time.  It's comprised of six small icons much like the ones we have on our hot key bars but smaller.  If i remember correctly, they are:  Stay, Follow me, Guard this place (something like that), Guard Me, Attack, and Dismiss.  The only thing is if you click on Attack or Guard, the hawk replies: "Sorry master, i can't do that." </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems to me that these other commands may become available as you and your hawk level up.  This command menu, that contains the six icons, are not there for fluff, but for a future purpose perhaps.  It seems like the only thing that makes sense. As it was said before by others, the hawk does protect you when you're on the run.  </DIV>

[Arbit]

<DIV>Just wondering, would anyone be willing to post a pic of this pet?  Have yet to see one in game and am wondering how it looks...</DIV>

[Arba]

<DIV>Is this Hawk pet similar to the Gee WIz no use Lv 20 spells I have heard many classes get? Do you get a Pet Control panel for it? </DIV>

[Tom]

<DIV>You do get a pet control panel for it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes it is just a flavor spell, basically to make you ranger look a bit cooler.  I for one am happy with it. It would be really unfair to get a pet that could attack.  Very cool, but very unfair.</DIV>

[Elquinjena]

<DIV>The hawk does attack in battle but we can not command it to do so.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems that AE from mobs do trigger this....or I belive but have no proof yet that large group heals also trigger him to fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the hawk takes buffs like a group member...I can see the spell wrap around him...so my theory is this..He has to get on the hate list of the mob........some how........ I have tried pounce and that did not work.......there does not seem to be much ryme or reason as to when he will come to our aid.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He has gave his life for me a couple times now....I have seen him battle quite a few times...and during those times I was in a group.......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do not know if him not attacking on comand is a bug or not...just because the buttons are there does not mean they have a use. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>every ranger who has a hawk should keep him up offten and start watching what is going on when he does attack.  I have yet to get him to attack something when I have been alone...running has not done it, breaking encounter has not done it...pounce has not done it... it has been in group settings where he has come into the battle only.  I have yet to try beetles in TS like that one poster. I think we should all try out and record when he comes to our aid. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Ragepowers]

<DIV>Last night while finishing up some quests in antonica I took on a pack of 6 wolves to knock out a quest. After polishing off the fifth one I found my Hawk tankin one of the wolves and ownin him. So I used this opportunity to go in to Hunt and Shadowblade him to death. This was my first experience since I had just bought him but he does fight.</DIV>

[Agent_]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Darkfeather_II wrote:<BR> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>I can't believe people are actually defending the hawk bug saying how cool it is to have a hawk that does nothing. You people are freaking crazy. Some of us don't give a frick about fluff, roleplaying, or impressing noobies. I want something that actually does something. I swear there are some people that will defend this game with their life no matter how buggy the issue is.</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P> </P> <P>And some people will slam this game with their last breath...  If they like it, then they like it.  Take a Midol Fluffygoat.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> You have the funniest sig I have seen to date. :smileyvery-happy:

[Darkfeather_]

<DIV>Thanks!  =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I made the graphic, but one of our officers (Draxxi) gets credit for the idea.  It's a bunch of old timers poking fun at ourselves.</DIV>

[Milig]

<DIV>For the one who requested:</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img62.exs.cx/img62/2198/eq20000222pf.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>fyi, name changes randomly per spawn </DIV>

[Sapperlight]

<DIV>For those looking to buy the spell for the hawk, the trainer that sell it is not one of the three in the circle in Elddar Grove.  He is actually in North Qeynos near the Elddar Grove exit.  Since there is contrary information on these boards and I actually bought it last night, I thought you might like to know.</DIV>

[Sanji]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Elquinjena wrote:<BR> <DIV>every ranger who has a hawk should keep him up offten and start watching what is going on when he does attack.  I have yet to get him to attack something when I have been alone...running has not done it, breaking encounter has not done it...pounce has not done it... it has been in group settings where he has come into the battle only.  I have yet to try beetles in TS like that one poster. I think we should all try out and record when he comes to our aid. </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ffff99>i was a bit [Removed for Content] when i found out our hawk 'does nothing' but i kept him out anyway and was happily surprised when he saved my life 3 times yesterday!</FONT><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ccff>first time:  running from a group of gnolls i hit 'hunt', they ran right past me, my hawk ran in front of me, and they started fighting my hawk as i slipped away</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ccff>second time:  running from a hawk in TS...halfway back to the antonica gate i noticed that my hawk's life bar was going down.  i turned around to see him fighting the other hawk</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ccff>third time:  running from a group of skeletons i noticed my hawk's life bar again, turned around to see him fighting the group of skele's </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff99>now exactly what triggered these events i cannot say...when i run i usually have pathfinding already on and also hit 'sprint' so i get distance on the mob pretty quick...maybe i pull out of it's range of hate but my hawk is still in it's range and then becomes it's focus</FONT></DIV>

[Scribbl]

<blockquote><hr>Sapperlight wrote:<DIV>the trainer that sell it is not one of the three in the circle in Elddar Grove. He is actually in North Qeynos near the Elddar Grove exit. Since there is contrary information on these boards and I actually bought it last night, I thought you might like to know.</DIV><hr></blockquote>Well I did indeed purchase it from the trainer in Eldarr Grove.

[Milig]

<DIV>I too bought my hawk from the froglock trainer in Eldar wood, as well as wounding arrow and makeshift arrow app. ii's.</DIV>

[Erethiz]

<blockquote><hr>blitz wrote:<DIV>Yep, it's a fluff spell. It's made for fun. A ranger with a hawk. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Running barefoot through the woods, bow in hand, chasing a deer. Leaping over streams and splashing through puddles, hawk flying high overhead, leading you to your quarry. Amazing!</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>How could that not be enough for you? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>PS: Why is your name purple and your title "Scholar" ? just curious</DIV><p>Message Edited by blitz on <span class=date_text>11-15-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:30 PM</span><hr></blockquote>Some forum titles are based on posting, others are based on reading posts. You can jump from one kind to the other depending on your forum habits. There awas a wonderful guide to the pre-requisites for every title before the forums were reset just before launch. The "Scholar" title means he has read a large number of posts, but not actually posted very much.

[bli]

<DIV>wow, good reply.  thanks for taking the time!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I actually figured it out shortly after posting that, but thank you <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Sapperlight]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Miligne wrote:<BR> <DIV>I too bought my hawk from the froglock trainer in Eldar wood, as well as wounding arrow and makeshift arrow app. ii's.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>It's odd, because the three trainers there had only one spell I could use at level 20, and it was the wounding arrow app II.  The trainer in NQ had the hawk spell but nothing else I could use.  I'm on Najena, so perhaps it's a server glitch.  </P> <P>At any rate, if the three trainers in Elddar don't have the spell, then you might be able to find it from the one in North Qeynos.</P>

[Hn]

<DIV><FONT size=2>Is this a Ranger only thing or do Assassins get something too? Do the evil boyz from Freeport get a bat or something? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Hn]

<DIV><FONT size=2>Never Mind I found the post that says we get a rat. ...that will work ) </FONT></DIV>

[Moussacoy]

<DIV>I understand that the Guardian Class gets a pet too... a fluffy bunny.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But not any ol bunny... they get the BUNNY OF JUSTICE!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(but in all reality, it's just as much a useless poo-maker as the Ranger's hawk)</DIV>