Do you like or dislike the changes? SImple Yes or No

Eepop · 09-15-2005, 12:15 AM

After having played the changes, just give a simple Yes(I like the changes) / No(I don't like the changes) and what level you are.

Its entirely possible there are some problem levels despite many others doing well with the changes.

As for how I feel

YES - Level 41

Likes (4 SMILEY
Level 20
Level 32
Level 33
Level 34 x2
Level 36
Level 37 x2
Level 40
Level 41
Level 43
Level 44 x2
Level 45 x3
Level 47 x2
Level 48
Level 49 x2
Level 50 x 23
Level 51 x 2
Level 53
Level 54

What level Felix?

Dislikes (2 SMILEY
Level 27 x2
Level 30 x2
Level 31
Level 32
Level 35 x2
Level 40
Level 45 x2
Level 46 x2
Level 47
Level 49
Level 50 x9
Level 51 x2

Ctrcivic? What level?

Initially it looks like there may be some problems around 30, which syncs with opinions I heard from guildmates around that level last night of other classes. Perhaps there is a non class based issue at that level.

The more comments we get the more it looks like there may be a problem in the 27-32 area.

Update:
Did some testing with my 27 paladin and some near leveled guildmates and we didnt seem to be having too much trouble (without a priest to boot). So there is definitely a point that a person can be adjusted enough to handle that content at that level, although I am certainly not ruling out the possibility that factors in that range make it more difficult than others.

Update #2:

Did some mentoring down to this level with my mystic and wasn't having any problems. I know mentoring isn't perfect, but the more testing I do the more it looks like an adjustment problem. My only guess is that the people having problems are doing what I did at those levels (pre revamp), which was use healing ritual and spectral ward exclusively. But now those spells are much more appropriate for the range they were intended (teens and early 20s) and get "old" alot quicker. Spectral Ward is replaced before 20 now even.

Message Edited by Eepop on 09-27-200509:21 AM

Message Edited by Eepop on 09-27-2005 09:21 AM

Faddor B · 09-15-2005, 12:16 AM

30, hate it, ready to quit/reroll.

Terq · 09-15-2005, 12:20 AM

Yes. I can finally keep an exp group alive without another healer.

Group status heals might need to be worked out though. Haven't had a chance to play with the single target ones yet.

Tsark · 09-15-2005, 12:23 AM

YES - I like the changes. I am still learning how all my spells work in solo and group situations, but overall I like the increased challenge and the improved healing efficiency.

thedu · 09-15-2005, 12:23 AM

Yes, so far. 40

SciFiG · 09-15-2005, 12:25 AM

Yes - 50 mystic

Message Edited by SciFiGuy on 09-14-2005 10:29 PM

Finora · 09-15-2005, 12:32 AM

no, not so far (only solod though)

Level 47

Message Edited by Calendri on 09-14-2005 04:32 PM

Godflower · 09-15-2005, 12:35 AM

no 32ish / quitting - the game for solo/duoers is totaly messed.

Message Edited by Godflower on 09-14-2005 04:36 PM

Message Edited by Godflower on 09-14-2005 04:37 PM

Kylema · 09-15-2005, 01:33 AM

No - Don't like so far

L50

Jarvahl · 09-15-2005, 01:39 AM

No. Lvl 30 Barbarian Mystic

Stormbil · 09-15-2005, 01:42 AM

yes, level 49 barbarian mystic.

I feel like I can actually solo heal for a group now

Child of the north · 09-15-2005, 01:43 AM

BIG YES! lvl 36- Splitpaw

Terq · 09-15-2005, 01:52 AM

L 50

SkizzleFrizzle · 09-15-2005, 02:39 AM

No.

Level 50 Mystic

Volka · 09-15-2005, 02:43 AM

Hell yes. Level 20. First character. Up until this patch, I was pondering not actually picking up past this first month.

pol · 09-15-2005, 03:11 AM

No 51 mystic

Magnar · 09-15-2005, 03:11 AM

No. Level 35. I'll either roll another character or quit.

Jedis-Pov · 09-15-2005, 03:27 AM

No. 27 Mystic.

Moonspinn · 09-15-2005, 04:50 AM

Yes-33 Mystic

Yes for lack of a "don't feel strongly either way" option. I must have been soloing in a manner that was complementary to the changes because I haven't had to change my strategy much. Yes, encounters that used to be trivial to the point of boredom aren't so trivial anymore, and the encounters that I used to actually have to heal myself on can be kind of challenging. I haven't grouped much as of yet, so have no insight on that, but from what I hear healing was improved so I'll vote yes.

Message Edited by Moonspinner on 09-14-2005 05:51 PM

aprilstor · 09-15-2005, 04:54 AM

Yes

If I had to choose one SMILEY Still lots of problems though, but better to me than before

50 mystic

Kanud · 09-15-2005, 05:12 AM

No....27 mystic

Death'Knig · 09-15-2005, 05:48 AM

Lvl 49 a simple Hell no!!

Did i mention um...... NO!

Baccalarium · 09-15-2005, 06:25 AM

Yes I really can be primary healer.

Wzierbovs · 09-15-2005, 06:31 AM

No.Taffin, 50th Mystic

Thatdumbg · 09-15-2005, 06:38 AM

Level 50, and loving them.

FelixDomesticus · 09-15-2005, 07:35 AM

No, group works, but solo is borked

monkeydave · 09-15-2005, 07:39 AM

LV 50 and fairly happy so far.

tebion · 09-15-2005, 11:30 AM

lvl 50, yes!

Daemoon · 09-15-2005, 12:14 PM

Lvl 50 Big Yes.

Zamba · 09-15-2005, 12:25 PM

Big yes, at level 50.

09-15-2005, 12:15 AM	#1
Eepop Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 704	After having played the changes, just give a simple Yes(I like the changes) / No(I don't like the changes) and what level you are. Its entirely possible there are some problem levels despite many others doing well with the changes. As for how I feel YES - Level 41 Likes (4 Level 20 Level 32 Level 33 Level 34 x2 Level 36 Level 37 x2 Level 40 Level 41 Level 43 Level 44 x2 Level 45 x3 Level 47 x2 Level 48 Level 49 x2 Level 50 x 23 Level 51 x 2 Level 53 Level 54 What level Felix? Dislikes (2 Level 27 x2 Level 30 x2 Level 31 Level 32 Level 35 x2 Level 40 Level 45 x2 Level 46 x2 Level 47 Level 49 Level 50 x9 Level 51 x2 Ctrcivic? What level? Initially it looks like there may be some problems around 30, which syncs with opinions I heard from guildmates around that level last night of other classes. Perhaps there is a non class based issue at that level. The more comments we get the more it looks like there may be a problem in the 27-32 area. Update: Did some testing with my 27 paladin and some near leveled guildmates and we didnt seem to be having too much trouble (without a priest to boot). So there is definitely a point that a person can be adjusted enough to handle that content at that level, although I am certainly not ruling out the possibility that factors in that range make it more difficult than others. Update #2: Did some mentoring down to this level with my mystic and wasn't having any problems. I know mentoring isn't perfect, but the more testing I do the more it looks like an adjustment problem. My only guess is that the people having problems are doing what I did at those levels (pre revamp), which was use healing ritual and spectral ward exclusively. But now those spells are much more appropriate for the range they were intended (teens and early 20s) and get "old" alot quicker. Spectral Ward is replaced before 20 now even. Message Edited by Eepop on 09-27-200509:21 AM Message Edited by Eepop on 09-27-2005 09:21 AM __________________

09-15-2005, 12:20 AM	#3
Terq Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 272	Yes. I can finally keep an exp group alive without another healer. Group status heals might need to be worked out though. Haven't had a chance to play with the single target ones yet. __________________ Terq Dwarven Mystic & Half Elf Assassin Steamfont/Oasis

09-15-2005, 12:23 AM	#4
Tsark Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8	YES - I like the changes. I am still learning how all my spells work in solo and group situations, but overall I like the increased challenge and the improved healing efficiency. __________________ Tsark - Level 66 Mystic Officer - Pabulum Draconis Blackburrow Server

09-15-2005, 12:25 AM	#6
SciFiG Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	Yes - 50 mystic Message Edited by SciFiGuy on 09-14-2005 10:29 PM __________________

09-15-2005, 12:32 AM	#7
Finora Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,423	no, not so far (only solod though) Level 47 Message Edited by Calendri on 09-14-2005 04:32 PM __________________ Lady Finora Mystic of Prism Everfrost(Grobb) Finora of Valiant Knights Test Server

09-15-2005, 12:16 AM	#2
Faddor B Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6	30, hate it, ready to quit/reroll.

09-15-2005, 12:23 AM	#5
thedu General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 675	Yes, so far. 40

09-15-2005, 12:35 AM	#8
Godflower Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 71	no 32ish / quitting - the game for solo/duoers is totaly messed. Message Edited by Godflower on 09-14-2005 04:36 PM Message Edited by Godflower on 09-14-2005 04:37 PM __________________ Sprot ~ Fae Conjurer Wandering Souls Oasis

09-15-2005, 01:33 AM	#9
Kylema Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 22	No - Don't like so far L50 __________________ Kylemall Inthensom L60 Barbarian Mystic -Nomads- Blackburrow

09-15-2005, 01:39 AM	#10
Jarvahl Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11	No. Lvl 30 Barbarian Mystic __________________ Jorakol 69 Iksar Shadowknight Jorakkal 63 Ogre Berserker

09-15-2005, 01:42 AM	#11
Stormbil Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 52	yes, level 49 barbarian mystic. I feel like I can actually solo heal for a group now

09-15-2005, 01:43 AM	#12
Child of the north Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8	BIG YES! lvl 36- Splitpaw __________________ Snorre - Mystic - Fallout

09-15-2005, 01:52 AM	#13
Terq Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 272	L 50 __________________ Terq Dwarven Mystic & Half Elf Assassin Steamfont/Oasis

09-15-2005, 02:39 AM	#14
SkizzleFrizzle Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3	No. Level 50 Mystic

09-15-2005, 02:43 AM	#15
Volka Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 44	Hell yes. Level 20. First character. Up until this patch, I was pondering not actually picking up past this first month.

09-15-2005, 03:11 AM	#16
pol Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15	No 51 mystic

09-15-2005, 03:11 AM	#17
Magnar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	No. Level 35. I'll either roll another character or quit.

09-15-2005, 03:27 AM	#18
Jedis-Pov General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3	No. 27 Mystic.

09-15-2005, 04:50 AM	#19
Moonspinn General Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 63	Yes-33 Mystic Yes for lack of a "don't feel strongly either way" option. I must have been soloing in a manner that was complementary to the changes because I haven't had to change my strategy much. Yes, encounters that used to be trivial to the point of boredom aren't so trivial anymore, and the encounters that I used to actually have to heal myself on can be kind of challenging. I haven't grouped much as of yet, so have no insight on that, but from what I hear healing was improved so I'll vote yes. Message Edited by Moonspinner on 09-14-2005 05:51 PM

09-15-2005, 04:54 AM	#20
aprilstor Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 36	Yes If I had to choose one Still lots of problems though, but better to me than before 50 mystic

09-15-2005, 05:12 AM	#21
Kanud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	No....27 mystic

09-15-2005, 05:48 AM	#22
Death'Knig Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in Norrath Posts: 2	Lvl 49 a simple Hell no!! Did i mention um...... NO! __________________

09-15-2005, 06:25 AM	#23
Baccalarium Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 502	Yes I really can be primary healer.

09-15-2005, 06:31 AM	#24
Wzierbovs Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	No.Taffin, 50th Mystic __________________ Taffin / 60 Mystic / Najena - Legion

09-15-2005, 06:38 AM	#25
Thatdumbg General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Worldwide Posts: 314	Level 50, and loving them. __________________ Ulfgar Sjelkriger Shaman-At-Large (and retired?) Officer, Eidolon Antonia Bayle (Old Forum Handle: Thatdumbguy)

09-15-2005, 07:35 AM	#26
FelixDomesticus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 289	No, group works, but solo is borked __________________ =========================================== If your parents did not have a child, it is unlikely that you will have one either

09-15-2005, 07:39 AM	#27
monkeydave Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	LV 50 and fairly happy so far.

09-15-2005, 11:30 AM	#28
tebion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 258	lvl 50, yes! __________________ small and proud of it

09-15-2005, 12:14 PM	#29
Daemoon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	Lvl 50 Big Yes.

09-15-2005, 12:25 PM	#30
Zamba Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newcastle- Australia Posts: 9	Big yes, at level 50. __________________ Kasol Kae from Memento Mori Dwarf Mystic of Nagena