Crowd Control is everybodys business

[Catl]

<div>I love how the shaman get an AE mez att lvl 69 that lasts twice as long as the Illusionist ae mez.  This is the true spirit of class balancing.  Now, if they would only let my Illusionist wear chain armor!</div>

[zit]

<div></div>i love that those unmezable / unstunable / unstifleable mobs in HoF still can be rooted and feared etc. makes other mage classes and even some healer better at CC there than chanter. Now, if they would only give me dps like a summoner !

[Cylanth]

<div></div><p>You know, someone with some time should check and see how many other classes can mezz.  The enchanter defining ability has basically been given to almost every other class. I am not talkinga bout Pacify or something like that, an actual mezz.</p><p>Off the top of my head, I know that bards, clerics, bruisers, swashbucklers, mystics, wizards can mezz.  I am sure other classes got some type of mezz too.</p><p>Someone needs to compile a complete list and post it on the main spell forum, and then ask whats the purpose of enchanters anymore.</p>

[trenor]

<div>Nope! Crowd control is my business!! Thats why i rolled and play a chanter for control.  Dps is other peeps business tankings other peeps business and now im bankrupt! [Removed for Content]</div>

[Pins]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Cylanth wrote:<div></div><p>You know, someone with some time should check and see how many other classes can mezz.  The enchanter defining ability has basically been given to almost every other class. I am not talkinga bout Pacify or something like that, an actual mezz.</p><p>Off the top of my head, I know that bards, clerics, bruisers, swashbucklers, mystics, wizards can mezz.  I am sure other classes got some type of mezz too.</p><p>Someone needs to compile a complete list and post it on the main spell forum, and then ask whats the purpose of enchanters anymore.</p><hr></blockquote>Clerics have a pacify, not a mez.  Mystics don't have a mez either.  Only Troubadors(dirges do not have it), Bruisers(less duration than recast), Swashbucklers(less duration than recast), Wizards(which also mez themself), and Enchanters can do a real mez.

[MilkToa]

<div>Defilers are shaman and they DO NOT get a mez of any kind.</div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by MilkToast on <span class="date_text">03-28-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:37 PM</span></p>

[Catl]

<div></div><p>For those of you that are misinformed about Mystic Mez, I refer you to the Mystic 69 spell, Sonorus Spirits:</p><p>From the description:</p><p>Mesmerizes all enemies near the mystic and reduces their hate towards the shaman.  Any hostile actions taken on them will break the mesmerize effect</p><p> </p><p>Power 190</p><p>Casting 0.5 sec</p><p>Recovery 0.5 sec</p><p>Recast 5 minutes</p><p>Duration 12.5 sec</p><p> </p><p>Please take some pains to inform yourself before making blanket false statements.  This spell was easily checked</p><p> </p>

[Catl]

<div></div><p>Sorry for the above scold..  I was looking at a different thread and got carried away!</p><p>Anyway, the stats and the sentiment are genuine ))</p>

[Antryg Mistrose]

<div></div><font color="#ffff00">Pinski wrote: "Clerics have a pacify, not a mez"</font>3 actually:Soothe - 60 sec duration, reduces aggro range of mob down to trip over distance.  And it doesn't aggro you after.  Beats any mez I've got as an Illusionist hands down in some situations (especially harvesting).  Only caveat, you need to cast it before the mobs starts combat.Harmony - 15 minute recast, and dosn't last long.  Not sure it has a limit on mob number though - true AoESign line - 20sec pacify - mob still has movement, and there is no mezz animation.  But so what - it still takes the mob out of combat, and is hardly ever resisted at Master 1, ( does have a 20sec recast though)Also 1 stun, plus another 2 if you take the right AA linesTemplar = Ghetto enchanter<div></div><p>Message Edited by Antryg Mistrose on <span class="date_text">04-06-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:53 AM</span></p>

[Barobra]

<div></div>With a recast of 5 minutes I am not too worried about it.

[zit]

<div></div><p>worried or not, i am missing some consistancy.</p><p>when our personae had a shorter cast time than summoner pets it got increased to 10 seconds.</p><p>now we have a shorter mez duration on our emergency spell than mystics, so why dont increase it also? :smileytongue:</p><p> </p><p>or maybe make the spell upgradeable like healer emergency spells are.</p><p>we get barrier of intellect as a one time spell, unlike healers who get it as a spell line. which doesnt only result in mystic at lvl 70 having double duration on the mez, but also 3000 hate reduce vs. illusionist 950 or so.</p><p>maybe we can get Phase replaced with an upgraded BoI ?</p><p>or even better : replace Phase with an upgrade of Mana Cloak !</p>

[Barobra]

<div></div><div>I still think phase with an amnesia effect would make me happy about this spell and give it some great uses in a group. Wouldn't make us overpowered but would add some really nice CC without worrying about broken mezzes.</div>