Do you like or dislike the changes? SImple Yes or No

[Eepop]

<P>After having played the changes, just give a simple Yes(I like the changes) / No(I don't like the changes) and what level you are. <BR><BR>Its entirely possible there are some problem levels despite many others doing well with the changes.<BR><BR><BR>As for how I feel<BR><BR>YES - Level 41<BR><BR><U><BR>Likes (4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></U>Level 20<BR>Level 32<BR>Level 33<BR>Level 34 x2<BR>Level 36<BR>Level 37 x2<BR>Level 40<BR>Level 41<BR>Level 43<BR>Level 44 x2<BR>Level 45 x3<BR>Level 47 x2<BR>Level 48<BR>Level 49 x2<BR>Level 50 x 23<BR>Level 51 x 2<BR>Level 53<BR>Level 54<BR><BR>What level Felix?<BR><BR><U>Dislikes (2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></U><BR>Level 27 x2<BR>Level 30 x2<BR>Level 31<BR>Level 32<BR>Level 35 x2<BR>Level 40<BR>Level 45 x2<BR>Level 46 x2<BR>Level 47<BR>Level 49<BR>Level 50 x9<BR>Level 51 x2<BR><BR>Ctrcivic? What level?<BR><BR></P> <P></P> <HR> <P>Initially it looks like there may be some problems around 30, which syncs with opinions I heard from guildmates around that level last night of other classes.  Perhaps there is a non class based issue at that level.<BR><BR>The more comments we get the more it looks like there may be a problem in the 27-32 area.<BR></P> <BR>Update:<BR>Did some testing with my 27 paladin and some near leveled guildmates and we didnt seem to be having too much trouble (without a priest to boot).  So there is definitely a point that a person can be adjusted enough to handle that content at that level, although I am certainly not ruling out the possibility that factors in that range make it more difficult than others.<BR> <P><SPAN class=time_text>Update #2:</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>Did some mentoring down to this level with my mystic and wasn't having any problems.  I know mentoring isn't perfect, but the more testing I do the more it looks like an adjustment problem.  My only guess is that the people having problems are doing what I did at those levels (pre revamp), which was use healing ritual and spectral ward exclusively.  But now those spells are much more appropriate for the range they were intended (teens and early 20s) and get "old" alot quicker.  Spectral Ward is replaced before 20 now even.</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Eepop on <SPAN class=date_text>09-27-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>09:21 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Eepop on <span class=date_text>09-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:21 AM</span>

[Faddor B]

30, hate it, ready to quit/reroll. <div></div>

[Terq]

<P>Yes.  I can finally keep an exp group alive without another healer.  </P> <P>Group status heals might need to be worked out though.  Haven't had a chance to play with the single target ones yet.  </P>

[Tsark]

YES - I like the changes. I am still learning how all my spells work in solo and group situations, but overall I like the increased challenge and the improved healing efficiency.

[thedu]

Yes, so far.  40 <div></div>

[SciFiG]

<DIV>Yes - 50 mystic</DIV><p>Message Edited by SciFiGuy on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:29 PM</span>

[Finora]

<P>no, not so far (only solod though) </P> <P> </P> <P>Level 47</P> <p>Message Edited by Calendri on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:32 PM</span>

[Godflower]

no 32ish / quitting - the game for solo/duoers is totaly messed. <P>Message Edited by Godflower on <SPAN class=date_text>09-14-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:36 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Godflower on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:37 PM</span>

[Kylema]

<P>No - Don't like so far</P> <P>L50</P>

[Jarvahl]

No. Lvl 30 Barbarian Mystic

[Stormbil]

<P>yes, level 49 barbarian mystic.</P> <P> </P> <P>I feel like I can actually solo heal for a group now</P>

[Child of the north]

BIG YES!  lvl 36- Splitpaw <div></div>

[Terq]

<P>L 50</P>

[SkizzleFrizzle]

<DIV>No.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 50 Mystic</DIV>

[Volka]

Hell yes. Level 20. First character. Up until this patch, I was pondering not actually picking up past this first month. <div></div>

[pol]

<DIV>No 51 mystic</DIV>

[Magnar]

No. Level 35. I'll either roll another character or quit. <div></div>

[Jedis-Pov]

No. 27 Mystic.

[Moonspinn]

<DIV>Yes-33 Mystic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes for lack of a "don't feel strongly either way" option. I must have been soloing in a manner that was complementary to the changes because I haven't had to change my strategy much. Yes, encounters that used to be trivial to the point of boredom aren't so trivial anymore, and the encounters that I used to actually have to heal myself on can be kind of challenging. I haven't grouped much as of yet, so have no insight on that, but from what I hear healing was improved so I'll vote yes.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Moonspinner on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:51 PM</span>

[aprilstor]

<P>Yes</P> <P>If I had to choose one <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Still lots of problems though, but better to me than before</P> <P>50 mystic</P>

[Kanud]

No....27 mystic <div></div>

[Death'Knig]

<P>Lvl 49 a simple Hell no!!  </P> <P> </P> <P>Did i mention um...... NO!</P>

[Baccalarium]

<DIV>Yes   I really can be primary healer.</DIV>

[Wzierbovs]

No.Taffin, 50th Mystic<div></div>

[Thatdumbg]

Level 50, and loving them. <div></div>

[FelixDomesticus]

No, group works, but solo is borked<div></div>

[monkeydave]

<P>LV 50 and fairly happy so far.</P> <P> </P>

[tebion]

lvl 50, yes! <div></div>

[Daemoon]

Lvl 50 Big Yes. <div></div>

[Zamba]

<DIV>Big yes, at level 50.</DIV>

[Resn]

<DIV>Yea do! - lvl 32 Mystic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Got to admitt, that I didn't do a lot of fighting yet. But first impressions were kewl. </DIV>

[Astery]

no. not at all!  level 31 Devote on Runnyeye

[Gardapthia]

<P>YES!</P> <P>I can actually solo now and am not so much of a generic healer :smileyhappy: .</P> <P> </P> <P>lvl 45 Mystic - Neriak</P> <P>lvl 50 Mystic - Beta</P> <P> </P>

[Taques]

<P>Yes! The game is totaly more fun now.</P> <P> </P> <P>Taquesis 48 Mystic</P>

[Jeridor]

Level 50, content. <div></div>

[Muad`D]

Level 50 and No. I wasn't particularly happy with the class or the game prior to the updates, and nothing that has been changed has impressed me for the better. I got used to using direct heals that cast fast and did so as a reliable healer pre-update, now that wards work my direct heal capabilities went way down. I'm just not blown away by the update as most everyone else seems to me. It appears to be the same old [Removed for Content] with a lot of new make up.

[The Lurking Shaman]

Lovin it at level 50.  Solo a little tedious tho but I much prefer grouping so /shrug <div></div>

[Syltara]

yes. level 49. main thing i'm afraid of is that i may have made mistakes in the char respec. kinda overwhelming to log in after the LU and just get hit bam-bam-bam with so many choices. hope SOE gives another round of respec at some point after players get a chance to try out the combat changes. <div></div>

[Eepop]

Quick comment: They will be offering another respec next week when they turn off the bonus xp and everyone has had some time to adjust and test what they want. <div></div>

[Symare]

<DIV>No.  Maybe because all my grouping is done with my trio (Monk, Dirge, and me).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>45th Mystic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>~ Fereshtah Rajir</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>Mystic of Rajir</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff9900>Councillor, Order of Destiny</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#00ccff>~ Phirra Jal'Acer</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#00ccff>Chemist</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#00ccff>Order of Destiny</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Karlen]

Yes.  It is going to take a while to get used to the aggro changes and the timing of DoTs, but overall I think positive changes.  Soloing, battles seem to take a bit longer, but I use less of my power bar.   Not sure about groups, but my initial reaction is that I can serve as main healer -- will take a while for others to get used to aggro dynamics as well before we make final conclusions. <div></div>

[Primaris]

<P>NO</P> <P>A fix to wards does not justify the nerfs on everything else, what is the pt of losing maul, increasing casting times, and decreasing duration of buffs?  What exactly is the pt. of Aid of the Oracle aka Shawdowy Attendant???  If someone could please explain the purpose of what it's for I would love to hear.....</P> <P>Not as though SOE really reads these boards but one could always hope <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Lionheart </P> <P>46 Mystic Grobb</P> <P> </P>

[trin ka]

<DIV>Lvl 40 mystic, mistmoore......Nope, canceled subscription.</DIV>

[Mercr]

50 mystic and definite yes.

[Owlbe]

<DIV>Yes. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>37 Barbarian Mystic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A few nitpicky things I would change that have been mentioned many times by other but I find everything much more streamlined than before.  I find soloing easier and had no probs grouping so I give it a big thumbs up. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Bolr]

50 Mystic. Leaning towards "no". With a few tweaks, that could easily change to "yes". My main "problem" right now is the sheer number of spells I have to cast in a small-group challenging fight. Seems I'm constantly chain-casting, and I need to. 25-30 casts per fight isn't really fun. <span><span><blockquote><hr>Primaris23 wrote:<p>A fix to wards does not justify the nerfs on everything else, what is the pt of losing maul, increasing casting times, and decreasing duration of buffs?  What exactly is the pt. of Aid of the Oracle aka Shawdowy Attendant???  If someone could please explain the purpose of what it's for I would love to hear.....</p><hr></blockquote></span>Let me take some guesses... Maul - loss of Maul damage is somewhat compensated by higher regular (i.e. auto-attack) damage. increasing casting times - done to put us "more on par" with other healers. Look at total healing "power", not particular spells. decreasing duration of buffs - seems they want players to focus on situational play. Shadowy Attendant - I'm guessing (and really hoping) that it's just currently bugged. </span> <div></div>

[Homj]

Yes. lvl 50 + <ul> <li>wards rocks! <li>lots of adept3, m1-m2 improvements including avatar. </ul> - <ul> <li>runic talisman- great buff, but because of little ward component im getting all adds <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <li>group water breathing. died once. fortunately i was alone <li>group cure. what the heck, i can cure 47 lvl damage. where to find those mobs?? <li>slows are working good against fighters. before lu13 we has a ability to "slow" caster type mobs. now its gone. only heal. before lu13 conception of mystics class was - to prevent damage. its still working great against fighter type mobs. and its absolutelly not working against caster type. </ul><p>Message Edited by Homjak on <span class=date_text>09-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:02 PM</span>

[Jays]

<P>Yes Lvl 50 Mystic</P> <P> </P> <P>Only negatives so far:</P> <P>1) Aggro from Runic Talisman Ward component I have Master 1 version and everything my group pulled made a bee line straight for me.</P> <P>2) Shadowy Attendant Doesnt appear to do anything unless I am missing it in the battle spam.</P> <P>Ummari</P> <P>Lvl 50 Mystic of Synergy</P> <P>Splitpaw</P>

[Maddcovv]

<P>50, no</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Saramina1]

<DIV>Yes! Lvl 50 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I like the changes for a few reasons.... We are now more like shamans of old. I have to be on game with my debuffs in order to keep up with heals. I have been experimenting with various group situations and our agro. Palladins have a spell that completely nulls our agro ( will get the name of it). As long as the tank hits the mob first then we should have no problems.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As far as solo... I can still solo and have a little power left over =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Saramina</DIV>

[Mattim]

Like, level 50 Mystic - AB.The only con so far is our buff agro, which needs to simply go. Leave hate generation to the skill of warding/healing not to incidental conc buffs.

[Zearo]

<P>Indifferent leaning towards yes</P> <P>Lvl 50</P> <P>I cant solo or pvp well.. but i can keep a group alive as good as the next guy.</P> <P>Oberon rocks, our badger is just a badger, and our buffs are still great.</P> <P>Havent tested out my debuffs yet but i will soon.</P> <P>( And why did it say priest damage was upped, when i logged in and my DOTs were doing alot less damage?)</P>

[paisan]

<DIV>Given how bad we had it before how can you not like the changes...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can keep my group alive but i have to work a little at it, big deal.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Are there problems with little things? Sure. Will EQ2 or any MMORPG ever be a perfect and flawless world that makes everyone happy? No...  Is the game fun even though a vestigial badger doesn't have a uber "I win" spell? Sure.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is my long winded non-simple <FONT color=#ff0000>YES</FONT> i like the changes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>50Mystic/50Dirge</DIV>

[Cmack]

<P>Level 50 mystic</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>YES but then again kicking us in the face would be better then what we where before</P>

[DarknessScyt]

<div></div>Yes, level 50 Mystic - Ogguk<hr><i>YES but then again kicking us in the face would be better then what we where before</i><hr>LOL !  <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[Naemir]

<DIV>Yes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Definite yes at level 47.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Daric</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[BALTO]

english : NO spanish:NO italian:NO portuge:NAO french:NON german: nein but will give them a few weeks to fix things up, since internal test, public test, and live servers all run diffrent code (sources morongard) <div></div>

[ctrcivic]

NO<div></div>

[crunchybob]

35 and I've rolled a warlock just in case they dont fix things soon. :smileyindifferent:

[Prismata]

Dislike(hate)-lvl 45<p>Message Edited by Prismata on <span class=date_text>09-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:46 AM</span>

[FelixDomesticus]

After few days of testing now I change my opinion to yes. There are still some problems, but it is for most parts better than before patch.<div></div>

[Jae]

<P>Yes!</P> <P>Overall the changes have made playing my Mystic more enjoyable.  I have a lvl 22 Paladin that can't even run through TS anymore without getting killed  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>*   PLEASE make Spirit of the Wolf a group buff</P> <P>*  PLEASE fix Shadowy Attendant</P> <P>'nuff said...</P> <P>-=Jaaeck, lvl 45 Mystic, Splitpaw Server</P>

[Ariaya]

I like it (44 Mystic)It takes a little getting used to but it's fun! If I could only figure out why I keep drawing agro from my duo partner (50 guard) on the pull when I haven't done anything (and he has no wards up)

[Tylee]

Yes, overall

[Godflower]

Like Felix, my opinion about combat is changing too to the yes side, especially since i figured out the con system and learned more of my abilities.  I still have reservations about the rate of xp gain for solo play after the bonus is over, and transit through Nek and TS (esp to splitpaw zone) for mid 20 characters.

[Karlen]

<span><blockquote><hr>Ariaya wrote:I like it (44 Mystic)It takes a little getting used to but it's fun! If I could only figure out why I keep drawing agro from my duo partner (50 guard) on the pull when I haven't done anything (and he has no wards up)<hr></blockquote>One thing it might be is the group concentration buff (I think it is Runic Shield for me) that has a ward component.  Anytime anyone in your group is hit it activates the ward and you get aggro.  It's not a big ward (mine is 42 points) but it regenerates every 4 seconds. One major effect is that you will get aggro, in particular, that aren't aggroed on someone else.  So if your fighter pulls a mob and two come with it, the extras will aggro on you right away (and the first one might as well, depending what he pulled with). It has been reported that pulling with a group taunt tends to reduce this effect.</span><div></div>

[Kana]

<P>An enthusiastic <STRONG>YES</STRONG>.</P> <P>It took almost a week for me to finally say that.  After the first night, I was so frustrated I had to stop playing.  Now that my usual group has things figured out, most notably the tank with aggro management, I'm a very happy Mystic.  I'm able to function as sole healer for things that simply wouldn't have been possible before.  I'm even finding that I can pre-ward in most situations.</P> <P>I've reversed my thinking on Runic Talisman as well.  Yes, it's annoying sometimes, but I have it up all the time now with very few problems.  Again, mainly due to the tank figuring out aggro control.</P> <P>Kanali - 50 Mystic</P>

[Dr^Ney]

Big Yes! level 47 .Fetidbeard - Runnyeye.

[KindredHeart]

<DIV>Level 50 Mystic - NO!!!</DIV>

[Hoodwink]

since this is a simple yes an no.... NO @ LVL 50.8 an allready set to go back into retirement. didnt like my pre LU13 mystic, an sure the *OBSCENE OBSENITY* dont like this butcher job. EQ2's 2nd pay to beta test has been released.

[Darl]

<P><FONT color=#33cc66>Yes</FONT>. Level 34</P> <P>TAnador - 50 Armorer, 34 Mystic</P>

[BALTO]

still NO, but yes finally a fix, heh ya folx that said you just had to learn a new play style.an they were working ok. they were broke, an you were a fanboy! of course only reason these were fixed is due to the exploit of usen the shaman hate, to get the rest of the group thru a zone with ease. <div></div>

[BALTO]

lvl 50.6 btw <div></div>

[CallMeToyMan]

51.5 mystic <div></div>With the hate reduction change in from yesterday, YES, my Mystic feels like a competant healer now. <div></div><p>Message Edited by CallMeToyMan on <span class=date_text>09-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:28 AM</span>

[Ariaya]

<blockquote><hr>Zotar99 wrote:<span>One thing it might be is the group concentration buff (I think it is Runic Shield for me) that has a ward component.  Anytime anyone in your group is hit it activates the ward and you get aggro. </span><div></div><hr></blockquote>I think that's it .. was playing around with spells and trying to figure out how to work with them. My tank now pulls with taunt or taunts asap and it generally works out well. I still get smacked occasionally, but not for too much damage.

[Mystiq]

Yes, I like the changes. We are better overall than we were before, period. <div></div>

[exxxie]

<div></div>Yes! - lvl 54 <div></div><p>Message Edited by exxxie on <span class=date_text>09-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:21 AM</span>

[SonanZ]

<P>No</P> <P>Level 51</P>

[thedu]

Level 43 now E, and liking. Although, they made oranges really tuff now <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> for soloing. BTW Eidolic Savior is the bomb! <div></div>

[resus]

Lvl 51 Mystic MistmooreI love it easy to be first healer in group with non stop pull. with 2 healer in group Oberon is kick [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] if someone in group have a problem. Some spell are casting slow its the only thing sony need to adjust.<div></div>

[Banza]

<DIV>Nope. Combat is still uneventful and long (unless I fight stuff that gives me .01%xp).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lucaya - 46 Mystic of Nektulos</DIV> <DIV>Account Cancelled</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Scrav]

Yes (L50), the combat changes have given me far more incentive to play now compared to before. <div></div>