The many faces and depictions of the Gods. (IMAGE HEAVY!)

[Cusashorn]

<DIV><A href="http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?setview=features&loadFeature=843&gameID=2&bhcp=1" target=_blank>Thanks to the article, new concept arts of the</A> <A href="http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/845/gameID/2" target=_blank>8 gods in EQ2 are being revealed.</A> I decided to go through and show the various variations of how the gods have been depicted throughout the games.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many of you will be quite surprised with what various appearances Innoruuk has gone through....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Innoruuk, Prince of Hate. Creator of the Dark Elves and Luggalds of EQlive. Even though the lore's been debunked, the evidence carried itself well into EQlive to prove that the Trolls were created as a joint effort between Cazic Thule and Innoruuk, as Inny shaped them in his image.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EQlive concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1Inny.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In-Game:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQInnoruuk.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Champions of Norrath:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTAInny.jpg"></DIV> <P>(How awesome is that? totally bad-*** and voiced by recently deceased actor Tony Jay. We'll never forget his greatness.)</P> <P> </P> <P>And now, Innoruuk in EQ2. Please take important notice that he is a Troll....</P> <P><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Inny.jpg"></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>09-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:24 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Rallos Zek, the God of War. Creator of the Ogres, Giants, Orcs, and Goblins. In my oppinion one of the coolest looking gods in the entire series. He wasn't much of a looker in the concept art, but he evolved bigtime.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EQlive Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1Rallos.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In game:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQRallos.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He's huge.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Champions of Norrath:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTARallos.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Spikey, and STILL HUGE!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And now, Everquest 2's Rallos Zek:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Rallos.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For some reason he reminds me of Megatron. :p Or maybe the Megadeus in Big-O.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:41 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Cazic Thule, Lord of Fear. Creator of the Iksar, Trolls, Shissar, and all other races Reptillian. The only god who's appearance has stayed pretty much the same throughout the series' history.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EQlive Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1Cazic.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In Game:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQcazic_thule.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(Skeleton between his legs for size comparison)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Champions of Norrath:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTACazic.jpg"><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTAcazic2.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(yeah, they're bad quality. Thats what you get from taking a picture directly at the TV. He's still huge btw.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Cazic.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He actually looks like he has a mouth in this picture. :/</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:45 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Brell Serilis, God of the Underground, Smithing, and Beer. Brell is tied with Rallos Zek for the most amount of races they've created and put onto Norrath. He created the Dwarves, Gnomes, Ratonga, and Gnolls.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/BrellEQ1.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Brell.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He hasn't changed too much.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Brell Serilis isn't found in Eqlive, so these two pictures are all we have to go by. Kind of a shame too.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:40 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Quellious, God of Peace and Tranquility. Her personal philosophies seem to be that the greatest actions are achieved through inaction. She is not seen in EQlive because the Plane of Tranquility itself was the very physical envisioning of her mind. She chose to stay out of the affairs of the mortals with the planes, and it was her idea for the gods to silence themselves up from the mortals so they would have time to recover in EQ2.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/QuelliousEQ1.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EverQuest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Quellious.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nice!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a devout Human Monk ever since I first started playing Everquest, I have always been faithful to Quellious, and I always will.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:25 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Tunare, Queen of Nature. Creator of the Wood Elves, High Elves, the Fae, and various other creatures of nature.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1Tunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In Game:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQtunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A little basic with the model detail. Quite evident that she is a high elf, but the designers arn't to blame for the technical limitations.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest Online Adventures:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQOATunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wow. Did they intentionally design her model to draw attention to her chest? Either way, she looks nice.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Tunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pretty. At least it doesn't draw attention to her breasts like the EQOA version does.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:32 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Mithanial Marr, God of Valor, Honor, and That-Which-Is-Just-Morally-Right. Creator of the Barbarians, Humans, and NUMEROUS PALADINS worldwide.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1MithMarr.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(I HAVE THE POWWWWEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR!)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In Game:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQLord_Mithaniel_marr.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The picture speaks for itself, folks. The God of Valor is MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE! OH YEAAAAH!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Champions of Norrath:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTAMith.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He's normal human sized in this game, but his voice still speaks strong and noble.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest 2 Mithanial Marr:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Mith.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Could be Human, could be Barbarian... either way, that's actually pretty dang handsome, in my oppinion.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:28 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Solusek Ro, the Burning Prince. God of the Sun (Officially) and Ambition (Unofficially). Instead of contributing to Norrath by creating his own race, he decided to change the face of Antonica and ruin the lives of the elves instead.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1SolRo.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In Game before Planes of Power:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQsolusek_puppet.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This may just be a puppet from the Plane of Mischief back during Velious, but I kid you not, I saw him for real during a GM Event, and yes, he did look that horrible. Truely, the laughing stock of the gods when it came to fashion sense.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Planes of Power:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQsolusek_ro.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Two-Tone. Awesome. Guess he's a Star Trek fan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Sol.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ooooh. Still Two-Tone, but he's deffinitly improved his fashion sense.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:26 PM</span>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div><div>Brell Serilis, God of the Underground, Smithing, and Beer. Brell is tied with Rallos Zek for the most amount of races they've created and put onto Norrath. He created the Dwarves, Gnomes, Ratonga, and Gnolls.</div><hr></blockquote>I beleive Brell also created the Kobolds (although they now worship Rallos.)From the art we've seen so far, what strikes me as interesting is that the devs seem to be trying to make the gods look like their worshipers.Inny has always looked kinda like a troll, but it's even more apparent now.Brell looks just like a beardless dwarf now, where before he looked liked some sort of chubby imp or goblinRallos now has the phsyique of an ogre, instead of just being a generic humaniodCazic's the one that really surpised me.  In a strange way, he kinda reminds me of an Alliz Ew lizardman with the shape his head has now</div>

[BrizaOr]

<P>Looking forward to see the next 4 gods and how they have changed, but I have to admit I'm bit puzzled about some of the changes. Such as the Innoruuk looking just like a troll, somehow the EQlive version looked more of a monster type creature (although there is definately some difference on the concept vs how it was ingame) and well the Champions version did look more like a humanoid shape (and much more evil, which is why i prefer that version i guess). <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Rallos hasn't really changed that much, although definately I think he looks more like a huge armored ogre or a giant now. Cazic seems to have changed to more of a lizardman/iksar type of creature although with no tail :smileytongue: . Even the lower arms look as if they have been cut-off or something. I think in Cazic's case the I did prefer the deformed four armed oddity.</P> <P>But I have to agree with the above post, first thing that came to my mind after checking the images is that all of the concepts really look much more like they have been shaped to remind some particular type of their followers, or creations.</P>

[LordBanxter]

Rallos Zek looks more to me like a Sentinel from X-Men on steroids, and Cazic-Thule reminds me of Mr. Hyde in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie...  but that's just my opinion..  Also, Mithaniel Marr bears a strong resemblance to Super Shredder from the 2nd TMNT movie...<p>Message Edited by LordBanxter on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:43 AM</span>

[Hannalynn]

<div></div>I am highly disturbed by the new trollish look of Innoruuk <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and it makes me very sad. I hope that concept art is just a preliminary and when they make him he will revert back to his blue demon form.

[Uanelven]

That can't be Inny.    Looks just like a standard eq1 troll (luclin models) to me.  <span>:smileyindifferent:</span><div></div>

[Rezikai]

<P>Eh i do agree with Cusa the Inny from champions of Norrath is my personal favorite as well</P> <P>Cusa how about posting some full body shots of Inny from CoN... </P> <P>Oh.. and as for the new one being a troll.. eh.. maybe its some weird story they are starting up with it.. we'll have to see.</P> <P>i found an older pic of Tunare.. circa 2002-2003 (eqoa version)</P><p>Message Edited by Porkchop133 on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:18 PM</span>

[EQ2Playa432]

Something important I thought I would mention.<blockquote><hr>Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:<div></div>Those concepts aren't <em>exactly </em>the gods, its intentional that they look different (but similar) than they did in EQ Live...<hr></blockquote><div></div>

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>EQ2Playa432 wrote:Something important I thought I would mention.<blockquote><hr>Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:<div></div>Those concepts aren't <em>exactly </em>the gods, its intentional that they look different (but similar) than they did in EQ Live...<hr></blockquote><div></div><hr></blockquote>Very interesting.....</div>

[Jaale]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> EQ2Playa432 wrote:<BR>Something important I thought I would mention.<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:<BR> Those concepts aren't <EM>exactly </EM>the gods, its intentional that they look different (but similar) than they did in EQ Live... <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yes was just reading that myself..</P> <P>Was thinking that these maybe the Avatars rather than the gods... we will know if Miss Tranquility 2006 is a man who used to be an old Monk. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>The discrption of what comes to the Ogres just before the 2nd war, after they first green myst is lifted, sounds more like what we see for Zek's avatar of war than it does for Zek himself, similar but not the same, so my personal thinking is they are the avatars of the gods not the god's themselfs, thats why they look different.<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Jaale on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:26 PM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Porkchop133 wrote:<BR> <P>Cusa how about posting some full body shots of Inny from CoN...<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Don't worry, I intend on updating it with a more full-body shot when I get the chance.</P> <P>The problem is that I can't find any images of him anywhere on the Internet, so that just leaves me with using my digital camera and taking pictures of the TV screen itself like I did with Rallos Zek, Cazic Thule, and Mithanial Marr there.</P> <P>I'll have to play through the Evil storyline of Return to Arms to get that, but I will get it.</P>

[Renita_Serafim]

<DIV>The <A href="http://returntoarms.station.sony.com/images/wallpaper/returntoarms_1600.jpg" target=_blank>Champions of Norrath Innoruuk</A>, from one of the Champions: Return to Arms wallpapers.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:43 AM</span>

[Koehianna]

Where'd you get the EQ2 concept art for the gods?<div></div>

[Hannalynn]

<div><blockquote><hr>Astralmage wrote:<div></div> <div>The <a href="http://returntoarms.station.sony.com/images/wallpaper/returntoarms_1600.jpg" target="_blank">Champions of Norrath Innoruuk</a>, from one of the Champions: Return to Arms wallpapers.</div><p>Message Edited by Astralmage on <span class="date_text">08-31-2006</span> <span class="time_text">10:43 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>truely that is an awesome picture of innoruuk, though i still prefer his eq1 aspect, the con one does lookr ather menacing. thanks for sharing that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Fixed the picture of Innoruuk from CoN. Thanks Astral. It beats taking a picture of my TV.</DIV>

[Rezikai]

<P>Ah .. here Tunare is.. a bit more skin in her younger days around Norrath it seems...</P> <P>(EQoA version)</P> <P><IMG src="http://www.cyclopsx.com/Archives/EQOA/UniqueNPCs/Tunare.jpg"></P><p>Message Edited by Porkchop133 on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:21 PM</span>

[BrizaOr]

Looks like part 2 of the article has been posted on MMORPG.com... Not much of surprises on the 4 remaining ones there, all of them just seems to look more like some particular race but still matched their EQlive concept/ingame version pretty much.

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BrizaOrin wrote:<BR> Looks like part 2 of the article has been posted on MMORPG.com... Not much of surprises on the 4 remaining ones there, all of them just seems to look more like some particular race but still matched their EQlive concept/ingame version pretty much.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Way ahead of you. Already added them in.</P> <P>These 4 look much nicer than the first 4.</P>

[BrizaOr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <P><BR>Way ahead of you. Already added them in.</P> <P>These 4 look much nicer than the first 4.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hehe, so I noticed - looks like my browser loaded up old stuff from cache which is why i wondered why even the updated Inny picture didn't show up. Anyhow, I wonder what that comment from Lyndro meant about them not<EM> exactly</EM> being the gods... Maybe it meant they appear in different forms from their own to mortals, or maybe they are the avatars although which would be bit silly considering what the exclusive story was all about.</P> <P>Oh well, hopefully more about that in EoF. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[kajirala]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Tunare, Queen of Nature. Creator of the Wood Elves, High Elves, the Fae, and various other creatures of nature.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1Tunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In Game:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQtunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A little basic with the model detail. Quite evident that she is a high elf, but the designers arn't to blame for the technical limitations.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest Online Adventures:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQOATunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wow. Did they intentionally design her model to draw attention to her chest? Either way, she looks nice.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Tunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pretty. At least it doesn't draw attention to her breasts like the EQOA version does.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-31-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:32 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>boooooooooooooooyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Tunare is AWSOME all the way!!!!

[Rezikai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kajirala wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Tunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pretty. At least it doesn't draw attention to her breasts like the EQOA version does.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-31-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:32 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>boooooooooooooooyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Tunare is AWSOME all the way!!!!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>and as soon as she's released in-game all the girls are going to complain until they get a version of that dress :smileytongue:</P> <P>::runs and hides::<BR></P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Indeed, that concept art isn't much more than a green version of the blue formal dress you buy from the city merchants.</DIV>

[Renita_Serafim]

Quellious' character artwork is teh kewlness.

[Hannalynn]

<div><blockquote><hr></blockquote>Wow I am loving Sro, Tunare, and Quellious' new designs... beautifully done!</div>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr><div> </div><div><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Sol.jpg"></div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>I <i>want </i>this robe <span>:smileyhappy:</span></div>

[kajirala]

<P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P><IMG src="http://images.mmorpg.com/features/845/images/845_5.jpg" border=0></P> <P>acutually its a mix between the bottom of the guild lvl 25 formal dress and the top of the guild lvl 30 formal dress</P><p>Message Edited by kajirala on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:24 PM</span>

[Fayline Fyrecat]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Quellious.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>ADORABLE!<BR>

[Renita_Serafim]

I want to include Quellious in my fanfictions now, but I have a policy against not using lore characters in my stories outside of adaptations of in-game cutscenes.

[Methriln]

hmm any 1 else getting a blank page with a bunch of weird symbols when they click the link?

[kajirala]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fayline Fyrecat wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Quellious.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>ADORABLE!<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>she is cute my two top favs are tunare then quellious the comes solusek ro but still SHE IS ADORABLE<BR>

[FreaklyCreak]

<P>Awesome pictures cussa =)</P> <P> </P>

[nikitta28]

Meh these things are sooo humaniod and are models that are already in the game.I wanted to see something different like in eqlive.<div></div>

[Lyriel]

<P>The concept art for Mithaniel Marr does rather look like Bayden in the movie that runs at the start up of the game... Hunky! And I am also glad Tunare's not all over-exposed in this concept art. But Quellious is my favorite; I'll have to figure out which of my alts can worship her awesome adorability <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</P> <P>Lyriel<BR>Faithful High Elven follower of Tunare</P>

[Silver_Feather]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> nikitta28 wrote:<BR>Meh these things are sooo humaniod and are models that are already in the game.<BR><BR><BR>I wanted to see something different like in eqlive.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT color=#ff0033>I agree! they all look too human.They`re GODS! they should look unique! They should glow with awsomeness that blinds the eyes of newbs! Their look should scream,"WORSPIP ME! I`M UBER!" Ok,Cazi and Zek know how ta do it I think..but the others don`t look very origial..I`m a ratonga and even I gotta say Brell looks like the idiot at the bar who got so drunk he said ,'what the hell!",tossed out the lapshade,and used the chandelier (spelling?).</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0033>  Sol looked awsome in that pic with the waist-high outfit and fire swords..now he`s...a edudite with a firey head...he burn all his hair off on purpose?</FONT></P>

[kajirala]

but at least tunare doesnt look like a high elf like in EQL<p>Message Edited by kajirala on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:38 PM</span>

[nikitta28]

Most of the PoP models look way cooler then the concept art for eq2 gods. Oh well, maybe SOE will surprise me, but after playing the game for 2 years i doubt it!<div></div>

[kajirala]

they impress me every expansion

[RaphaNissi]

Let's not forgot the devs said these aren't "exactly" the gods....<div></div>

[oder]

        Does innorruuk from champions of norrath look like mum-rah, from the thundercats, or is it just me?<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote:<BR>Let's not forgot the devs said these aren't "exactly" the gods....<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Gods show themselves however they WANT US to see them.</P> <P> </P> <P>That said, they choose to take on human appearances because Humans are the superior race anyway. >_></P>

[firemonkey5]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> oderus wrote:<BR>        Does innorruuk from champions of norrath look like mum-rah, from the thundercats, or is it just me?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I was thinking that too. He's always had a more green face and long arms but in Champions of Norrath he is almost exactly like mumrah.

[Vollux]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> oderus wrote:<BR>      Does innorruuk from champions of norrath look like mum-rah, from the thundercats, or is it just me?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR>Ewww yeah he does.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not impressed with the EQ2 Troll version of Inny either though.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The best drawing I've ever come across of him was outside of the game over on da'G-ELLO's web comic <A href="http://reflex.corey-art.com/index.php?strip_id=13#strip" target=_blank>Questing Norrath: Reflex</A> . </DIV>

[Talz]

I liked the surreal look of the gods in EQ1 better. <span>:smileysad:</span><div></div>

[Soldross]

<div><blockquote><hr>Talzar wrote:I liked the surreal look of the gods in EQ1 better. <span>:smileysad:</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>I think they should be rendered in ASCII.</div>

[Winter]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fayline Fyrecat wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Quellious.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>ADORABLE!<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0099 size=3>Oh my GOSH! She TOTALLY has to be my goddess, she's too cute - and I love being little girly. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT>

[Soldross]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div>Cazic Thule, Lord of Fear. Creator of the Iksar, Trolls, Shissar, and all other races Reptillian. The only god who's appearance has stayed pretty much the same throughout the series' history.</div> <div> </div> <div>EQlive Concept:</div> <div> </div> <div><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ1Cazic.jpg"></div> <div> </div> <div>In Game:</div> <div> </div> <div><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQcazic_thule.jpg"></div> <div> </div> <div>(Skeleton between his legs for size comparison)</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Champions of Norrath:</div> <div> </div> <div><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTACazic.jpg"><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/RTAcazic2.jpg"></div> <div> </div> <div>(yeah, they're bad quality. Thats what you get from taking a picture directly at the TV. He's still huge btw.)</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>And Everquest 2:</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Cazic.jpg"></div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>He actually looks like he has a mouth in this picture. :/</div><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class="date_text">08-31-2006</span> <span class="time_text">01:45 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Ummm, going from the old form to the new form, how did Cazic-Thule lose two of his arms? They look torn off. </div>

[quamdar]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <div></div>And now, Innoruuk in EQ2. Please take important notice that he is a Troll.... <p><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Inny.jpg"></p> <p></p><hr>i dunno why but seems to me he is more goblin like than troll like.  i do agree that the one from champions of norrath looked much cooler though.  i am looking forward to seeing what they all look like in game though cause i am sure the gods like rallos zek, mithaniel marr, and probably tunare too will have some bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] looking weapons.</blockquote></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Soldross wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ummm, going from the old form to the new form, how did Cazic-Thule lose two of his arms? They look torn off. <BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>He didn't lose them. The picture doesn't really show them well. His smaller arms are tucked up against his stomach. You can clearly see the individual digits of the fingers on the right hand.

[IrishWonder]

<DIV>The concept art is nice n' all... but are we going to SEE the Gods in Echoes of Faydwer? I was under the assumption that their influence was going to return, but we probably wouldn't visually see them for another expansion or two... /shrug</DIV>

[Zarafein]

<P>Very sad, they destroyed all old connections!</P> <P>example quellious:</P> <P>old:</P> <P></P> <HR> <P><FONT color=#ffffff>This peaceful child-goddess is allied with Rodcet Nife and Erollisi Marr, and an enemy to Rallos Zek and Innoruuk.</FONT></P> <P></P> <HR> <P>new:</P> <P></P> <HR> <P>Quellious is allied with Tunare and Mithaniel Marr, and is the enemy of Innoruuk, Cazic-Thule, and Rallos Zek.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P> </P> <P>or Mithaniel Marr</P> <P>old:</P> <P></P> <HR> <P><FONT color=#ffffff>Mithaniel Marr, who owes his existence to Tarew Marr, leader of the Triumvirate of Water, is allied with Erollisi Marr and Karana. He counts Innoruuk, Cazic-Thule, and Bertoxxulous among his enemies. He has a friendly rivalry with Solusek Ro.</FONT></P> <P></P> <HR> <P>new:</P> <P></P> <HR> <P>Mithaniel Marr is allied with Quellious and Tunare, and is the enemy of Innoruuk, Rallos Zek, and Cazic-Thule.</P> <P></P> <P></P> <HR> <P>Ok, some of them could have changed, but just all good against all evil feels very dull.</P> <P>Message Edited by Zarafein on <SPAN class=date_text>09-01-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>05:44 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Zarafein on <span class=date_text>09-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:44 AM</span>

[Whazy]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Brell Serilis, God of the Underground, Smithing, and Beer. Brell is tied with Rallos Zek for the most amount of races they've created and put onto Norrath. He created the Dwarves, Gnomes, Ratonga, and Gnolls.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Concept:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/BrellEQ1.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Brell.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>He hasn't changed too much.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Brell Serilis isn't found in Eqlive, so these two pictures are all we have to go by. Kind of a shame too.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-31-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:40 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The Avatar of Below does make a brief appearance at the end of the Coldain Shawl quest in EQ1, and I think there's a picture of him on Allakhazam.com.  I always thought the Avatar of Below was an image of Brell.</P> <P>On a side note, I really hope there'll be some progressive trade skill quests like the shawl quest.</P>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Yeah I remember meeting the avatar of Below through the Thurgadin Shawl quest line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A normal Dwarf model doesn't exactly count.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <span class=date_text>09-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:12 AM</span>

[kajirala]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Porkchop133 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kajirala wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Everquest 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQ2Tunare.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pretty. At least it doesn't draw attention to her breasts like the EQOA version does.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-31-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:32 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>boooooooooooooooyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Tunare is AWSOME all the way!!!!<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>and as soon as she's released in-game all the girls are going to complain until they get a version of that dress :smileytongue:</P> <P>::runs and hides::<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>im a boy and im already saying i want this outfit for my main

[Desdichada]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Porkchop133 wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>and as soon as she's released in-game all the girls are going to complain until they get a version of that dress :smileytongue:</P> <P>::runs and hides::<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not this knight, I won't. I would not even consider dressing into the GL30 vulgar outfit. On the other hand, the dress Quellious wears gives me hope that there will be dresses without  holes for navels and without stupid leg-length cut-offs. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Kytraan]

Given that Inny is now a troll, does it seem like Rallos is now an ogre? Its kinda hard to tell with him being covered in armor, but something about the posture and the overall body form says Ogre.  I always thought he was supposed to be an orc? <div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kytraan wrote:<BR>Given that Inny is now a troll, does it seem like Rallos is now an ogre? Its kinda hard to tell with him being covered in armor, but something about the posture and the overall body form says Ogre.  I always thought he was supposed to be an orc? <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>He isn't an Orc, Ogre, Giant, or Goblin. Tallon and Vallon Zek take on more orcish features, but RZ has always been covered head to toe with armor so his real face is never seen.</P> <P> </P> <P>Again though, the gods make us see them however they want us to see them.</P>

[nikitta28]

Nope he looks exactly like the Thyr giants in Lavastorm and SE, but with a helmet.So orginal.<div></div>

[Silver_Feather]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kytraan wrote:<BR>Given that Inny is now a troll, does it seem like Rallos is now an ogre? Its kinda hard to tell with him being covered in armor, but something about the posture and the overall body form says Ogre.  I always thought he was supposed to be an orc? <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>He isn't an Orc, Ogre, Giant, or Goblin. Tallon and Vallon Zek take on more orcish features, but RZ has always been covered head to toe with armor so his real face is never seen.</P> <P> </P> <P>Again though, the gods make us see them however they want us to see them.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#ff0033>No,we see the gods however the devs make them..and so far it dosen`t look too origianl...</FONT>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div>The artwork of the gods does look a little lackluster.  I think at least part of the reason is because the gods aren't being depicted with their signature weapons (those who have one.)  It might have helped them look a bit more unique.<div></div>

[kajirala]

does tunare have a signature weapon?

[Mirander_1]

<div><blockquote><hr>kajirala wrote:<div></div>does tunare have a signature weapon?<hr></blockquote>Yeah, she had a staff that looked fitting for a druid (So kinda gnarly and natural-looking)</div>

[kajirala]

kk thanks i didnt know

[Cercs]

Interesting. Thanks, Cusas.My only gripe is with Quellious. Maybe it is just me, but the EQ1 picture seems to be to be a small, peaceful black child. In the EQ2 picture she's white, and I found that a bit disappointing.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cercsij wrote:<BR>Interesting. Thanks, Cusas.<BR><BR>My only gripe is with Quellious. Maybe it is just me, but the EQ1 picture seems to be to be a small, peaceful black child. In the EQ2 picture she's white, and I found that a bit disappointing.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>....... HOW THE **** DO YOU GET THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE'S BLACK!??????????

[Homeskillet]

    Guess what? She was.<div></div>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cercsij wrote:Interesting. Thanks, Cusas.My only gripe is with Quellious. Maybe it is just me, but the EQ1 picture seems to be to be a small, peaceful black child. In the EQ2 picture she's white, and I found that a bit disappointing.<div></div><hr></blockquote>....... HOW THE **** DO YOU GET THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE'S BLACK!??????????<hr></blockquote>Strangely enough, I also thought she was supposed to be black in the EQlive art.  I guess it has to be a combination of a shadow going over her face, and perhaps her facial features.  It actually kinda makes sense; she is basically the patron (or would it be matron) goddess of the Erudites, and in EQlive Erudites were basically black people with tall foreheads</div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Homeskillet wrote:<BR>    Guess what? She was.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Guess what? She doesn't exist in EQlive or EQOA, so you can't say that she was or not.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>*Looks at the pic*</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>.... yeah. I'm not seeing it. you can't really say there's a shadow over her face or anything like that, considering the aura around her.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>You look at Bertoxxulous' concept art. You clearly see a shadow covering his face because of the shroud he's wearing.</P> <P>you look at Fennin Ro's concept art. You clearly see dark skin of African-Arabic decent.</P> <P>You look at Druzzil Ro's concept Art. YOU CLEARLY SEE DARK SKIN AND HER DESCRIPTION EVEN SAYS SHE CLOSELY RELATES TO AN ERUDITE IN PHYSICAL APPEARANCE!</P> <P>You look at Luclin's concept Art: Ebony black skin for the Goddess of Shadows and Darkness herself.</P> <P>Vazaelle Kaliene Is an Erudite herself....</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Quellious? Nope. No dark skin there. Nothing to support she was black.</P>

[Atmosphear1993]

<DIV>Many of the drawing closely resemble current models in-game.  So if/when the gods do appear in the game, many might use the same models and possibly even the same textures that are already avaliable unlike their EQ1 in-game counterparts.  The artwork was meant to fit into the 3D models of the game rather than in-game models being influenced by the artowrk.  Some Gods might have original models though, like Cazic Thule and possibly Quellious.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thus, the newly envisioned gods look rather unoriginal to me.  It isn't even a given we will see them in-game yet though.  Perhaps that will be a different expansion.  But for example, my guess is that we will see the standard troll model enlarged with the same old chain texture with reworked colors for Inny.</DIV>

[jago quicksilver]

<div><blockquote><hr>oderus wrote:        Does innorruuk from champions of norrath look like mum-rah, from the thundercats, or is it just me?<div></div><hr></blockquote>he does lol. maybe mumrah is his grandfather or something?grandfather would be a plausible relative, since mumrah is all bandaged up and sounds like his vocal cords are gonna give out at any minute.think about it, how many kerrans do you know that worship innorruuk? not many, b/c they hold a grudge.</div>

[Mepha]

Ok so remember the Innothule swamp? Wasn't there some sort of tie between Innoruuk and Cazic Thule? I thought for some reason Trolls were made to resemble Innoruuk, it is not the other way around.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mephala wrote:<BR>Ok so remember the Innothule swamp? Wasn't there some sort of tie between Innoruuk and Cazic Thule? I thought for some reason Trolls were made to resemble Innoruuk, it is not the other way around.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That's correct. The lore behind Innoruuk's involvement with the trolls is debunked lore from Beta. HOWEVER. The evidence remained in the game to support that Innoruuk shaped the trolls after Cazic Thule created them. For starters, Innothul swamp's name alone. 2nd, Trolls could always worship Innoruuk as a diety though the reasoning why was never explained.

[Mepha]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Mephala wrote:Ok so remember the Innothule swamp? Wasn't there some sort of tie between Innoruuk and Cazic Thule? I thought for some reason Trolls were made to resemble Innoruuk, it is not the other way around. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>That's correct. The lore behind Innoruuk's involvement with the trolls is debunked lore from Beta. HOWEVER. The evidence remained in the game to support that Innoruuk shaped the trolls after Cazic Thule created them. For starters, Innothul swamp's name alone. 2nd, Trolls could always worship Innoruuk as a diety though the reasoning why was never explained.<hr></blockquote>Ok so my memory isn't failing me. It's been a while since I have been in EQ and I played it way before it was called "live". My favorite time in game was August of '99 up until and including the Velious expansion. After that I became more and more disenchanted with it.Outside of the things you mention, I think the sphere of control assigned to each God respectively would point to a tie. Hatred and fear are intimately linked.I always found it frustrating that they did leave so much in game that supported the unofficial beta lore and did not expand on it, or correct it. They mostly left a vacuum. Which is why you see many folks fascinated with the unofficial beta lore.</div><p>Message Edited by Mephala on <span class=date_text>09-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:56 AM</span>

[Zarafein]

<DIV>hm gues i'am the only one with problems regarding the new connections between each god.</DIV>

[KazzySoJaz]

<DIV>I am mad that I cannot be a war-like monk, I know it sounds funny and all but so does a halfling monk, I mean come on let me worship the god of my choice.  My halfling warrior followed rallos...  why can't my monk</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Because Monks arn't aggressive war mongers.</DIV>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Still prefer The Nameless, but I would take jobs from Quelli and Brell former, because she's cute, the latter because he supplies the booze. Ok so as Monk's go I can be mercenary lol, but then Klornie comes from a long line of Qeynos Monks, who are mostly Agnostic. The Nameless EQ1 [] EQOLA [] EQ2 [] </font></font></font><div></div>

[kajirala]

euw adothro tunare

[Zabjade]

<blockquote><hr>kajirala wrote:<div></div>euw adothro tunare<hr></blockquote><font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">???</font></font></font><div></div>

[kajirala]

i said tunare is my favorite god

[Zabjade]

<div></div><font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Ahh, mine is The Nameless because he reminds me of Yehova rather then some Greek godling. Some people have difficulties playing a diffrent race or gender, with me it's religion <span>:smileywink:</span> </font></font></font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Zabjade on <span class=date_text>09-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:56 PM</span>

[kajirala]

i see

[Renita_Serafim]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zabjade wrote:<BR><FONT color=#66ff00><FONT size=2><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Still prefer The Nameless, but I would take jobs from Quelli and Brell former, because she's cute, the latter because he supplies the booze.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>*sigh*</P> <P>The Nameless has no personality, no princibles which it visibly stands for. It isn't going to help you.</P>

[KazzySoJaz]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Because Monks arn't aggressive war mongers.</div><hr></blockquote>This one is <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  You should not be able to lump everyone into one category I mean diversity FTW.I will be agnostic cause quellious sucks.</div>

[Zabjade]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Astralmage wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Zabjade wrote:<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Still prefer The Nameless, but I would take jobs from Quelli and Brell former, because she's cute, the latter because he supplies the booze.</font></font></font> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>*sigh*</p> <p>The Nameless has no personality, no princibles which it visibly stands for. It isn't going to help you.</p><hr></blockquote><font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">*Sighs back sarcasticly and laughingly*<span>:smileytongue:</span> You don't even know that much, fact is he/she/it could have all kinds of personality, hard to tell since it hasn't gotten involved with Norrath other then creating the planet. Or it's personality might be hard for us to observe kind of like how we can only see certain wavelengths of light (or in this case personality) "Principals" it stands for Creation and Destruction, Birth and Death, Begining and the End of planets etc. Has anyone asked? <span>:smileywink: One thing, since there is so little about The Nameless, means that it wide open for interpetation. <font color="#66ff99"> </font><font color="#66ff99">Back on topic from AstralMage's derailing, WHERE did you find those images? I tried backtracking the eq2 images but only found your photobucket account.</font> </span></font></font></font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Zabjade on <span class=date_text>09-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:15 AM</span>

[Renita_Serafim]

<DIV><A href="http://lorenorrath.free.fr/read.php?link=gods_nameless" target=_blank>Nameless lore. Clicky.</A></DIV>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Yup seen it, a lot of unknowns, someone needs to bribe Lumena back BTW <span>:smileywink:</span> she used to be on Faydark now Faydark/Befallen server but snipings here and in game turned her off.  Perhaps make her Vhalen's apprentice? Also that just shows the EQ1 pic, where is Cusa nabbing the EQ2 pics from haven't been able to find them om the main site, granted only gave it a cursory look. </font></font></font><div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>You're not going to find them on the main site. This was an MMORPG exclusive. the Gods' images will be added to EQ2.com later on as Echoes gets closer to release.</DIV>

[Zabjade]

<font color="#66ff00"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Ahhh, lucky duck. Then again there is mention of Jusahorn[sp?] books in the peacock club. </font></font></font><div></div>

[Neili]

Nameless was also my favorite god because he made all the other gods, also he is a more christian based god in a way while the other's are like the greeks, who had gods for everything

[IrishWonder]

<DIV>For whoever had the question about the changes in the Gods' alliances/connections, I think it has to do with availability.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For instance, the old description for Quellious said she was allied with Rodcet Nife... however, Rodcet Nife won't be available as a worshippable God in Echoes of Faydwer, hence the reason he's not included as an ally in the new description. If you'll notice, all of the allies/enemies that the new descriptions list are going to be worshippable when Echoes ships. For all intents and purposes, I think we can still assume that the old alliances still stand, regardless of their omissions in the new descriptions.</DIV>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>I just noticed the original description of Rallos Zek says he's an enemy to Tunare and BERTOXXULOUS..... hmm...</DIV>

[IrishWonder]

<DIV>No one likes poor old Bertoxxulous :smileyindifferent:</DIV> <DIV>Maybe if he'd take a shower once in awhile...</DIV>

[Renita_Serafim]

Zabjade, <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=10319#M10319" target=_blank>your prayers are answered</A>, sorta.

[Sigr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Planes of Power:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQsolusek_ro.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Two-Tone. Awesome. Guess he's a Star Trek fan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-31-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>03:26 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I don't know, I still say his POP model looks a bit like Vicious from Cowboy Bebop:</P> <P><BR><IMG src="http://www.projectbag.com/cowboy_bebop/pics/vicious/vicious19.jpg"></P>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sigrah wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Planes of Power:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Cusashorn/EQsolusek_ro.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Two-Tone. Awesome. Guess he's a Star Trek fan.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Cusashorn on <SPAN class=date_text>08-31-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>03:26 PM</SPAN><BR></P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I don't know, I still say his POP model looks a bit like Vicious from Cowboy Bebop:</P> <P><BR><IMG src="http://www.projectbag.com/cowboy_bebop/pics/vicious/vicious19.jpg"></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>HOLY CRAP! Nice comparison there. LOL

[Cercs]

How do you *not* see that the EQLive one was black? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I mean, it appears as such, anywho. Kinda disappointing the EQ2 verison; I liked the EQ1 best.<div></div>

[Stupidk]

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=12596#M12596In case anyone hasn't seen it, these ain't really the Gods. Just a thought, but since the Gods were really always manifestations of what they held power over, perhaps those manifestations are reinstating themselves, but this time by inhabiting the bodies of mortals? Or maybe they're just choosing Avatars, and thas what these pictures are? After all, each of the "new Gods" looks a lot like one of the races - the biggest stretch is Cazic, who still bears a strong resemblance to a warped Lizardman. Seems like this could be some really cool lore coming along here.<div></div>

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>Stupidkid wrote:http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=12596#M12596In case anyone hasn't seen it, these ain't really the Gods. Just a thought, but since the Gods were really always manifestations of what they held power over, perhaps those manifestations are reinstating themselves, but this time by inhabiting the bodies of mortals? Or maybe they're just choosing Avatars, and thas what these pictures are? After all, each of the "new Gods" looks a lot like one of the races - the biggest stretch is Cazic, who still bears a strong resemblance to a warped Lizardman. Seems like this could be some really cool lore coming along here.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I'm sure there are quite a few Teir'Dal relieved to hear that is not Innoruuk.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Stupidkid wrote:<BR>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=12596#M12596<BR><BR>In case anyone hasn't seen it, these ain't really the Gods. Just a thought, but since the Gods were really always manifestations of what they held power over, perhaps those manifestations are reinstating themselves, but this time by inhabiting the bodies of mortals? Or maybe they're just choosing Avatars, and thas what these pictures are? After all, each of the "new Gods" looks a lot like one of the races - the biggest stretch is Cazic, who still bears a strong resemblance to a warped Lizardman. Seems like this could be some really cool lore coming along here.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm sure there are quite a few Teir'Dal relieved to hear that is not Innoruuk.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>yeah. relieved to hear that Innoruuk is not a troll, only maintains a troll-ish appearance anyway, and that he even gave up on the Dark Elves because they severely dissapointed him.

[RaphaNissi]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>RaphaNissi wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Stupidkid wrote:http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=echoesoffaydwer&message.id=12596#M12596In case anyone hasn't seen it, these ain't really the Gods. Just a thought, but since the Gods were really always manifestations of what they held power over, perhaps those manifestations are reinstating themselves, but this time by inhabiting the bodies of mortals? Or maybe they're just choosing Avatars, and thas what these pictures are? After all, each of the "new Gods" looks a lot like one of the races - the biggest stretch is Cazic, who still bears a strong resemblance to a warped Lizardman. Seems like this could be some really cool lore coming along here.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I'm sure there are quite a few Teir'Dal relieved to hear that is not Innoruuk.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>yeah. relieved to hear that Innoruuk is not a troll, only maintains a troll-ish appearance anyway, and that he even gave up on the Dark Elves because they severely dissapointed him.<hr></blockquote>Personally, I think he looks like a skinny freak.  I think he is greenish with blue hands, feet, and spots.  I think his nose looks like a pig from the front and that he needs glasses since he is squinting all the time.  I wouldn't deny that the trolls might have gotten some of his aspects like being greenish.  That's about all I see when you look at the original troll model.  <a href="http://www.tapr.org/%7EOutridersKarana/jpeg/innoleft.jpeg" target="_blank">(see this image)</a></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Yeah I know what Inny looks like. I posted him in the first post of this thread.</DIV>

[RaphaNissi]

<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>Yeah I know what Inny looks like. I posted him in the first post of this thread.</div><hr></blockquote>I wasn't stating that you didn't.  I was just stating my personal opinion so that readers would know where I'm coming from.  I'm not saying my opinion is right or wrong. You didn't need to take it personally.<div></div>

[nikitta28]

These guys are prolly all just avatars and we dont see the Gods for another 5-6 expansions.Because SOE knows what we want!<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RaphaNissi wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yeah I know what Inny looks like. I posted him in the first post of this thread.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I wasn't stating that you didn't.  I was just stating my personal opinion so that readers would know where I'm coming from.  I'm not saying my opinion is right or wrong. You didn't need to take it personally.<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Sorry. I didn't mean to sound so bitter or defensive. Something just came over me.

[RaphaNissi]

<div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> RaphaNissi wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Cusashorn wrote: <div>Yeah I know what Inny looks like. I posted him in the first post of this thread.</div> <hr> </blockquote>I wasn't stating that you didn't.  I was just stating my personal opinion so that readers would know where I'm coming from.  I'm not saying my opinion is right or wrong. You didn't need to take it personally. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>Sorry. I didn't mean to sound so bitter or defensive. Something just came over me.<hr></blockquote>No problem.  Motive behind written text can be hard to figure out sometimes.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Saroc_Luclin]

Re: God's opinions/sides with eachother.As some mentionned, they probably only mentionned the gods that are going to be in game, probably so they aren't too stuck when they go to add more as  time goes by. (For example if they mention Bertox and Rodcet, then later on, only add Bertox in, it could be unbalancing in the evil/neutral/good balance they'll try to maintain)Plus, it's been 500 years since we last paid close attention to the Gods; some may have mended old rivalries or started fresh ones. Especially considering how some planes were completely ravaged by the Mortal Invasions, while others escaped relatively unscathed. (Inny and Cazic got hit twice, both by mortals invading their planes constantly, and weakening them in the Plane of Time as well; meanwhile Brell hasn't had anyone come visiting since the Erudites knocked on his door long before EQLive's time.)Re: Quellious. Not sure I'd say she was black in the EQLive concept art; but she does seem to have (what's the term? Nubian?) features to her that lean that way. Not something I particularly noticed one way or another.<div></div>

[Zarafein]

<DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P>yeah. relieved to hear that Innoruuk is not a troll, only maintains a troll-ish appearance anyway, and that he even gave up on the Dark Elves because they severely dissapointed him</P> <P></P> <HR> <P>Well even if this is used as official lore, the Dark Elves don't seem to care to much about this, i don't think they even know it.Both guards of Innoruk's Prohphet are Teir'Dal, race traditions refer to Innoruk, well even the mentor in the longshadow alley says: "the teir'dal will rise again for we are the children of innoruuk-we are his choosen" I don't know any teir'dal npcs talking in the other direction. So either it's just not official lore or no one should know it (from roleplay perspective).</P> <P> </P>

[TaleraRis]

I saw an interesting proposition in one of the EoF board threads, that since that isn't Innoruuk, it could be Ykesha.<div></div>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>The Echoes of Feydwer website states otherwise.</DIV>

[Sedden]

<DIV>All the gods look good. Sure innoruuk looks like a troll instead of his butt ugly self for EQlive. And Mith Marr concept in EQ2 really needs a beard, it doesn't look like Mith Marr without a beard =</DIV>

[TaleraRis]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<div>The Echoes of Feydwer website states otherwise.</div><hr></blockquote>According to the devs on more than one thread on the EoF boards, that isn't Innoruuk. Looks very much like a troll, though, which is why Ykesha was mentioned I imagine.Found one of the postsGuess you're going to have to wait and see. But Lyndro's right, that's not Innoruuk. Take that as you will. You may or may not be wrong.Also worth mentioning is that the concept art posted so far is exactly that; a concept, not the final.<span></span><div>__________Noel WallingGame Designer, EverQuest II</div></div><p><span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by TaleraRis on <span class=date_text>09-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:56 AM</span>

[Cusashorn]

<DIV>Oh I know what Lyndro said. I read the post numerous times. All I'm saying is that the Echoes of Feydwer site insists upon it.</DIV>

[TaleraRis]

<DIV>Which was pointed out to him, but he still says it's wrong. Maybe it's an imposter.</DIV>

[RaphaNissi]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>TaleraRis wrote:<div>Which was pointed out to him, but he still says it's wrong. Maybe it's an imposter.</div><hr></blockquote>I've tried bringing up what the devs have said about this as well. It doesn't work, so we're just going to have to wait to see what exactly it all means. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><p>Message Edited by RaphaNissi on <span class=date_text>09-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:39 AM</span>

[Kendricke]

Again, we're drawn to the difference between assumptions and facts.For example, Cusashorn makes the <i>assumption</i> that the Echoes of Faydwer site "states" that this is Innoruuk. He goes on later to state:<blockquote><hr>Cusashorn wrote:<DIV>Oh I know what Lyndro said. I read the post numerous times. All I'm saying is that the Echoes of Feydwer site insists upon it.</DIV><hr></blockquote>Yes, Lyndro relies upon <i>facts</i> and points out that:<blockquote><hr>Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:<div><blockquote>I can't seem to find anything that lists that as "Innoruuk", it gives a description of Innoruuk, and has a picture of this person next to it...</blockquote></div><hr></blockquote>Now, when I wander over to the Echoes of Faydwer site, I find that yes indeed, Lyndro's facts are correct! There is no direct statement that the picture listed is Innoruuk himself. In fact, it could just as easily be one of "Innoruuk's followers", who are also referred to next to the picture.Again, I raise the admonishment against presenting assumptions, speculations, or beliefs as "fact". There's nothing inherently wrong with assumptions, speculations, or beliefs unto themselves, but there is a danger when such statements are presented as actual fact, when the reality is that no such fact is present. That's how gossip becomes repeated as truth, a subject on which I hold a particular vested interest.Yours in Honour,Lord Kendricke of Marr,High Priest of the Truthbringer

[silvername]

<P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kendricke wrote:<BR>Again, we're drawn to the difference between assumptions and facts.<BR><BR>For example, Cusashorn makes the <I>assumption</I> that the Echoes of Faydwer site "states" that this is Innoruuk. He goes on later to state:<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Oh I know what Lyndro said. I read the post numerous times. All I'm saying is that the Echoes of Feydwer site insists upon it.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>Yes, Lyndro relies upon <I>facts</I> and points out that:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>I can't seem to find anything that lists that as "Innoruuk", it gives a description of Innoruuk, and has a picture of this person next to it...<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Now, when I wander over to the Echoes of Faydwer site, I find that yes indeed, Lyndro's facts are correct! There is no direct statement that the picture listed is Innoruuk himself. In fact, it could just as easily be one of "Innoruuk's followers", who are also referred to next to the picture.<BR><BR>Again, I raise the admonishment against presenting assumptions, speculations, or beliefs as "fact". There's nothing inherently wrong with assumptions, speculations, or beliefs unto themselves, but there is a danger when such statements are presented as actual fact, when the reality is that no such fact is present. <BR><BR>That's how gossip becomes repeated as truth, a subject on which I hold a particular vested interest.<BR><BR>Yours in Honour,<BR>Lord Kendricke of Marr,<BR>High Priest of the Truthbringer<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P> <P>wow. you say things good. you make silvername confuseded. lol. kidin, very well said Kendricke.</P>

[Jaale]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> silvername wrote:<BR> <P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kendricke wrote:<BR>Again, we're drawn to the difference between assumptions and facts.<BR><BR>For example, Cusashorn makes the <I>assumption</I> that the Echoes of Faydwer site "states" that this is Innoruuk. He goes on later to state:<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cusashorn wrote:<BR> <DIV>Oh I know what Lyndro said. I read the post numerous times. All I'm saying is that the Echoes of Feydwer site insists upon it.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>Yes, Lyndro relies upon <I>facts</I> and points out that:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lyndro-EQ2 wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>I can't seem to find anything that lists that as "Innoruuk", it gives a description of Innoruuk, and has a picture of this person next to it...<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Now, when I wander over to the Echoes of Faydwer site, I find that yes indeed, Lyndro's facts are correct! There is no direct statement that the picture listed is Innoruuk himself. In fact, it could just as easily be one of "Innoruuk's followers", who are also referred to next to the picture.<BR><BR>Again, I raise the admonishment against presenting assumptions, speculations, or beliefs as "fact". There's nothing inherently wrong with assumptions, speculations, or beliefs unto themselves, but there is a danger when such statements are presented as actual fact, when the reality is that no such fact is present. <BR><BR>That's how gossip becomes repeated as truth, a subject on which I hold a particular vested interest.<BR><BR>Yours in Honour,<BR>Lord Kendricke of Marr,<BR>High Priest of the Truthbringer<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P> <P>wow. you say things good. you make silvername confuseded. lol. kidin, very well said Kendricke.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00>A few things occur to me, some of these will have been stated by others I'm sure. </FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00>The pictures of the people beside the gods names look a lot like their Prophet counterparts and it's possible that they are the prophets made into their high priest, now there are a few flies in the ointment of this argument one would be with Matoko being the prophet of Quellious and the image clearly being a little girl. So maybe when the Gods return they imbue the profits with their power and change their likeness? Though this is a bit of a stretch.. what do you guys think, are the prophets the people beside the names of the Gods on the EoF site?</FONT></P>

[TaleraRis]

I think they're all pretty spot on at least how the gods looked in EQ1 (that we saw, thank god Macho Man decided to stay home), except the picture under Inny's section. <div></div>