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IllusiveThoughts

08-12-2006, 10:11 AM

<DIV>I figured since the parses are all spread out in different threads we can consolidate our parse postings into one thread.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Let's try to keep it somewhat standardized so we can see what buffs we had on the parsings so try to give some measure for comparison.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll start it off with Lyceum today.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BUFFS: first 10 or so fights had amends + synergism + illusonist group regen (42 per tick) + 36 self buffed flowing thought on me</DIV> <DIV>Dirge in the MT group for hate gain. Also had Vim from the fury.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>After the coercer showed up we moved the dirge to my group and coercer to MT group which gave me Dont kill the messenger (7.5% crit chance) and allegro (3.6% spell haste) and dirge mele buffed up the mele's in the group. I still kept synergism and gained harmonious link.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll just post every parse up till we got tired and called it a night and exclude the healers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>**Reminder** I post personal DPS not EXT DPS, the raids dps on the first line is in EXT DPS, and its sorted by total dmg, not highest dps. **Reminder**</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (03:12) 1484784 | 7733.25 [HH Illu-Fusion-15069] Alle 60 | 233902 | 1344.26 conj Illu 10 | 210798 | 1277.56 me Oben 34 | 142175 | 856.48 warlock Haun 14 | 138635 | 778.85 ranger Kyri 0 | 129314 | 793.34 wiz 2 Mara 75 | 126326 | 730.21 bruiser Nald 452 | 120516 | 637.65 MT Cadd 3 | 98315 | 561.80 guardian Kala 28 | 72866 | 421.19 zerker Jona 23 | 56224 | 349.22 dirge Arth 37 | 56157 | 324.61 paly</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (03:11) 1534974 | 8036.51 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-13386] Illu 12 | 203593 | 1233.90 me Alle 75 | 195595 | 1105.06 conj Haun 29 | 143704 | 887.06 ranger Mara 55 | 135495 | 778.71 bruiser Kyri 3 | 130690 | 768.76 wizard 2 Numb 33 | 122634 | 725.65 ranger 2 Nald 364 | 110158 | 589.08 MT Oben 29 | 104502 | 597.15 warlock Cadd 5 | 89063 | 511.86 guardian Arth 67 | 72566 | 419.46 paly Kala 43 | 65766 | 375.81 zerker Jona 17 | 54445 | 292.72 dirge Haka 37 | 37469 | 243.31 paly 2 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:46) 1560031 | 9397.78 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-15992] Illu 7 | 218564 | 1507.34 me Alle 43 | 184077 | 1172.47 conj Numb 45 | 136051 | 925.52 ranger 1 Haun 33 | 127077 | 847.18 ranger 2 Oben 20 | 121510 | 799.41 warlock Mara 54 | 119065 | 778.20 bruiser Kyri 2 | 110005 | 763.92 wizard 2 Nald 305 | 104512 | 641.18 MT Cadd 11 | 81727 | 530.69 guardian Arth 39 | 67207 | 445.08 paly Jona 24 | 57712 | 384.75 dirge Kala 18 | 49888 | 323.95 zerker Avra 0 | 37937 | 259.84 illusionist Haka 39 | 36330 | 245.47 paly2</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:32) 1565705 | 10300.69 [HH Illu-Fusion-16025] Illu 3 | 217610 | 1740.88 me Alle 49 | 207884 | 1453.73 conj Numb 32 | 148071 | 1156.81 ranger 1 Oben 41 | 133036 | 964.03 warlock Haun 20 | 117994 | 975.16 ranger 2 Nald 442 | 113978 | 764.95 MT Kyri 1 | 106931 | 810.08 wizard 2 Mara 58 | 101251 | 761.29 bruiser Cadd 4 | 74884 | 567.30 guardian Kala 30 | 74161 | 593.29 zerker Haka 65 | 66686 | 466.34 paly 1 Arth 54 | 56241 | 429.32 paly 2 Jona 21 | 49801 | 341.10 dirge Avra 0 | 21999 | 150.68 illusionist Allies: (01:05) 758462 | 11668.65 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-15260] Illu 0 | 94981 | 1758.91 me Alle 15 | 88872 | 1481.20 conj Oben 22 | 62986 | 1085.97 warlock Haun 14 | 60885 | 1449.64 ranger Kyri 1 | 60220 | 1136.23 wizard 2 Numb 17 | 57015 | 1213.09 ranger 2 Mara 23 | 46401 | 843.65 bruiser Nald 89 | 41702 | 661.94 MT Cadd 1 | 39565 | 682.16 guardian Arth 30 | 35268 | 801.55 paly 1 Kala 8 | 27208 | 485.86 zerker Jona 12 | 22413 | 407.51 dirge Avra 1 | 20712 | 376.58 illusionist Haka 19 | 18193 | 404.29 paly 2</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:45) 949803 | 9045.74 [HH Illu-Fusion-17472] Illu 1 | 146295 | 1625.50 me Alle 70 | 91152 | 990.78 conj Kyri 1 | 91039 | 1011.54 wizard 2 Oben 12 | 90278 | 950.29 warlock Numb 31 | 87303 | 1039.32 ranger 1 Haun 9 | 65745 | 842.88 ranger 2 Nald 201 | 60305 | 591.23 MT Mara 33 | 58579 | 629.88 bruiser Cadd 0 | 36633 | 389.71 guard Avra 1 | 36428 | 387.53 illusionist Haka 25 | 35141 | 341.17 paly 1 Arth 34 | 34248 | 360.51 paly 2 Kala 8 | 32509 | 391.67 zerker Jona 17 | 29169 | 313.65 dirge</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:33) 1527616 | 9984.42 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-17564] Illu 29 | 220146 | 1747.19 me Oben 32 | 175996 | 1189.16 warlock Alle 29 | 175710 | 1195.31 conj Kyri 1 | 134977 | 1014.87 wizard 2 Numb 25 | 128750 | 1170.46 ranger 1 Nald 457 | 116858 | 773.89 MT Haun 19 | 105233 | 884.31 ranger 2 Mara 28 | 85128 | 686.52 bruiser Kala 18 | 72293 | 535.50 zerker Cadd 5 | 65575 | 516.34 guard Haka 72 | 63155 | 444.75 paly 1 Arth 66 | 60660 | 409.86 paly 2 Jona 27 | 44577 | 337.70 dirge Avra 1 | 37201 | 304.93 illusionist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:10) 752588 | 10751.26 [HH Illu-Fusion-12495] Illu 7 | 100541 | 1675.68 me Alle 25 | 88608 | 1452.59 conj Oben 15 | 70357 | 1327.49 warlock Haun 12 | 70036 | 1346.85 ranger 1 Numb 15 | 60784 | 1085.43 ranger 2 Kyri 0 | 51452 | 1071.92 wizard 2 Nald 117 | 46900 | 689.71 MT Mara 19 | 40264 | 856.68 bruiser Kala 11 | 38205 | 596.95 zerker Arth 38 | 36943 | 577.23 paly 1 Cadd 0 | 32258 | 537.63 guard Haka 27 | 31471 | 484.17 paly 2 Jona 9 | 25900 | 488.68 dirge</DIV> <DIV>Avra 0 | 15234 | 276.98 illusioinst</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (02:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1522551 | 10287.51 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-17615] Alle 34 | 228509 | 1692.66 conj</DIV> <DIV>Illu 9 | 215896 | 1699.97 me Oben 21 | 155332 | 1117.50 warlock Kyri 1 | 145560 | 1173.87 wizard 2 Numb 25 | 100664 | 768.43 ranger 1 Haun 31 | 100079 | 781.87 ranger 2</DIV> <DIV>Nald 370 | 98784 | 676.60 MT Kala 27 | 83193 | 649.95 zerker Mara 39 | 79495 | 597.71 bruiser Haka 86 | 72180 | 515.57 paly 1 Cadd 1 | 60028 | 451.34 guard Arth 49 | 50770 | 367.90 paly 2 Jona 25 | 34628 | 249.12 dirge Avra 0 | 31501 | 244.19 Illusionist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (05:34) 3106904 | 9302.11 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-16970] Illu 21 | 467696 | 1489.48 me Alle 95 | 433853 | 1322.72 conj Haun 51 | 290934 | 932.48 ranger 1 Kyri 3 | 269392 | 847.14 wizard 2 Numb 81 | 250706 | 793.37 ranger 2 Oben 17 | 247571 | 750.22 warlock Nald 851 | 233044 | 697.74 MT Mara 108 | 213943 | 674.90 bruiser Haka 149 | 145016 | 439.44 paly 1 Arth 78 | 114468 | 357.71 paly 2 Jona 49 | 102458 | 325.26 dirge Kala 47 | 94170 | 298.01 zerker Cadd 5 | 84193 | 597.11 guard Avra 1 | 39641 | 126.25 illusionist </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>***now the coercer joined and I started getting dont kill the messenger, allegro, and harmonious link*** </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:25) 773966 | 9105.48 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-18744] Illu 16 | 130483 | 1787.44 me Alle 2 | 98208 | 1227.60 conj Oben 20 | 71467 | 965.77 warlock Kyri 0 | 70091 | 1046.13 wizard 2 Haun 7 | 68003 | 1000.04 ranger 1 Nald 121 | 46667 | 555.56 MT Mara 18 | 45373 | 648.19 bruiser Arth 38 | 36677 | 476.32 paly 1 Sand 2 | 35767 | 567.73 coercer joined the raid Jona 18 | 30290 | 488.55 dirge Haka 16 | 27673 | 379.08 paly 2 Avra 0 | 25150 | 369.85 illusioinst Kala 21 | 23769 | 330.13 zerker Numb 14 | 22494 | 1405.88 ranger afk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (02:15) 1502795 | 11131.81 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-23369] Alle 4 | 221673 | 1731.82 conj Illu 53 | 216671 | 1917.44 me Oben 26 | 149704 | 1227.08 warlock Kyri 21 | 140504 | 1142.31 wizard 2 Nald 400 | 109689 | 824.73 MT Haun 19 | 98915 | 797.70 ranger 1 Numb 35 | 96843 | 842.11 ranger 2 Haka 69 | 83339 | 636.18 paly 1 Arth 64 | 67097 | 516.13 paly 2 Sand 16 | 60423 | 575.46 coercer Mara 26 | 58395 | 482.60 bruiser Jona 18 | 50390 | 423.45 dirge Kala 11 | 49959 | 434.43 zerker Avra 2 | 39093 | 331.30 illusioinist </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1016229 | 10369.68 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-18741] Illu 23 | 138225 | 1570.74 me Trit 13 | 99586 | 1185.55 new conj joined the raid Kyri 0 | 94808 | 1142.27 wizard 2 Oben 12 | 91406 | 1062.86 warlock Numb 36 | 79598 | 994.98 ranger 1 Haun 20 | 76252 | 977.59 ranger 2 Alle 21 | 74358 | 826.20 conj 2 Nald 201 | 57472 | 617.98 MT Haka 49 | 55170 | 599.67 paly 1 Mara 34 | 41510 | 525.44 bruiser Jona 15 | 38035 | 528.26 dirge Sand 9 | 36793 | 471.71 coercer Arth 26 | 20009 | 227.38 paly 2 Kala 4 | 19566 | 257.45 zerker Avra 0 | 17138 | 216.94 illusioinst </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (01:20) 983715 | 12296.44 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-12815] Illu 19 | 117359 | 1629.99 me Alle 4 | 106130 | 1434.19 conj 1 Trit 17 | 99031 | 1478.08 conj 2 Oben 32 | 75704 | 1009.39 warlock Haun 12 | 73313 | 1047.33 ranger 1 Kyri 5 | 63532 | 1095.38 wizard 2 Numb 27 | 59377 | 873.19 ranger 2 Nald 187 | 58881 | 736.01 MT Arth 40 | 44227 | 680.42 paly 1 Haka 25 | 41148 | 534.39 paly 2 Mara 20 | 36937 | 559.65 bruiser Monc 9 | 36459 | 651.05 ranger 3 Jona 28 | 32192 | 519.23 dirge Sand 1 | 30049 | 484.66 coercer Kala 4 | 26377 | 412.14 zerker Avra 0 | 21729 | 339.52 illusionist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> going to start a 2nd post to continue on with parses </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-11-2006 11:25 PM

IllusiveThoughts

08-12-2006, 10:12 AM

<DIV>Allies: (01:02) 813706 | 13124.29 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-15918] Illu 18 | 102806 | 1977.04 me Alle 0 | 73267 | 1308.34 conj 1 Trit 7 | 65983 | 1403.89 conj 2 Haun 6 | 58489 | 1193.65 ranger 1 Monc 13 | 58037 | 1381.83 ranger 2 Oben 1 | 50696 | 1078.64 warlock Kyri 2 | 47836 | 1112.47 wizard 1 Numb 7 | 46591 | 1083.51 ranger 3 Arth 39 | 44394 | 870.47 paly 1 Mara 18 | 44129 | 865.27 bruiser Nald 93 | 43459 | 712.44 MT Haka 31 | 35896 | 664.74 paly 2 Jona 10 | 28523 | 663.33 dirge Kala 10 | 22257 | 494.60 zerker Sand 1 | 21776 | 558.36 coercer Avra 0 | 19154 | 416.39 illuionist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (02:05) 1502972 | 12023.78 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-14880] Illu 25 | 192606 | 1704.48 me Alle 24 | 189216 | 1659.79 conj 1 Oben 30 | 137524 | 1227.89 warlock Trit 12 | 127440 | 1202.26 conj 2 Nald 394 | 117459 | 987.05 MT Haun 24 | 101907 | 961.39 ranger 1 Numb 35 | 98461 | 965.30 ranger 2 Monc 16 | 77869 | 756.01 ranger 3 Haka 45 | 67481 | 571.87 paly 1 Kyri 6 | 64334 | 630.73 wizard 2 Arth 71 | 63780 | 585.14 paly 2 Sand 5 | 53760 | 571.91 coercer Jona 19 | 51305 | 475.05 dirge Mara 26 | 47309 | 430.08 bruiser Kala 15 | 36846 | 354.29 zerker Avra 7 | 36106 | 328.24 illusionist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:22) 977144 | 11916.39 [HH Illu-Fusion-15942] Illu 5 | 129015 | 1743.45 me Alle 8 | 110856 | 1478.08 conj Trit 25 | 82920 | 1359.34 conj 2 Oben 4 | 70791 | 983.21 warlock Numb 29 | 67634 | 1090.87 ranger 1 Nald 219 | 55572 | 677.71 MT Haun 8 | 52121 | 755.38 ranger 2 Kyri 0 | 49873 | 874.96 wizard 2 Monc 14 | 49342 | 836.31 ranger 3 Mara 22 | 41868 | 615.71 bruiser Arth 28 | 37806 | 619.77 paly 1 Haka 30 | 36466 | 513.61 paly 2 Kala 14 | 33981 | 522.78 zerker Jona 5 | 29739 | 495.65 dirge Avra 0 | 15833 | 239.89 illusionist Sand 0 | 15551 | 388.78 coercer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (01:54) 1437440 | 12609.12 [HH Illu-Fusion-16314] Illu 26 | 178115 | 1746.23 me Alle 115 | 164298 | 1595.13 conj Numb 42 | 126324 | 1302.31 ranger Trit 7 | 102357 | 1100.61 conj 2 Haun 10 | 94482 | 1005.13 ranger 2 Oben 23 | 92732 | 909.14 warlock Kyri 9 | 87773 | 964.54 wizard 2 Mara 26 | 76097 | 760.97 bruiser Nald 256 | 74595 | 666.03 MT Kala 26 | 69970 | 721.34 zerker Monc 12 | 63381 | 802.29 ranger 3 Arth 59 | 55281 | 516.64 paly Haka 40 | 51783 | 470.75 paly 2 Jona 22 | 51420 | 558.91 dirge Avra 0 | 13594 | 163.78 illusioinst Allies: (00:59) 743102 | 12594.95 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-16287] Illu 18 | 95566 | 1676.60 me Alle 4 | 71575 | 1350.47 conj Trit 33 | 63100 | 1168.52 conj 2 Numb 17 | 60737 | 1084.59 ranger Haun 8 | 55039 | 1146.65 ranger 2 Oben 10 | 48161 | 891.87 warlock Mara 22 | 46507 | 815.91 bruiser Haka 36 | 38733 | 679.53 paly Nald 72 | 35933 | 619.53 MT Kyri 8 | 35130 | 702.60 wizard 2 Monc 6 | 34887 | 1026.09 ranger 3 Kala 15 | 30800 | 540.35 zerker Arth 27 | 29547 | 547.17 paly 2 Jona 7 | 24723 | 484.76 dirge Avra 2 | 12208 | 230.34 illusionist Sand 0 | 10063 | 182.96 coercer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>***Essence of Fear***</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:50) 2303759 | 13551.52 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-18582] Illu 29 | 219352 | 1433.67 me Alle 10 | 198035 | 1185.84 conj Trit 10 | 186391 | 1187.20 conj 2 Numb 69 | 184807 | 1192.30 ranger Haun 23 | 154069 | 993.99 ranger 2 Nald 286 | 138240 | 822.86 MT Kyri 1 | 127701 | 880.70 wizard 2 Monc 16 | 116652 | 810.08 ranger 3 Sand 0 | 115222 | 768.15 coercer Mara 55 | 114296 | 728.00 bruiser Oben 20 | 114242 | 709.58 warlock Arth 110 | 114220 | 705.06 paly Haka 67 | 104204 | 631.54 paly 2 Kala 30 | 92142 | 575.89 zerker Jona 18 | 72822 | 463.83 dirge Avra 0 | 48300 | 311.61 illusioinist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:35) 1968498 | 12699.99 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-17633] Illu 27 | 238744 | 1624.11 me Numb 61 | 174806 | 1314.33 ranger Haun 20 | 156793 | 1119.95 ranger 2 Kyri 3 | 129151 | 956.67 wizard Oben 16 | 123285 | 833.01 warlock Trit 3 | 120284 | 884.44 conj Mara 49 | 117713 | 871.95 bruiser Arth 108 | 113306 | 851.92 paly Monc 21 | 109196 | 821.02 ranger 3 Nald 187 | 107380 | 697.27 MT Jona 27 | 84736 | 683.35 dirge Alle 25 | 84377 | 598.42 conj 2 Haka 36 | 65100 | 425.49 paly 2 Sand 5 | 61234 | 460.41 coercer Kala 33 | 57840 | 451.88 zerker Avra 0 | 47660 | 342.88 Illusionist ***Gnillaw the Demented***</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (05:34) 3566910 | 10679.37 [HH Moncreathe-Sniper Shot-15945] Illu 47 | 407485 | 1227.37 me Numb 137 | 342145 | 1089.63 ranger Haun 51 | 293189 | 916.22 ranger 2 Alle 76 | 288082 | 900.26 conj Oben 27 | 274012 | 853.62 warlock Nald 703 | 260609 | 784.97 MT Monc 47 | 257554 | 870.11 ranger 3 Trit 113 | 251134 | 787.25 conj 2 Kyri 0 | 196801 | 628.76 wizard 2 Sand 9 | 175749 | 556.17 coercer Kala 85 | 173987 | 543.71 zerker Mara 91 | 172511 | 544.20 bruiser Haka 81 | 107015 | 328.27 paly Arth 97 | 100602 | 307.65 paly 2 Jona 20 | 92556 | 289.24 dirge Avra 0 | 90052 | 285.88 illusionist</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (01:37) 1384628 | 14274.52 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-21293] Illu 24 | 163090 | 1812.11 me Alle 7 | 149645 | 1591.97 conj Trit 10 | 114798 | 1289.87 conj2 Kyri 3 | 107454 | 1413.87 wizard 2 Oben 11 | 105570 | 1123.09 warlock Haun 20 | 99097 | 1303.91 ranger Numb 23 | 90348 | 1143.65 ranger 2 Mara 26 | 80227 | 1015.53 bruiser Kala 23 | 76958 | 986.64 zerker Nald 172 | 70841 | 745.69 MT Haka 60 | 66835 | 696.20 paly Arth 51 | 47782 | 542.98 paly 2 Sand 0 | 47234 | 597.90 coercer Jona 26 | 45988 | 621.46 dirge Avra 0 | 28678 | 349.73 Illusioinst </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>***ZONE PARSE***</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (54:10) 33963240 | 10450.23 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-23369] Illu 443 | 4507592 | 1397.70 me Alle 809 | 3852564 | 1191.64 conj 1 Oben 478 | 2758574 | 855.37 warlock Haun 476 | 2681509 | 828.39 ranger Numb 865 | 2625324 | 864.45 ranger 2 Kyri 71 | 2492712 | 773.17 wizard 2 Nald 7030 | 2269446 | 698.51 MT Mara 944 | 1979904 | 612.40 bruiser Arth 1274 | 1390895 | 430.09 paly Trit 257 | 1380320 | 957.23 conj 2(who came in half way) Kala 549 | 1358802 | 420.16 zerker Haka 1128 | 1321415 | 435.54 paly Jona 461 | 1130846 | 351.09 dirge Avra 16 | 691304 | 213.23 Illusioinst Sand 48 | 683006 | 413.19 coercer Cadd 35 | 662241 | 478.50 guardian (who left half way)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Heres a graph of my damage in ACT:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/397/Lyceum%20Illu.bmp"></DIV>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-11-2006 11:49 PM

Jezekie

08-12-2006, 03:56 PM

Jezekie

08-12-2006, 04:12 PM

QQ-Fatman

08-12-2006, 04:38 PM

IllusiveThoughts

08-12-2006, 08:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jezekiell wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <DIV>**Reminder** I post personal DPS not EXT DPS, the raids dps on the first line is in EXT DPS, and its sorted by total dmg, not highest dps. **Reminder**</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Then, IMO, the DPS numbers means nothing as it doesn't show what your DPS truly is during any given encounter. <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> If you want to see what EXT dps is then divide the number of seconds in the encounter duration by my damage. Just because the DPS numbers mean "nothing" to you doesn't mean it's irrelivant to me. EXT dps is only good for showing who attacks before the dps call and trying to look good on a parser. In theory, if everyone attacks on the dps call, then showing everyone's dps from that point would be valid. For those who will always disagree with that you can as i mentioned earlier divide my total damage by the encounter duration and viola you have ext dps.

Kelkirra

08-12-2006, 09:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jezekiell wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <DIV>**Reminder** I post personal DPS not EXT DPS, the raids dps on the first line is in EXT DPS, and its sorted by total dmg, not highest dps. **Reminder**</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Then, IMO, the DPS numbers means nothing as it doesn't show what your DPS truly is during any given encounter. <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> If you want to see what EXT dps is then divide the number of seconds in the encounter duration by my damage. Just because the DPS numbers mean "nothing" to you doesn't mean it's irrelivant to me. EXT dps is only good for showing who attacks before the dps call and trying to look good on a parser. In theory, if everyone attacks on the dps call, then showing everyone's dps from that point would be valid. For those who will always disagree with that you can as i mentioned earlier divide my total damage by the encounter duration and viola you have ext dps. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> /shrug I see nothing wrong with the personal DPS. These numbers are shown at our raids due to ppl not listening to DPS calls beforehand because someone WAS showing EXT DPS. Ppl would attack before the calls were made and cause wipes. Besides, the only person in our raids that is really doing any damage to the mob for the first 5-7 seconds while everyone is following the debuff call before the DPS call is myself. If it really means anything to you, the only true disparity between the EXT DPS and personal DPS during our raids is between 5 and 10 seconds at max. =D Continue though guys, I'm liking the info posted so far. O_O

Jezekie

08-13-2006, 05:13 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Jezekiell wrote: <div></div> <div> <blockquote> <hr> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <div></div> <div>**Reminder** I post personal DPS not EXT DPS, the raids dps on the first line is in EXT DPS, and its sorted by total dmg, not highest dps. **Reminder**</div> <hr> </blockquote>Then, IMO, the DPS numbers means nothing as it doesn't show what your DPS truly is during any given encounter. <blockquote> </blockquote></div> <hr> </blockquote> If you want to see what EXT dps is then divide the number of seconds in the encounter duration by my damage. Just because the DPS numbers mean "nothing" to you doesn't mean it's irrelivant to me. EXT dps is only good for showing who attacks before the dps call and trying to look good on a parser. In theory, if everyone attacks on the dps call, then showing everyone's dps from that point would be valid. For those who will always disagree with that you can as i mentioned earlier divide my total damage by the encounter duration and viola you have ext dps.<hr></blockquote>I'd like to think that our (Nexus) guild does just that, and that they strive to better them selfs as well as following orders to the point where they don't go unloading before the mobs are on the MT/Debuffed. Experinces with raids may vary from guild to guild, server to server though and others may experience players that cause pingpong early on, but we don't. For us the timer starts when the MT pulls, and people should be doing DPS shortly after, that's why I use Extended DPS as it calculates the DPS any given player does from the beginning of the encounter, ie. when the MT pulls and until the target dies. Otherwise we end up with parses where someone could cast a high damage attack(s) at the end of an encounter and do high DPS but little damage, and then the DPS is rendered useless to me. As I said, I find non-extended DPS gives inaccurate results, regardless of wheter the parses is listed by total damage done. Is it perfect? No, but it works for us. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-13-2006, 12:11 PM

***edited**** double posted somehow ***edited***Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-13-2006 01:42 AM

IllusiveThoughts

08-13-2006, 12:11 PM

Here's labs today: BUFFS: Had amends + harmonious link + vim + 35 self buffed flowing thought (no in combat regen group buffs) MT had a coercer for hate gain. The slavering azlid Allies: (02:12) 1533996 | 11621.18 [HH Illu-Fusion-22470] Illu 7 | 218406 | 1805.01 ME Numb 36 | 135176 | 1217.80 RANGER Oben 18 | 133050 | 1198.65 WARLOCK Haun 28 | 123830 | 1067.50 RANGER 2 Acce 15 | 104948 | 874.57 NECRO (2boxing) Mara 38 | 95072 | 772.94 BRUISER Monc 21 | 86792 | 933.25 RANGER 3 Haka 83 | 86659 | 682.35 PALY Trit 78 | 82765 | 726.01 CONJ Kala 4 | 70546 | 613.44 ZERKER Band 18 | 69521 | 565.21 ZERKER Vinh 24 | 61806 | 882.94 MONK Squi 55 | 56267 | 446.56 PALY 2 Cadd 2 | 55711 | 431.87 GUARD mt Kiko 12 | 47042 | 379.37 DIRGE ***PARDAS PREDD*** (including the adds) Allies: (01:5<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1231808 | 10439.05 [HH Illu-Fusion-12712] Illu 7 | 132930 | 1155.91 ME Acce 28 | 115147 | 1163.10 NECRO(2 boxing healer) Numb 33 | 98206 | 1012.43 RANGER 1 Haun 26 | 95235 | 952.35 RANGER 2 Trit 12 | 93265 | 932.65 CONJ Vinh 41 | 87564 | 850.14 MONK Mara 25 | 73113 | 664.66 BRUISER Monc 10 | 69071 | 719.49 RANGER 3 Band 10 | 67512 | 597.45 ZERKER Oben 4 | 61636 | 669.96 WARLOCK Haka 49 | 51019 | 447.54 PALY Cadd 3 | 49710 | 432.26 GUARD mt Squi 33 | 49270 | 456.20 PALY 2 Kiko 12 | 34895 | 342.11 DIRGE Sand 2 | 34367 | 350.68 COERCER Kala 0 | 32767 | 337.80 ZERKER ***DOOM REAVER CHEYAK***(had agro bouncing issues the fight duration) Allies: (02:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1183853 | 7999.01 [HH Illu-Fusion-13245] Illu 13 | 159768 | 1094.30 ME Trit 77 | 111026 | 917.57 CONJ Oben 21 | 110876 | 908.82 WARLOCK Haun 19 | 102407 | 846.34 RANGER Mara 23 | 85263 | 636.29 BRUISER Band 20 | 82130 | 608.37 ZERKER Monc 9 | 67845 | 634.07 RANGER 2 Sand 1 | 66075 | 532.86 COERCER Numb 32 | 62877 | 542.04 RANGER 3 Vinh 36 | 61309 | 502.53 MONK Cadd 1 | 56537 | 387.24 GUARD mt Kala 3 | 50557 | 385.93 ZERKER Squi 51 | 42455 | 307.64 PALY Acce 1 | 42147 | 533.51 NECRO (2boxing) Haka 17 | 26757 | 183.27 PALY 2 ***UNCAGED AZLID*** (spent some time being feared) Allies: (02:55) 1458986 | 8337.06 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-13942] Illu 17 | 175519 | 1026.43 ME Numb 42 | 124227 | 833.74 RANGER Haun 29 | 115798 | 809.78 RANGER 2 Monc 18 | 108601 | 754.17 RANGER 3 Vinh 57 | 101321 | 671.00 MONK Band 14 | 89994 | 538.89 ZERKER Haka 72 | 82024 | 476.88 PALY Mara 42 | 82019 | 532.59 BRUISER Oben 6 | 77413 | 469.17 WARLOCK Acce 30 | 74999 | 468.74 NECRO (still 2 boxing) Sand 2 | 73011 | 483.52 COERCER Cadd 2 | 68231 | 396.69 GUARD mt Squi 67 | 64710 | 409.56 PALY 2 Kala 15 | 61304 | 364.90 ZERKER Trit 28 | 56688 | 368.10 CONJ Kiko 18 | 27414 | 360.71 DIRGE ***UUSTALASTUS XITERRAX*** Allies: (02:42) 933071 | 5759.70 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-13127] Illu 14 | 175325 | 1138.47 ME Acce 41 | 158687 | 1050.91 NECRO (still 2 boxing) Oben 23 | 67036 | 438.14 WARLOCK Trit 43 | 66322 | 506.27 CONJ Sand 6 | 55478 | 466.20 COERCER Numb 47 | 49449 | 327.48 RANGER Haun 41 | 43067 | 290.99 RANGER 2 Haka 43 | 39679 | 264.53 PALY Squi 68 | 38261 | 287.68 PALY 2 Vinh 66 | 31616 | 222.65 MONK Cadd 5 | 30810 | 193.77 GUARD MT Band 12 | 27419 | 187.80 ZERKER Kiko 19 | 23392 | 187.14 DIRGE Kala 3 | 20664 | 146.55 ZERKER Mara 32 | 19017 | 130.25 BRUISER Monc 7 | 17586 | 189.10 RANGER 3 ***DOOMSWORN ZATRAKH*** Allies: (03:15) 1394161 | 7149.54 [HH Illu-Fusion-14649] Illu 21 | 179705 | 976.66 ME Haun 44 | 150061 | 847.80 RANGER Numb 49 | 147898 | 864.90 RANGER 2 Oben 6 | 107285 | 586.26 WARLOCK Vinh 49 | 102601 | 637.27 MONK Trit 79 | 93390 | 549.35 CONJ Mara 35 | 89096 | 486.86 BRUISER Band 19 | 77793 | 434.60 ZERKER Sand 1 | 75175 | 442.21 COERCER Cadd 3 | 64273 | 336.51 GUARD MT Kala 9 | 61644 | 324.44 ZERKER Acce 2 | 59826 | 424.30 NECRO (still 2 boxing) Haka 46 | 44408 | 237.48 PALY Squi 46 | 39228 | 209.78 PALY 2 Kiko 13 | 22516 | 127.21 DIRGE Monc 1 | 10470 | 805.38 RANGER 3 ***THE CORSOLANDER***(i still had no incombat regen and think 774 dps for a 5 min fight aint bad) Allies: (04:5<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1288126 | 4322.57 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-15897] Illu 16 | 226024 | 774.05 ME Haun 36 | 149697 | 580.22 RANGER Numb 72 | 147889 | 535.83 RANGER 2 Sand 6 | 99942 | 370.16 COERCER Oben 15 | 94786 | 345.93 WARLOCK Monc 24 | 92951 | 550.01 RANGER 3 Acce 10 | 70095 | 287.27 NECRO Trit 7 | 56989 | 200.67 CONJ Kala 9 | 55320 | 192.75 ZERKER Squi 32 | 53119 | 185.08 PALY Band 9 | 44780 | 159.93 ZERKER 2 Kiko 8 | 44708 | 164.97 DIRGE Haka 35 | 43838 | 156.56 PALY 2 Mara 2 | 19320 | 87.82 BRUISER Cadd 0 | 17964 | 61.10 GUARD mt Vinh 9 | 14991 | 61.69 MONK ***EUKTZKAI AMDAATK*** Allies: (01:1<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 892703 | 11444.91 [HH Illu-Fusion-16421] Illu 7 | 119259 | 1679.70 ME Acce 14 | 83813 | 1132.61 NECRO (still 2 boxing) Trit 28 | 79142 | 1217.57 CONJ Vinh 47 | 74323 | 1046.80 MONK Numb 12 | 71670 | 1235.69 RANGER Oben 18 | 71063 | 1093.28 WARLOCK Mara 30 | 59505 | 838.10 BRUISER Monc 2 | 42673 | 836.73 RANGER 2 Band 1 | 40491 | 554.67 ZERKER Kala 9 | 37777 | 524.68 ZERKER Cadd 0 | 35518 | 461.27 GUARD MT Haka 27 | 31768 | 441.22 PALY Squi 26 | 29890 | 474.44 PALY 2 Kiko 12 | 27520 | 404.71 DIRGE Sand 3 | 26923 | 480.77 COERCER ***LORD VYEMM*** Allies: (04:44) 1369399 | 4821.83 [HH Illu-Fusion-9697] Illu 1 | 173380 | 628.19 ME Trit 62 | 154040 | 592.46 CONJ Haun 23 | 133656 | 487.80 RANGER Oben 21 | 102724 | 389.11 WARLOCK Numb 15 | 100001 | 371.75 RANGER 2 Band 21 | 89957 | 392.83 ZERKER Cadd 16 | 84967 | 302.37 GUARD MT Squi 54 | 71707 | 264.60 PALY Haka 68 | 67452 | 242.63 PALY 2 Monc 20 | 66597 | 331.33 RANGER 3 Vinh 39 | 60125 | 280.96 MONK Kala 0 | 52388 | 222.93 ZERKER Mara 22 | 46116 | 201.38 BRUISER Kiko 14 | 35624 | 235.92 DIRGE Sand 0 | 16240 | 83.71 COERCER Acce 1 | 8582 | 136.22 NECRO ***ALZID PRIME*** Allies: (01:29) 953468 | 10713.12 [HH Haun-Sniper Shot-10079] Illu 3 | 100835 | 1276.39 ME Trit 52 | 99536 | 1345.08 CONJ Acce 7 | 82022 | 1708.79 NECRO Haun 7 | 66244 | 1142.14 RANGER Mara 18 | 63238 | 866.27 BRUISER Band 9 | 58990 | 808.08 ZERKER Numb 10 | 57302 | 855.25 RANGER 2 Vinh 23 | 55901 | 834.34 MONK Haka 61 | 51927 | 641.07 PALY Oben 4 | 42963 | 580.58 WARLOCK Sand 0 | 37467 | 657.32 COERCER Kala 7 | 35996 | 506.99 ZERKER 2 Cadd 17 | 29743 | 341.87 GUARD MT Squi 11 | 27747 | 380.10 PALY 2 Monc 4 | 26600 | 443.33 RANGER 3 Kiko 15 | 22653 | 323.61 DIRGE *****ZONE PARSE***** Allies: (01:01:34) 33278672 | 9008.85 [HH Illu-Fusion-22470] Illu 229 | 4415054 | 1200.40 ME Numb 978 | 2655226 | 722.31 RANGER Haun 665 | 2608539 | 710.77 RANGER 2 Oben 332 | 2375536 | 647.81 WARLOCK Acce 481 | 2237505 | 609.34 NECRO (2 boxed healer) Trit 613 | 2168026 | 589.30 CONJ Band 417 | 2006762 | 544.87 ZERKER Vinh 1184 | 1946951 | 529.49 MONK Mara 795 | 1825233 | 496.12 BRUISER Monc 385 | 1725225 | 475.66 RANGER 3 Haka 1209 | 1337634 | 362.99 PALY Kala 218 | 1331134 | 362.31 ZERKER 2 Cadd 99 | 1272778 | 345.02 GUARD MT Squi 1156 | 1260339 | 342.11 PALY 2 Sand 69 | 1210991 | 330.15 COERCER Kiko 318 | 724851 | 196.70 DIRGE Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-13-2006 01:28 AM

08-13-2006, 02:05 PM

<blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<div><blockquote> <hr></blockquote>I'd like to think that our (Nexus) guild does just that, and that they strive to better them selfs as well as following orders to the point where they don't go unloading before the mobs are on the MT/Debuffed. Experinces with raids may vary from guild to guild, server to server though and others may experience players that cause pingpong early on, but we don't. For us the timer starts when the MT pulls, and people should be doing DPS shortly after, that's why I use Extended DPS as it calculates the DPS any given player does from the beginning of the encounter, ie. when the MT pulls and until the target dies. Otherwise we end up with parses where someone could cast a high damage attack(s) at the end of an encounter and do high DPS but little damage, and then the DPS is rendered useless to me. As I said, I find non-extended DPS gives inaccurate results, regardless of wheter the parses is listed by total damage done. Is it perfect? No, but it works for us. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>DPS rather than external DPS means that people WILL wait for the calls, as their DPS is not bettered by attacking early, its easy to see who is slacking by just dropping HHs because you also post their total Damage Output as well as DPS.... Personally I hate ext dps because if the mob is difficult to position, or the pull is bad, it gives an unfair advantage to those who essentially dont have possitional attacks.. it also gives people something to aim at that is constant (as it is from their first cast, rather than from the mt's first taunt, and therefore is not extended by several seconds while positioning etc takes place) I just think that ext dps gives people a reason to attack early (something that is happening a lot atm in my guild) because everyone is so parse crazy as being able to raid is very dependant on what you parse (and ext dps is what is being posted more often than not) <div></div>

HerzenFunia

08-13-2006, 07:45 PM

goboy

08-14-2006, 03:51 PM

<DIV>You know, reading this thread does reduce some of my confusion on other parses I have seen scattered about. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It would be helpful if people identify in their post if they are using extDPS or DPS. I normally parse on extDPS and probably will not change. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BTW, here is something I noticied last night. Depending upon how far you are from the action, you may or may not get everyone's damage numbers. I would assume someone right next to the mob (i.e. tank) would get everything in their log. Mine was missing damage when I was at max range and people were on the other side of the mob from me.</DIV>

Falcogen

08-14-2006, 05:04 PM

<DIV>So just a thought what is the point in these parses? Its just a list of numbers. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hopefullly Calaglin will post our Lyceum run here, I had amends and nothing else, Calaglin showed me no synergism love :smileymad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am testing Wis,Agi previously used Str,Wis to me all these parses show is how inferior the rest of the raids dps is as Wizards aren't the best dps class, high but not the best. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think Rumil summed it up the best "keep doing 1k+ parses". </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Pins

08-14-2006, 05:17 PM

Tonight! and you had de-aggro so, I was giving myself de-aggro and Xede I think, along with hastes so not enough concentration slots :

IllusiveThoughts

08-14-2006, 06:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShaneFalco wrote: <DIV>So just a thought what is the point in these parses? Its just a list of numbers. </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> bingo. If you read my first post I explained why I thought it would be good to have the thread.

Azmoran

08-14-2006, 06:34 PM

I've got a few things to say but gonna keep my mouth shut till I can toss up parses and put my money where my mouth is. But so far looking at total damage done I'm unimpressed by some of the other classes and there numbers, I swear the people I play with do much more. =p But it's a great and interesting thread. I hope to add some info from my experience but....... I'm having a problem. We did labs last night but I couldn't get the parser to end correctly. I had to manual end it. I have it on the "You gain experience" and "You gain experience for defeating the encounter" but it still won't end right. I think I do have it set in my chat windows not to show exp gain messages, cause I never see them. But that shouldn't effect the parser since everything should still go to log file right? If I can figure it out, then next week I will post some Labs runs as I see em done. =p I'm using the Advanced Combat Tracker which I'm assuming you all use too.

Falcogen

08-14-2006, 07:45 PM

<blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:Tonight! and you had de-aggro so, I was giving myself de-aggro and Xede I think, along with hastes so not enough concentration slots :<hr></blockquote> Hehe i'd be happy with just amends every raid so no worries either way raid dps was pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] hot last night so it all worked out nice.

IllusiveThoughts

08-14-2006, 07:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Azmoran wrote: I've got a few things to say but gonna keep my mouth shut till I can toss up parses and put my money where my mouth is. But so far looking at total damage done I'm unimpressed by some of the other classes and there numbers, I swear the people I play with do much more. =p But it's a great and interesting thread. I hope to add some info from my experience but....... I'm having a problem. We did labs last night but I couldn't get the parser to end correctly. I had to manual end it. I have it on the "You gain experience" and "You gain experience for defeating the encounter" but it still won't end right. I think I do have it set in my chat windows not to show exp gain messages, cause I never see them. But that shouldn't effect the parser since everything should still go to log file right? If I can figure it out, then next week I will post some Labs runs as I see em done. =p I'm using the Advanced Combat Tracker which I'm assuming you all use too. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> my hope is that this thread doesn't get de-railed by flaming other classes on the parse listings. Remember this is a wizard parse thread, so lets try to keep the criticizm pointed in that direction. I usually have act set up to end combat on "you gain bonus experience for defeating the encounter" and also "end combat after 2 seconds" that seems to work best for me. occasionally when adds are mezzed or charmed i have to merge the fights because the parser ends combat before the raid switches to the mezzed mob or the coercer breaks his / her charm.

Jezekie

08-14-2006, 07:59 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>Azmoran wrote:<div></div> I've got a few things to say but gonna keep my mouth shut till I can toss up parses and put my money where my mouth is. But so far looking at total damage done I'm unimpressed by some of the other classes and there numbers, I swear the people I play with do much more. =p But it's a great and interesting thread. I hope to add some info from my experience but....... I'm having a problem. We did labs last night but I couldn't get the parser to end correctly. I had to manual end it. I have it on the "You gain experience" and "You gain experience for defeating the encounter" but it still won't end right. I think I do have it set in my chat windows not to show exp gain messages, cause I never see them. But that shouldn't effect the parser since everything should still go to log file right? If I can figure it out, then next week I will post some Labs runs as I see em done. =p I'm using the Advanced Combat Tracker which I'm assuming you all use too.<hr></blockquote>If you're lvl 70, set combat to end after 2-3 seconds.</div>

Jezekie

08-14-2006, 08:01 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>ShaneFalco wrote:<div>I am testing Wis,Agi previously used Str,Wis to me all these parses show is how inferior the rest of the raids dps is as Wizards aren't the best dps class, high but not the best. </div> <div> </div> <div>I think Rumil summed it up the best "keep doing 1k+ parses". </div> <div> </div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>I think that's the general consensus around here, it'd just be nice to have some solid evidence so that we may direct some attention towards a class that doesn't preform near what it should be, IMO.Let us know how the WIS/AGI setup preforms compared to STR/WIS.</div>

SmEaGoLLuM

08-15-2006, 12:16 AM

<div></div><div></div><div></div>Not gonna say anything about the numbers except for the overall low raid dps numbers for Labs and some other instances, not even breaking 10k, especially zones like Lyceum. I see some 8k, 5ks and 4ks there. What gives? You got 15 people in the raid? This is not a flame but your overall raid dps is extremely low.<div></div>Message Edited by SmEaGoLLuM86 on 08-15-2006 07:23 AM

Azmoran

08-15-2006, 01:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Azmoran wrote: I've got a few things to say but gonna keep my mouth shut till I can toss up parses and put my money where my mouth is. But so far looking at total damage done I'm unimpressed by some of the other classes and there numbers, I swear the people I play with do much more. =p But it's a great and interesting thread. I hope to add some info from my experience but....... I'm having a problem. We did labs last night but I couldn't get the parser to end correctly. I had to manual end it. I have it on the "You gain experience" and "You gain experience for defeating the encounter" but it still won't end right. I think I do have it set in my chat windows not to show exp gain messages, cause I never see them. But that shouldn't effect the parser since everything should still go to log file right? If I can figure it out, then next week I will post some Labs runs as I see em done. =p I'm using the Advanced Combat Tracker which I'm assuming you all use too. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> my hope is that this thread doesn't get de-railed by flaming other classes on the parse listings. Remember this is a wizard parse thread, so lets try to keep the criticizm pointed in that direction. I usually have act set up to end combat on "you gain bonus experience for defeating the encounter" and also "end combat after 2 seconds" that seems to work best for me. occasionally when adds are mezzed or charmed i have to merge the fights because the parser ends combat before the raid switches to the mezzed mob or the coercer breaks his / her charm. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> By posting other classes you are indeed comparing yourself to how a Wizard (you) measure up in a raid agains the others. But my point isn't to get into a oh look at what soand so class can do thing. But if the other classes in the raid are slacking it just makes you look better then it really should. Like the other poster pointed out, your raid wide DPS appears to be a bit low. Implying the other classes aren't measuring up. The way I see it, you are doing way more damage then you should. Because the mob should have been dead sooner. =p What I'm looking at more then DPS is total damage done. I know its kinda the same thing, but sometimes when comparing just "DPS" some people calculate it and may fudge the numbers. Where total dmg done is pretty straightforward. And thanks guys will make the changes to my parser and hopefully have some Parses on monday to show what I mean.

Pins

08-15-2006, 01:15 AM

<DIV>Lyceum as falco wanted, from last night:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (39:07) 46678501 | 19888.58 [Skratch-Decapitate-28970] Nooch 4334622 | 1846.88 Necro Ishbu 4300641 | 1832.40 Conj Kobal 3346974 | 1426.07 Berserker Falcogen 3306949 | 1409.01 Wizard Skratch 3179944 | 1354.90 Assassin Flauros 3146484 | 1340.64 Necro Xede 3030987 | 1291.43 Warlock Zaphear 2921119 | 1244.62 Brigand Tigruz 2802740 | 1194.18 Necro Calaglin 2604869 | 1109.87 Illusionist Tangarth 2554535 | 1088.43 Brigand Xelus 1672580 | 712.65 Coercer Morphling 1663687 | 708.86 Guardian Dragorn 1632458 | 695.55 Bruiser Angua 1609188 | 685.64 Troubador Itoock 1218296 | 519.09 Paladin</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I removed 7 people below 500 dps, as who cares about them! Anyway as Falco said I was a mean person and didn't give him Synergism, and instead gave it to Xede, and did not have it on any other mage. Kobal was the tank for everything but Vilucdae.</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

08-15-2006, 01:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pinski wrote: <DIV>Lyceum as falco wanted, from last night:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (39:07) 46678501 | 19888.58 [Skratch-Decapitate-28970] Nooch 4334622 | 1846.88 Necro Ishbu 4300641 | 1832.40 Conj Kobal 3346974 | 1426.07 Berserker Falcogen 3306949 | 1409.01 Wizard Skratch 3179944 | 1354.90 Assassin Flauros 3146484 | 1340.64 Necro Xede 3030987 | 1291.43 Warlock Zaphear 2921119 | 1244.62 Brigand Tigruz 2802740 | 1194.18 Necro Calaglin 2604869 | 1109.87 Illusionist Tangarth 2554535 | 1088.43 Brigand Xelus 1672580 | 712.65 Coercer Morphling 1663687 | 708.86 Guardian Dragorn 1632458 | 695.55 Bruiser Angua 1609188 | 685.64 Troubador Itoock 1218296 | 519.09 Paladin</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I removed 7 people below 500 dps, as who cares about them! Anyway as Falco said I was a mean person and didn't give him Synergism, and instead gave it to Xede, and did not have it on any other mage. Kobal was the tank for everything but Vilucdae.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nice job falco, you mentioned you had only amends. Did you have any in-combat regen ? (self buffed or group buffed) Oh and for this raid did you already swap to wis + agi, or were you still doing str + wis and finally (did you ever get the agro on the paly trying that combo I suggested?)

vindiesel4

08-15-2006, 09:08 PM

<DIV> A wizard that number 1 on 95 percents of the parse is either cut and parse his own parse or his raid suck. </DIV>

Falcogen

08-15-2006, 09:10 PM

<DIV>Yes i had amends, group was myself wizard,paladin,illusionist (no synergism) mystic,guardian(no moderate) and assassin or brigand (can't remember)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>was using agi 44448 and wis 44458 and deaggro pet also had crit potion up most of the run with a couple of jesters.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for a trick to get aggro on the paladin i think he only got aggro once and that was from fusion pretty much on the pull.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

08-15-2006, 10:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vindiesel439 wrote: <DIV> A wizard that number 1 on 95 percents of the parse is either cut and parse his own parse or his raid suck. </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> thanks for your contribution to the thread, I look forward to seeing some parses from you.

IllusiveThoughts

08-15-2006, 10:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShaneFalco wrote: <DIV>Yes i had amends, group was myself wizard,paladin,illusionist (no synergism) mystic,guardian(no moderate) and assassin or brigand (can't remember)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>was using agi 44448 and wis 44458 and deaggro pet also had crit potion up most of the run with a couple of jesters.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for a trick to get aggro on the paladin i think he only got aggro once and that was from fusion pretty much on the pull.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> hmm. I dont see many wizards taking the final ability in the two lines. I'm interested in how the two compare for you. Looking forward to seeing more parses with that aa set up.

Fizzyhawk

08-17-2006, 12:52 AM

Hello all, and first thanks for the thread, I appreciate the work to post up the parses. I've been raiding for a while, and typically I'm handicapped because of the classes in our guild available to raid, I very rarely have a troub in the group, and the MT group very rarely has dirge/assassin/coercer or any of the other hate buff setups typically used. Usually I'm dealing with Amends (at best) and often just Moderate. That's it. In these situations, I typically land in the 850-900 dps range (ext dps). The (very) few times when I've enjoyed both troub and amends, I hit 1200 dps consistently in a lyceum raid, but hate gain in the MT group was still not nearly what it could have been. So on to my question--I see so many of you using Fusion--it's often your high hit. I almost never use Fusion in raid. If I do, I try to slip it in right before the mob dies. I've seen a few comments on people using Fusion right off the pull--how do you do this and not die? Even if you use concussive first, this will only work on one of the mobs--seems the other two if you land it on them will come running. I'm looking for some explanation of A) when you use Fusion in raid encounters, and B) how you avoid pulling aggro when you do it. In an attempt to contribute further, I'll mention that I am STR 4-4-4-8-8 and WIS 4-5-4-8. My highest hit with this setup is 21K on an ice nova, and typically see 15K-18K on most shots. Again, I use Fusion so rarely as to say I never use it, and am looking for some pointers on how to useit in raids without dying. To address one line of thought I've seen, it is not acceptable to me to cast fusion for 50K dmg and die in the process--I would rather not cast it than die trying. Thanks for any help, really appreciate it.

IllusiveThoughts

08-17-2006, 02:33 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fizzyhawk wrote: Hello all, and first thanks for the thread, I appreciate the work to post up the parses. I've been raiding for a while, and typically I'm handicapped because of the classes in our guild available to raid, I very rarely have a troub in the group, and the MT group very rarely has dirge/assassin/coercer or any of the other hate buff setups typically used. Usually I'm dealing with Amends (at best) and often just Moderate. That's it. In these situations, I typically land in the 850-900 dps range (ext dps). The (very) few times when I've enjoyed both troub and amends, I hit 1200 dps consistently in a lyceum raid, but hate gain in the MT group was still not nearly what it could have been. So on to my question--I see so many of you using Fusion--it's often your high hit. I almost never use Fusion in raid. If I do, I try to slip it in right before the mob dies. I've seen a few comments on people using Fusion right off the pull--how do you do this and not die? Even if you use concussive first, this will only work on one of the mobs--seems the other two if you land it on them will come running. I'm looking for some explanation of A) when you use Fusion in raid encounters, and B) how you avoid pulling aggro when you do it. In an attempt to contribute further, I'll mention that I am STR 4-4-4-8-8 and WIS 4-5-4-8. My highest hit with this setup is 21K on an ice nova, and typically see 15K-18K on most shots. Again, I use Fusion so rarely as to say I never use it, and am looking for some pointers on how to useit in raids without dying. To address one line of thought I've seen, it is not acceptable to me to cast fusion for 50K dmg and die in the process--I would rather not cast it than die trying. Thanks for any help, really appreciate it. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> those are respectable #'s given that your raid isn't optimized at all, so dont think too much on it. If thats the most you can do without pulling agro then your doing the best you can with the circumstances. as for fusion it generally takes this to use it about 10s into the pull. MT has at least a coercer or dirge for hate gain and you have at least a troubador + harmonious link + either amends or moderate. When you can do this combo (frigid gift - glacial winds- freehand fusion) once the mobs are in position and your in position to hit all 3 with fusion, you know your set up perfectly for hate reduction. Typically when I dont have that much support, and the MT always has at least a coercer and a dirge I save fusion on a 3 mob encounter until the first mob is nearly dead (try to time it as the kill shot) then by that time a good tank will have enough aoe hate built up that you wont peel agro. Its not optimal doing it this way, but it still increases your dps, and if you do happen to die (occasionally this will happen as a wizard ---ahh hell it happens all the time) you will still have contributed a significant amount of damage to the encounter and still parse high.

Kelkirra

08-17-2006, 03:05 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fizzyhawk wrote: Hello all, and first thanks for the thread, I appreciate the work to post up the parses. I've been raiding for a while, and typically I'm handicapped because of the classes in our guild available to raid, I very rarely have a troub in the group, and the MT group very rarely has dirge/assassin/coercer or any of the other hate buff setups typically used. Usually I'm dealing with Amends (at best) and often just Moderate. That's it. In these situations, I typically land in the 850-900 dps range (ext dps). The (very) few times when I've enjoyed both troub and amends, I hit 1200 dps consistently in a lyceum raid, but hate gain in the MT group was still not nearly what it could have been. So on to my question--I see so many of you using Fusion--it's often your high hit. I almost never use Fusion in raid. If I do, I try to slip it in right before the mob dies. I've seen a few comments on people using Fusion right off the pull--how do you do this and not die? Even if you use concussive first, this will only work on one of the mobs--seems the other two if you land it on them will come running. I'm looking for some explanation of A) when you use Fusion in raid encounters, and B) how you avoid pulling aggro when you do it. In an attempt to contribute further, I'll mention that I am STR 4-4-4-8-8 and WIS 4-5-4-8. My highest hit with this setup is 21K on an ice nova, and typically see 15K-18K on most shots. Again, I use Fusion so rarely as to say I never use it, and am looking for some pointers on how to useit in raids without dying. To address one line of thought I've seen, it is not acceptable to me to cast fusion for 50K dmg and die in the process--I would rather not cast it than die trying. Thanks for any help, really appreciate it. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> those are respectable #'s given that your raid isn't optimized at all, so dont think too much on it. If thats the most you can do without pulling agro then your doing the best you can with the circumstances. as for fusion it generally takes this to use it about 10s into the pull. MT has at least a coercer or dirge for hate gain and you have at least a troubador + harmonious link + either amends or moderate. When you can do this combo (frigid gift - glacial winds- freehand fusion) once the mobs are in position and your in position to hit all 3 with fusion, you know your set up perfectly for hate reduction. Typically when I dont have that much support, and the MT always has at least a coercer and a dirge I save fusion on a 3 mob encounter until the first mob is nearly dead (try to time it as the kill shot) then by that time a good tank will have enough aoe hate built up that you wont peel agro. Its not optimal doing it this way, but it still increases your dps, and if you do happen to die (occasionally this will happen as a wizard ---ahh hell it happens all the time) you will still have contributed a significant amount of damage to the encounter and still parse high. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> When I say "Let the button mashing ensue" this guy takes it to heart. O_O

Senliten

08-17-2006, 02:17 PM

Now is the thread strictly for Raid Parse or is it solo parse as well... Also mind spillig the dirt where you got that parser. Am using eqcompanion and i cant get the charts into a sutiable posting format :smileysad:<div></div>

goboy

08-17-2006, 03:37 PM

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Senliten wrote: Now is the thread strictly for Raid Parse or is it solo parse as well... Also mind spillig the dirt where you got that parser. Am using eqcompanion and i cant get the charts into a sutiable posting format :smileysad: <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I liked eqcompanion - but it was too long w/o updates. I believe that is the output from Advanced Combat Tracker. ACT is actually better (IMHO) then eqcompanion. I like the flexibility - it did take me a week or two to warmp up to it though.</DIV>

ailees

08-17-2006, 05:31 PM

<div></div>for <a href="../view_profile?user.id=182940" target="_blank">Fizzyhawk</a> : IT's answer is exactly what I would also say.In raids, I very often have amend only 1/2 times.Then I die 10 times a raid, my record being 17 I think.I cast FUSION when I think I won't get aggro, and it generally works. Of course, I learnt it the hard way.On a group of three, I wait for one mob to be very low, as IT already said.If you did not read my testings already, I parsed a lot some raids, trying to increase my damages, and I succeeded (I worked that in may, allways in labs, comparing my damages with my fellow wizz ones. (http://www.galinou.fr/tmp/wizard.html) I did not parse labs in july, but I will soon do another, because discutting with some wizzies here, I have some ideas.one new example in Harla-dar (where we fight mob in packet, but they ain't grouped, then Glacial Wind is not very good :http://www.galinou.fr/tmp/arla-dar.htmnext parse tonight if I don't forget.<div></div>

meedni

08-17-2006, 06:03 PM

Did HoS tonight and only buffs I had on me was the Harmonious Link from the Coercer and the guardian decrease hate one. We were missing a few of our key regular raiders ie Illusionist and Troubie so i had no mana regen and Synergism what so ever (which made it tough and annoyed the summoners <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) Also had 32 FT self buffed. So here's the total raid DPS/DMG anyways (not showing anyone under 500) and it's also EXTDPS (cbf changing it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)Allies: (01:06:59) 50543730 | 12576.20 [Meednite-Fusion-29295]Meednite 4381438 | 1093.99 (wizzy)Bakau 4051439 | 1012.61 (assassin)Bonesplitta 3981304 | 1017.20 (zerker MT)Odaan 3678761 | 921.76 (brigand)Ogashee 3403484 | 850.66 (necro)Megic 3293376 | 822.73 (conj)Kysta 2978358 | 745.15 (necro)Vexlan 2595312 | 650.29 (zerker)Eors 2156720 | 552.01 (SK)Banin 2018569 | 503.26 (zerker)AA setup is STR 4/4/4/5/8 WIS 4/8/4/8/0<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-17-2006, 06:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Senliten wrote: Now is the thread strictly for Raid Parse or is it solo parse as well... Also mind spillig the dirt where you got that parser. Am using eqcompanion and i cant get the charts into a sutiable posting format :smileysad: <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> you could post group parses and solo parses, but if you do I'd ask that you post an entire day spent either soloing or grouping, because parses vary so much from one heroic to the next. At least that way you can show some consistency. I know my solo heroic named dps is pretty pitiful, people think we kill named so fast but in reality it takes a good 2-5 minutes to take them down. I used to log zone files from halls of fate, blackscale, and den, since theres a good chunk of encounters in there, but they varied so much depending on group make up and how much I felt like tanking that I never bothered to worry too much about them. In otherwords some times i'd get 700ish for a zone wide parse in hof, and othertimes i'd get 12-1400. Where on raids i'm usually at the very least 1k zone parse (even with only harmonious link as hate reduction) So i came to the conclusion that raid parses are good for showing a classes max potential with 23 other people assisting with killing a mob.

HerzenFunia

08-17-2006, 08:20 PM

IllusiveThoughts

08-17-2006, 10:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: <DIV>my aa setup is agi 44458 and wis 44448. Ah also all parses in ext dps.</DIV> <DIV>this is our hos run. I was in grp with troub, so deagro from troub and I think vim from fury. MT with dirge in grp.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (57:44) 45094345 | 13018.00 Fomka (me) 4308488 | 1243.79 Assassin 3779341 | 1091.03 Necro 3684730 | 1063.72 Assassin 3359697 | 969.89 Brigand 3253916 | 939.35 Brigand 3140248 | 906.54 Warlock 3031536 | 875.15 Brigand 2932571 | 846.59 Conj 2908803 | 839.72 Zerker (mt) 2833798 | 818.07 Bruiser 2780694 | 802.74 </DIV> And this is Lyce run. I didnt have any buffs there so was like lonely semi dead wizard <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Also there were some alts... (52:59) 46879736 | 14746.69 Assassin 4271130 | 1343.55 Necro 3753393 | 1180.68 Zerker (mt) 3613890 | 1136.80 Swash 3610678 | 1135.79 Fomka (me) 3433794 | 1080.15 Ranger 3099669 | 975.05 Conj 3031426 | 953.58 Brigand 3006022 | 945.59 Bruiser 2744881 | 863.44 Illusionist 1948844 | 613.04 Dirge 1796947 | 565.26 Dirge 1701914 | 535.36 <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nice work, thats a good solid zone parse with just a troubador, and a dirge in the mt group. The other one is close to 1100 zone dps, wich is also very good for 0 support, extremly good I would even say. Something to shoot for for other wizards who raid with out any hate reduction.(death is o plenty, but the zone parse shows you did your fair share even though you took a couple for the team)

Zyphius

08-17-2006, 11:05 PM

Illusive, I still don't see how you get such high consistent DPS. I RARELY hit those numbers and I run full burn most of the time TRYING to!In groups, I typically run from 600-900 extDPS, and occasionally hit the low 1k's. On VERY rare occasions I might hit up to 2k.On raids, I typically hit the high hundreds and, sometimes, low 1k. I don't think I have ever come close to 2k on a raid. A lot, and I mean A LOT, of times I only hit mid hundreds on raids. All of these are "provided I don't die". I usually only wait long enough to make sure the tank isn't going down instantly before I unleash, and I run full burn from there on out. On a longer raid, where I have to constantly mana feed, I do utterly pitiful.

IllusiveThoughts

08-18-2006, 01:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> okay lets separate out this post a little <HR> putergod wrote: Illusive, I still don't see how you get such high consistent DPS. I RARELY hit those numbers and I run full burn most of the time TRYING to! <HR> Let's try to figure out whats different from me to you so we can establish what may be the cause. <HR> putergod wrote: In groups, I typically run from 600-900 extDPS, and occasionally hit the low 1k's. On VERY rare occasions I might hit up to 2k. <HR> In a group senario, if I parse say a zone like halls of fate, i can go anywhere from 700 zone dps to 12-1400 zone dps. it depends largely on my tank and the group make up, and how much I feel like using the nuke and run technique. (big nuke + numbing cold) So lets break it down by what groups are you usually in, (guild groups? pick up groups? friend groups?) and what classes are they typicall made up of (what tank, what healer, what support?) <HR> putergod wrote: On raids, I typically hit the high hundreds and, sometimes, low 1k. I don't think I have ever come close to 2k on a raid. A lot, and I mean A LOT, of times I only hit mid hundreds on raids. All of these are "provided I don't die". I usually only wait long enough to make sure the tank isn't going down instantly before I unleash, and I run full burn from there on out. On a longer raid, where I have to constantly mana feed, I do utterly pitiful. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Since this is a raid question, we can get a little bit more specifics. Are you at 50 aa's? (im using agi 4/4/4/8, and wis 4/8/8/<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> How many damage spell masters do you have? (I only have 9-fusion-bol-irradiate-glacial winds-icesheild-rending icicles-incapaciate-surging tempest-protoferno[m2] the rest are all adept 3) Are you referring to a zone wide parse, or a single fight parse, or a named mob parse? if so could you specify and if named which named parses? How long are you waiting before nuking your heart out? What kind of set up is the Main tank group? What kind of classes are you grouped with on the raid? What kind of cross raid buffs are you getting (if any?) What kind of gear do you have? (self buffed power pool size- self buffed flowing thought- self buffed Hit points?) [I have about 7100 self buffed power - 35 or so flowing thought - and 4600 hp] Any dmg spell proc items such as grizzlefazzles, invoker earing, sunchilds helm, bone clasped girdle, rings of supremecy, the wrist item from niazra(forgot name), fitzpitzles misty protector? [I have grizzlefazzles, bone clasped girdle, and invoker earing] When you do nuke your heart out do you ever pull agro? and if you did pull agro how did you?

Raidi Sovin'faile

08-18-2006, 02:07 AM

A lot of the DPS a wizard can do is just as much +Hate on the MT as it is -Hate on the wizard. So a wizard [Removed for Content] out with a pally/guardian, troub, coercer/illusionist buffs will still do miles more damage consistantly if the MT also has dirge, coercer, assassin hate transfer, hate proc'ing gear, etc. Not to mention the "on hostile spell" buffs being stacked up for additional damage. After that, it's all about learning timing and spell order. Getting the right AAs and using them with the right spells at the right time. Knowing when to full burn without pulling aggro. It's a lot of work getting consistantly high parses, and it takes the efforts of half the raid it seems. Hopefully, it's not just the wizard benefiting from this though, we should be seeing most DPSers hitting the high teens/2k+ with that much coordination.

IllusiveThoughts

08-18-2006, 02:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raidi Sovin'faile wrote: A lot of the DPS a wizard can do is just as much +Hate on the MT as it is -Hate on the wizard. So a wizard [Removed for Content] out with a pally/guardian, troub, coercer/illusionist buffs will still do miles more damage consistantly if the MT also has dirge, coercer, assassin hate transfer, hate proc'ing gear, etc. Not to mention the "on hostile spell" buffs being stacked up for additional damage. After that, it's all about learning timing and spell order. Getting the right AAs and using them with the right spells at the right time. Knowing when to full burn without pulling aggro. It's a lot of work getting consistantly high parses, and it takes the efforts of half the raid it seems. Hopefully, it's not just the wizard benefiting from this though, we should be seeing most DPSers hitting the high teens/2k+ with that much coordination. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> indeed, in addition to hate reduction on the wizard, hate gain on the MT allows the entire raid to perform at a higher level of dps without stealing agro.

Victicu

08-18-2006, 08:10 AM

<div></div>Just betrayed from warlock to wizard... this was my second raid as a wizard, i felt pretty good about it. Heres our top 10 zone parse from HoS tonite, didnt have a troub in group till we got to bloodbeast, no enchanters at the raid either. One of the brigands had to leave early, and the other is an alt, so their parses are a bit low. Our swash wasnt at the raid or he'd be up there too. I do loot and other stuff at raids, so that never helps my dps =)(01:19:46) 65104552 | 13603.12Assassin 6332636 | 1323.16Conj 6154594 | 1285.96Assassin 6091993 | 1272.88Ranger 5542852 | 1158.14Victicus(me) 5313943 | 1110.31Brigand 4250451 | 888.10Berserker 3182173 | 664.89Warlock 3105205 | 648.81Brigand 2873590 | 600.42Troub 2675819 | 559.09<div></div>Message Edited by Victicus7 on 08-17-2006 09:29 PM

Jezekie

08-18-2006, 01:55 PM

Zyphius

08-18-2006, 05:41 PM

<blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div><blockquote>okay lets separate out this post a little<hr>putergod wrote:Illusive, I still don't see how you get such high consistent DPS. I RARELY hit those numbers and I run full burn most of the time TRYING to!<hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:Let's try to figure out whats different from me to you so we can establish what may be the cause. <hr>putergod wrote:In groups, I typically run from 600-900 extDPS, and occasionally hit the low 1k's. On VERY rare occasions I might hit up to 2k.<hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:In a group senario, if I parse say a zone like halls of fate, i can go anywhere from 700 zone dps to 12-1400 zone dps. it depends largely on my tank and the group make up, and how much I feel like using the nuke and run technique. (big nuke + numbing cold)So lets break it down by what groups are you usually in, (guild groups? pick up groups? friend groups?) and what classes are they typicall made up of (what tank, what healer, what support?) <hr>Group makeup is usually Guild, and consists of a Paladin, Templar, myself, and varies between Gaurdian, Warlock, Monk, SKAmends is on me. I go all out full burn from pull and my extDPS varies so drastically. The other night I had many fights where I was down in the low hundreds and ranged all the way up to 1600 (two fights).<hr>putergod wrote:On raids, I typically hit the high hundreds and, sometimes, low 1k. I don't think I have ever come close to 2k on a raid. A lot, and I mean A LOT, of times I only hit mid hundreds on raids. All of these are "provided I don't die". I usually only wait long enough to make sure the tank isn't going down instantly before I unleash, and I run full burn from there on out. On a longer raid, where I have to constantly mana feed, I do utterly pitiful.<hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</blockquote>Since this is a raid question, we can get a little bit more specifics.Are you at 50 aa's? (im using agi 4/4/4/8, and wis 4/8/8/<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Nope, 28. Not sure "exactly" what my makeup is (not at home), but I have gone down the Agility line (except last one), and the remainder is on the wisdom. I believe it to be something like 4/4/4/5 and 4/6 (I could be off here).How many damage spell masters do you have? (I only have 9-fusion-bol-irradiate-glacial winds-icesheild-rending icicles-incapaciate-surging tempest-protoferno[m2] the rest are all adept 3)Only the Master 2 choices. I know I picked Ice Sheild at 64. All other spells are Adept 3.Are you referring to a zone wide parse, or a single fight parse, or a named mob parse? if so could you specify and if named which named parses?Those are single parses. This link will show you how I faired on the named's in Labs:<a href="<a href=" target="_blank"></a>www.eq2alliance.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=31&func=view&id=3121&catid=8" target=_blank>http://www.eq2alliance.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=31&func=view&id=3121&catid=8Near the end of the zone, I was naked (didn't know we were going after named that run and forgot to bring backup gear). So, ignore the last few.How long are you waiting before nuking your heart out?About 4-5 seconds. Just long enough to be sure the Tank survives. I open with de-buffs and dots, then shortly thereafter (within 10-15s of pull) start with the big nukes.What kind of set up is the Main tank group?Usuall the MT (Gaurdian), couple scout types, some healers, and a mage or two. We don't raid as a guild, so the groups always vary.What kind of classes are you grouped with on the raid?Again, this varies a lot also. But it is usually a Paly, Templar, another Wizzie, a scout type, me, and whatever else they throw in.What kind of cross raid buffs are you getting (if any?)That I couldn't tell ya. Again, we aren't a guild, but a bunch of small guilds that have joined together for raiding. But I really don't think there are many.What kind of gear do you have? (self buffed power pool size- self buffed flowing thought- self buffed Hit points?) [I have about 7100 self buffed power - 35 or so flowing thought - and 4600 hp]Mostly treasured with a few legendary and a couple fabled. The only FT I have is my wand of second life, and a FT3 pair of gloves. I have about 4500 HP, and about 6600 power, all self buffed.Any dmg spell proc items such as grizzlefazzles, invoker earing, sunchilds helm, bone clasped girdle, rings of supremecy, the wrist item from niazra(forgot name), fitzpitzles misty protector? [I have grizzlefazzles, bone clasped girdle, and invoker earing]I had the invoker earring, but I just changed it out of one with better stats. I still have it though and keep it as backup (was wearing it on the linked raid though). and I have the wand of second life.When you do nuke your heart out do you ever pull agro? and if you did pull agro how did you?Yes. Not all the time, but yes. How? Ummm.. nuking, lol. I pull agro very often with Fusion, and sometimes with Nova. Also, casting AoE's gets me killed every so often too. <hr></blockquote>What would you suggest that I can do on my own to get better numbers? Keep in mind, these are me going all out. Yes, I die from agro sometimes, but I can't seem to parse good, on full burn, even when I don't die. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

IllusiveThoughts

08-18-2006, 06:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> putergod wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> Group makeup is usually Guild, and consists of a Paladin, Templar, myself, and varies between Gaurdian, Warlock, Monk, SK Amends is on me. I go all out full burn from pull and my extDPS varies so drastically. The other night I had many fights where I was down in the low hundreds and ranged all the way up to 1600 (two fights). <HR> Okay with a paly and amends on you, it litterally allows you to open with rending icicles > ice nova > fusion on a single target and as long as the paly is taunting you pretty much wont pull agro on a single target, provided amends is at least adept 3 (39%) Also the dps can range by about 40%, so you may see some fights casting the same spells in the same order do 40% less dps (or damage) simply because the range we have on all of our spells/nukes. It also looks like you dont have any heat/cold debuffers in your group, so your damage will be representative of what you can do with your own debuffs. <HR> putergod wrote: Nope, 28. Not sure "exactly" what my makeup is (not at home), but I have gone down the Agility line (except last one), and the remainder is on the wisdom. I believe it to be something like 4/4/4/5 and 4/6 (I could be off here). <HR> Okay so you have free hand sorcery at least, you'll want to max out the spell haste in the agility line (14.4%) which makes casting things much faster like fusion in 4.3s, ice nova in 3.4s ball of lava in 2.6s firestorm in 1.7s and rending icicles in 0.8s. try to only use freehand sorcery for fusion or ice nova, and save the ice nova (this is referring to grouped situation) for when freehand sorcery refreshes. <HR> putergod wrote: </BLOCKQUOTE> Only the Master 2 choices. I know I picked Ice Sheild at 64. All other spells are Adept 3. <HR> Not a big deal, master 1 spells will add as much as 15-17% to your overall dps (they are that big of a jump in dmg) I'm not going to say to try to get any because I think every wizard "tries" to get master scrolls. So hope you get lucky and pick one or two up, or spend some time farming plat to try to buy one if you see it on broker. I'd try to get these first (ball of lava, icesheild, fusion, ice nova) on my parses those are my 4 top damage dealers for a zone parse, so focus on trying to aquire those if possible. <HR> putergod wrote: Those are single parses. This link will show you how I faired on the named's in Labs: <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/<a%20href=" target=_blank></A>www.eq2alliance.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=31&func=view&id=3121&catid=8" target=_blank>http://www.eq2alliance.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=31&func=view&id=3121&catid=8 Near the end of the zone, I was naked (didn't know we were going after named that run and forgot to bring backup gear). So, ignore the last few. <HR> I cant see that need to log in, could you copy and paste them here(it is a parse thread ya know?) <HR> putergod wrote: About 4-5 seconds. Just long enough to be sure the Tank survives. I open with de-buffs and dots, then shortly thereafter (within 10-15s of pull) start with the big nukes. <HR> thats fine, your going to have to experiment with your tank a little but try opening with rending icicles > forge of ro > protoferno > surging tempest > freehand sorcery>ice nova (or fusion) > ball of lava > firestorm > irradiate > (ice nova or fusion which ever is left)>rending icicles again > irradiate > ball of lava > firestorm....ect. (your going to have to stand in mele range and turn on auto attack as well.) also this is assuming the mob will live for at least 50seconds, or surging tempest / protoferno will be wasted. <HR> putergod wrote: Usuall the MT (Gaurdian), couple scout types, some healers, and a mage or two. We don't raid as a guild, so the groups always vary. <HR> when you say scout types, does that usually include a dirge for hate gain buffs on the main tank? or is it an assasin and swashie for hate transfer? do you guys ever have a coercer and a dirge for the main tank? mage in the mt group? is that a conj for the mit buff or a coercer? <HR> putergod wrote: Again, this varies a lot also. But it is usually a Paly, Templar, another Wizzie, a scout type, me, and whatever else they throw in. <HR> so assuming you have amends from the paly, you can try the above combo I gave you and see if you pull agro from it on a single target. <HR> putergod wrote: That I couldn't tell ya. Again, we aren't a guild, but a bunch of small guilds that have joined together for raiding. But I really don't think there are many. <HR> by cross raid buffs I mean harmonious link (from a coercer de-agros 23% passive) and synergisim (from the illusionist 500dmg proc and 700 de-agro) <HR> putergod wrote: Mostly treasured with a few legendary and a couple fabled. The only FT I have is my wand of second life, and a FT3 pair of gloves. I have about 4500 HP, and about 6600 power, all self buffed. <HR> so you have about 17 flowing thought, and 6600 power, kind of dumb question but are you at the int cap? do you have xhaviz's gown of glory(fabled robe from the last boss in nest), and the skywatchers de-agro robe(ring event on temple grounds in tenerborus)? <HR> putergod wrote: I had the invoker earring, but I just changed it out of one with better stats. I still have it though and keep it as backup (was wearing it on the linked raid though). and I have the wand of second life. <HR> put it back on. extra damage = extra dps, the only time I remove it on a raid is if I have to put a certain resist type in my ear slot for a raidwide aoe (like fear or stun or dmg) other than that it always stays on, it can and will proc about 11-12% on your spells (used to proc much more like 20% but it was ninja'd in lu26) it can account for as much as 3% of my dps on a 2k parse. Also spend some time getting to crafter level 36 or 180 geomancy (all you need to do the bone clasped girdle) the quest itself is fairly easy and could be done in one day with your guildies. This is a huge boost for any mage, especially if you have multiple mages on the raid that wear it because the debuff proc 1. stacks with itself and 2. will always be up, increasing YOUR dps since its heat/cold debuff. Also if your not having to use any cannibalization spells on the raid before the mob dies (such as trash mobs) you may want to consider putting grizzlefazzles on for the extra damage. <HR> putergod wrote: Yes. Not all the time, but yes. How? Ummm.. nuking, lol. I pull agro very often with Fusion, and sometimes with Nova. Also, casting AoE's gets me killed every so often too. What would you suggest that I can do on my own to get better numbers? Keep in mind, these are me going all out. Yes, I die from agro sometimes, but I can't seem to parse good, on full burn, even when I don't die. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> What I meant was when do you pull agro if you do. Like you said you open with dots and then drop the big bombs, do you always pull agro with fusion on multiple targets? if so when are you using fusion? when are you putting down forge of ro (he doesn't have his own hate list anymore and it goes directly to you) also if you do start to aoe are you getting killed after how many aoes? do you get to go through a round of glacial winds > firestorm more than once before agro, 2x? 3X? 5x? ect....

Zyphius

08-18-2006, 09:01 PM

<blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> Okay with a paly and amends on you, it litterally allows you to open with rending icicles > ice nova > fusion on a single target and as long as the paly is taunting you pretty much wont pull agro on a single target, provided amends is at least adept 3 (39%<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Also the dps can range by about 40%, so you may see some fights casting the same spells in the same order do 40% less dps (or damage) simply because the range we have on all of our spells/nukes.It also looks like you dont have any heat/cold debuffers in your group, so your damage will be representative of what you can do with your own debuffs. Nope, just me <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Okay so you have free hand sorcery at least, you'll want to max out the spell haste in the agility line (14.4%<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> which makes casting things much faster likefusion in 4.3s, ice nova in 3.4s ball of lava in 2.6s firestorm in 1.7s and rending icicles in 0.8s.try to only use freehand sorcery for fusion or ice nova, and save the ice nova (this is referring to grouped situation) for when freehand sorcery refreshes.I have a macro for unequip secondary/usea freehand.../usea ice novaIt never really impresses me. It RARELY hits for more than IN max. ONCE it hit for 12k on a grey, lvl 35. It's to the point that the time to make sure it's ready, cast it, and reequip secondary almost isnt worth it.<hr>Not a big deal, master 1 spells will add as much as 15-17% to your overall dps (they are that big of a jump in dmg) I'm not going to say to try to get any because I think every wizard "tries" to get master scrolls. So hope you get lucky and pick one or two up, or spend some time farming plat to try to buy one if you see it on broker.I'd try to get these first (ball of lava, icesheild, fusion, ice nova) on my parses those are my 4 top damage dealers for a zone parse, so focus on trying to aquire those if possible.I've seen Fusion on broker for 22 plat. I have 6 plat. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr>I cant see that need to log in, could you copy and paste them here(it is a parse thread ya know?)Ask and you shall receive:Slavering Alzid - 08/13/2006Allies: (03:16) 1521736 | 7763.96 [Carbajal-Decapitate-18249]Carbajal 168754 | 860.99Brusse 159907 | 815.85Malachor 153423 | 782.77Maiar 144724 | 738.39Glisin 125834 | 642.01Zeomancer 122873 | 626.90Zyphius 120214 | 613.34Aldaris 90462 | 461.54Vane 81980 | 418.27Maasta 69239 | 353.26Rockroi 59487 | 303.51Crocka 58942 | 300.72Filmore 42911 | 218.93Ralyssand 37587 | 191.77Dravian 37019 | 188.87Jinxie 26703 | 136.24Gethani 11424 | 58.29Agenda 6964 | 35.53Kattana 1862 | 9.50Huggin 1427 | 7.28Shallondra 0 | 0.00Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Filmore's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00Fahtima 0 | 0.00Zeomancer's protoferno 0 | 0.00Glisin's protoferno 0 | 0.00Doomwright Vakrizt - 08/13/2006Allies: (02:43) 1253389 | 7689.50 [Carbajal-Decapitate-15411]Brusse 168715 | 1035.06Carbajal 163770 | 1004.72Malachor 133485 | 818.93Maiar 111834 | 686.10Glisin 79833 | 489.77Aldaris 74707 | 458.33Vane 70406 | 431.94Rockroi 70142 | 430.32Crocka 60191 | 369.27Zeomancer 59063 | 362.35Zyphius 47885 | 293.77Maasta 44326 | 271.94Ralyssand 44175 | 271.01Filmore 39062 | 239.64Dravian 25754 | 158.00Jinxie 21786 | 133.66Agenda 13597 | 83.42Gethani 9339 | 57.29Huggin 1413 | 8.67Vane's netherlord 0 | 0.00Fahtima 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Kattana 0 | 0.00Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Pardas Predd - 08/13/2006Allies: (02:25) 1282838 | 8847.16 [Carbajal-Decapitate-16035]Brusse 155173 | 1070.16Carbajal 125522 | 865.67Maiar 125491 | 865.46Malachor 118402 | 816.57Glisin 96169 | 663.23Zyphius 94348 | 650.68Zeomancer 92180 | 635.72Sayn 76235 | 525.76Aldaris 61895 | 426.86Rockroi 60692 | 418.57Maasta 59887 | 413.01Vane 51959 | 358.34Crocka 45283 | 312.30Dravian 40399 | 278.61Ralyssand 23923 | 164.99Jinxie 19892 | 137.19Filmore 19376 | 133.63Gethani 10171 | 70.14Agenda 3790 | 26.14Kattana 825 | 5.69Huggin 765 | 5.28Shallondra 461 | 3.18Fahtima 0 | 0.00Vane's netherlord 0 | 0.00Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Zeomancer's protoferno 0 | 0.00Doom Triad - 08/13/2006Allies: (02:15) 1130719 | 8375.70 [Carbajal-Decapitate-16827]Malachor 122893 | 910.32Carbajal 122277 | 905.76Brusse 111590 | 826.59Maiar 111263 | 824.17Glisin 108076 | 800.56Zeomancer 95990 | 711.04Zyphius 70100 | 519.26Maasta 67753 | 501.87Sayn 66996 | 496.27Aldaris 62956 | 466.34Rockroi 45901 | 340.01Vane 37551 | 278.16Dravian 29864 | 221.21Filmore 25062 | 185.64Jinxie 18913 | 140.10Ralyssand 16730 | 123.93Crocka 9332 | 69.13Agenda 3152 | 23.35Huggin 2293 | 16.99Gethani 2027 | 15.01Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Kattana 0 | 0.00Fahtima 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Glisin's protoferno 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Zeomancer's protoferno 0 | 0.00Sayn's thug 0 | 0.00Filmore's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00Uncaged Alzid - 08/13/2006Allies: (03:41) 1398153 | 6326.48 [Carbajal-Killing Blade-11091]Brusse 172258 | 779.45Zeomancer 139557 | 631.48Maiar 137645 | 622.83Carbajal 110347 | 499.31Glisin 107862 | 488.06Vane 107835 | 487.94Sayn 102537 | 463.97Zyphius 87336 | 395.19Rockroi 79066 | 357.76Malachor 77063 | 348.70Aldaris 68704 | 310.88Maasta 41582 | 188.15Gethani 38822 | 175.67Crocka 36680 | 165.97Harpax 28560 | 129.23Filmore 22337 | 101.07Dravian 11008 | 49.81Jinxie 10978 | 49.67Agenda 9965 | 45.09Ralyssand 4383 | 19.83Huggin 2975 | 13.46Babyjesus 611 | 2.76Fahtima 42 | 0.19Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Zeomancer's protoferno 0 | 0.00Kattana 0 | 0.00Aldaris's attack hawk 0 | 0.00Filmore's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Vane's netherlord 0 | 0.00Glisin's protoferno 0 | 0.00Sayn's thug 0 | 0.00-Uustalastus Xiterrax - 08/13/2006Allies: (03:10) 878297 | 4622.62 [Zeomancer-Fusion-12731]Malachor 96095 | 505.76Carbajal 90273 | 475.12Brusse 81585 | 429.39Vane 67652 | 356.06Harpax 65249 | 343.42Sayn 60414 | 317.97Glisin 55617 | 292.72Zeomancer 47062 | 247.69Maiar 43881 | 230.95Zyphius 35579 | 187.26Aldaris 33747 | 177.62Crocka 32169 | 169.31Rockroi 31943 | 168.12Ralyssand 26545 | 139.71Maasta 24079 | 126.73Dravian 22291 | 117.32Agenda 19260 | 101.37Gethani 16686 | 87.82Filmore 14208 | 74.78Jinxie 7687 | 40.46Kattana 3328 | 17.52Huggin 2947 | 15.51Fahtima 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Malachor's attack hawk 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Doomsworn Zatrakh - 08/13/2006 (Attemp 1)Allies: (02:25) 936971 | 6461.87 [Doomsworn Zatrakh-pierce-14334]Doomsworn Zatrakh 342345 | 2361.00Brusse 104676 | 721.90Maiar 72047 | 496.88Malachor 65096 | 448.94Vane 49640 | 342.34Glisin 45649 | 314.82Sayn 41610 | 286.97Zeomancer 41471 | 286.01Zyphius 34573 | 238.43Crocka 26471 | 182.56Rockroi 26058 | 179.71Aldaris 19845 | 136.86Maasta 16625 | 114.66Ralyssand 15008 | 103.50Harpax 11913 | 82.16Filmore 8026 | 55.35Carbajal 4816 | 33.21Jinxie 4200 | 28.97Dravian 2177 | 15.01Gethani 1608 | 11.09Agenda 1594 | 10.99Babyjesus 972 | 6.70Kattana 0 | 0.00Huggin 0 | 0.00Filmore's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00Zeomancer's protoferno 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Fahtima 0 | 0.00Glisin's protoferno 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Vane's netherlord 0 | 0.00Doomsworn Zatrakh - 08/13/2006 (Attemp 2)Allies: (03:41) 1506480 | 6816.65 [Glisin-Ice Nova-13857]Doomsworn Zatrakh 231633 | 1048.11Malachor 154672 | 699.87Brusse 147910 | 669.28Maiar 144966 | 655.95Glisin 143664 | 650.06Carbajal 116669 | 527.91Vane 99580 | 450.59Zeomancer 76810 | 347.56Aldaris 68386 | 309.44Rockroi 64404 | 291.42Crocka 52028 | 235.42Harpax 50972 | 230.64Zyphius 46750 | 211.54Maasta 44738 | 202.43Filmore 20975 | 94.91Gethani 18077 | 81.80Jinxie 8306 | 37.58Agenda 7916 | 35.82Dravian 5788 | 26.19Huggin 2236 | 10.12Kattana 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Fahtima 0 | 0.00Coroslander - 08/13/2006Allies: (04:35) 1270503 | 4620.01 [Carbajal-Decapitate-18284]Malachor 167871 | 610.44Maiar 147115 | 534.96Brusse 143256 | 520.93Aldaris 123457 | 448.93Carbajal 123260 | 448.22Glisin 114399 | 416.00Rockroi 66257 | 240.93Vane 65236 | 237.22Zyphius 64690 | 235.24Ralyssand 46564 | 169.32Crocka 42360 | 154.04Zeomancer 41455 | 150.75Harpax 26466 | 96.24Gethani 22180 | 80.65Sayn 21428 | 77.92Filmore 13045 | 47.44Agenda 12555 | 45.65Maasta 10602 | 38.55Dravian 9949 | 36.18Jinxie 4312 | 15.68Kattana 2199 | 8.00Huggin 1269 | 4.61Fahtima 578 | 2.10Babyjesus 0 | 0.00Maiar's protoferno 0 | 0.00Vane's netherlord 0 | 0.00Zyphius's protoferno 0 | 0.00Shallondra 0 | 0.00Zeomancer's protoferno 0 | 0.00Filmore's nefarious sacrament 0 | 0.00Glisin's protoferno 0 | 0.00Malachor's attack hawk 0 | 0.00<hr>thats fine, your going to have to experiment with your tank a little but try opening with rending icicles > forge of ro > protoferno > surging tempest > freehand sorcery>ice nova (or fusion) > ball of lava > firestorm > irradiate > (ice nova or fusion which ever is left)>rending icicles again > irradiate > ball of lava > firestorm....ect. (your going to have to stand in mele range and turn on auto attack as well.) also this is assuming the mob will live for at least 50seconds, or surging tempest / protoferno will be wasted.That's not too far from what I do; I pretty much hit all my buffs, dots, and procs then open with the bombs. Hit all the dots, buffs, procs, and mini-nukes, until the bombs are locked and loaded again.<hr>when you say scout types, does that usually include a dirge for hate gain buffs on the main tank? or is it an assasin and swashie for hate transfer? do you guys ever have a coercer and a dirge for the main tank? mage in the mt group? is that a conj for the mit buff or a coercer?We have no chanters. The scout types vary greatly. We always have a ranger, troub, and swash. I will start taking notes on the group makeups and report back.<hr>so assuming you have amends from the paly, you can try the above combo I gave you and see if you pull agro from it on a single target.<hr>I pulled agro severl times in the above parse, even with amends. Was not a good night for me though, lol.<hr>by cross raid buffs I mean harmonious link (from a coercer de-agros 23% passive) and synergisim (from the illusionist 500dmg proc and 700 de-agro) I have no idea, but I will try to take note of that at the next raid as well.<hr>so you have about 17 flowing thought, and 6600 power, kind of dumb question but are you at the int cap? do you have xhaviz's gown of glory(fabled robe from the last boss in nest), and the skywatchers de-agro robe(ring event on temple grounds in tenerborus)?I do have Xhavix's, that's one of my two fabled peices. I do not have the skywatchers robe... too expensive on Unrest atm. I have looked at buying it to have when I needed extra deagro.<hr>put it back on. extra damage = extra dps, the only time I remove it on a raid is if I have to put a certain resist type in my ear slot for a raidwide aoe (like fear or stun or dmg) other than that it always stays on, it can and will proc about 11-12% on your spells (used to proc much more like 20% but it was ninja'd in lu26) it can account for as much as 3% of my dps on a 2k parse.Also spend some time getting to crafter level 36 or 180 geomancy (all you need to do the bone clasped girdle) the quest itself is fairly easy and could be done in one day with your guildies. This is a huge boost for any mage, especially if you have multiple mages on the raid that wear it because the debuff proc 1. stacks with itself and 2. will always be up, increasing YOUR dps since its heat/cold debuff.Also if your not having to use any cannibalization spells on the raid before the mob dies (such as trash mobs) you may want to consider putting grizzlefazzles on for the extra damage.Ok, I'll put it back on. I'm a lvl 70 sage, so my crafter level is up, lol. I do not have the bone clapsed girdle yet, but I do want it. Where does the quest start? I don't have grisslefazzles stick.<hr>What I meant was when do you pull agro if you do.Like you said you open with dots and then drop the big bombs, do you always pull agro with fusion on multiple targets? if so when are you using fusion? when are you putting down forge of ro (he doesn't have his own hate list anymore and it goes directly to you)also if you do start to aoe are you getting killed after how many aoes? do you get to go through a round of glacial winds > firestorm more than once before agro, 2x? 3X? 5x? ect....I normally pull agro on AoE's and occasionally with nova or fusion. If I pull it on an AoE, it's usually the 2nd or 3rd one. If it's on fusion, usually the first one. Nova, the second. I rarely pull agro in raids with nova, and only occasionally with fusion. It's usually "wind" and "fire" that do it. In groups, I pull agro with fusion almost every time, but the mobs are about dead, and don't hit like raid mobs, so it usually isn't that big of a deal.</blockquote>

IllusiveThoughts

08-18-2006, 10:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> putergod wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> I have a macro for unequip secondary/usea freehand.../usea ice nova It never really impresses me. It RARELY hits for more than IN max. ONCE it hit for 12k on a grey, lvl 35. It's to the point that the time to make sure it's ready, cast it, and reequip secondary almost isnt worth it. <HR> In groups it is very much worth it. once you max it out it will be worth 30% more damage. on adept 3 ice nova your getting an additional 1320 at the very low end and 2250 at the top end, and this is just counting the spells range not factoring in debuffs, like when on a raid it gets doubled and even trippled. <HR> putergod wrote: I've seen Fusion on broker for 22 plat. I have 6 plat. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <HR> like I said no worrys bud, its not easy to get masters. You can try farming the nest or SoS as that is where people most commonly find ball of lava or fusion. <HR> putergod wrote: Ask and you shall receive: Slavering Alzid - 08/13/2006 Allies: (03:16) 1521736 | 7763.96 [Carbajal-Decapitate-18249] Carbajal 168754 | 860.99 Brusse 159907 | 815.85 Malachor 153423 | 782.77 Maiar 144724 | 738.39 Glisin 125834 | 642.01 Zeomancer 122873 | 626.90 Zyphius 120214 | 613.34 Doomwright Vakrizt - 08/13/2006 Allies: (02:43) 1253389 | 7689.50 [Carbajal-Decapitate-15411] Brusse 168715 | 1035.06 Carbajal 163770 | 1004.72 Malachor 133485 | 818.93 Maiar 111834 | 686.10 Glisin 79833 | 489.77 Aldaris 74707 | 458.33 Vane 70406 | 431.94 Rockroi 70142 | 430.32 Crocka 60191 | 369.27 Zeomancer 59063 | 362.35 Zyphius 47885 | 293.77 Pardas Predd - 08/13/2006 Allies: (02:25) 1282838 | 8847.16 [Carbajal-Decapitate-16035] Brusse 155173 | 1070.16 Carbajal 125522 | 865.67 Maiar 125491 | 865.46 Malachor 118402 | 816.57 Glisin 96169 | 663.23 Zyphius 94348 | 650.68 Doom Triad - 08/13/2006 Allies: (02:15) 1130719 | 8375.70 [Carbajal-Decapitate-16827] Malachor 122893 | 910.32 Carbajal 122277 | 905.76 Brusse 111590 | 826.59 Maiar 111263 | 824.17 Glisin 108076 | 800.56 Zeomancer 95990 | 711.04 Zyphius 70100 | 519.26 Uncaged Alzid - 08/13/2006 Allies: (03:41) 1398153 | 6326.48 [Carbajal-Killing Blade-11091] Brusse 172258 | 779.45 Zeomancer 139557 | 631.48 Maiar 137645 | 622.83 Carbajal 110347 | 499.31 Glisin 107862 | 488.06 Vane 107835 | 487.94 Sayn 102537 | 463.97 Zyphius 87336 | 395.19 Uustalastus Xiterrax - 08/13/2006 Allies: (03:10) 878297 | 4622.62 [Zeomancer-Fusion-12731] Malachor 96095 | 505.76 Carbajal 90273 | 475.12 Brusse 81585 | 429.39 Vane 67652 | 356.06 Harpax 65249 | 343.42 Sayn 60414 | 317.97 Glisin 55617 | 292.72 Zeomancer 47062 | 247.69 Maiar 43881 | 230.95 Zyphius 35579 | 187.26 Doomsworn Zatrakh - 08/13/2006 (Attemp 1) Allies: (02:25) 936971 | 6461.87 [Doomsworn Zatrakh-pierce-14334] Doomsworn Zatrakh 342345 | 2361.00 Brusse 104676 | 721.90 Maiar 72047 | 496.88 Malachor 65096 | 448.94 Vane 49640 | 342.34 Glisin 45649 | 314.82 Sayn 41610 | 286.97 Zeomancer 41471 | 286.01 Zyphius 34573 | 238.43 Doomsworn Zatrakh - 08/13/2006 (Attemp 2) Allies: (03:41) 1506480 | 6816.65 [Glisin-Ice Nova-13857] Doomsworn Zatrakh 231633 | 1048.11 Malachor 154672 | 699.87 Brusse 147910 | 669.28 Maiar 144966 | 655.95 Glisin 143664 | 650.06 Carbajal 116669 | 527.91 Vane 99580 | 450.59 Zeomancer 76810 | 347.56 Aldaris 68386 | 309.44 Rockroi 64404 | 291.42 Crocka 52028 | 235.42 Harpax 50972 | 230.64 Zyphius 46750 | 211.54 Coroslander - 08/13/2006 Allies: (04:35) 1270503 | 4620.01 [Carbajal-Decapitate-18284] Malachor 167871 | 610.44 Maiar 147115 | 534.96 Brusse 143256 | 520.93 Aldaris 123457 | 448.93 Carbajal 123260 | 448.22 Glisin 114399 | 416.00 Rockroi 66257 | 240.93 Vane 65236 | 237.22 Zyphius 64690 | 235.24 <HR> I'm guessing some of those fights are where you died, since you did like 1-200 dps. If that is the case and your dieing more often than not (what it seems like to me on these named parses) then you need more hate reduction on you or more hate gain on the MT. <HR> putergod wrote: That's not too far from what I do; I pretty much hit all my buffs, dots, and procs then open with the bombs. Hit all the dots, buffs, procs, and mini-nukes, until the bombs are locked and loaded again. <HR> even though it's just a little bit different give the combo a shot, try to always use ball of lava when ever it refreshes, and avoid using sunstrike, and firey convultions unless you have nothing else to cast and then use firey convultions before sunstrike. Also stand within 7.5 meters of the mob and use firestorm (even on single targets) when ever that is up. Typically I spend most of my time casting bol, irradiate, ice sheild, firestorm against singles. <HR> putergod wrote: We have no chanters. The scout types vary greatly. We always have a ranger, troub, and swash. I will start taking notes on the group makeups and report back. <HR> If you have a troubador, please please please make them put you with the troubador. also make sure the troubador is playing allegro and dont kill the messenger, along with incombat regen, and alins calming serenade(hate reduction song) <HR> putergod wrote: I pulled agro severl times in the above parse, even with amends. Was not a good night for me though, lol. <HR> this raid your problem was hate reduction and hate gain on the MT. You cant expect to parse high without those. <HR> putergod wrote: I do have Xhavix's, that's one of my two fabled peices. I do not have the skywatchers robe... too expensive on Unrest atm. I have looked at buying it to have when I needed extra deagro. <HR> good. xhaviz's rocks. Try to get some friends to farm the ring event on temple grounds until you can get the robe yourself. the named pops ever 2.5 hours <HR> putergod wrote: Ok, I'll put it back on. I'm a lvl 70 sage, so my crafter level is up, lol. I do not have the bone clapsed girdle yet, but I do want it. Where does the quest start? I don't have grisslefazzles stick. <HR> also good to know, you get the quest for the bone clasped girdle (heritage quest btw) by talking to sinephobus on the fear tainted island, its back by the thullian guards, you have to speak thullian to get the quest. grizzlefazzles walking stick comes from hailing the guy on the crash site in the bonemire, and involves going to the den of the devouror and killing the final boss mob, very very easy quest and can be done in one day. <HR> putergod wrote: I normally pull agro on AoE's and occasionally with nova or fusion. If I pull it on an AoE, it's usually the 2nd or 3rd one. If it's on fusion, usually the first one. Nova, the second. I rarely pull agro in raids with nova, and only occasionally with fusion. It's usually "wind" and "fire" that do it. In groups, I pull agro with fusion almost every time, but the mobs are about dead, and don't hit like raid mobs, so it usually isn't that big of a deal.</BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> again your problem seems to be more related to hate gain on mt and hate reduction on you. with amends I can still aoe my heart out (without fusion) on multi mob encounters and not draw aoe agro with glacial winds forge of ro or firestorm every time they refresh. This makes a large impact on your dps. I would suggest on any aoe situation, (2 or more mobs) to ask that the MT burn a taunt or two on the off tank mobs (in otherwords the ones the raid isn't burning down) this will help the *raid* do more aoe dps and in turn also help you. also if that isn't working to well try to stick to single targets untill the first guy is almost dead, then from that point on try chaining aoes, (put down forge of ro, use frigid gift and glacial winds, use surge of flames and firestorm) when they refresh and you may be able to live through it.

Kelkirra

08-19-2006, 02:51 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> again your problem seems to be more related to hate gain on mt and hate reduction on you. with amends I can still aoe my heart out (without fusion) on multi mob encounters and not draw aoe agro with glacial winds forge of ro or firestorm every time they refresh. This makes a large impact on your dps. I would suggest on any aoe situation, (2 or more mobs) to ask that the MT burn a taunt or two on the off tank mobs (in otherwords the ones the raid isn't burning down) this will help the *raid* do more aoe dps and in turn also help you. also if that isn't working to well try to stick to single targets untill the first guy is almost dead, then from that point on try chaining aoes, (put down forge of ro, use frigid gift and glacial winds, use surge of flames and firestorm) when they refresh and you may be able to live through it. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I thought that this was the norm of tanking multiple mobs in a raid setting? Even with a dirge and coercer in my group (not something that happens often, but our raid leader, a defiler, likes the added power regen sometimes -_-) I will go through each mob making sure to have either my single target taunt on them or my shield taunt. If I see Illu's macro for fusion, then I run through them again just to make sure, even if I have already thrown down those taunts on the adds/extra mobs in the encounter to ensure that he doesn't get agro. Even with the weakest taunts in the game, I can still hold agro on fusion a majority of the time just by playing with a bit more strategy than the average tank =D. What type of tank are you using as your MT? If he/she isn't throwing down the extra threat on the extra mobs/adds, then how is he/she holding agro off of your warlocks and conjy's? Do you know the spell quality of the taunts and attacks of your MT? My personal belief, as it seems to work with the raids that I tank, is that communication is the ultimate key. I've been on raids where the MA gives a target right away and never allows for a debuffing stage or allows the MT any time to build up hate and the MT loses agro about 70% of the time, even as a guard. Talk to your tank and find out how he's gaining the initial agro. Time it so that you're building your hate around the same time if not a little after he/she is and warn he/she of any major attacks that are incomming to the encounter. Get the tank a dirge/coercer and yourself a trouby and take w/e advice that Illu gives you with casting orders, gear choices, ect. and I think you'll see your DPS drastically increase. =D That is all.

Raidi Sovin'faile

08-19-2006, 09:12 AM

<DIV>The DPS numbers will depend a lot on if the call for DPS was done quickly or not, but I think I can see where some of the problems might be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm guessing Rockroi was the MT? I'm doubting it was the monk, and the Shadowknight was even lower DPS, so I'm hoping it was the Guardian. All numbers aside.. the guardian's DPS was very low in comparison to the the DPSers. While tanks have taunts, it's only half the aggro they can do... the other half can come from DPS. So while taunting like mad can be good, doing 800 DPS while doing that is even better. Rockroi was doing 300-400 DPS, so going by that, it's no wonder breaking 1500+ would kill you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not sure how you had the groups set up, but I can see there was no warden. They have a buff that can offset the skill reduction from defensive stance and shortterm buffs, so they can still lands damage hits along with great defense.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, I'm guessing the aggro increase on the MT was the dirge and the assassin (which would be why the assassin scored consistantly high). While this can work in a pinch, having a Coercer with a 40-50% hate increaser slapped on the MT can work wonders, especially if the MT can DPS.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lastly, those fights look long, and your manaregen consisted of a Dirge and Troubadour. You didn't even have a summoner to hand out clicky power. Hard to sustain three minutes full DPS when at least 50% of the raid doesn't even have any outside power regen at all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems like this particular situation was more about your raid force than anything else.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I suspect that just changing a few classes around would see a doubling in raid DPS. For example, replace one of the templars with a warden and slip him in the MT group, a couple wizards with a coercer and illusionist, and one of the rangers with a summoner.</DIV> <DIV>I know it's easier said than done... but if people have alts they can level up, then here's what the raid force could use.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

tbotus

08-19-2006, 12:59 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<div></div><div>I also firmly belive that Summoners don't pay sufficiently for the damage output they have. They have far less power consumption then us, they have far less threat generation, they have more utility, they also have higher survival rate through Feign Death (necro) or stoneskin (Conjuror). All my guilds raids parses are pretty consistent with the below results. And I know melees will catch up sooner or later once they get their AD3/M1s especially the Assassins.</div><hr></blockquote>You do realize that conjuror DPS is very centered around multiple creature encounters, correct? Lyceum is our playground.As for not believing that summoners pay sufficient power for the damage output you have no clue how much power EV can eat, amongst other things... in fact, I don't think you have any idea how to play a summoner or the problems that are involved. Great DPS comes at a cost for a summoner - our pet dies and the shock of aggro usually winds up killing us and more than likely someone else on the raid. Stoneskin is nice, but it's our ONLY inherent aggro debuff. That's it.As for utility, before making bogus statements, look things up. Wizard and conjuror buffs are very similar. You get evac, we get CoH. Same procs to put on weapons, same type of DS (Think yours actually does more).So, we get shards. Nifty; you get mana pump. I can see how that would definately cause conjurors to have low DPS. I mean, naturally.My suggestion? Quit whining and compete legitimately for your DPS. If you can out-do your conjuror it'll make him strive that much harder to beat you out and in turn better your raid and your guild as a whole.Sad part about all this, go on over to the conjuror forums and read all the whining over there about how nerfed we are. It's sick. Play the game and shut the hell up. If you suck at it, that's your problem.</div>

Jezekie

08-19-2006, 03:36 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>tbotus wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Jezekiell wrote:<div></div><div>I also firmly belive that Summoners don't pay sufficiently for the damage output they have. They have far less power consumption then us, they have far less threat generation, they have more utility, they also have higher survival rate through Feign Death (necro) or stoneskin (Conjuror). All my guilds raids parses are pretty consistent with the below results. And I know melees will catch up sooner or later once they get their AD3/M1s especially the Assassins.</div><hr></blockquote>You do realize that conjuror DPS is very centered around multiple creature encounters, correct? Lyceum is our playground.As for not believing that summoners pay sufficient power for the damage output you have no clue how much power EV can eat, amongst other things... in fact, I don't think you have any idea how to play a summoner or the problems that are involved. Great DPS comes at a cost for a summoner - our pet dies and the shock of aggro usually winds up killing us and more than likely someone else on the raid. Stoneskin is nice, but it's our ONLY inherent aggro debuff. That's it.As for utility, before making bogus statements, look things up. Wizard and conjuror buffs are very similar. You get evac, we get CoH. Same procs to put on weapons, same type of DS (Think yours actually does more).So, we get shards. Nifty; you get mana pump. I can see how that would definately cause conjurors to have low DPS. I mean, naturally.My suggestion? Quit whining and compete legitimately for your DPS. If you can out-do your conjuror it'll make him strive that much harder to beat you out and in turn better your raid and your guild as a whole.Sad part about all this, go on over to the conjuror forums and read all the whining over there about how nerfed we are. It's sick. Play the game and shut the hell up. If you suck at it, that's your problem.</div><hr></blockquote>^ funny.</div>

Cowtothes

08-19-2006, 05:54 PM

Message Edited by Cowtothesky on 08-19-2006 07:15 AM

Victicu

08-19-2006, 08:23 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>tbotus wrote:<div>Sad part about all this, go on over to the conjuror forums and read all the whining over there about how nerfed we are. It's sick. Play the game and shut the hell up. If you suck at it, that's your problem.</div><hr></blockquote>Yea you guys got so nerfed Assassins are the only class that might beat you on a parse. Really, my heart goes out to you guys.</div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-20-2006, 02:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Victicus7 wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> tbotus wrote: <DIV>Sad part about all this, go on over to the conjuror forums and read all the whining over there about how nerfed we are. It's sick. Play the game and shut the hell up. If you suck at it, that's your problem. </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Yea you guys got so nerfed Assassins are the only class that might beat you on a parse. Really, my heart goes out to you guys. </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> he wasn't complaining that conj dps was nerfed, hes saying its sick that there are a bunch of whiners on the conj forums complaining, when in reality they can do very good dps.

IllusiveThoughts

08-20-2006, 09:20 PM

Here's my last Lyceum run Buffs: NONE no hate reduction, no incombat regen, no troubador, no illusionist. (amends was on the warlock, and i forgot who the other person was who had it)I had on skywatcher robe and my hate reduction pet out. MT had a dirge for hate gain. Essence of Fear Allies: (04:46) 2551770 | 8922.27 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19346] Alle 107 | 316298 | 1141.87 CONJ Illu 4 | 264864 | 992.00 ME Trit 86 | 245117 | 921.49 CONJ 2 Numb 71 | 235376 | 891.58 RANGER Vinh 72 | 180366 | 673.01 MONK Kala 23 | 153336 | 572.15 ZERKER Kyri 1 | 139402 | 505.08 WIZARD Serr 7 | 127768 | 480.33 ASSASIN Nald 118 | 127491 | 463.60 SK Cadd 51 | 121859 | 438.34 GUARDIAN Oben 14 | 116717 | 438.79 WARLOCK Haka 119 | 110650 | 403.83 PALY Ozzi 0 | 94475 | 486.98 LVL 67 WIZARD Squi 92 | 74516 | 274.97 PALY Kiko 25 | 72681 | 269.19 DIRGE Zone parse Allies: (44:03) 27705751 | 10482.69 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19346] Alle 1105 | 3258368 | 1244.60 CONJ Illu 71 | 2929192 | 1112.49 ME Trit 586 | 2513888 | 1030.70 CONJ 2 Oben 410 | 2280394 | 868.06 WARLOCK Numb 680 | 2270545 | 867.95 RANGER Vinh 761 | 1914809 | 727.79 MONK Kyri 82 | 1825813 | 836.76 WIZARD 2 Nald 1703 | 1622815 | 627.78 SK Kala 273 | 1422236 | 539.54 ZERKER Haka 1373 | 1223147 | 580.24 PALY Cadd 503 | 1209253 | 458.05 GUARD Ozzi 0 | 1178738 | 449.04 LVL 67 WIZARD Squi 1051 | 1008961 | 382.47 PALY2 Serr 92 | 835416 | 317.53 ASSASIN Kiko 247 | 563016 | 215.22 DIRGE the first two encounters I was rooting the adds, and not much I could do as far as dps goes, only did about 600 and 800 dps on the first two because I didn't want to have a root or three break so I was aoe rooting and then single target rooting (ghetto mezzing) Also since the fights were so long without any regen I spent much time using vital conversion manastone and even essential intromission on myself, and of course using concussive and ceace when ever they refreshed to keep from pulling agro. Also wanted to take note that when I did pull agro the SK saved my behind numerous times by FD'ing me. It allowed me to pop back up in 5-10s and still make the dps parse, without his support I'd be much much lower on the zone parse. Here was a nice random trashmob when everything worked correctly and I'll add in ext dps for you slackers that dont want to do it yourself. the conj was fighting for 10s longer than I was which is why his ext dps is close to his dps. Actually the only other person in the encounter that fought for the same duration as me was the ranger, everyone else was in combat before me. Allies: (01:39) 1384538 | 13985.23 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-15381] Alle 68 | 168822 | 1795.98 DPS 1705.27 ext dps (conj) Illu 8 | 155046 | 1845.79 DPS 1566.12 ext dps (me)--hows that for 0 hate reduction! Trit 99 | 148341 | 1685.69 DPS 1498.39 ext dps (conj) Kyri 3 | 124483 | 1353.08 DPS 1257.40 ext dps (wizard2) Oben 11 | 123118 | 1352.95 DPS 1243.62 ext dps (warlock) Numb 20 | 93359 | 1111.42 DPS 943.02 ext dps (ranger) Vinh 32 | 78696 | 894.27 DPS 794.91 ext dps (monk) Nald 74 | 78091 | 848.82 DPS 788.80 ext dps (SK) Kala 12 | 75086 | 863.06 DPS 758.44 ext dps (zerker) Haka 100 | 64199 | 682.97 DPS 648.47 ext dps (paly) Cadd 16 | 58217 | 588.05 DPS 588.05 ext dps (guardian mt) Ozzi 0 | 40553 | 494.55 DPS 409.63 ext dps (wizzie 3) Squi 31 | 38208 | 406.47 DPS 385.94 ext dps (paly 2) Kiko 14 | 34961 | 406.52 DPS 353.14 ext dps (dirge) Serr 10 | 30341 | 344.78 DPS 306.47 ext dps (assasin) Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-20-2006 10:32 AMMessage Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-20-2006 10:39 AM

Victicu

08-21-2006, 03:21 AM

You guys dont have any Rogues?? Its gotta be pretty hard to parse high without at least one brigand. Also, tell your assassin to stop afk'ing with autoattack on.<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-21-2006, 10:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Victicus7 wrote: You guys dont have any Rogues?? Its gotta be pretty hard to parse high without at least one brigand. Also, tell your assassin to stop afk'ing with autoattack on. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nope no rogues, every single parse I've posted on these forums has been without a brigand(that I can recall), sometimes a swash comes along. I'd love to see what kind of raid dps we can push with one or two. The guild I raid with can do 15k ext dps without one when everyone is on their A game.

HerzenFunia

08-21-2006, 01:49 PM

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: Here's my last Lyceum run Buffs: NONE no hate reduction, no incombat regen, no troubador, no illusionist. (amends was on the warlock, and i forgot who the other person was who had it)I had on skywatcher robe and my hate reduction pet out. MT had a dirge for hate gain. Zone parse Allies: (44:03) 27705751 | 10482.69 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19346] Alle 1105 | 3258368 | 1244.60 CONJ Illu 71 | 2929192 | 1112.49 ME Trit 586 | 2513888 | 1030.70 CONJ 2 Oben 410 | 2280394 | 868.06 WARLOCK Numb 680 | 2270545 | 867.95 RANGER Vinh 761 | 1914809 | 727.79 MONK Kyri 82 | 1825813 | 836.76 WIZARD 2 Nald 1703 | 1622815 | 627.78 SK Kala 273 | 1422236 | 539.54 ZERKER Haka 1373 | 1223147 | 580.24 PALY Cadd 503 | 1209253 | 458.05 GUARD Ozzi 0 | 1178738 | 449.04 LVL 67 WIZARD Squi 1051 | 1008961 | 382.47 PALY2 Serr 92 | 835416 | 317.53 ASSASIN Kiko 247 | 563016 | 215.22 DIRGE <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Nice work man. This is shows what wizzies can do without support in Lyce and it's looking sweet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Btw how much times did you die?</DIV> <DIV>PS Oh i bet this assassin is a gnome <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Zyphius

08-21-2006, 06:10 PM

<blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote: even though it's just a little bit different give the combo a shot, try to always use ball of lava when ever it refreshes, and avoid using sunstrike, and firey convultions unless you have nothing else to cast and then use firey convultions before sunstrike. Also stand within 7.5 meters of the mob and use firestorm (even on single targets) when ever that is up. Typically I spend most of my time casting bol, irradiate, ice sheild, firestorm against singles. Firestorm gets me killed a lot on multi-mob encounters. I do love the spell, and use it all the time in groups, but I'm kind of scared of it in Labs, lol. I realize it's going to take some more experience before I get to the level you are.<HR>If you have a troubador, please please please make them put you with the troubador. also make sure the troubador is playing allegro and dont kill the messenger, along with incombat regen, and alins calming serenade(hate reduction song)We always have a troub, as he is the RL. However, we always have 2 or 3 more wizzies besides me (2 definates, and maybe one more PU). The three of us tend to swap around as who is in his group and who isn't. There are always at least one in the MT group, and at least one in his group. I don't remember which group I was in that raid.this raid your problem was hate reduction and hate gain on the MT. You cant expect to parse high without those.Understood. I will keep a record of group makeup and such so I can see where the big differences are.good. xhaviz's rocks. Try to get some friends to farm the ring event on temple grounds until you can get the robe yourself. the named pops ever 2.5 hoursWhich one is better to have most of the time?also good to know, you get the quest for the bone clasped girdle (heritage quest btw) by talking to sinephobus on the fear tainted island, its back by the thullian guards, you have to speak thullian to get the quest.grizzlefazzles walking stick comes from hailing the guy on the crash site in the bonemire, and involves going to the den of the devouror and killing the final boss mob, very very easy quest and can be done in one day.I have both of those quest, just haven't finished them. I will get moving on them. Is Grizzlefazzles' better to have than the wand of second life??again your problem seems to be more related to hate gain on mt and hate reduction on you.with amends I can still aoe my heart out (without fusion) on multi mob encounters and not draw aoe agro with glacial winds forge of ro or firestorm every time they refresh. This makes a large impact on your dps.I would suggest on any aoe situation, (2 or more mobs) to ask that the MT burn a taunt or two on the off tank mobs (in otherwords the ones the raid isn't burning down) this will help the *raid* do more aoe dps and in turn also help you.also if that isn't working to well try to stick to single targets untill the first guy is almost dead, then from that point on try chaining aoes, (put down forge of ro, use frigid gift and glacial winds, use surge of flames and firestorm) when they refresh and you may be able to live through it.Thanks for the tips! I'll keep working on it.

IllusiveThoughts

08-21-2006, 06:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: Here's my last Lyceum run Buffs: NONE no hate reduction, no incombat regen, no troubador, no illusionist. (amends was on the warlock, and i forgot who the other person was who had it)I had on skywatcher robe and my hate reduction pet out. MT had a dirge for hate gain. Zone parse Allies: (44:03) 27705751 | 10482.69 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19346] Alle 1105 | 3258368 | 1244.60 CONJ Illu 71 | 2929192 | 1112.49 ME Trit 586 | 2513888 | 1030.70 CONJ 2 Oben 410 | 2280394 | 868.06 WARLOCK Numb 680 | 2270545 | 867.95 RANGER Vinh 761 | 1914809 | 727.79 MONK Kyri 82 | 1825813 | 836.76 WIZARD 2 Nald 1703 | 1622815 | 627.78 SK Kala 273 | 1422236 | 539.54 ZERKER Haka 1373 | 1223147 | 580.24 PALY Cadd 503 | 1209253 | 458.05 GUARD Ozzi 0 | 1178738 | 449.04 LVL 67 WIZARD Squi 1051 | 1008961 | 382.47 PALY2 Serr 92 | 835416 | 317.53 ASSASIN Kiko 247 | 563016 | 215.22 DIRGE <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Nice work man. This is shows what wizzies can do without support in Lyce and it's looking sweet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Btw how much times did you die?</DIV> <DIV>PS Oh i bet this assassin is a gnome <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks, I had 10 deaths by the time we got tired and called the raid. I would of had more but the SK saved me like 5 or 6 times with FD.

IllusiveThoughts

08-21-2006, 06:28 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> putergod wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> Firestorm gets me killed a lot on multi-mob encounters. I do love the spell, and use it all the time in groups, but I'm kind of scared of it in Labs, lol. I realize it's going to take some more experience before I get to the level you are. <HR> No biggie, Just keep working at it. You may not want to go into aoe range and use firestorm on the firedrakes unless you have at least 6k hp to live through their aoe. Its beneficial to stand there because you can turn on auto attack (hey 20 dps is more than the next guy who isn't doing it) and you dont spend time positioning for firestorm / forge of ro. Just remember to use them both on single targets. <HR> putergod wrote: We always have a troub, as he is the RL. However, we always have 2 or 3 more wizzies besides me (2 definates, and maybe one more PU). The three of us tend to swap around as who is in his group and who isn't. There are always at least one in the MT group, and at least one in his group. I don't remember which group I was in that raid. <HR> It might be more beneficial to have all the sorcerors with the troubador, since you dont have more than one, and wizards / warlocks need the hate reduction the most. Once you start getting 2 troubs you can mix and match the groups a little bit more by putting a mele or two with the sorcerors. <HR> putergod wrote: Which one is better to have most of the time? <HR> Its situational, if you find your stuck with the short bus group and have no hate redudtion or find that even with hate reduction your starting to pull agro on big nukes or an aoe or two then your going to want to wear the skywatchers robe even if you start having to use vital conversion much more to make up for the lack of xhaviz's power proc. Not dieing is usually more important than running oop. <HR> putergod wrote: I have both of those quest, just haven't finished them. I will get moving on them. Is Grizzlefazzles' better to have than the wand of second life?? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Its situational. Your probably going to want to use grizzlefazzles on most of the trash mobs, and the wand on the named fights. You will want the health proc to keep you full so you can continuously use vital conversion without dropping too much hp, and the additional flowing thought will help. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Kelkirra

08-22-2006, 01:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: Here's my last Lyceum run Buffs: NONE no hate reduction, no incombat regen, no troubador, no illusionist. (amends was on the warlock, and i forgot who the other person was who had it)I had on skywatcher robe and my hate reduction pet out. MT had a dirge for hate gain. Essence of Fear Allies: (04:46) 2551770 | 8922.27 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19346] Alle 107 | 316298 | 1141.87 CONJ Illu 4 | 264864 | 992.00 ME Trit 86 | 245117 | 921.49 CONJ 2 Numb 71 | 235376 | 891.58 RANGER Vinh 72 | 180366 | 673.01 MONK Kala 23 | 153336 | 572.15 ZERKER Kyri 1 | 139402 | 505.08 WIZARD Serr 7 | 127768 | 480.33 ASSASIN Nald 118 | 127491 | 463.60 SK Cadd 51 | 121859 | 438.34 GUARDIAN Oben 14 | 116717 | 438.79 WARLOCK Haka 119 | 110650 | 403.83 PALY Ozzi 0 | 94475 | 486.98 LVL 67 WIZARD Squi 92 | 74516 | 274.97 PALY Kiko 25 | 72681 | 269.19 DIRGE Zone parse Allies: (44:03) 27705751 | 10482.69 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-19346] Alle 1105 | 3258368 | 1244.60 CONJ Illu 71 | 2929192 | 1112.49 ME Trit 586 | 2513888 | 1030.70 CONJ 2 Oben 410 | 2280394 | 868.06 WARLOCK Numb 680 | 2270545 | 867.95 RANGER Vinh 761 | 1914809 | 727.79 MONK Kyri 82 | 1825813 | 836.76 WIZARD 2 Nald 1703 | 1622815 | 627.78 SK Kala 273 | 1422236 | 539.54 ZERKER Haka 1373 | 1223147 | 580.24 PALY Cadd 503 | 1209253 | 458.05 GUARD Ozzi 0 | 1178738 | 449.04 LVL 67 WIZARD Squi 1051 | 1008961 | 382.47 PALY2 Serr 92 | 835416 | 317.53 ASSASIN Kiko 247 | 563016 | 215.22 DIRGE the first two encounters I was rooting the adds, and not much I could do as far as dps goes, only did about 600 and 800 dps on the first two because I didn't want to have a root or three break so I was aoe rooting and then single target rooting (ghetto mezzing) Also since the fights were so long without any regen I spent much time using vital conversion manastone and even essential intromission on myself, and of course using concussive and ceace when ever they refreshed to keep from pulling agro. Also wanted to take note that when I did pull agro the SK saved my behind numerous times by FD'ing me. It allowed me to pop back up in 5-10s and still make the dps parse, without his support I'd be much much lower on the zone parse. Here was a nice random trashmob when everything worked correctly and I'll add in ext dps for you slackers that dont want to do it yourself. the conj was fighting for 10s longer than I was which is why his ext dps is close to his dps. Actually the only other person in the encounter that fought for the same duration as me was the ranger, everyone else was in combat before me. Allies: (01:39) 1384538 | 13985.23 [HH Kyrika-Fusion-15381] Alle 68 | 168822 | 1795.98 DPS 1705.27 ext dps (conj) Illu 8 | 155046 | 1845.79 DPS 1566.12 ext dps (me)--hows that for 0 hate reduction! Trit 99 | 148341 | 1685.69 DPS 1498.39 ext dps (conj) Kyri 3 | 124483 | 1353.08 DPS 1257.40 ext dps (wizard2) Oben 11 | 123118 | 1352.95 DPS 1243.62 ext dps (warlock) Numb 20 | 93359 | 1111.42 DPS 943.02 ext dps (ranger) Vinh 32 | 78696 | 894.27 DPS 794.91 ext dps (monk) Nald 74 | 78091 | 848.82 DPS 788.80 ext dps (SK) Kala 12 | 75086 | 863.06 DPS 758.44 ext dps (zerker) Haka 100 | 64199 | 682.97 DPS 648.47 ext dps (paly) Cadd 16 | 58217 | 588.05 DPS 588.05 ext dps (guardian mt) Ozzi 0 | 40553 | 494.55 DPS 409.63 ext dps (wizzie 3) Squi 31 | 38208 | 406.47 DPS 385.94 ext dps (paly 2) Kiko 14 | 34961 | 406.52 DPS 353.14 ext dps (dirge) Serr 10 | 30341 | 344.78 DPS 306.47 ext dps (assasin) Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-20-2006 10:32 AM Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-20-2006 10:39 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> You can thank me later considering that most of my time was revolved around FDing you, debuffing, warding and interceding. -_-

IllusiveThoughts

08-22-2006, 07:40 AM

Got to raid with a raiding guild tonight for Halls of Seeing I'm not going to post names like I usually do Since I didn't ask if I could post the parse, and I'm going to leave them annon, since from talking to the guild leader some people were slacking, and they didn't have their normal set up. Buffs: 0 passive hate reduction buffs (only had synergism) and had vim from the fury. I used skywatchers robe and garg pet. I also died 14 times, or I would of parsed higher (some fights of mine were pitiful at 600 ish dps with the death) MT had a dirge and swash for hate transfer. ***zone parse*** Allies: (01:01:14) 43546510 | 11852.62 [HH Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-46311] Illu(me) 134 | 4312849 | 1179.02 DPS / EXT DPS 1173.88 Assasin 1690 | 3719189 | 1022.88 DPS / EXT DPS 1012.30 Necro 549 | 3454720 | 945.98 DPS / EXT DPS 940.32 Conjuror 597 | 3366385 | 917.52 DPS / EXT DPS 916.27 Ranger 401 | 2754796 | 751.65 DPS / EXT DPS 749.81 Ranger 785 | 2651977 | 729.97 DPS / EXT DPS 721.82 Wizard 398 | 2542295 | 942.29 DPS / EXT DPS 691.97 (started late) Brigand 632 | 2260287 | 915.47 DPS / EXT DPS 615.21 (started late) Guardian MT 472 | 2147849 | 585.72 DPS / EXT PS 584.61 Zerker 438 | 2133297 | 581.60 DPS / EXT DPS 580.65 Swash 816 | 2028459 | 653.08 DPS / EXT DPS 552.11 Illusionist 103 | 1759090 | 483.27 DPS / EXT DPS 478.79 Shadow Knight 1456 | 1692706 | 476.68 DPS / EXT DPS 460.73 too much work removing names and adding in ext dps for you all so just have to live with the zone parse. they cleared whole zone all named. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-21-2006 08:41 PM

ailees

08-22-2006, 06:48 PM

>IT : Allies: (01:01:14) 43546510 | 11852.62 [HH Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-46311]Illu(me) 134 | 4312849 | 1179.02 DPS / EXT DPS 1173.881:01:14 is full fight time I guess, but I don't see what's the 134 after names, I tried to find it in your post(s) here but did not succeed.<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-22-2006, 08:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: >IT : Allies: (01:01:14) 43546510 | 11852.62 [HH Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-46311] Illu(me) 134 | 4312849 | 1179.02 DPS / EXT DPS 1173.88 1:01:14 is full fight time I guess, but I don't see what's the 134 after names, I tried to find it in your post(s) here but did not succeed. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> yes thats the zone parse. the first number after the name is the # of critical hits recorded by the parser. Not always a true # since dot ticks count as another critical hit.

Kelkirra

08-24-2006, 01:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: >IT : Allies: (01:01:14) 43546510 | 11852.62 [HH Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-46311] Illu(me) 134 | 4312849 | 1179.02 DPS / EXT DPS 1173.88 1:01:14 is full fight time I guess, but I don't see what's the 134 after names, I tried to find it in your post(s) here but did not succeed. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> yes thats the zone parse. the first number after the name is the # of critical hits recorded by the parser. Not always a true # since dot ticks count as another critical hit. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Shhhhhhhh. Don't tell ppl this. How else do you think I got over 9K crits our last time fighting AP before we killed Vyemm O_O.

IllusiveThoughts

08-24-2006, 02:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sarasoon wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: >IT : Allies: (01:01:14) 43546510 | 11852.62 [HH Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-46311] Illu(me) 134 | 4312849 | 1179.02 DPS / EXT DPS 1173.88 1:01:14 is full fight time I guess, but I don't see what's the 134 after names, I tried to find it in your post(s) here but did not succeed. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> yes thats the zone parse. the first number after the name is the # of critical hits recorded by the parser. Not always a true # since dot ticks count as another critical hit. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Shhhhhhhh. Don't tell ppl this. How else do you think I got over 9K crits our last time fighting AP before we killed Vyemm O_O. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> your a crit making machine. A crit factory, with little crtlets pumping out crit after crit while working overtime. I've never seen another class have so many crits on a zone parse. If I had your # of crits I think I would die every fight. (but be a really happy dead wizard) I think my critlets work for me after they get home from working for you, once their all tired and sore and drained from a full day's critting.

Kelkirra

08-24-2006, 02:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sarasoon wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: >IT : Allies: (01:01:14) 43546510 | 11852.62 [HH Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-46311] Illu(me) 134 | 4312849 | 1179.02 DPS / EXT DPS 1173.88 1:01:14 is full fight time I guess, but I don't see what's the 134 after names, I tried to find it in your post(s) here but did not succeed. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> yes thats the zone parse. the first number after the name is the # of critical hits recorded by the parser. Not always a true # since dot ticks count as another critical hit. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Shhhhhhhh. Don't tell ppl this. How else do you think I got over 9K crits our last time fighting AP before we killed Vyemm O_O. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> your a crit making machine. A crit factory, with little crtlets pumping out crit after crit while working overtime. I've never seen another class have so many crits on a zone parse. If I had your # of crits I think I would die every fight. (but be a really happy dead wizard) I think my critlets work for me after they get home from working for you, once their all tired and sore and drained from a full day's critting. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Well, i have to be good at something since I can't tank and all =D. Besides, I've already said that I would LOVE to see you have my crit chance and rate. Dude, if you could ever find a tank that stood a chance at holding agro off of that you would be breaking 10K DPS yourself on a raid. O_O

Car

08-24-2006, 06:31 AM

<DIV> <DIV>Here are some of the parses for Lyceum tonight. I had a troub in my group + corcerer deaggro for most of the night.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2nd number is EXTDPS and 3rd is DPS.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:19)1570556|19,880.46[me-Fusion-21788] - Single Trash Mob me 166999|2114|2319 conj 162958|2063|2116 warlock 151618|1919|2166 conj 151043|1912|2014 swash 128019|1620|1730 brig 117608|1489|1568 conj 114803|1453|1511 brig 109378|1385|1478 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:15)1477598|19,701.31[me-Fusion-25997] - trash 4 mobs me 182655|2435|2609 warlock 146785|1957|2294 conj 145564|1941|2141 conj 140786|1877|2133 conj 134876|1798|1900 swash 126577|1688|1834 swash 109335|1458|1519 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:51)751132|14,728.08[me-Fusion-21788] - Single Trash swash 98040|1922|2228 me 85600|1678|1991 brig 74773|1466|1626 conj 68958|1352|1499 warlock 64794|1270|1543 conj 55982|1098|1302 conj 45740|897|1475 bruiser 44602|875|1062</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:31)1510653|16,600.58[me-Fusion-23520] conj 195270|2146|2244 me 187601|2062|2207 conj 162076|1781|1907 warlock 154354|1696|1795 conj 152405|1675|1712 swash 140938|1549|1620 swash 132145|1452|1519 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:43)921269|21,424.86[me-Fusion-24027] - trash x 4 me 111585|2595|3016 conj 100474|2337|2576 swash 98974|2302|2538 conj 78332|1822|1958 warlock 70434|1638|1957 conj 62884|1462|1572 swash 61886|1439|1629 ranger 56382|1311|1375 brig 49251|1145|1263</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:37)1052108|28,435.35[me-Fusion-15361] - big heroic encounter warlock 167060|4515|5966 conj142373|3848|5273 me 130244|3520|5210 conj 111608|3016|3849 conj 101655|2747|3631 pally 63519|1717|2049 ranger 60407|1633|2157 swash 52326|1414|1688 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Allies: (03:26)3449198|16,743.68[me-Ice Nova-20280] - Gnillaw the Demented warlock 305748|1484|1514 me 304231|1477|1514 swash 274138|1331|1357 brig 260738|1266|1310 ranger 252917|1228|1252 conj 243757|1183|1195 brig 242987|1180|1215 swash 235509|1143|1160 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (04:24)3219802|12,196.22[me-Fusion-23640] - Gnorbl the Playful conj 361349|1369|1379 ranger 301453|1142|1178 conj 274217|1039|1055 warlock 272901|1034|1058 conj 239233|906|938 me 237726|900|929 brig 235287|891|908 swash 219029|830|856</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (04:36)2841425|10,295.02[me-Ice Nova-17871] - The Priest dude ranger 349690|1267|1295 swash 298901|1083|1095 me 264299|958|1005 brig 261963|949|977 swash 260634|944|965 brig 228916|829|842 conj 227945|826|912 warlock 199799|724|737</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and here is the zone parse for the night...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (49:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />46899322|15,798.25[me-Fusion-27087] me 4430277|1492|1501 warlock 4226296|1424|1429 conj 4208120|1418|1422 conj 4190399|1412|1416 swash 4167617|1404|1409 conj 3370179|1135|1138 brig 3093303|1042|1046 brig 2986098|1006|1008 swash 2768089|932|934 </DIV></DIV> Haze - VagabondsMessage Edited by Carew on 08-23-2006 08:10 PM

IllusiveThoughts

08-24-2006, 08:38 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Carew wrote: <DIV> <DIV>Here are some of the parses for Lyceum tonight. I had a troub in my group + corcerer deaggro for most of the night.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and here is the zone parse for the night...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (49:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />46899322|15,798.25[me-Fusion-27087] me 4430277|1492|1501 warlock 4226296|1424|1429 conj 4208120|1418|1422 conj 4190399|1412|1416 swash 4167617|1404|1409 conj 3370179|1135|1138 brig 3093303|1042|1046 brig 2986098|1006|1008 swash 2768089|932|934 </DIV></DIV> Haze - Vagabonds Message Edited by Carew on 08-23-2006 08:10 PM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>mmmmm 2 brigands, its been a long time since i've been properly set up with buffs and had a brigand, its amazing the kind of dps we can push out when there is just one, 2 would be just crazy, nice work topping the zone parse and doing just short of 1500 zone dps! keep it up.

Zyphius

08-24-2006, 06:10 PM

<blockquote><hr>Carew wrote:<DIV>Allies: (00:37)1052108|28,435.35[me-Fusion-15361] - big heroic encounter warlock 167060|4515|5966 conj142373|3848|5273 me 130244|3520|5210 conj 111608|3016|3849 conj 101655|2747|3631 pally 63519|1717|2049 ranger 60407|1633|2157 swash 52326|1414|1688 </DIV></blockquote>Holy crapola!!! 5k DPS??????I don't think I have EVER came ANYWHERE NEAR that!!!

IllusiveThoughts

08-24-2006, 06:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> putergod wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Carew wrote: <DIV>Allies: (00:37)1052108|28,435.35[me-Fusion-15361] - big heroic encounter warlock 167060|4515|5966 conj142373|3848|5273 me 130244|3520|5210 conj 111608|3016|3849 conj 101655|2747|3631 pally 63519|1717|2049 ranger 60407|1633|2157 swash 52326|1414|1688 </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> Holy crapola!!! 5k DPS?????? I don't think I have EVER came ANYWHERE NEAR that!!! <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> most everyone parses high on this encounter, there are 8 heroic mobs, and its a button mashing fest, on who can push the right buttons the fastest. But yeah not to discredit carew 5k is nice dps.

Car

08-24-2006, 07:20 PM

<DIV>I was moved to the paladin group just for that fight and went insane. Too bad fusion didnt hit for 25k accross the board, it would have been a bit higher</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Haze - Vagabonds</DIV>

MeridianR

08-24-2006, 07:24 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>Carew wrote:<div></div> <div>I was moved to the paladin group just for that fight and went insane. Too bad fusion didnt hit for 25k accross the board, it would have been a bit higher</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Haze - Vagabonds</div><hr></blockquote><3</div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-24-2006, 08:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Carew wrote: <DIV>I was moved to the paladin group just for that fight and went insane. Too bad fusion didnt hit for 25k accross the board, it would have been a bit higher</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Haze - Vagabonds</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> did phov end up pealing agro at the end? (2000 dps + 2050 hate transferred dps from the wizzie = 4050 dps worth of hate on the paly)

Car

08-24-2006, 08:24 PM

<DIV>Yeah he had aggro on all the mobs the entire fight. Thats the reason i was moved in there, so everyone can go nuts and dps wouldnt die. I dont think any dps died that fight hehe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Haze - Vagabonds</DIV>

Trojan7474

08-24-2006, 10:54 PM

<DIV>HoS last night Zone-wide</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DPS Allies: (52:50) 16345 dps conj 1395 (1271 crits) AssN 1319 (1557 crits) Nec 1228 (1202 crits) Wiz 1225 (1036 crits) ME </DIV> <DIV>Warlock 1151 (704 crits) Brig 1142 (1222 crits) AssN 1116 (1060 crits) Rang 1111 (491 crits) Warlock 919 (868 crits) Brig 808 (820 crits) Brig 800 (775 crits) zerker 667 (1046 crits) Illus 650 (410 crits) SK 601 (1295 crits) Gaurd 504 (1181 crits) No one under 500dps was posted</DIV>Message Edited by Trojan7474 on 08-24-2006 11:55 AM

IllusiveThoughts

08-24-2006, 11:06 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trojan7474 wrote: <DIV>HoS last night Zone-wide</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DPS Allies: (52:50) 16345 dps conj 1395 (1271 crits) AssN 1319 (1557 crits) Nec 1228 (1202 crits) Wiz 1225 (1036 crits) ME </DIV> <DIV>Warlock 1151 (704 crits) Brig 1142 (1222 crits) AssN 1116 (1060 crits) Rang 1111 (491 crits) Warlock 919 (868 crits) Brig 808 (820 crits) Brig 800 (775 crits) zerker 667 (1046 crits) Illus 650 (410 crits) SK 601 (1295 crits) Gaurd 504 (1181 crits) No one under 500dps was posted</DIV> Message Edited by Trojan7474 on 08-24-2006 11:55 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nice work keep those parses comming, if you could list what buffs you had it would be helpful like (troub buffs, harmonious link, synergims, amends, moderate, self buffed flowing thought, or group buffed in combat power regen ect.)

Trojan7474

08-25-2006, 09:24 AM

wiz= t1 dps it not u blow

Car

08-25-2006, 05:35 PM

<DIV>I guess you blow because you got beat by 2 t2 dps in the zone parse ~.~</DIV>

Jblaze2

08-25-2006, 10:48 PM

owned?<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-25-2006, 10:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jblaze2 wrote: owned? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I dont quite know whats going on here, but lets keep the bickering out of it.

IllusiveThoughts

08-27-2006, 11:39 AM

Labs today we split up into two raids since last week had such high attendance. Still hoping to one day do labs with a brig or two again.(been like 2 months) Buffs: allegro, dont kill the messenger, arias, alins, harmonious link, amends, synergism, vim MT had a coercer for hate gain. ***zone parse*** Allies: (01:01:24) 34902353 | 9474.04 [HH Illu-Fusion-22778] Illu 703 | 5269103 | 1431.04 me (1430.27 ext dps) Numb 1237 | 3045677 | 829.66 ranger Haun 609 | 2754285 | 750.49 ranger Alle 552 | 2751184 | 940.90 conj (went ld about 3/4 through) Acce 581 | 2320101 | 632.87 2 boxing necro Nald 4900 | 2252165 | 611.84 MT Band 280 | 2104468 | 576.25 zerker Fuzz 500 | 2066044 | 562.34 69 assasin Mara 738 | 1946831 | 530.04 bruiser Vinh 693 | 1773191 | 483.16 monk Sand 58 | 1503226 | 410.16 coercer ***pardas Predd*** Allies: (01:5<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1178411 | 9986.53 [HH Illu-Fusion-16644] Illu 20 | 162636 | 1505.89 me Alle 72 | 125299 | 1118.74 conj Mara 45 | 103038 | 962.97 bruiser Numb 36 | 94369 | 916.20 ranger Vinh 42 | 88284 | 781.27 monk Fuzz 27 | 86746 | 867.46 assasin Haun 16 | 83224 | 808.00 ranger Acce 30 | 75757 | 742.72 2boxing nec Nald 116 | 69772 | 601.48 SK mt Soul 3 | 62092 | 640.12 necro Dami 0 | 44007 | 396.46 ??? Sand 0 | 34470 | 387.30 coercer Tero 5 | 32695 | 305.56 paly Band 2 | 31479 | 533.54 zerker ***The Slavering Alzid*** Allies: (02:04) 1454688 | 11731.35 [HH Illu-Fusion-14246] Illu 48 | 242553 | 2021.28 (me 1956.07 ext dps) Alle 5 | 203587 | 1755.06 conj Numb 49 | 133168 | 1256.30 ranger Band 22 | 122144 | 1080.92 zerker Haun 24 | 102414 | 1045.04 ranger Nald 321 | 99116 | 832.91 SK mt Fuzz 26 | 89365 | 859.28 assasin Mara 20 | 86403 | 785.48 bruiser Vinh 18 | 81766 | 771.38 monk Acce 15 | 76712 | 833.83 2 boxing necro Soul 2 | 48814 | 503.24 necro Dami 1 | 44104 | 445.50 ??? Sept 7 | 38109 | 388.87 ??? ***Domm trio*** Allies: (02:33) 1451628 | 9487.77 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-15339] Illu 24 | 191768 | 1278.45 me Alle 61 | 173051 | 1177.22 conj Haun 35 | 141529 | 1040.65 ranger Numb 56 | 115688 | 809.01 ranger Fuzz 27 | 99379 | 694.96 assasin Nald 243 | 97460 | 645.43 sk mt Mara 8 | 91834 | 651.31 bruiser Vinh 33 | 82270 | 600.51 monk Soul 2 | 76542 | 566.98 nec Sand 3 | 73630 | 545.41 coercer Acce 8 | 63740 | 439.59 nec Dami 0 | 51896 | 373.35 ??? Band 1 | 44461 | 396.97 zerker Mila 1 | 42269 | 310.80 illusionist Tero 8 | 31968 | 229.99 paly ***The uncaged Alzid*** Allies: (04:43) 2294807 | 8108.86 [HH Haun-Sniper Shot-15039] Illu 46 | 368380 | 1315.64 me Numb 94 | 239896 | 888.50 ranger Mara 36 | 195150 | 714.84 bruiser Alle 54 | 185467 | 679.37 conj Acce 58 | 178447 | 651.27 nec Haun 34 | 173554 | 664.96 ranger Nald 407 | 172079 | 618.99 mt Sand 0 | 125600 | 477.57 coercer Band 11 | 125439 | 457.81 zerker Vinh 33 | 101594 | 370.78 monk Fuzz 30 | 74118 | 303.76 assasin Soul 3 | 67128 | 250.48 nec Mila 5 | 54289 | 198.86 illusionist Pand 24 | 49566 | 178.94 fury Alex 14 | 42685 | 159.87 troub Dami 1 | 36746 | 139.72 ??? Sept 2 | 34658 | 129.81 ??? Tero 5 | 23281 | 96.60 paly ***Uustalastus Xiterrax*** Allies: (02:4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1333953 | 7940.20 [HH Illu-Fusion-17991] Illu 28 | 266875 | 1689.08 me Acce 13 | 159608 | 1064.05 necro Soul 4 | 130362 | 924.55 necro Nald 196 | 96202 | 601.26 mt Alle 17 | 86925 | 553.66 conj Sand 1 | 68602 | 454.32 coercer Numb 50 | 67218 | 445.15 ranger Pand 36 | 61134 | 379.71 fury Fuzz 31 | 59677 | 403.22 assasin Haun 13 | 52863 | 364.57 ranger ***Doomsworn Zatrakh*** Allies: (02:57) 1526229 | 8622.76 [HH Illu-Fusion-17184] Illu 46 | 194946 | 1113.98 me Haun 36 | 113622 | 728.35 ranger Band 7 | 104841 | 624.05 zerker Mara 42 | 102013 | 637.58 bruiser Sand 0 | 82864 | 514.68 coercer Nald 181 | 78809 | 450.34 MT Acce 19 | 78678 | 507.60 necro Fuzz 21 | 71468 | 655.67 assasin Soul 2 | 52342 | 333.39 nec Vinh 14 | 48552 | 297.87 monk ***Corsolander*** Allies: (03:01) 1135624 | 6274.17 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-16083] Illu 17 | 198455 | 1121.22 me Numb 35 | 101902 | 625.17 ranger Haun 22 | 96183 | 672.61 ranger Nald 158 | 95896 | 538.74 mt Sand 0 | 91005 | 587.13 coercer Acce 9 | 77266 | 508.33 necro Tanj 29 | 69212 | 416.94 new conj Soul 0 | 66898 | 437.24 necro Mila 0 | 59985 | 363.55 illusionist Band 3 | 55898 | 332.73 zerker Mara 22 | 46060 | 315.48 bruiser Fuzz 0 | 33137 | 207.11 assasin ***Euktrzkai Amdaatk*** Allies: (01:05) 733252 | 11280.80 [HH Illu-Fusion-12593] Illu 7 | 116049 | 1871.76 (me 1785 ext dps) Numb 25 | 72251 | 1313.66 ranger Mara 19 | 71324 | 1188.73 bruiser Vinh 18 | 60479 | 1042.74 monk Fuzz 18 | 57388 | 1103.62 assasin Haun 3 | 55676 | 1184.60 ranger Acce 14 | 44627 | 743.78 necro Nald 72 | 39333 | 634.40 mt Band 1 | 37628 | 637.76 zerker Pand 18 | 30237 | 657.33 fury Tanj 0 | 24886 | 452.47 conj Sand 3 | 18385 | 417.84 coercer Soul 0 | 16189 | 376.49 nec Tero 6 | 15633 | 306.53 paly weren't able to kill vyemm today. ***random high dps parse*** Allies: (01:03) 736282 | 11687.02 [HH Illu-Fusion-16833] Illu 10 | 136160 | 2307.80 me (2161 ext dps) Alle 8 | 106254 | 2213.63 conj (1686 ext dps) Band 10 | 55839 | 1213.89 zerker Fuzz 16 | 47881 | 1040.89 assasin Numb 13 | 46239 | 963.31 ranger Nald 92 | 43405 | 748.36 sk mt Soul 3 | 42582 | 946.27 necro Haun 5 | 38953 | 998.79 ranger Sand 0 | 31094 | 740.33 coercer Pand 7 | 28979 | 616.57 fury Dami 0 | 23242 | 464.84 ??? Acce 4 | 21289 | 495.09 necro Mara 0 | 19700 | 703.57 bruiser Vinh 2 | 18654 | 388.63 monk Sept 5 | 18508 | 393.79 ??? Alex 4 | 13677 | 297.33 troub Mila 0 | 13211 | 357.05 illusioist Tero 2 | 10318 | 245.67 paly ***nother random parse*** Allies: (01:1<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 848698 | 10880.74 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-15524] Illu 17 | 149199 | 2043.82 me(1912.81 ext dps) Alle 12 | 115975 | 1588.70 conj Band 19 | 76499 | 1108.68 zerker Numb 21 | 68606 | 1039.49 ranger Haun 17 | 62569 | 1060.49 ranger Mara 32 | 62031 | 939.86 bruiser Nald 77 | 50625 | 684.12 MT Vinh 15 | 45570 | 660.43 monk Fuzz 3 | 43936 | 720.26 assasin Sand 11 | 37163 | 609.23 coercer Pand 9 | 27228 | 544.56 fury Mila 0 | 21753 | 350.85 illusioinst Soul 2 | 18185 | 386.91 ??? Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 08-27-2006 12:49 AM

Koehianna

08-27-2006, 08:18 PM

Wow!!That's amazing you can do over 2k DPS on 2 minute fight.<div></div>

Kelkirra

08-27-2006, 10:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Koehianna wrote: Wow!! That's amazing you can do over 2k DPS on 2 minute fight. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I'm also amazed considering our raid force last night was pretty much far from par. Mostly ppl that had either never raided with us before or who don't raid with us that often. I think we made excellent progress with the force that we were using. That, and Illu is a freaking DPS machine.

Nethis

08-29-2006, 04:15 AM

Yeah how is that possible? Okay, so I don't have the best gear in the game.. far from it in fact. My INT is around 450 and I have 4/4/4/4/1 in WIS. Fusion, Nova, and Ball are Adept III and I consistantly get around 500 DPS in raids. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Would another 70 INT make that much of a difference? Also, how do you not pull aggro doing that much DPS? INT line?<div></div>

Koehianna

08-29-2006, 07:04 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>Nethis wrote:Yeah how is that possible? Okay, so I don't have the best gear in the game.. far from it in fact. My INT is around 450 and I have 4/4/4/4/1 in WIS. Fusion, Nova, and Ball are Adept III and I consistantly get around 500 DPS in raids. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Would another 70 INT make that much of a difference? Also, how do you not pull aggro doing that much DPS? INT line?<div></div><hr></blockquote>Ouch!! 500 DPS in a raid for a wizard?!I don't know what to say because I don't know exactly what gear you have and what spells you're casting. But for a T7 raiding wizard, max int is a must.</div>

IllusiveThoughts

08-29-2006, 07:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nethis wrote: Yeah how is that possible? Okay, so I don't have the best gear in the game.. far from it in fact. My INT is around 450 and I have 4/4/4/4/1 in WIS. Fusion, Nova, and Ball are Adept III and I consistantly get around 500 DPS in raids. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Would another 70 INT make that much of a difference? Also, how do you not pull aggro doing that much DPS? INT line? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> In short yes. Its a combination of things going against you. the difference from adept 3 to m1 is about 16% spell dmg, AND much less resists. I do not know what it is from app4 or adept 1 to master 1 because I haven't had any wizard adept1's in a loooooong time. I suggest you scroll back and read the conversation with putergod and myself (in this thread) to give you clues on how to increase your dps (dont feel like typing it all again)

Dejah

08-29-2006, 09:34 PM

Kelkirra

08-30-2006, 11:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nethis wrote: Yeah how is that possible? Okay, so I don't have the best gear in the game.. far from it in fact. My INT is around 450 and I have 4/4/4/4/1 in WIS. Fusion, Nova, and Ball are Adept III and I consistantly get around 500 DPS in raids. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Would another 70 INT make that much of a difference? Also, how do you not pull aggro doing that much DPS? INT line? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I'll leave the experts to tell you how to increase your DPS, but he's not pulling agro due to a coercer in my group and having the buffs that he lists before he posts each of the parses. I honestly hope that you are not pulling agro from any tank with just 500 DPS. If you are pulling agro with anything less than around 1300 or so with a hate buffing class on your MT then you might want to try tanking to he/she about their quality of taunts/CA's/Spells and how often they are taunting. I've held up to 15K raid DPS pretty easily and I've heard of tanks even holding 20K+ raid wide DPS, but these tanks also have something I don't . . .hate procing gear =(. One day. . . . . . . .

IllusiveThoughts

08-30-2006, 06:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sarasoon wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nethis wrote: Yeah how is that possible? Okay, so I don't have the best gear in the game.. far from it in fact. My INT is around 450 and I have 4/4/4/4/1 in WIS. Fusion, Nova, and Ball are Adept III and I consistantly get around 500 DPS in raids. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Would another 70 INT make that much of a difference? Also, how do you not pull aggro doing that much DPS? INT line? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I'll leave the experts to tell you how to increase your DPS, but he's not pulling agro due to a coercer in my group and having the buffs that he lists before he posts each of the parses. I honestly hope that you are not pulling agro from any tank with just 500 DPS. If you are pulling agro with anything less than around 1300 or so with a hate buffing class on your MT then you might want to try tanking to he/she about their quality of taunts/CA's/Spells and how often they are taunting. I've held up to 15K raid DPS pretty easily and I've heard of tanks even holding 20K+ raid wide DPS, but these tanks also have something I don't . . .hate procing gear =(. One day. . . . . . . . <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> actually naldir you held about 17k raid dps with no hate gain last raid, and on the named fights about 1300 dps from me with no hate reduction. With a only coercer you can typically hold 1500 dps and spikes by me to 1800-2000 (as observed in the mini window on act) with no hate reduction on me.

Traxor789

08-30-2006, 08:25 PM

I think i have saw one maybe summoner break 2k?? Ahh , but almost every parse has a Fusion in it...........

IllusiveThoughts

08-30-2006, 08:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Traxor789 wrote: I think i have saw one maybe summoner break 2k?? Ahh , but almost every parse has a Fusion in it........... <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> yep, I tend to not waste a fusion on a trash mob if its ready just before the named. I'll save it for the named fight instead. Another thing to notice about me is my high hits are actually pretty pathetic. 1. no brigand = low high hits 2. my aa choices, without catalyst i hardly ever have those big 20k hits unless I crit fusion or ice nova with free hand (pretty rare since my usual base crit chance on raids without troub is only 5.9%) i do however tend to cast a lot more spells than the other sorcerors so it makes up for it and then some.

Kelkirra

08-31-2006, 01:42 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sarasoon wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nethis wrote: Yeah how is that possible? Okay, so I don't have the best gear in the game.. far from it in fact. My INT is around 450 and I have 4/4/4/4/1 in WIS. Fusion, Nova, and Ball are Adept III and I consistantly get around 500 DPS in raids. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Would another 70 INT make that much of a difference? Also, how do you not pull aggro doing that much DPS? INT line? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I'll leave the experts to tell you how to increase your DPS, but he's not pulling agro due to a coercer in my group and having the buffs that he lists before he posts each of the parses. I honestly hope that you are not pulling agro from any tank with just 500 DPS. If you are pulling agro with anything less than around 1300 or so with a hate buffing class on your MT then you might want to try tanking to he/she about their quality of taunts/CA's/Spells and how often they are taunting. I've held up to 15K raid DPS pretty easily and I've heard of tanks even holding 20K+ raid wide DPS, but these tanks also have something I don't . . .hate procing gear =(. One day. . . . . . . . <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> actually naldir you held about 17k raid dps with no hate gain last raid, and on the named fights about 1300 dps from me with no hate reduction. With a only coercer you can typically hold 1500 dps and spikes by me to 1800-2000 (as observed in the mini window on act) with no hate reduction on me. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Maybe this is sad, but I wasn't paying attention to hardly any of the parses that night. O_O [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].

IllusiveThoughts

09-02-2006, 09:35 AM

Our last lyceum run today, made it to vullicide but ended up wiping due to being tired and forgetting a flower or two. only made 2 attempts both got him to 19% or so. Buffs: alins, arias, synergism, 28 ft from troubie, and 35ish from myself and 3.6% allegro, troub doesn't have dont kill the messenger yet. MT was a paly, had conj pet with amends and dirge for hate gain. ***Essence of Fear*** Allies: (03:49) 2197883 | 9597.74 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-16134] Illu 10 | 269336 | 1241.18 me Trit 104 | 237852 | 1076.25 conj Alle 67 | 217498 | 962.38 conj Fuzz 32 | 168059 | 804.11 assasin Numb 60 | 157578 | 726.17 ranger Vinh 70 | 133047 | 613.12 monk Mara 86 | 120343 | 562.35 bruiser Oben 20 | 111098 | 561.10 warlock **ommited under 500 dps** ***Gnilaw the demented*** Allies: (05:13) 2925971 | 9348.15 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-16037] Illu 20 | 387741 | 1292.47 me Numb 103 | 279734 | 954.72 ranger Alle 55 | 268575 | 883.47 conj Trit 99 | 219444 | 729.05 conj Fuzz 50 | 207085 | 690.28 assasin Oben 45 | 198687 | 682.77 warlock Mara 111 | 189436 | 650.98 bruiser Band 17 | 168285 | 576.32 zerker **ommited under 500 dps** ***ZONE PARSE*** Allies: (55:49) 39088304 | 11671.63 [HH Illu-Fusion-19929] Illu 299 | 4805003 | 1436.04 dps 1434.76 ext dps me Alle 741 | 4380903 | 1309.69 dps 1308.12 ext dps conj Trit 541 | 3481124 | 1042.25 dps 1039.45 ext dps conj Oben 650 | 3447234 | 1030.87 dps 1029.33 ext dps warlock Numb 894 | 2795812 | 843.38 dps 834.82 ext dps ranger Fuzz 444 | 2450194 | 733.81 dps 731.62 ext dps assasin Band 354 | 2371645 | 710.07 dps 708.17 ext dps zerker Vinh 947 | 2142470 | 645.32 dps 645.32 ext dps monk Haka 2214 | 1894028 | 566.23 dps 565.55 ext dps paly Mara 1100 | 1833079 | 552.47 dps 547.35 ext dps bruiser ***highest random trash parse*** Allies: (01:4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1480680 | 13710.00 [HH Fuzzzy-Decapitate-17863] Illu 22 | 216814 | 2382.57 dps 2007.54 ext dps me Alle 42 | 185176 | 2012.78 dps 1714.59 ext dps conj Trit 5 | 164745 | 1664.09 conj Oben 32 | 124479 | 1398.64 warlock Fuzz 31 | 106534 | 1197.01 assasin Numb 30 | 102910 | 1319.36 ranger Mara 68 | 86114 | 967.57 bruiser Band 15 | 85754 | 952.82 zerker Vinh 21 | 81677 | 887.79 monk Etho 23 | 73011 | 695.34 paly MT Haka 91 | 68784 | 681.03 paly Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 09-01-2006 10:38 PM

frigginfragged

09-03-2006, 08:46 AM

<DIV>my favorite</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>some random trash mobs in halls i believe</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(01:02) | 16,913.87 me-9683 ----> no catalyst or freehand (had already used it) me 2,071.97 Ranger 1,779.45 Conjuror 1,681.24 Conjuror 1,639.21 Warlock 1,500.95 Necro 1,274.79 Assasin 1,113.11 Berserker 1,003.48 Illusionist 809.34 Monk 805.71 Dirge 593.44 </DIV>Message Edited by frigginfragged on 09-03-2006 02:53 PM

HerzenFunia

09-03-2006, 06:15 PM

<DIV>from our last labs run, just one parse from one of the first nameds (the one near forge with 2 adds).</DIV> <DIV>I had a amends (woooot paladin!!!) and troub in grp. Also str (without catalyst) and wis line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:03) 1246289 | 19,782.37</DIV> <DIV>Fomka (me) 148731 | 2,360.81</DIV> <DIV>Assassin 110237 | 1,749.79</DIV> <DIV>Ranger 91772 | 1,504.32</DIV> <DIV>Ranger 82799 | 1,314.27</DIV> <DIV>Conjuror 81443 | 1,303.35</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>bah i dont have others on my screenshot <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

3C HAVOK

09-06-2006, 07:07 PM

<DIV>This is a parse from lyc, It was the group of mobs on the stairs on the way to villiucide, We had a zerker tank and we held the pull till Gibe was up</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:44) 1008898 | 22929.50 [Kena-Fusion-15252] Crazedmutha 131085 | 2979.21 (Conj) Ploy 129506 | 2943.32 (Conj) Kena 127059 | 2887.71 (Wiz-Me :smileysurprised<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Ranlet 115470 | 2624.32 (Wiz) Lozzy 77508 | 1761.55 (Assasin) Rembas 58642 | 1332.77 (Zerker-MT) Skailz 51568 | 1172.00 (Necor-Slacker!)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> This is not normal, I believe i did zone wide just over 1K ext Dps. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

curtlewis

09-06-2006, 09:03 PM

For deaggro, in order of importance in keeping the mob OFF you:Amends or Mediate from a Pally/GuardianDirge in MT group2nd MT GroupAt this point it gets grey, since the Coercer, Illusionist and Troubadour deaggros are all very weak.I'll go with the Troub since they provide crit boosts, power regen and other nifty stuff.CoercerIllusionistAccordConcussiveCeaseI'm just guessing with Accord, it may well jump above the Coercer and Illusionist. Patch is out today, btw.Of course, it goes without saying to snag all the deaggro proccing gear you can. It's doesn't really help THAT much, but a proc from the Raiment of the Skywatcher after you land that double crit 25k fusion does bring a bit of hope to your situation.<div></div>

MeridianR

09-07-2006, 07:51 AM

From LoA Tonight:Haze 1542 dpsSlacker should have had 1600. Only thing he had on was Amends from me. Maybe he will post the zone parse, was close to 18k, but he was second to one of our Swashies.<div></div>

Car

09-07-2006, 05:57 PM

<DIV>Yeah, i was pushing hard for 1600 zone wide parse, but i died a few times too many on some of the 3ae mob encounters, and one of the named mob ruined everything for me <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.... I'll post the parse later tonight when i get home.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Haze - Vagabonds</DIV>

Trojan7474

09-07-2006, 06:05 PM

DPS-LoA last night zone-wide Allies: (44:30) 18164 dps | High Hit: Cron-Fusion-27362 conj 1763 dps (1594 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Strike-3402 | Duration: 44:19 | Total Damage: 4706524 = 9% warlock 1668 dps (1112 crits) High Hit: Rift Slam-7857 | Duration: 44:23 | Total Damage: 4453838 = 9% Assn 1445 dps (1849 crits) High Hit: Decapitate-22536 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 3857602 = 7% Cron 1399 dps (961 crits) High Hit: Fusion-27362 | Duration: 44:16 | Total Damage: 3735207 = 7% swash 1379 dps (1097 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-3530 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 3680786 = 7% necro 1192 dps (877 crits) High Hit: Abate Life-3219 | Duration: 42:08 | Total Damage: 3182595 = 6% warlock 1181 dps (893 crits) High Hit: Void Absolution-8124 | Duration: 44:24 | Total Damage: 3153353 = 6% brig 1079 dps (1135 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-5103 | Duration: 44:05 | Total Damage: 2882112 = 5% conj 1064 dps (991 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Strike-4536 | Duration: 31:46 | Total Damage: 2839651 = 5% zerker 996 dps (958 crits) High Hit: Demolish-2628 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 2660344 = 5% brig 819 dps (619 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-3611 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 2186013 = 4% Assn 716 dps (645 crits) High Hit: Decapitate-22479 | Duration: 35:40 | Total Damage: 1911223 = 3% sk 679 dps (1764 crits) High Hit: Pestilent Touch-9888 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 1811759 = 3% monk 593 dps (739 crits) High Hit: Punishing Cobra-1931 | Duration: 34:23 | Total Damage: 1582340 = 3% dirge 580 dps (395 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-3416 | Duration: 44:30 | Total Damage: 1547853 = 3% did not post peeps under 500 Message Edited by Trojan7474 on 09-07-2006 07:06 AMMessage Edited by Trojan7474 on 09-07-2006 07:08 AM

IllusiveThoughts

09-07-2006, 06:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trojan7474 wrote: DPS-LoA last night zone-wide Allies: (44:30) 18164 dps | High Hit: Cron-Fusion-27362 conj 1763 dps (1594 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Strike-3402 | Duration: 44:19 | Total Damage: 4706524 = 9% warlock 1668 dps (1112 crits) High Hit: Rift Slam-7857 | Duration: 44:23 | Total Damage: 4453838 = 9% Assn 1445 dps (1849 crits) High Hit: Decapitate-22536 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 3857602 = 7% Cron 1399 dps (961 crits) High Hit: Fusion-27362 | Duration: 44:16 | Total Damage: 3735207 = 7% swash 1379 dps (1097 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-3530 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 3680786 = 7% necro 1192 dps (877 crits) High Hit: Abate Life-3219 | Duration: 42:08 | Total Damage: 3182595 = 6% warlock 1181 dps (893 crits) High Hit: Void Absolution-8124 | Duration: 44:24 | Total Damage: 3153353 = 6% brig 1079 dps (1135 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-5103 | Duration: 44:05 | Total Damage: 2882112 = 5% conj 1064 dps (991 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Strike-4536 | Duration: 31:46 | Total Damage: 2839651 = 5% zerker 996 dps (958 crits) High Hit: Demolish-2628 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 2660344 = 5% brig 819 dps (619 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-3611 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 2186013 = 4% Assn 716 dps (645 crits) High Hit: Decapitate-22479 | Duration: 35:40 | Total Damage: 1911223 = 3% sk 679 dps (1764 crits) High Hit: Pestilent Touch-9888 | Duration: 44:26 | Total Damage: 1811759 = 3% monk 593 dps (739 crits) High Hit: Punishing Cobra-1931 | Duration: 34:23 | Total Damage: 1582340 = 3% dirge 580 dps (395 crits) High Hit: Droag Master's Sinister Strike-3416 | Duration: 44:30 | Total Damage: 1547853 = 3% did not post peeps under 500 Message Edited by Trojan7474 on 09-07-2006 07:06 AM Message Edited by Trojan7474 on 09-07-2006 07:08 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> thats a nice parse out of the warlock even though this is a wizard parse thread I think thats the highest I've seen a warlock parse in lyceum, nice work guys!

Trojan7474

09-07-2006, 06:44 PM

he is a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good warlock! As a wizzy its hard to hang with a warlock in that zone, big groups of mobs and what not.

IllusiveThoughts

09-10-2006, 11:07 AM

New High parse for Lyceum. I'm assuming that this is what I could do if given 1-2 brigands on a raid since with the LU27 debuff ninja boost my dps has gone up quite conciderably. (normally dont have a brigand) Buffs: Troub (forgot arias for a few fights), Synergism (on for about 1/2 zone then illusioniost logged was at 1700 zone with synergism after essence of fear), Harmonious link, and Vim. MT had coercer for hate gain. *****Zone Parse***** Allies: (54:22) 36397041 | 11154.63 [HH Ozzieman-Fusion-27357] Illu 826 | 5431107 | 1666.01 dps EXT dps 1664 me Oben 912 | 3438789 | 1059.74 warlock Alle 527 | 3173866 | 1410.64 conj (left after essence of fear) Ozzi 154 | 2814163 | 869.39 wizzie 2 Nald 7661 | 2714235 | 832.60 SK MT Haka 1735 | 2282129 | 703.94 paly Monc 338 | 1815836 | 583.13 ranger ***ommitted under 500 dps*** Here's a graph of my damage in ACT <IMG src="http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/397/Lyceum%20Illu%20high.bmp"> as you can see my averages are higher than max spell dmg unlike my other parses where its close to max.

IllusiveThoughts

09-10-2006, 11:24 AM

Here's labs run we did today also. BUFFS: troub + vim + harmonious link MT had dirge + coercer *****ZONE PARSE***** Allies: (54:00) 33182941 | 10241.65 [HH Ozzieman-Fusion-25034] Illu 461 | 4604644 | 1422.94 ext dps 1421.19 me Alle 1020 | 3493280 | 1080.84 ext dps 1079.17 conj Oben 794 | 3322835 | 1028.11 ext dps 1025.57 warlock Ozzi 154 | 2766182 | 859.60 ext dps 853.76 wizard Haun 469 | 2523414 | 783.91 ext dps 778.83 ranger Nald 4328 | 2313014 | 714.55 ext dps 713.89 SK MT Monc 331 | 1952743 | 606.44 ext dps 602.70 ranger Band 464 | 1624153 | 504.55 ext dps 501.28 zerker. ***omitted under 500*** *****Doomwright Vakrizt***** Allies: (01:21) 1202556 | 14846.37 [HH Ozzieman-Ice Nova-10245] Alle 64 | 164447 | 2316.16 conj Oben 44 | 137801 | 2417.56 warlock Illu 11 | 131711 | 1779.88 me Haun 9 | 86153 | 1412.34 ranger Nald 175 | 81436 | 1085.81 SK MT Ozzi 5 | 73352 | 1078.71 wizard 2 Band 40 | 72600 | 1037.14 zerker Monc 10 | 71114 | 1226.10 ranger 2 Sand 1 | 54669 | 841.06 coercer Mari 1 | 48214 | 660.47 defiler Kala 30 | 44332 | 682.03 zerker 2 Heav 20 | 37465 | 669.02 bruiser Arth 38 | 35943 | 579.73 paly Cudu 0 | 34731 | 708.80 dirge Pand 10 | 28104 | 501.86 fury ***omitted under 500*** *****Pardas Predd***** Allies: (02:13) 1215340 | 9137.90 [HH Ozzieman-Ice Nova-12543] Illu 20 | 155261 | 1262.29 me Haun 13 | 116940 | 974.50 ranger Oben 12 | 113241 | 905.93 warlock Ozzi 1 | 108034 | 964.59 wizard 2 Nald 131 | 102249 | 792.63 SK MT Monc 11 | 80874 | 808.74 ranger 2 Sand 6 | 63849 | 536.55 coercer ***omitted under 500*** *****The Slavering Alzid***** Allies: (01:33) 1423113 | 15302.29 [HH Illu-Fusion-21633] Illu 19 | 181543 | 2420.57 me 1952.08 ext dps Alle 50 | 160763 | 1847.85 conj Oben 40 | 150618 | 1906.56 warlock Ozzi 20 | 99090 | 1138.97 wizard 2 Nald 204 | 94202 | 1035.19 SK MT Kala 36 | 82823 | 1075.62 zerker Band 27 | 78756 | 937.57 zerker 2 Monc 13 | 70568 | 1008.11 ranger Sand 1 | 70100 | 887.34 coercer Haun 13 | 62772 | 884.11 ranger 2 Cudu 1 | 55235 | 717.34 dirge Heav 19 | 52220 | 696.27 bruiser Arth 52 | 51408 | 704.22 paly Pand 16 | 42121 | 547.03 fury *****DOOM TRIO***** Allies: (02:23) 1184894 | 8285.97 [HH Illu-Fusion-12213] Illu 16 | 183719 | 1360.88 me Oben 55 | 129991 | 1023.55 warlock Haun 14 | 119043 | 983.83 ranger Ozzi 11 | 105514 | 824.33 wizard 2 Monc 11 | 101419 | 866.83 ranger Nald 155 | 77224 | 572.03 SK MT *****UNCAGED ALZID***** Allies: (02:34) 1303617 | 8465.05 [HH Ozzieman-Fusion-14382] Illu 19 | 196999 | 1340.13 me Ozzi 6 | 109748 | 812.95 wizard 2 Alle 11 | 107677 | 752.99 conj Nald 170 | 96258 | 637.47 SK MT Haun 14 | 94882 | 708.07 ranger Sand 11 | 94008 | 681.22 coercer Band 20 | 88505 | 636.73 zerker Oben 24 | 78885 | 567.52 warlock Kala 21 | 75025 | 528.35 zerker Monc 14 | 73730 | 558.56 ranger ******Uustalastus Xiterrax****** Allies: (01:25) 808963 | 9517.21 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-16233] Alle 135 | 246259 | 3117.20 (conj who aoe'd the whole fight) 2897.19 ext dps Illu 12 | 101987 | 1274.84 me (who single target burned the named down) Nald 172 | 77860 | 938.07 SK MT Ozzi 1 | 74417 | 1019.41 wizard Oben 15 | 70102 | 987.35 warlock. *****Doomsword Zatrakh***** Allies: (03:30) 1935411 | 9216.24 [HH Ozzieman-Fusion-20403] Illu 24 | 259099 | 1263.90 me Alle 44 | 193802 | 969.01 conj Oben 38 | 180826 | 886.40 warlock Ozzi 5 | 170118 | 846.36 wizard 2 Haun 28 | 142240 | 725.71 ranger Nald 255 | 116698 | 563.76 SK MT *****Corsolander***** (fastest we've killed him yet) Allies: (02:07) 1299857 | 10235.09 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-20799] Illu 16 | 190545 | 1524.36 me 1500.35 ext dps Alle 75 | 142630 | 1262.21 conj Ozzi 0 | 108851 | 922.47 wizard 2 Haun 12 | 83473 | 794.98 ranger Oben 13 | 78627 | 666.33 warlock Nald 126 | 74803 | 603.25 SKMT Sand 2 | 74104 | 644.38 coercer Kala 17 | 72084 | 680.04 zerker Band 13 | 71849 | 684.28 zekerer Heav 29 | 68659 | 647.73 bruiser Monc 12 | 60287 | 685.08 ranger *****Euktrzkai Amdaatk***** Allies: (01:10) 786143 | 11230.61 [HH Illu-Fusion-22035] Illu 29 | 143977 | 2249.64 me 2056.81 ex dps Alle 23 | 86545 | 1696.96 conj Ozzi 6 | 60600 | 1044.83 wizard 2 Haun 5 | 60125 | 1156.25 ranger Oben 14 | 58229 | 1058.71 warlock Nald 72 | 52736 | 753.37 SK MT Kala 16 | 43552 | 777.71 zerker Heav 27 | 42216 | 692.07 bruiser Monc 4 | 39947 | 739.76 ranger Band 14 | 39871 | 752.28 zerker *****Lord Vyemm***** Allies: (03:33) 1374065 | 6451.01 [HH Illu-Fusion-16590] Alle 73 | 163907 | 827.81 conj Haun 28 | 140344 | 712.41 ranger Illu 4 | 133147 | 669.08 me Ozzi 17 | 132616 | 683.59 wizard 2 Oben 18 | 127913 | 646.03 warlock Nald 205 | 124758 | 594.09 SK MT Heav 45 | 115978 | 591.72 bruiser Kala 12 | 108644 | 577.89 zerker *****Alzid Prime***** Allies: (01:12) 847981 | 11777.51 [HH Illu-Ice Nova-19011] Illu 12 | 108726 | 1575.74 me Alle 19 | 78674 | 1248.79 conj Ozzi 4 | 69695 | 1106.27 wizard 2 Haun 6 | 68040 | 1215.00 ranger Monc 4 | 58328 | 1215.17 ranger Oben 19 | 58233 | 924.33 warlock Nald 80 | 45046 | 652.84 SK MT Sand 3 | 44961 | 713.67 coercer Band 25 | 44812 | 711.30 zerker Heav 14 | 42295 | 716.86 bruiser Pand 12 | 35174 | 541.14 fury Arth 21 | 32096 | 544.00 paly Kala 10 | 27672 | 674.93 zerker

IllusiveThoughts

09-17-2006, 11:23 PM

Here's the 1st run through Deathtoll zone parse, where we stopped just shortly after fitzpitzle (this was with old build of agi 4/4/4/8 wis 4/8/8/<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (55:56) 31945744 | 9518.99 [Illu-Fusion-24209] Illu | 248 | 4387126 | 1321.82 dps 1307.25 ext dps me Alle | 379 | 2855696 | 876.52 dps conj Kyri | 57 | 2246665 | 686.42 dps wiz Ozzi | 5 | 2182397 | 663.75 dps wiz Numb | 652 | 2097959 | 643.74 dps ranger Haun | 390 | 2089736 | 654.06 dps ranger Oben | 278 | 1791583 | 546.88 dps warlock Vinh | 804 | 1646926 | 494.72 dps monk Monc | 319 | 1628396 | 500.58 dps ranger And here's the 2nd run through Deathtoll one where we stopped after wiping a few times on the amorphous drake. with new build (agi 4/4/4/8/1 wis 4/5/4/<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs: amends, dirge buffs, dktm, 7.2% allegro, (i was in mt group with paly MTing and amends on me for raid hate gain) and harmonious link. I would burn ice nova and fusion back to back so i could give the paly enough spike hate to hold agro through the fight, as well as leading every fight off with frigid gift (to proc off paly taunts/nukes) for additional hate, so I wasn't casting my usual dps chain. aldo still learning what to cast and when with reduced re-cast timers. Allies: (58:50) 30638251 | 8679.39 [Arianias-Fusion-22602] Illu | 510 | 4811818 | 1363.12 dps 1363.12 ext dps. me Oben | 673 | 2864618 | 815.43 dps warlock Trit | 725 | 2621962 | 747.85 dps conj Acce | 495 | 2526142 | 720.73 dps necro (2 boxing healer and necro) Kyri | 171 | 2208004 | 655.19 dps wizard 2 Aria | 193 | 1934769 | 694.21 dps wizard 3(was afk half zone and then logged) under 500 removed. Hopefully I'll get another lyceum run or labs run soon because I have more data to compare to from those zones since this was my 2nd time in DT.

Kelkirra

09-19-2006, 02:47 AM

<DIV>You could have come with us but it wouldn't have been of much use. I was catching between 20-30 second lagg spikes during the whole raid thanks to a buddies internet connection. -_- </DIV>

The Ban

09-25-2006, 12:19 AM

Grr, forgot how to post parses again. I click on a parse an hit export to HTML but nothing happens.

IllusiveThoughts

09-25-2006, 12:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> The Banff wrote: Grr, forgot how to post parses again. I click on a parse an hit export to HTML but nothing happens. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> export to clipboard then paste into message body with ctrl v

HerzenFunia

09-25-2006, 02:41 PM

<DIV>Wee, finally our guild got back to raiding instances after some brake and here is a few parses.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Labs. Bers mt with a dirge and a coerc in grp, 2 wizards in my grp with a troub and also with a pally. Half of raid harmonious link was on me, and also for half of raid amends was on another wizzy. Also there were some alts in raid getting their updates etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (46:43) 37546331 | 13395,05 [Fomka-Ice Nova-22032] Fomka (me) 3359930 | 1198,69 Necro 2947226 | 1051,45 Berserker 2861010 | 1020,70 Wizard 2693810 | 961,05 Brig 2601371 | 928,07 Brig 2466823 | 880,07 Warlock 2442452 | 871,37 Conj 2309015 | 823,77 Paladin 2084540 | 743,68 Bruiser 1961146 | 699,66 Swash 1694948 | 604,69 Monk 1648363 | 588,07 Dirge 1416958 | 505,51 dont post under 500dps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And this one is from hos. MT was guard with dirge in grp, and in my grp - 3 wizards, 1 warlock and a troub with a healer (yeah great grp lol). Honestly I wasnt paying 100% attention to my dps coz of number of factors, so my dps a bit lower than it could be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (55:15) 54351802 | 16395,72 [Fomka-Fusion-24221] Ranger 4496286 | 1356,35 Assassin 4485933 | 1353,22 Wizard 4414282 | 1331,61 Ranger 4097840 | 1236,15 Fomka (me) 3824378 | 1153,66 Warlock 3774915 | 1138,74 Brig 3695856 | 1114,89 Wizard 3584350 | 1081,25 Bruiser 2969765 | 895,86 Conj 2926364 | 882,76 Brig 2866218 | 864,62 Pally 2067051 | 623,54 Guard 1854358 | 559,38 Dirge 1626906 | 490,77 dont post under 500dps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 09-25-2006 02:44 PM

Jezekie

09-25-2006, 04:48 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div> <div>Wee, finally our guild got back to raiding instances after some brake and here is a few parses.</div> <div> </div> <div>Labs. Bers mt with a dirge and a coerc in grp, 2 wizards in my grp with a troub and also with a pally. Half of raid harmonious link was on me, and also for half of raid amends was on another wizzy. Also there were some alts in raid getting their updates etc.</div> <div> </div> <div>Allies: (46:43) 37546331 | 13395,05 [Fomka-Ice Nova-22032] Fomka (me) 3359930 | 1198,69 Necro 2947226 | 1051,45 Berserker 2861010 | 1020,70 Wizard 2693810 | 961,05 Brig 2601371 | 928,07 Brig 2466823 | 880,07 Warlock 2442452 | 871,37 Conj 2309015 | 823,77 Paladin 2084540 | 743,68 Bruiser 1961146 | 699,66 Swash 1694948 | 604,69 Monk 1648363 | 588,07 Dirge 1416958 | 505,51 dont post under 500dps</div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>It's funny how close your labs raid is to our last one. I don't recall our setup tho in the group. What's your Achievement setup Fomka?46:45 | 36818584 | 13126Me 3178152 | 1133Conjuror 2854153 | 1018Berserker 2800851 | 999Assassin 2393532 | 853Conjuror 2358586 | 841Wizard 2293780 | 818Assassin 2287304 | 815Guardian (MT) 2044702 | 729Ranger 2036274 | 726Bruiser 2025508 | 722Ranger 1935235 | 690Swashbuckler 1908359 | 680Brigand 1629216 | 581</div>

Jezekie

09-25-2006, 05:31 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> Here's the 1st run through Deathtoll zone parse, where we stopped just shortly after fitzpitzle (this was with old build of agi 4/4/4/8 wis 4/8/8/<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (55:56) 31945744 | 9518.99 [Illu-Fusion-24209]Illu | 248 | 4387126 | 1321.82 dps 1307.25 ext dps meAlle | 379 | 2855696 | 876.52 dps conjKyri | 57 | 2246665 | 686.42 dps wizOzzi | 5 | 2182397 | 663.75 dps wizNumb | 652 | 2097959 | 643.74 dps rangerHaun | 390 | 2089736 | 654.06 dps rangerOben | 278 | 1791583 | 546.88 dps warlockVinh | 804 | 1646926 | 494.72 dps monkMonc | 319 | 1628396 | 500.58 dps ranger And here's the 2nd run through Deathtoll one where we stopped after wiping a few times on the amorphous drake. with new build (agi 4/4/4/8/1 wis 4/5/4/<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs: amends, dirge buffs, dktm, 7.2% allegro, (i was in mt group with paly MTing and amends on me for raid hate gain) and harmonious link. I would burn ice nova and fusion back to back so i could give the paly enough spike hate to hold agro through the fight, as well as leading every fight off with frigid gift (to proc off paly taunts/nukes) for additional hate, so I wasn't casting my usual dps chain. aldo still learning what to cast and when with reduced re-cast timers. Allies: (58:50) 30638251 | 8679.39 [Arianias-Fusion-22602]Illu | 510 | 4811818 | 1363.12 dps 1363.12 ext dps. meOben | 673 | 2864618 | 815.43 dps warlockTrit | 725 | 2621962 | 747.85 dps conjAcce | 495 | 2526142 | 720.73 dps necro (2 boxing healer and necro)Kyri | 171 | 2208004 | 655.19 dps wizard 2Aria | 193 | 1934769 | 694.21 dps wizard 3(was afk half zone and then logged) under 500 removed. Hopefully I'll get another lyceum run or labs run soon because I have more data to compare to from those zones since this was my 2nd time in DT.<hr></blockquote>Our last DT run, it stops short of Tarinax though. Group = Me, Conjuror, Fury, Warlock, Shadowknight (Death March is sexy), Troubadur. No Paladin or Coercer, I do belive I had Synergism tho.I rarely use Fusion without a Paladin though, it just means insta death for me if I use it on a multi target encounter.Deathtoll Zone Wide53:01 | 41102174 | 12921Me 3752109 | 1180Warlock 3485968 | 1096Conjuror 3245409 | 1020Assassin 2811645 | 884Wizard 2770892 | 871Berserker 2757877 | 867Assassin 2574702 | 809Bruiser 2443207 | 768Guardian (MT) 2362238 | 743Swashbuckler 2239146 | 704Monk 2166348 | 681Shadowknight 2135201 | 671</div>

The Ban

09-26-2006, 12:38 AM

<DIV> My guild doesn't really raid anymore as we broke up and now lack the numbers to raid. Only lvl 70s on the raid were me and the berserker. The SK is also 70 but he was trying to work up his piercing skill lol. Anyway this is the zonewide for 4 of the x2 guild raids. Buffs were...well nothing really just +power from warden. Tank didn't have any hate buffs other than my hate transfer. Wizard 2961908 | 1,591.98 Berserker 1933717 | 1,079.38 Brigand 727788 | 558.49 Warden 701311 | 535.95 Brigand 640121 | 365.21 Shadowk 590204 | 300.53 Bruiser 401296 | 210.80 Assassin 141819 | 79.25 Defiler 140252 | 77.88 Brigand 73451 | 39.63 Fury 54100 | 29.65 And here was a random high parse. Prolly the highest parse I have ever had and lived with no aggro managment at all. Wizard 92542 | 2,644.06 Berserker 68635 | 1,460.32 Brigand 33326 | 793.48 Brigand 22222 | 542.00 Warden 18217 | 423.65 Shadowk 15484 | 329.45 Bruiser 12931 | 293.89 Assassin 8661 | 234.08 Bruiser 2898 | 76.26 Brigand 1371 | 42.84 Defiler 1276 | 38.81 Fury 0 | 0.00 </DIV>Message Edited by The Banff on 09-25-2006 01:39 PM

Fews

09-26-2006, 01:56 AM

Here is some samples from a labs run a few weeks ago. Mind you , as a wizard I pace a bit, because it is very bad form to pull agro on the nameds.Since this is just a farm zone for us(all instances are), can't say how hard everyone was trying either. But everyone is hardcore gamewise, otherwise they don't get in the guild (we raid every night(though some nights are starting to be idle other than the run for contested), killed Cheldrak, tarinax, etc.) But also you can see we brought in less equipped alts too, not sure if anyone was two-boxing.The mobs still die quick enough.9/10Alzid PrimeAllies: (00:59) 824979 | 13982.70 [Fewson-Fusion-19401]87711 | 1827 Assassin87089 | 1675 --Me Wiz81799 | 1636 Brusier78280 | 1535 Warlock54162 | 1152 Probably a Brig Alt51999 | 1268 Brigand (not in guild anymore)50677 | 994 Berzerker49131 | 963 Brusier (someone's alt)48720 | 1433 Ranger46086 | 809 Shadowknight30855 | 617 Pally 26222 | 504 Warden (someone's alt)23811 | 611 Bruiser (someone's alt)Lord VyemmAllies: (01:52) 1418122 | 12661.80 [-Decapitate-19481]155550 | 1481 Assassin137848 | 1313 Ranger125137 | 1406 -Me Wiz (and I probably waited longer than I need to let tank get it under control and build hate)118049 | 1157 Probably a brig (alt)116386 | 1152 Warlock103537 | 1150 Bruiser94683 | 937 Brusier (someone's alt)92871 | 860 Berzerker88331 | 849 Shadowknight75891 | 751 Brigand (not in guild anymore)63975 | 615 Bruiser (someone's alt)54764 | 553 PallyFewson - Level 70 wizzyMember of Dark Horizon(1+years)playing EQ2 on multiple servers since Nov 2004Message Edited by Fewson on 09-25-2006 03:13 PM

IllusiveThoughts

09-26-2006, 02:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fewson wrote: Here is some samples from a labs run a few weeks ago. Mind you , as a wizard I pace a bit, because it is very bad form to pull agro on the nameds. Since this is just a farm zone for us(all instances are), can't say how hard everyone was trying either. But everyone is hardcore gamewise, otherwise they don't get in the guild (we raid every night(though some nights are starting to be idle other than the run for contested), killed Cheldrak, tarinax, etc.) But also you can see we brought in less equipped alts too, not sure if anyone was two-boxing. The mobs still die quick enough. 9/10 Alzid Prime Allies: (00:59) 824979 | 13982.70 [Fewson-Fusion-19401] 87711 | 1827 Assassin 87089 | 1675 --Me Wiz 81799 | 1636 Brusier 78280 | 1535 Warlock 54162 | 1152 Probably a Brig Alt 51999 | 1268 Brigand (not in guild anymore) 50677 | 994 Berzerker 49131 | 963 Brusier (someone's alt) 48720 | 1433 Ranger 46086 | 809 Shadowknight 30855 | 617 Pally 26222 | 504 Warden (someone's alt) 23811 | 611 Bruiser (someone's alt) Lord Vyemm Allies: (01:52) 1418122 | 12661.80 [-Decapitate-19481] 155550 | 1481 Assassin 137848 | 1313 Ranger 125137 | 1406 -Me Wiz (and I probably waited longer than I need to let tank get it under control and build hate) 118049 | 1157 Probably a brig (alt) 116386 | 1152 Warlock 103537 | 1150 Bruiser 94683 | 937 Brusier (someone's alt) 92871 | 860 Berzerker 88331 | 849 Shadowknight 75891 | 751 Brigand (not in guild anymore) 63975 | 615 Bruiser (someone's alt) 54764 | 553 Pally Fewson - Level 70 wizzy Member of Dark Horizon(1+years) playing EQ2 on multiple servers since Nov 2004 Message Edited by Fewson on 09-25-2006 03:13 PM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> thanks for sharing thats a heck of a nice parse against vyemm. I usually die to the mem wipe a lot. happen to have the whole zone parse available?

Jezekie

09-26-2006, 02:39 AM

LoA zone wide56:30 | 46967345 | 13855Me 4187962 | 1235Warlock 3985675 | 1176Conjuror 3565362 | 1052Assassin 3546035 | 1046Wizard 3034807 | 895Berserker 2946697 | 869Assassin 2836472 | 837Rest of raid was below 800. 3 brawlers around 750ish was next on parse. Swash/MT/rest below that at 650.Group for me was fury, assassin, assassin, troub, bruiser and my self.Group for lock was paladin, lock, fury, troub, something, something.No Illusionist at raid.Locks achievements are AGI + WIS I think, and the other wizard is STR/AGI lacks a bunch of masters tho. I'm missing Forge Of Ro and Surging Tempest.<div></div>

pharacyde

09-26-2006, 04:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jezekiell wrote: LoA zone wide 56:30 | 46967345 | 13855 Me 4187962 | 1235 Warlock 3985675 | 1176 Conjuror 3565362 | 1052 Assassin 3546035 | 1046 Wizard 3034807 | 895 Berserker 2946697 | 869 Assassin 2836472 | 837 Rest of raid was below 800. 3 brawlers around 750ish was next on parse. Swash/MT/rest below that at 650. Group for me was fury, assassin, assassin, troub, bruiser and my self. Group for lock was paladin, lock, fury, troub, something, something. No Illusionist at raid. Locks achievements are AGI + WIS I think, and the other wizard is STR/AGI lacks a bunch of masters tho. I'm missing Forge Of Ro and Surging Tempest. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> STR + WIS

HerzenFunia

09-26-2006, 04:52 PM

White Russi

09-27-2006, 10:13 PM

<div></div>Lyceum Parse form last night. Not a full raid and the coercer was my alt. Main tank was a zerker with a dirge and assasin for hate during the early fights and an SK in place of the assasin for later fights. I was in a group with a troub and had synergism. I put coercer de-hate on warlock ([expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] my conscience) although he had to leave halfway through so I slapped that on yours truly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm in the STR and WIS lines but I think I will go for AGI and WIS soon. We sucked against vilucidae and it ruined anychance of a decent zonewide so i included a zonewide parse without him as well.Zone ParseAllies: (01:11:59)45963846 DMG, 10,642.24 DPSwiz2-Fusion-23512 Viko [4876955] 1,129.19 assa1 [4682346] 1,084.13 swash [4579199] 1,060.25 Necro [3929031] 909.71 Zerk [3822567] 885.06 Monk [3732526] 864.21 Warlock [3247867] 752.00 wiz2 [3038243] 703.46 Assa2 [2940133] 680.74 Sk [2652446] 614.13 troub [2484962] 575.36 Excluded anyone below 500 DPS Zone Parse excluding Vilucidae Allies: (57:33)42561010 DMG, 12,325.81 DPSWiz2-Fusion-23512 Viko [4578197] 1,325.86 Assa1 [4336427] 1,255.84 Swash [4149668] 1,201.76 Necro [3634687] 1,052.62 Zerk [3516133] 1,018.28 Monk [3340949] 967.55 Warlock [3247867] 940.59 wiz2 [2828073] 819.02 assa2 [2686881] 778.13 Sk [2433038] 704.62 troub [2187632] 633.55 Illu [1775532] 514.20 Essence of Fear Allies: (03:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />2401524 DMG, 11,545.79 DPSassa1-Decapitate-21463 Necro [265984] 1,278.77 Assa1 [243079] 1,168.65 Monk [216638] 1,041.53 Swash [214778] 1,032.59 Viko [214710] 1,032.26 Warlock [214650] 1,031.97 Zerk [188800] 907.69 Assa2 [165446] 795.41 Wiz2 [159530] 766.97 Troub [120032] 577.08 Gnillaw the demented I died in this one pretty much at the beginning so was gimped with no power for most of fightAllies: (01:04)436994 DMG, 6,828.03 DPSWiz2-Ice Nova-11590 Warlock [88023] 1,375.36 Zerk [72540] 1,133.44 Illu [42628] 666.06 Viko [35118] 548.72 Vilucidae The [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] Allies: (14:26)3407815 DMG, 3,935.12 DPSWiz2-Fusion-22541 Swash [429531] 495.99 Monk [391577] 452.17 Assa1 [345919] 399.44 Zerk [306434] 353.85 Viko [298758] 344.99 Troub [297330] 343.34 Necro [294344] 339.89 Assa2 [253252] 292.44 Sk [219408] 253.36 Wiz2 [210170] 242.69 Pally [147529] 170.36 Gnorbl the BuggedI died in this one too... Allies: (05:03)2752668 DMG, 9,084.71 DPSAssa1-Decapitate-18780 Assa1 [364016] 1,201.37 Swash [321178] 1,059.99 Monk [289769] 956.33 Viko [264433] 872.72 Pally [231729] 764.78 Zerk [196017] 646.92 Wiz2 [190231] 627.83 Sk [186903] 616.84 Troub [183513] 605.65 Assa2 [168947] 557.58 Random [Removed for Content] parses Allies: (01:49)1594863 DMG, 14,631.77 DPSWiz2-Ice Nova-16079 Viko [210846] 1,934.37 Warlock [190371] 1,746.52 Zerk [165421] 1,517.62 Swash [151226] 1,387.40 Assa1 [145660] 1,336.33 Necro [109240] 1,002.20 Monk [107404] 985.36 Sk [98141] 900.38 assa2 [97402] 893.60 Troub [83133] 762.69 Dirge [72494] 665.08 Wiz2 [71900] 659.63 Illu [71144] 652.70 Heroics ftw Allies: (01:14)1058255 DMG, 14,300.74 DPSWiz2-Fusion-11992 Viko [206611] 2,792.04 Zerk [152328] 2,058.49 Assa1 [123657] 1,671.04 Swash [107257] 1,449.42 Monk [77960] 1,053.51 Illu [74879] 1,011.88 Wiz2 [72446] 979.00 Necro [68444] 924.92 Assa2 [55050] 743.92 Sk [45950] 620.95 Troub [43687] 590.36Sir Viko DinWizard of Evolution, Splitpaw<div></div>

Orwandil

09-28-2006, 12:36 AM

I've been following this thread for a while now and throughout the whole thing, it amazes me how much 2 classes, Wizards specifically, will vary on the parses for the same encounter. Some of Illusive's parses are some of the best I've seen, but looking at the other Wizard on his parses... their DPS will vary an average of 3-400, sometimes a lot more, and only a few I've noticed where they're within 100 of each other. I don't have any parses to post but we raid with 2-4 wizards and we're all usually within 2-300DPS of each other. I'm fairly decked out with gear and Masters, no procing gear though and not much Flowing thought, but I can't average over 1000 DPS on fights over a min or 2. I'm like wizard2 on everyone's parses... For example, (from a previous IT post) Allies: (54:22) 36397041 | 11154.63 [HH Ozzieman-Fusion-27357] Illu 826 | 5431107 | 1666.01 dps EXT dps 1664 me Oben 912 | 3438789 | 1059.74 warlock Alle 527 | 3173866 | 1410.64 conj (left after essence of fear) Ozzi 154 | 2814163 | 869.39 wizzie 2 Nald 7661 | 2714235 | 832.60 SK MT Haka 1735 | 2282129 | 703.94 paly Monc 338 | 1815836 | 583.13 ranger That would be where I parse... But Illusive is 1666. Are you geared up that much more than Wiz 2 or just a much better player or what? It's just amazing to me... Anyways, I just had to find out what causes these variations between Wizards in the same raid on the same encounters... BTW, my AAs are STR(4-4-4-4)AGI(4-4-4-4)WIS(4-4-4-5)... Since I did this, my DPS did go up a bit from AGI/WIS. I enjoy the extra Crits and reduced casting and Freehand/base damage boost :smileyhappy:

IllusiveThoughts

09-28-2006, 01:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Orwandil wrote: I've been following this thread for a while now and throughout the whole thing, it amazes me how much 2 classes, Wizards specifically, will vary on the parses for the same encounter. Some of Illusive's parses are some of the best I've seen, but looking at the other Wizard on his parses... their DPS will vary an average of 3-400, sometimes a lot more, and only a few I've noticed where they're within 100 of each other. I don't have any parses to post but we raid with 2-4 wizards and we're all usually within 2-300DPS of each other. I'm fairly decked out with gear and Masters, no procing gear though and not much Flowing thought, but I can't average over 1000 DPS on fights over a min or 2. I'm like wizard2 on everyone's parses... For example, (from a previous IT post) Allies: (54:22) 36397041 | 11154.63 [HH Ozzieman-Fusion-27357] Illu 826 | 5431107 | 1666.01 dps EXT dps 1664 me Oben 912 | 3438789 | 1059.74 warlock Alle 527 | 3173866 | 1410.64 conj (left after essence of fear) Ozzi 154 | 2814163 | 869.39 wizzie 2 Nald 7661 | 2714235 | 832.60 SK MT Haka 1735 | 2282129 | 703.94 paly Monc 338 | 1815836 | 583.13 ranger That would be where I parse... But Illusive is 1666. Are you geared up that much more than Wiz 2 or just a much better player or what? It's just amazing to me... Anyways, I just had to find out what causes these variations between Wizards in the same raid on the same encounters... BTW, my AAs are STR(4-4-4-4)AGI(4-4-4-4)WIS(4-4-4-5)... Since I did this, my DPS did go up a bit from AGI/WIS. I enjoy the extra Crits and reduced casting and Freehand/base damage boost :smileyhappy: <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=232188205" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=232188205</A> I only equip the sheild around town, I like the graphic. normally thats not the gear I raid with. I swap around wrists/secondary/ring/hands/ear for an additional 22 flowingthought on mana intensive fights, like corsolander, gnillaw, vullicide ect... or depending on if mob as fear/stun I swap on resists to help with resisting it, like uncaged, essence of fear, ect. for the most part my left side stays the same and rightside gets swapped around, sometimes i have to sacrifice earing of the invoker for additional resists. Also depending on hate reduction, i'll swap on the skywatcher robe and put out hate reduction pet, and cast my de-agros when every they refresh, and avoid using big nukes till the end of the fight so if I die at least I did a considerable amount of damage before death. I've got the following damage spells at Master 1 : Fusion, Ball of lava, irradiate, rending icicles, incapacitate, surging tempest, glacial winds, icesheild, electrifying flash, surge of flames, and frigid gift. The rest are adept 3, except for protoferno at m2. There's nothing special about my toon, I dont have anything I'd consider to be "uber" nor do I think I'll have anything like that in the near future, maybe once EOF comes out and the aa's make KOS raiding easier I might start to get some of the cool stuff other wizards on my server have (misty protector, MO pants, wand of tempest, ring of supremacy ect) I'd love to have some of that nice gear just to see how big of a gap it is against the regular joe (which i think i represent)Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 09-27-2006 02:46 PM

Zyphius

09-28-2006, 02:20 AM

<DIV>Regular joe? I think not! Look at all the masters you have!! Most of my spells are Adept 3. I have a couple masters, but not many. You also have about twice the fabled gear I have, and I would consider myself about average, maybe slightly above (gear/spell wise).</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

09-28-2006, 02:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> putergod wrote: <DIV>Regular joe? I think not! Look at all the masters you have!! Most of my spells are Adept 3. I have a couple masters, but not many. You also have about twice the fabled gear I have, and I would consider myself about average, maybe slightly above (gear/spell wise).</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> i've been raiding for about maybe 5-6 months, i'd say my gear for the time invested in raiding is probably below average for a raiding wizard, especially since most of that time was spent in labs, doing MOA 4 raids, and occasionally lyceum. The guild I raid with doesn't do HOS much and just started doing deathtoll. I see plenty of other raiding wizards on my server with MUCH better gear than I. Of course spells are something you cant see, and nowadays everyone wants 40plat for a wizard master, and will not trade other masters for it.(thats how I got most of my masters was from trading other masters for them) I'm talking about being an average raiding wizard for the time i've spent raiding.

Jezekie

09-28-2006, 03:05 AM

I'm surprised you push the DPS numbers you push even more so now, looking at your gear. Or well in comparison to the other classes at your raids. Unless my guild is doing something dramatically wrong that prevents me from dishing out top DPS all the time.I have to try, and try hard to top DPS, and only really top out these days on zone wide parses, individually named I'm usually in top 5 or so but it's near impossible keeping up with our assasins, and conjurors.<div></div>

Orwandil

09-28-2006, 04:32 AM

Ya... I'd have to say that I don't think most people who've seen your parses and read your posts regard you as a "regular Joe", Illusive, but hey I guess that leaves hope for the rest of us. I consider myself a pretty avarage player, and I have my fair share of Fabeled loot and I think 9 Masters. I've been raiding for about 4-5 months now as well, 3 nights/week, with a Raid Alliance on my server (SRA). We got access to DT on Sept. 1, so we're doing pretty good I suppose, though we've yet to take down Tarinax. <A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=330981206" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=330981206</A> I never have much along the lines of Aggro reduction, either Amends or Moderate (sometimes both) and rarely Synergistic Link. We don't have a Coercer, Troubador, or a regular Illusionist... So It's usually not possible for me to go all out, as I pull agro and die very quickly :smileywink: Our Assassin and Brig usually are in the top of the Parses (they have Swashies in their group), sometimes the Conj will be there, and us Wizards land in the top 5-6... I'll see what I can do about getting a Parse from DT on Friday to see how we compare.

Jezekie

09-28-2006, 05:12 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>Orwandil wrote:<div></div> Ya... I'd have to say that I don't think most people who've seen your parses and read your posts regard you as a "regular Joe", Illusive, but hey I guess that leaves hope for the rest of us. I consider myself a pretty avarage player, and I have my fair share of Fabeled loot and I think 9 Masters. I've been raiding for about 4-5 months now as well, 3 nights/week, with a Raid Alliance on my server (SRA). We got access to DT on Sept. 1, so we're doing pretty good I suppose, though we've yet to take down Tarinax. <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=330981206" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=330981206</a> I never have much along the lines of Aggro reduction, either Amends or Moderate (sometimes both) and rarely Synergistic Link. We don't have a Coercer, Troubador, or a regular Illusionist... So It's usually not possible for me to go all out, as I pull agro and die very quickly :smileywink: Our Assassin and Brig usually are in the top of the Parses (they have Swashies in their group), sometimes the Conj will be there, and us Wizards land in the top 5-6... I'll see what I can do about getting a Parse from DT on Friday to see how we compare.<hr></blockquote>It's likely your Achievement setup holding you back. STR + WIS or AGI + WIS is the only way to go if you ask me. Which is better though remains to be seen still. I see a trend among the upper end guild wizards going for STR + WIS, but personally I don't bealive in the streaky nature of the crits and the very short fights named once you get used to drilling them down.I'm going to respec to AGI 4,4,4,8,1 & WIS 4,5,4,8 as soon as I can. Instead of having Sagacity as I do now. Need more DPS not power saving at the moment.</div>

Faheuc

09-28-2006, 05:53 AM

ill try to remember to post parses from my guild's raids here, though they a bit on the low end i think. tomorrow is lyceum, so hopefully i have stuff then.

White Russi

09-28-2006, 11:57 AM

<DIV>Probably preaching to the choir here, but for those that didn't know you can import parses using ACT from your previous fights to save having to do all the number crunching straight after the raid. Just go to the imort/export tab and select the time and date your raid took place, then select your log file under the select file button. Useful if you forget and/or want to do some analysing during work hours as opposed to late at night <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sir Viko Din</DIV> <DIV>Wizard of Evolution, Splitpaw</DIV>

HerzenFunia

09-28-2006, 02:47 PM

One parse here, this time from Chel'drak. I havent seen ppl posting here turtle fights yet so it's very interesting for me what other wizards there can do on this fight. Mt with dirge, me and warlock in my grp with troub. Allies: (07:45) 3621512 | 7788,20 [Fomka-Ice Nova-12824] Necro 414796 | 892,03 Fomka 372141 | 800,30 Brig 335191 | 720,84 Ranger 299465 | 644,01 Brig 259341 | 557,72 Warlock 250517 | 538,75 Conj 219163 | 471,32 Swash190695 | 410,10 Also i want to mention that this fight was a bit longer than usual (almost 1:30-2 mins logner than other times we were there). Also not very lucky with adds and raid setup, but anyway who cares <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So it would be very nice if some other wizards can post their's parses from Chel'Drak.

IllusiveThoughts

09-28-2006, 06:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: One parse here, this time from Chel'drak. I havent seen ppl posting here turtle fights yet so it's very interesting for me what other wizards there can do on this fight. Mt with dirge, me and warlock in my grp with troub. Allies: (07:45) 3621512 | 7788,20 [Fomka-Ice Nova-12824] Necro 414796 | 892,03 Fomka 372141 | 800,30 Brig 335191 | 720,84 Ranger 299465 | 644,01 Brig 259341 | 557,72 Warlock 250517 | 538,75 Conj 219163 | 471,32 Swash190695 | 410,10 Also i want to mention that this fight was a bit longer than usual (almost 1:30-2 mins logner than other times we were there). Also not very lucky with adds and raid setup, but anyway who cares <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So it would be very nice if some other wizards can post their's parses from Chel'Drak. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> You wont see any from me, I've never even seen the zone. Maybe after EOF comes out.

Fews

09-28-2006, 09:51 PM

At work so I don't have the parse with meI did about 980 or so DPS on our first kill of Chel'drak and it seemed I was top DPS. Took us about ten minutes.Since your raid is killing it in 7 and a half minutes means we need to improve our raid.Problem for me in parsing is that I am ranged, and ACT doesn't give me everyone's info at the times I am at range. Not sure if there is a way I can fix that.Only reason I know I was at top of parse was from other people also parsing(and I can compare my DPS on my parse with their DPS on their parse). My DPS of me on my parse for zone was greater than their DPS for themselves on their parse for zone.So a zone wide only from me would be unmeaningful because a lot of other people in the raid's damage wasn't shownMessage Edited by Fewson on 09-28-2006 10:53 AM

TheBu

09-28-2006, 10:04 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fewson wrote: Problem for me in parsing is that I am ranged, and ACT doesn't give me everyone's info at the times I am at range. Not sure if there is a way I can fix that. Message Edited by Fewson on 09-28-2006 10:53 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> did u die, and revive? that would tro it off with the time it takes to rezone..

Fews

09-28-2006, 10:37 PM

Nope, Didn't lose information from dieing[Don't "think" I died that time midfight].But If I am at far range then the numbers from other raid members seems to be not sent to the eq2 client from the eq2 server and therefore not seen by ACT parser.If you ever fight a mob from a long range you see less numbers from others[even people right next to you].

Lakespookie

09-28-2006, 11:08 PM

In regards to the DPS diffrences between illu and others on page 5 i think alot of it tenbds to play sty AA set up and gear for your set up i have all adept 3 spells and a few masters untill id say about 1 month ago i was always wizzy 2 the reason ive jumped to wizzy one status are a weve been haveing an illutionist recently and im not afraid to open up as much not that im not capable of high numbers but a dead wizzy does the guild no good 2 ive altered my spell lines a tad bit not so much as to make a significant change but ive squezed out maybe 150-200 more dps the most important part however is that for the most part i finaly have the gear i feel comfertable with for my play style and aa choices i would say im well equpied im not ubber equiped but im probably better equiped than most, now with the exception of the mantle of leadership and some Cuff which i dont rememebr the name of but you can look up my toon i swap out a lot of gear for FT because my AA choices dictate that foe example i wear an invoker robe <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and i wear a 4 FT cuff with only 65 hp and mana abd i also wear 2 of those 4 ft books from poa with no stats yet i can still easily maintain 1300-1500 dps when i have a decent raid set up your best bet would be to experiment ith casting orders via ACT and see your results RT with the mini parser/look at your aa lines and playstyle and gear yourself around that mind you im like illusive in that i swap alot of gear for certin fights i dont teen to move away from my FT gear but i will often swap out intel items for off stats and resists in raid as im at int cap with out raid in raid im still over after taking the hit to get my FT (im FT capped soft and hard with troubie regen). ACT mini parse is your friend it lets you know how close to the dps death line you are and also how effecive your casting order is...

IllusiveThoughts

10-01-2006, 09:26 AM

here's the last labs raid, I was in MT group for hate gain. had synergism. still using new build of agi 4/4/4/8/1 and wis 4/5/4/8 Allies: (51:54) 30066488 | 9655.26 [Illu-Fusion-20593] Illu 4577965 | 1471.07 me 1470.2 ext dps. Haun 2817892 | 906.07 ranger Oben 2449285 | 787.55 warlock Acce 2313536 | 743.66 necro Vinh 1822376 | 585.60 monk Trit 1538126 | 746.30 conj who left about 3/4 way.

HerzenFunia

10-01-2006, 12:06 PM

Some random parses from DT. Shame i dont have zone parse and my isp went donw just before tari and cruor :/ Troub in my grp, dirge in mt. Allies: (00:17) 298662 | 17568,35 [Fomka-Fusion-16252] Fomka 58127 | 3419,24 Warlock 43368 | 2551,06 Ranger 37419 | 2201,12 Conj 33669 | 1980,53 Pally 22968 | 1351,06 Fury 16748 | 985,18 etc. THis parse from heroic worms. Nothing special here, I just like big numbers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (04:21) 3467346 | 13284,85 [Fomka-Ice Nova-14486] Fomka 381011 | 1459,81 Assassin 287389 | 1101,11 Wizard 284032 | 1088.25 Warlock 257072 | 984,95 Conj 229106 | 877,80 Pally 200199 | 767,05 This one is from named drake.

Raidi Sovin'faile

10-01-2006, 01:01 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> here's the last labs raid, I was in MT group for hate gain. had synergism. still using new build of agi 4/4/4/8/1 and wis 4/5/4/8 Allies: (51:54) 30066488 | 9655.26 [Illu-Fusion-20593]Illu 4577965 | 1471.07 me 1470.2 ext dps.Haun 2817892 | 906.07 rangerOben 2449285 | 787.55 warlockAcce 2313536 | 743.66 necroVinh 1822376 | 585.60 monkTrit 1538126 | 746.30 conj who left about 3/4 way.<hr></blockquote>You had Harmonious Link as well, don't forget. And after the first dozen or so fights the brigand showed up, heh.I need to improve my zonewide DPS more on labs runs.. just keep getting shy of 500, so I keep getting cut off, lol.</div>

Romka

10-02-2006, 08:13 AM

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div>One parse here, this time from Chel'drak. I havent seen ppl posting here turtle fights yet so it's very interesting for me what other wizards there can do on this fight. Mt with dirge, me and warlock in my grp with troub.Allies: (07:45) 3621512 | 7788,20 [Fomka-Ice Nova-12824] Necro 414796 | 892,03Fomka 372141 | 800,30 Brig 335191 | 720,84 Ranger 299465 | 644,01 Brig 259341 | 557,72 Warlock 250517 | 538,75 Conj 219163 | 471,32Swash190695 | 410,10Also i want to mention that this fight was a bit longer than usual (almost 1:30-2 mins logner than other times we were there). Also not very lucky with adds and raid setup, but anyway who cares <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So it would be very nice if some other wizards can post their's parses from Chel'Drak.<hr size="2" width="100%"></blockquote>Though Im not a wizard, here are parses from last 3 fights, always dead on 1st pull.Unfortunatelly I dont have logs from 5:05 duration fight, which was our best.Also, dont have logs from previous fights where we had wizards, but as I remember they were doing about 800-900 dps.Allies: (06:41) 3581866 | 8932 | Moving-12184Amnepoh 469850 | 1172 | 13% NecroBaltazarr 376333 | 938 | 10% WarlockBriza 344371 | 859 | 9% BrigandLyndorn 315221 | 786 | 8% RangerSiddartus 237657 | 593 | 6% ConjMoving 215319 | 537 | 6% AssassinSondrax 207845 | 518 | 5% CoercerCheetanta 190596 | 475 | 5% SwashTasmin 181637 | 453 | 5% IlluIn this fight priests slacked a little and CD was healed at ~70%, thats why so long duration and big total dmg numbers.Allies: (08:01) 4255493 | 8847 | Moving-13508Amnepoh 542666 | 1128 | 12% NecroBriza 472260 | 982 | 11% BrigandBaltazarr 432915 | 900 | 10% WarlockCheetanta 335218 | 697 | 7% SwashVaanir 299011 | 622 | 7% AssassinEjic 292200 | 607 | 6% RangerSondrax 230256 | 479 | 5% CoercerMoving 223381 | 464 | 5% AssassinSlaan 212477 | 442 | 4% BruiserAllies: (06:39) 3611240 | 9006 | Xtrim-17861Amnepoh 401274 | 1001 | 11% NecroBaltazarr 350288 | 874 | 9% WarlockBriza 344208 | 858 | 9% BrigandXtrim 333038 | 831 | 9% WizardFarvator 318333 | 794 | 8% BrigandVaanir 249696 | 623 | 6% AssassinCheetanta 237809 | 593 | 6% SwashSondrax 235106 | 586 | 6% CoercerTasmin 208234 | 519 | 5% IlluSiddartus 183673 | 458 | 5% Conj</div>

IllusiveThoughts

10-02-2006, 09:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Romka wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: One parse here, this time from Chel'drak. I havent seen ppl posting here turtle fights yet so it's very interesting for me what other wizards there can do on this fight. Mt with dirge, me and warlock in my grp with troub. Allies: (07:45) 3621512 | 7788,20 [Fomka-Ice Nova-12824] Necro 414796 | 892,03 Fomka 372141 | 800,30 Brig 335191 | 720,84 Ranger 299465 | 644,01 Brig 259341 | 557,72 Warlock 250517 | 538,75 Conj 219163 | 471,32 Swash190695 | 410,10 Also i want to mention that this fight was a bit longer than usual (almost 1:30-2 mins logner than other times we were there). Also not very lucky with adds and raid setup, but anyway who cares <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So it would be very nice if some other wizards can post their's parses from Chel'Drak. <HR width="100%" SIZE=2> </BLOCKQUOTE>Though Im not a wizard, here are parses from last 3 fights, always dead on 1st pull. Unfortunatelly I dont have logs from 5:05 duration fight, which was our best. Also, dont have logs from previous fights where we had wizards, but as I remember they were doing about 800-900 dps. Allies: (06:41) 3581866 | 8932 | Moving-12184 Amnepoh 469850 | 1172 | 13% Necro Baltazarr 376333 | 938 | 10% Warlock Briza 344371 | 859 | 9% Brigand Lyndorn 315221 | 786 | 8% Ranger Siddartus 237657 | 593 | 6% Conj Moving 215319 | 537 | 6% Assassin Sondrax 207845 | 518 | 5% Coercer Cheetanta 190596 | 475 | 5% Swash Tasmin 181637 | 453 | 5% Illu In this fight priests slacked a little and CD was healed at ~70%, thats why so long duration and big total dmg numbers. Allies: (08:01) 4255493 | 8847 | Moving-13508 Amnepoh 542666 | 1128 | 12% Necro Briza 472260 | 982 | 11% Brigand Baltazarr 432915 | 900 | 10% Warlock Cheetanta 335218 | 697 | 7% Swash Vaanir 299011 | 622 | 7% Assassin Ejic 292200 | 607 | 6% Ranger Sondrax 230256 | 479 | 5% Coercer Moving 223381 | 464 | 5% Assassin Slaan 212477 | 442 | 4% Bruiser Allies: (06:39) 3611240 | 9006 | Xtrim-17861 Amnepoh 401274 | 1001 | 11% Necro Baltazarr 350288 | 874 | 9% Warlock Briza 344208 | 858 | 9% Brigand Xtrim 333038 | 831 | 9% Wizard Farvator 318333 | 794 | 8% Brigand Vaanir 249696 | 623 | 6% Assassin Cheetanta 237809 | 593 | 6% Swash Sondrax 235106 | 586 | 6% Coercer Tasmin 208234 | 519 | 5% Illu Siddartus 183673 | 458 | 5% Conj </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> thanks for sharing, if anyone has any parses from tough mobs like tarinax, and matron to add that would be great.

Melseb

10-02-2006, 10:58 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div> One parse here, this time from Chel'drak. I havent seen ppl posting here turtle fights yet so it's very interesting for me what other wizards there can do on this fight. Mt with dirge, me and warlock in my grp with troub. Allies: (07:45) 3621512 | 7788,20 [Fomka-Ice Nova-12824] Necro 414796 | 892,03 Fomka 372141 | 800,30 Brig 335191 | 720,84 Ranger 299465 | 644,01 Brig 259341 | 557,72 Warlock 250517 | 538,75 Conj 219163 | 471,32 Swash190695 | 410,10 Also i want to mention that this fight was a bit longer than usual (almost 1:30-2 mins logner than other times we were there). Also not very lucky with adds and raid setup, but anyway who cares <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So it would be very nice if some other wizards can post their's parses from Chel'Drak.<hr></blockquote>Ill have to try and get [Removed for Content] of our Chel drak this week. The top parses are usually in the mid 800's and I rarerly get beat out that fight. Many linked mobs to aoe down.Daenarys70 WarlockMob SquadKithicor</div>

Tanit

10-02-2006, 03:00 PM

<div></div>From our first CD kill, kinda slow. I must've been oor from the brigand also.Allies: (07:37) 3684735 | 8062,88 [Tethra-Ice Nova-16562]Wizard 505772 | 1106,72 | 13%Necromancer 481445 | 1053,49 | 13%Swashbuckler 295870 | 647,42 | 8%Coercer 282936 | 619,12 | 7%Assassin 279265 | 611,08 | 7%Conjurer 256965 | 562,29 | 6%Bruiser 220616 | 482,75 | 5%Illusionist 216562 | 473,88 | 5%<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

10-07-2006, 10:43 AM

Here's lyceum today. Buffs: amends + harmonious link + vim. MT had coercer + dirge for hate gain. I was put into 2nd tank group for hate gain for paly, so I missed out on the troubador buffs, no brigand tonight either. as a comparison tool from my last lyceum parse where I was buffed to the hilt, and it was on the lu 27 ninja debuff boost, and my old aa set up, here's my dps not counting vullicide Allies: (47:03) 38001588 | 13461.42 [Ozzieman-Fusion-22778] Illu 4481689 | 1588.69 dps 1587.6 ext dps. I died 2x when the ranger pulled agro I was sitting at 1200 dps before my first death on vullicide about 4 min into fight. Allies: (07:0<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2806395 | 6557.00 [Illu-Ice Nova-19547] Illu 329878 | 781.70 Haun 313233 | 758.43 Numb 284207 | 712.30 Trit 233447 | 563.88 Oben 216126 | 523.31 and here's the zone parse including vullicide. Allies: (54:11) 40804547 | 12551.38 [Ozzieman-Fusion-22778] Illu 4811567 | 1480.94 me Trit 3416149 | 1051.45 conj Haun 3056631 | 941.08 ranger Numb 3037770 | 935.27 ranger Ozzi 2687507 | 828.71 wiz Nald 2488661 | 765.98 sk mt Vinh 2051154 | 631.32 monk Sand 1793868 | 552.13 coercer Band 1757259 | 540.86 zerker

Kelkirra

10-08-2006, 05:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: Here's lyceum today. Buffs: amends + harmonious link + vim. MT had coercer + dirge for hate gain. I was put into 2nd tank group for hate gain for paly, so I missed out on the troubador buffs, no brigand tonight either. as a comparison tool from my last lyceum parse where I was buffed to the hilt, and it was on the lu 27 ninja debuff boost, and my old aa set up, here's my dps not counting vullicide Allies: (47:03) 38001588 | 13461.42 [Ozzieman-Fusion-22778] Illu 4481689 | 1588.69 dps 1587.6 ext dps. I died 2x when the ranger pulled agro I was sitting at 1200 dps before my first death on vullicide about 4 min into fight. Allies: (07:0<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2806395 | 6557.00 [Illu-Ice Nova-19547] Illu 329878 | 781.70 Haun 313233 | 758.43 Numb 284207 | 712.30 Trit 233447 | 563.88 Oben 216126 | 523.31 and here's the zone parse including vullicide. Allies: (54:11) 40804547 | 12551.38 [Ozzieman-Fusion-22778] Illu 4811567 | 1480.94 me Trit 3416149 | 1051.45 conj Haun 3056631 | 941.08 ranger Numb 3037770 | 935.27 ranger Ozzi 2687507 | 828.71 wiz Nald 2488661 | 765.98 sk mt Vinh 2051154 | 631.32 monk Sand 1793868 | 552.13 coercer Band 1757259 | 540.86 zerker <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> That was an intense fight . . .and I'm still trying to out how a "useless" ranger pulled agro from me not once, but twice in the same fight. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

IllusiveThoughts

10-08-2006, 09:05 PM

<DIV>Here's labs from yesterday:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Buffs: amends + harmonious link + synergism + Dirge buffs (dktm + 7.2% allegro + 41 power regen) + brigand</DIV> <DIV>MT had dirge + coercer + me for hate gain</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ZONE PARSE</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (52:15) 33122340 | 10565.34 [Ozzieman-Fusion-27485] Illu 4763980 | 1520.58 me 1519.61 ext dps Numb 3162613 | 1014.63 ranger (woot his first labs 1k parse) Oben 2905521 | 935.76 warlock Acce 2426571 | 778.75 necro Ozzi 2311038 | 740.24 wiz 2 Kais 2097065 | 674.08 bruiser Kyle 2040617 | 653.62 brigand Vinh 1835486 | 590.57 monk Etho 1779635 | 568.03 paly MT Band 1551020 | 520.30 zerker</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and here's vyemm, this is the fastest we have ever downed him and I didn't die</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:55) 1242343 | 7099.10 [Ozzieman-Fusion-14217] Illu 164996 | 1012.25 me Acce 134113 | 1099.29 necro Oben 131113 | 753.52 warlock Ozzi 106095 | 650.89 wiz2 Kyle 97595 | 570.73 brig Numb 77090 | 664.57 ranger (died on pull) </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Renaven

10-13-2006, 05:43 AM

<DIV>I guess I should contribute to this thread. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And in case you didn't know, I'm a Wizard. Sure wish I could get Synergism every once in a while... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Buffs - Troub procs + Harmonous Link.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Halls of Seeing Zone Parse:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (56:5<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> | 16165.87 [Renaven-Fusion-27776] Renaven 5615616 | 1642.95 Assassin #1 4607849 | 1348.11 Brigand #1 4255093 | 1244.91 Assassin #2 4211207 | 1232.07 Brigand #2 3650054 | 1067.89 Warlock 3596331 | 1052.17</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Couple of nameds below.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Elemental Warder:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> | 18228.98 [Renaven-Ice Nova-22541] Renaven 347268 | 2067.07 Conjurer 308271 | 1834.95 Assassin 237704 | 1414.91 Brigand #1 211998 | 1261.89 Shadowknight 210287 | 1251.71 Brigand #2 209942 | 1249.66</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Venekor:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (02:36) | 18113.01 [Renaven-Ice Nova-17871] Renaven 291955 | 1871.51 Conjurer 242348 | 1553.51 Berserker 220288 | 1412.10 Warlock 214780 | 1376.80 Assassin #1 198236 | 1270.74 Assassin #2 190000 | 1217.95</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Renaven

10-14-2006, 05:01 AM

<DIV>Only buffs - Troubador deaggro + procs, and Harmonous Link.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lyceum Zone Parse:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (37:32) | 19018.09 [Arkmaru-Fusion-29264] Renaven (Wiz #1) 3912098 | 1737.17 Killua (Assa #1) 3231068 | 1434.76 Exco (Zerker) 3207657 | 1424.36 Roobarb (Warl) 3070678 | 1363.53 Ownz (Assa #2) 3020863 | 1341.41 Arkmaru (Wiz #2) 2829671 | 1256.52</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: Changed "[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]" to "Assa" so it would not get filtered out.</DIV>Message Edited by Renaven on 10-13-2006 08:44 PM

The Ban

10-14-2006, 06:07 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Renaven wrote: <DIV>Only buffs - Troubador deaggro + procs, and Harmonous Link.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lyceum Zone Parse:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (37:32) | 19018.09 [Arkmaru-Fusion-29264] Renaven (wiz#1) 3912098 | 1737.17 Killua ([expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] #1) 3231068 | 1434.76 Exco (Zerker) 3207657 | 1424.36 Roobarb (Warl) 3070678 | 1363.53 Ownz ([expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] #2) 3020863 | 1341.41 Arkmaru (Wiz #2) 2829671 | 1256.52</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Wow 1737, think thats the highest zone parse I have ever seen from a wizard. You must have a very very good tank.

Renaven

10-14-2006, 07:43 AM

<DIV>Yeah, our tank Kirby is amazing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>Message Edited by Renaven on 10-13-2006 09:27 PM

IllusiveThoughts

10-14-2006, 09:50 AM

Renaven

10-14-2006, 10:10 AM

Kelkirra

10-14-2006, 06:36 PM

<DIV>Sry about that pull Illu =(. That guy has developed a habit of resisting my initial taunts and Alle planeshifting with the rest of his pet buffs up sending the pet in before I even get into position didn't really help anything <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV>

HerzenFunia

10-14-2006, 08:40 PM

IllusiveThoughts

10-14-2006, 11:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sarasoon wrote: <DIV>Sry about that pull Illu =(. That guy has developed a habit of resisting my initial taunts and Alle planeshifting with the rest of his pet buffs up sending the pet in before I even get into position didn't really help anything <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> no worries bud, I always start off the fight casting a hex of chaos doll(all magic debuff) I think alle learned the hard way not to planeshift on pull against him lol. Still was an epic fight though. And our zone dps was up by at least 4-5k from when we normally do the zone, so I had a blast.

IllusiveThoughts

10-14-2006, 11:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Renaven wrote: <DIV>Nice job Illu.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> ha comming from your 1700 + parses I should be complimenting you. but thanks man

Kelkirra

10-15-2006, 12:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sarasoon wrote: <DIV>Sry about that pull Illu =(. That guy has developed a habit of resisting my initial taunts and Alle planeshifting with the rest of his pet buffs up sending the pet in before I even get into position didn't really help anything <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> no worries bud, I always start off the fight casting a hex of chaos doll(all magic debuff) I think alle learned the hard way not to planeshift on pull against him lol. Still was an epic fight though. And our zone dps was up by at least 4-5k from when we normally do the zone, so I had a blast. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> It just seems to be the initial pull with that guy. Hell, his memwipe in that one stance isn't even that big of an issue. Maybe it's just me but he does seem to slightly memwipe on pull . . .sometimes. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But yeah, that was a hella fight and our DPS is really getting up there. =D Thanks for the help and comming along for as many deaths as I have had =P.

ItsMrHarris2u

10-18-2006, 12:51 AM

<DIV>I'm working to increase my raid dps and could use some pointers. This thread is nice for output comparisons, but what about the input? Meaning, what spells and casting order are you using to get your dps up?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you open w/ protoferno and forge of ro? long reuse spells first? do you debuff? do you always use firestorm? should I compare damage to casting times for casting order?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any ideas and comments on how to get dps up would help, not just what your dps is. I imagine the quality of spells is important, but aside from that, there has to be a somewhat standard casting order for high dps?</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

10-18-2006, 01:12 AM

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ItsMrHarris2u wrote: <DIV>I'm working to increase my raid dps and could use some pointers. This thread is nice for output comparisons, but what about the input? Meaning, what spells and casting order are you using to get your dps up?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you open w/ protoferno and forge of ro? long reuse spells first? do you debuff? do you always use firestorm? should I compare damage to casting times for casting order?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any ideas and comments on how to get dps up would help, not just what your dps is. I imagine the quality of spells is important, but aside from that, there has to be a somewhat standard casting order for high dps?</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> scroll down on the first page</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=23&message.id=27417" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=23&message.id=27417</A></DIV>

ItsMrHarris2u

10-18-2006, 01:26 AM

I just found this link and am reading it over. Thanks for the quick reply.

Faheuc

10-20-2006, 02:07 AM

IllusiveThoughts

10-20-2006, 03:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rebootrequired wrote: <DIV> lyceum parse: Gnillaw Allies: (05:16) 3565456 | 11,283.09 [Assassin-Decapitate-18428] Faheuc 450837 | 1,426.70 </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>holy hell nice dps on a 5 min fight against this dude.

Faheuc

10-20-2006, 03:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> rebootrequired wrote: <DIV> lyceum parse: Gnillaw Allies: (05:16) 3565456 | 11,283.09 [Assassin-Decapitate-18428] Faheuc 450837 | 1,426.70 </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>holy hell nice dps on a 5 min fight against this dude. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> thanks, had ill and troub(for the first time) so i was able to do much better. hope to do better later as the troub was only 61, and not fully AA'd yet

Renaven

10-20-2006, 01:16 PM

<DIV>Did Lyceum again today and I did 1744 zone-wide DPS. Sigh, the zone was lagging fairly badly at times due to about 5 guilds being in there. I feel as if I could have easily broken 1.8k otherwise. Maybe next time. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: I just had Troub procs/deaggro and Harmonious Link.</DIV>Message Edited by Renaven on 10-20-2006 02:17 AM

HerzenFunia

10-20-2006, 03:39 PM

<DIV>Here is parses from our last two 2 matron fights. Both times only troub buffs.</DIV> <DIV>This is our yesterday kill (2 guilds attempting):</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (09:40) 3722469 | 6418,05 [Fomka-Ice Nova-19851] Brigand 395382 | 681,69 Fomka 382964 | 660,28 Ranger 364196 | 627,92 Brigand 324418 | 559,34 Necro 248077 | 427,72 Warlock 215775 | 372,03 Dirge 179413 | 309,33 etc... Tho i was unlucky here with port under Matron and getting aoe in next second, so was dead near 20secs. Also the guy who was parsing was ported far away and missed 20-30secs of fight. So the parser isn't very accurate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our previous kill. Sadly this parse contains 2nd mob also so this is why fight time so long. Matron was killed in near 8mins 30secs and only we were there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (13:49) 5931876 | 7155,46 [Fomka-Ice Nova-16956] Brigand 635627 | 766,74 Brigand 600958 | 724,92 Ranger 531159 | 640,72 Ranger 469147 | 565,92 Fomka 446897 | 539,08 Necro 383768 | 462,93 Guard 335740 | 404,99 Conj 306157 | 369,31 Assassin 294624 | 355,40 Swash 291306 | 351,39 Warlock 289498 | 349,21 </DIV> <DIV>etc... It was our fastest Matron kill. No lag ftw, tho parser isn't that good coz dps on 2nd mob usually afk <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <DIV>PS Mb Renaven can share some of their Matron parsers? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

HerzenFunia

10-24-2006, 05:59 PM

Another Chel'Drak fight. Troub buffs for me and warlock. Allies: (06:22) 3369444 | 8828,92 [Fomka-Ice Nova-22971] Fomka 404756 | 1067,96 Necro 306510 | 802,38 Ranger 290526 | 760,54 Warlock 275684 | 721,69 Brig 230890 | 604,42 Conj 230405 | 603,15 Ranger 224989 | 588,98 Brig 220897 | 578,26 etc... Tho I beleive our turtle parses isn't very accurate <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And this is parse from Xuxlaio (last boss in Roost). Just was a bit surprised about this dps. Troub and amends for me here and also troub buffs for warlock and other wizard. Allies: (03:45) 998375 | 4437.22 [Fomka-Ice Nova-18006] Fomka 226066| 1004,74 Wizard 132851 | 585.25 Brig 124945 | 550.42 Swash 113549 | 500.22 Warlock 102485 | 451.48 Illus 76913 | 338.82 Zerker 76855 | 338.57 Paladin 70878 | 312.24 Troub 40809 | 179.78 etc... (3 healers) Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 10-24-2006 06:13 PM

HerzenFunia

10-28-2006, 11:57 PM

Another matron fight here. Troub buffs for other wizard, warlock and me. Parser is quite accurate because person who was parsing wasnt ported at all. Same for me and other wizard. Allies: (08:04) 3589328 | 7 415,97 [Fomka-Ice Nova-18414] Brig 356991 | 737,58 Fomka 334204 | 690,50 Wizard 328539 | 678,80 Ranger 311764 | 644,14 Brig 294659 | 608,80 Ranger 278997 | 576,44 Illusionist 208328 | 430,43 Warlock 182750 | 377,58 Bruiser 157183 | 324,76 Conj 148750 | 307,33 Zerker 148021 | 305,83 Guard 146601 | 302,89 I wonder how illus outdpsed warlock <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> All 3 mobs took us to kill 15min 30secs.Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 10-28-2006 11:59 PM

HerzenFunia

11-01-2006, 04:39 AM

<DIV>This parse is from HoS. Troub and amends for me, only troub for other wizard who was in slack mode <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (55:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 56780932 | 17061,58 [Fomka-Fusion-25010] Fomka 4958081 | 1489,81 Ranger 4416347 | 1327,03 Ranger 3935441 | 1182,52 Assa 3931128 | 1181,23 Brig 3833472 | 1151,89 Zerker 3617806 | 1087,08 Wizard 3489295 | 1048,47 Conj 3428549 | 1030,21 Brig 3156118 | 948,35 Conj 2974545 | 893,79 Dirge 2771613 | 832,82 Bruiser 2607438 | 783,49 Swash 2405520 | 722,81 Pally 2088443 | 627,54 Illus 1919270 | 576,70 Dirge 1742134 | 523,48</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think I could do more without the horrible lag spikes I've had <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Next time will try to hit 1.6k <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

11-01-2006, 05:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: <DIV>This parse is from HoS. Troub and amends for me, only troub for other wizard who was in slack mode <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (55:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 56780932 | 17061,58 [Fomka-Fusion-25010] Fomka 4958081 | 1489,81 Ranger 4416347 | 1327,03 Ranger 3935441 | 1182,52 Assa 3931128 | 1181,23 Brig 3833472 | 1151,89 Zerker 3617806 | 1087,08 Wizard 3489295 | 1048,47 Conj 3428549 | 1030,21 Brig 3156118 | 948,35 Conj 2974545 | 893,79 Dirge 2771613 | 832,82 Bruiser 2607438 | 783,49 Swash 2405520 | 722,81 Pally 2088443 | 627,54 Illus 1919270 | 576,70 Dirge 1742134 | 523,48</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think I could do more without the horrible lag spikes I've had <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Next time will try to hit 1.6k <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> whoa nice parse in HOS bud, that place is hard to break 1400, and your nearly 1500

Falcogen

11-01-2006, 11:41 PM

IllusiveThoughts

11-02-2006, 12:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShaneFalco wrote: Last weeks lyceum this weeks was 1811.something Buffs Troub and FH phoenixblade Allies: (34:54) | 21305.97 [Quenthal-Fusion-27690] Falcogen (me) 3813121 | 1820.98 Angie (swash) 3523842 | 1682.59 Nueen (necro) 3461245 | 1652.94 Quenthal (Wiz) 3275644 | 1564.30 Pickme (Brig) 3053313 | 1458.13 Flauros (Necro) 2968551 | 1417.65 Kobal (agro man) 2934070 | 1401.79 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nice work man, thats a huge improvement over the first lyceum parse i saw out of you. I think thats the highest in lyceum posted so far! lets find a way to break 2k in there next

Falcogen

11-02-2006, 07:50 AM

<DIV>Been testing many AA lines most of the others seems to restrict u to the 1700 vincinty but if u can live and land big fusions i dont think 2k zonewide is impossible</DIV>

HerzenFunia

11-02-2006, 03:33 PM

HerzenFunia

11-09-2006, 07:34 PM

Another Matron fight. Troub buffs for wizards as usuall <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (09:11) 4018326 | 7292.79 [Fomka-Ice Nova-22823] Fomka 450078 | 816.84 Brig 390528 | 710,05 Brig 387314 | 704,21 Ranger 387571 | 703.40 Ranger 381318 | 692.05 Necro 251783 | 456.96 Wizard 250542 | 454.70 etc... I got only few short ports, other wizard got one big port and one of brigs got 2 big ports too. PS For those who think wizards suck - [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing reroll. Sry but been a long time reading whining about wizards and it got me.

Renaven

11-10-2006, 12:47 AM

<DIV>2k zonewide is definitely possible imo. Though I may not see that before EoF, because we haven't had every key member on lately. If we did though, then I would definitely say that it's possible.</DIV>

HerzenFunia

11-10-2006, 03:25 AM

Mini parse from beta. NO troub, no coerc, no pally, no illusionist buffs. Almost nothing, not even pwr buff or regen buff. It was some trash mob with a lot of hp. Well i like how wizard ability shows in eof <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <IMG src="http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4018/eq2000042vf9.jpg"> Edit: And yeah no freaking manaburns!Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 11-10-2006 02:26 AM

IllusiveThoughts

11-10-2006, 04:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Mini parse from beta. NO troub, no coerc, no pally, no illusionist buffs. Almost nothing, not even pwr buff or regen buff. It was some trash mob with a lot of hp. Well i like how wizard ability shows in eof <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <IMG src="http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4018/eq2000042vf9.jpg"> Edit: And yeah no freaking manaburns! Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 11-10-2006 02:26 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> holy dps batman 1737 single target for 3 minutes!!!!!!!

HerzenFunia

11-10-2006, 03:12 PM

I hope the *Age* of wizards coming back in EoF <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Imho atm EoF wizard much much better than KoS wizard.Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 11-10-2006 02:12 PM

ailees

11-10-2006, 08:56 PM

what AA (main, not eof) did you have in beta ?<div></div>

HerzenFunia

11-10-2006, 11:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: what AA (main, not eof) did you have in beta ? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Agi 4448 and Wis 45488. Respeced to this on live server yesterday too.

IllusiveThoughts

11-11-2006, 10:55 AM

Renaven

11-11-2006, 11:48 AM

<DIV>I wish I had those sorts of buffs today Illusive. Our Coercer wasn't on. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Having one on compared to having one off is like night and day for me.</DIV>

ailees

11-11-2006, 01:25 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div>Agi 4448 and Wis 45488. Respeced to this on live server yesterday too.<hr></blockquote>what did you choose and why ? the more I'm looking at EoF, the more I think fast casting will be best ally with fire line, instead of Crit line. I mean in terms of DPS of course.</div>

IllusiveThoughts

11-12-2006, 04:00 AM

<DIV>OMG</DIV> <DIV>Freethinkers hideout</DIV> <DIV>First named called : zylphax the shredder (single target no adds)</DIV> <DIV>buffs: vim, synergism, amends, harmonious link 810 int 9k power (still dont have eof aa's)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (04:14) 3021213 | 11895 [Mauv-Decapitate-21107] Illu | 9 | 479631 | 1903 me!!!!!!!!! holy crapola Liny | 46 | 329654 | 1379 coercer Mauv | 57 | 315676 | 1268 assasin Yuki | 66 | 299505 | 1208 brigand Ebys | 62 | 297419 | 1194 illusionist Dtri | 39 | 282335 | 1143 brigand Vyli | 73 | 216332 | 865 illusionist Rhan | 38 | 193060 | 766 mt guard Feti | 6 | 181579 | 750 brigand Best | 32 | 149484 | 605 ranger </DIV> Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 11-11-2006 03:00 PMMessage Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 11-11-2006 03:01 PM

HerzenFunia

11-12-2006, 04:41 AM

I think EoF AA's and adorments give us a lot of + dps. Today I parsed on this fisrt named 1.6k and had no buff's <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Our troub's slack a lot <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

iceriven2

11-12-2006, 06:12 AM

Just wanted to say this thread helped me a lot in lycuem last nite. I am in a casual raiding guild and when i am able to go to raids i usualy parsed at around 800-1200, but after seeing some of the things i can do to increase that dps i parsed 1200-1900. Increase was so noticable i had about 5 tells asking what i am doin different. We have a wizzie, necro, assassin, and conj , plus me that tops the parses and I was beating all of them all the time it was great <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kule

11-12-2006, 05:45 PM

<div></div>Heya Illu, I got a parse of the same fight from FTH if it helps for some more comparisons.Allies: (02:24) 2728435 | 18947.46 [Albione-Decapitate-19197](Swash) Snarkx 281410 | 2024.53(Conj) Hinotama 238786 | 1730.33(Wizard) Greymist 216578 | 1525.20(Assassin) Albione 200051 | 1504.14(Ranger) Skylancer 199839 | 1491.34(Guard) Cadd 173627 | 1249.12(Bruiser) Dakill 172104 | 1220.60(Wizard) Mana 169431 | 1210.22(Swash) Okke 153173 | 1169.26(MT-Guard) Minter 158710 | 1117.68(Wizard) Lotek 144397 | 1038.83(Coercer) Xelus 139915 | 1021.28Here is Greymists (Wizard) parse info, Unfortunately I don't know if he used beta buffer and is at adept3 or if he was tyring a new AA respec that didn't work so well for him or anything, so I'm not sure how much this would help for comparison...<img src="http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8062/dps1vd8.gif"><img src="http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/4307/dps2zj1.gif">Much respect Illu, nice thread.<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

11-13-2006, 12:37 AM

cool cadd thanks for the contribution!

Syth

11-13-2006, 09:58 PM

I for one would LOVE some parses of times when there was no hate reduction in the group, simply so I can compare it to my experiences. I don't think I've had a troub, pally or coercer in the raid in months, so it's nearly impossible for me to break 1k zonewide without pulling aggro every fight. Makes me a sad panda, but I live with it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

11-13-2006, 10:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sythyn wrote: I for one would LOVE some parses of times when there was no hate reduction in the group, simply so I can compare it to my experiences. I don't think I've had a troub, pally or coercer in the raid in months, so it's nearly impossible for me to break 1k zonewide without pulling aggro every fight. Makes me a sad panda, but I live with it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> there are, go back through the list, I posted at least 2 parses with no hate reduction on me. I remember piggy backing with a raiding guild that I masked the names and had 0 hate reduc and could only manage under 1200 dps for halls of seeing. I think I did close to 1200 for labs with no hate reduction also.

Syth

11-13-2006, 11:56 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Sythyn wrote:I for one would LOVE some parses of times when there was no hate reduction in the group, simply so I can compare it to my experiences. I don't think I've had a troub, pally or coercer in the raid in months, so it's nearly impossible for me to break 1k zonewide without pulling aggro every fight. Makes me a sad panda, but I live with it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> there are, go back through the list, I posted at least 2 parses with no hate reduction on me. I remember piggy backing with a raiding guild that I masked the names and had 0 hate reduc and could only manage under 1200 dps for halls of seeing. I think I did close to 1200 for labs with no hate reduction also.<hr></blockquote>Ah, just went back through and found a couple. I think I'm pretty much in line with that right now, really interested to see what I could do with a troub and coercer in the raid though! The few times I've been in AoAx2 I've parsed around 1500 on the single target nameds with no buffs, was quite proud of that <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Will have to try and get on a few raids with proper raid-guilds, ours is only casual and lacks most the support classes. Except dirges, we have three of them...</div>

IllusiveThoughts

11-18-2006, 11:19 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Renaven wrote: <DIV>2k zonewide is definitely possible imo. Though I may not see that before EoF, because we haven't had every key member on lately. If we did though, then I would definitely say that it's possible.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> uhm yeah i think i'll let this one speak for itself ran through lyceum today **all dps posted in extdps** since new parser screws up the dps i had to make the adjustment to extdps BUFFS: Fury - vim, Paly- amends + his disruption/subjigation group aa buff, + fearless moralle (1% to spell dmg, cast time and re-cast), Illusionist incombat regen (42) and synergism m2, Warlock (seal line m1 33 to disruption/subjigation) I have 5 points maxed into rending icicles eof aa, and sol ro cloak with sol ro flappy, + int potion + imbue proc ring = 830-850 int and about 8400 power. Allies: (47:04) 39858303 | 14114 [Illu-Fusion-23930] Illu 5745820 | 2035 me woooooooooot! Alle 3814018 | 1351 conj Haun 3095564 | 1096 ranger Oben 3060487 | 1084 warlock Vinh 2444308 | 866 monk Will 2404057 | 851 warlock2 Scht 2115383 | 749 assasin Etho 2017591 | 714 sk mt Kyle 1973510 | 699 brigand Sand 1455893 | 516 coercer somethings to note, we coudl not kill vullicide today. too much spike damage, but since all my lyceum parses didn't include in before its fitting to compare to previous ones. I was doing about 1700 on vullicide and we got him to 20% and wiped due to spike at last stance and buff strip. but overall i'm happy, and im sure other wizards are going to surpass this mark and probably do 2200-2400 zone dps now, with higher int than me and maybe more buffage. oh had to show off this parse it was crazy. (gnillaw) Allies: (03:22) 2918637 | 14449 [Illu-Ice Nova-17342] Illu 406515 | 2012 me Haun 244645 | 1211 range Alle 214829 | 1064 conj Vinh 194588 | 963 monk Oben 176579 | 874 warlock Etho 169224 | 838 sk mt Scht 159901 | 792 assasin Will 152370 | 754 warlock2 Band 133151 | 659 zerker Kyle 120721 | 598 brig Mman 120521 | 597 paly Exce 115509 | 572 guard Sand 113227 | 561 coercer Mill 111093 | 550 sk Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 11-17-2006 10:43 PM

Kelkirra

11-19-2006, 08:39 PM

<DIV>One of these days I'll actually show up to a raid again and we'll see if we can get you a 2200-2400 zone parse =P.</DIV>

HerzenFunia

11-30-2006, 03:17 PM

Few parsers from fth I have ss'ed (dont parse myself and kinda lazy to type all those numbers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). From buffs i've had troub deagro and wardens pwr buff. Near 650int and 9k pwr i think. Also only few points in heat line and none in cold line <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> First parse from encounter with a few vampires (it was on the way to 2nd named) <IMG src="http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6242/eq2000543gs5.jpg"> wizard warlock necro conj brig assassin (all mages in same grp with troub and warden) Second parse from 2nd named. <IMG src="http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/384/eq2000545qf2.jpg"> wizard necro assassin brig conj assassin zerker (mt) And the last one is just to show how fun to be a necro. I wasnt in raid just ss'ed this parse coz of numbers. I think that was Zantril or whatever it called in ToS (was an AA run <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <IMG src="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9263/eq2000547ac6.jpg"> necro ranger brig (lifeburn + undead tide ftw <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )

IllusiveThoughts

11-30-2006, 11:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Few parsers from fth I have ss'ed (dont parse myself and kinda lazy to type all those numbers <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). From buffs i've had troub deagro and wardens pwr buff. Near 650int and 9k pwr i think. Also only few points in heat line and none in cold line <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> First parse from encounter with a few vampires (it was on the way to 2nd named) <IMG src="http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6242/eq2000543gs5.jpg"> wizard warlock necro conj brig assassin (all mages in same grp with troub and warden) Second parse from 2nd named. <IMG src="http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/384/eq2000545qf2.jpg"> wizard necro assassin brig conj assassin zerker (mt) And the last one is just to show how fun to be a necro. I wasnt in raid just ss'ed this parse coz of numbers. I think that was Zantril or whatever it called in ToS (was an AA run <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <IMG src="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9263/eq2000547ac6.jpg"> necro ranger brig (lifeburn + undead tide ftw <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nice parses, I see you burned the crit miracle on the 2nd named with the 29k bol. I figured undead tide + lifeburn would = insane dps and that parse shows just that. you need to get some 51 int potions and start taking them! I never leave home without them. I typically use a stack per raid. All the wizards wanted to be able to buy dps, well go out and buy some int potions! Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 11-30-2006 10:13 AM

HerzenFunia

12-01-2006, 05:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: nice parses, I see you burned the crit miracle on the 2nd named with the 29k bol. I figured undead tide + lifeburn would = insane dps and that parse shows just that. you need to get some 51 int potions and start taking them! I never leave home without them. I typically use a stack per raid. All the wizards wanted to be able to buy dps, well go out and buy some int potions! Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 11-30-2006 10:13 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Hehe I have potions but I always forget to use em <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Usually after raid i'am thinking like *[Removed for Content] I didnt use any potion again <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> *

IllusiveThoughts

12-01-2006, 06:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: nice parses, I see you burned the crit miracle on the 2nd named with the 29k bol. I figured undead tide + lifeburn would = insane dps and that parse shows just that. you need to get some 51 int potions and start taking them! I never leave home without them. I typically use a stack per raid. All the wizards wanted to be able to buy dps, well go out and buy some int potions! Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 11-30-2006 10:13 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Hehe I have potions but I always forget to use em <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Usually after raid i'am thinking like *[Removed for Content] I didnt use any potion again <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> * <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> it wasn't that tough of an adjustment for me, since pre eof i used to take them because i wasn't at the cap with FT gear on, so now I have it hardwired to check my buff window every encounter to see if the int potion buff is up and mouse over it to see if it will last through the encounter. its enough of a buff to damage output that I can see when i forget a fight on the parser.

ailees

12-01-2006, 11:43 AM

I went into Lyceum yesterday night.After rerolling AAs to quit the crit line and go fast casting.Intelligence : 795, amend and the golden rose. Sol Ro cape, but still did not pray at altar (totally forgot to go before raid, and still did not think about what is good or not)Zone wide we are 3, an assassin, a swashbukcler and me with 1350/90 DPS.My record on a 3 mobs groups is "only" 1666.I'm very happy with that anyway.I just have a question : I tried to go higher - not hard : cast ice nova at begining (then enough time to recast) instead of 80% or fusion at 75 or things like that - But then I discovered that generally Pally would get agro (no Harmonious link to lower my agro) would get killed and me after. Am I wrong somewhere ? or pally ? or MT ? (sorry, did not notice who were in his group, will next time)I don't understand how can IT have such a big difference with other raid memebers and stay alive.hehe still got things to learn !..BTW the last mob is much more dangerous than he was, he also wiped us 5 times, revenge revenge REVENGE !!!!!!! <div></div>

SacDaddy420

12-01-2006, 04:00 PM

One thing I really like about the new EoF gear is the +chance to crit items. This has truely got to be the greatest proc on all our gear I've ever come accross. Man I can't wait until we start figuring out our strats for the new raid zones so i can get the sweet Fabled items with that proc. Right now I'm hooked up pretty well with the Novum Tectum (+2%), Warclamor Boots (+1%) , and the Hollowcell Bracelet (+1%). Add that to our Mark, 8 pts in our +crit chance KoS AA, and our Book pet, I'm sitting near 22% chance to crit every spell I cast. Now that my buddy has his troub high enough to raid with us, put another 7.5% on top of that. Hawtness. So with Sac geared for max Crit Skillz Joto heads into HoS. I had the troubs' buffs and synergism. some examples, the last number is crits:Allies: (01:1<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1032405 | 13236~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-24339] Sacd 157916 | 2025 | 51 necro 93071 | 1193 | 14 ranger 82441 | 1057 | 19 conjy 81330 | 1043 | 1 swash 76478 | 980 | 19 brig 73935 | 948 | 18 gaurd (mt) 72942 | 935 | 19 Allies: (01:44) 1006621 | 9679~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-30011] Sacd 163107 | 1568 | 43 wiz 97570 | 938 | 10 swash 86214 | 829 | 25 ranger 83068 | 799 | 22 bruiser 80957 | 778 | 30 brig 74084 | 712 | 18 conjy 68878 | 662 | 1 Here's the second shadowed named, A Charged Presence, I believeAllies: (02:3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2320467 | 14687~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-29790] Sacd 221928 | 1405 | 36 swash 221469 | 1402 | 81 bruiser 171850 | 1088 | 71 brig 159836 | 1012 | 42 zerker 156518 | 991 | 76 wiz 156433 | 990 | 12 necro 150316 | 951 | 19 That Fabled set with the +8% chance is all I can think about these days........P.S. I'll get some zonewide and good named encounters to throw in here soon. My parser has this horrible habit of crashing if I've been on a few hours prior to a raid, and got a few zones in its memory allready. Completely dumping all the info I had saved. I think I just need to restart it before we zone in, prob is, I never remember. I dunno. What do you guys think? <div></div>

Tanit

12-01-2006, 07:34 PM

<div></div><blockquote><hr>ailees wrote:I just have a question : I tried to go higher - not hard : cast ice nova at begining (then enough time to recast) instead of 80% or fusion at 75 or things like that - But then I discovered that generally Pally would get agro (no Harmonious link to lower my agro) would get killed and me after.Am I wrong somewhere ? or pally ? or MT ? (sorry, did not notice who were in his group, will next time)I don't understand how can IT have such a big difference with other raid memebers and stay alive.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I usually only have troub deaggro, if i'm really lucky also harmonious link. Even so, i always start a fight with a crit FS fusion + ice nova without aggro issues. I'm not sure how it is with amends, since a pally wouldnt set foot in the groups i'm in, but with a proper raid setup you shouldnt have to worry about aggro too much.<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

12-01-2006, 08:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: I went into Lyceum yesterday night. After rerolling AAs to quit the crit line and go fast casting. Intelligence : 795, amend and the golden rose. Sol Ro cape, but still did not pray at altar (totally forgot to go before raid, and still did not think about what is good or not) Zone wide we are 3, an assassin, a swashbukcler and me with 1350/90 DPS. My record on a 3 mobs groups is "only" 1666. I'm very happy with that anyway. I just have a question : I tried to go higher - not hard : cast ice nova at begining (then enough time to recast) instead of 80% or fusion at 75 or things like that - But then I discovered that generally Pally would get agro (no Harmonious link to lower my agro) would get killed and me after. Am I wrong somewhere ? or pally ? or MT ? (sorry, did not notice who were in his group, will next time) I don't understand how can IT have such a big difference with other raid memebers and stay alive. hehe still got things to learn ! .. BTW the last mob is much more dangerous than he was, he also wiped us 5 times, revenge revenge REVENGE !!!!!!! <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> it depends on the paly. there is one paly that I raid with who can put out 1-1200 dps in full offensive with over 500 int/str, and when he amends me, he is more than likely going to die many times on the raid, because i'm typically giving them anywhere from 615 dps of hate to 820 dps of hate. the MT can only typically hold 1500 dps without agro reducers. so that means paly gets agro. the raid is aware of this and generally if its not a tough mob will end up healing the paly. Now if I raid with any other paly's who put out 300-1k dps the ones who dps on the low end of the scale (and spend time healing / warding, rezing instead) are great people to amend me, as I can take full advantage of their hate transfer, without giving them agro every fight. its good to hear your dps has gone up in lyceum with the new aa build, it should get better with more practice. Just a note, when going agi build (over str) it is critical that you get 0 video lag, so make sure you turn down all your graphics to omish mode, and take off all partical effects complex shaders, drop it all down so the game looks like pong from atari. The reason is any lag you get will negate any bonuses from agi and faster casting. and generally speaking 0 lag = better dps. to illustrate this point last week when we went through labs I was getting 1-1.5s of server lag, generally I can spike 2k on singles there and 2700 on aoe targets now post EOF, but with the lag I was fighting just to clear 1500, and the first 2 aoe named (2 adds + named) I didn't even break 2k when that was the standard. Thats how bad lag affects agi build wizards, so do what ever you can to avoid it.

SacDaddy420

12-02-2006, 04:38 PM

<div></div>Ok, we went into labs tonite, mainly to get stuff for our transmuters. Being the hazy minded person I am, I forgot once again to reset my parser untill right after we zoned in. So for some reason it didnt pick up the entire zone time. But it was fast, we wanted to work on our Freethinkers strats afterwards...... buffs: trouby in group. thats it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />zone parse (around an hour): dmg| dps| crits Sacd 4564390 | 1241 | 1007 assassin 3412943 | 928 | 1965 necro 3130072 | 851 | 922 zerk 2999169 | 816 | 1522 zerk (mt) 2858232 | 777 | 1539 monk 2622508 | 713 | 1002 conj 2083010 | 566 | 159 bruis 2075836 | 565 | 1063 Slavering: Allies: (01:3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1599769 | 16324~ [Sacdaddicus-Ice Nova-16842] Sacd 156761 | 1600 | 17 necro 154427 | 1576 | 57 zerk 154370 | 1575 | 82 conjy 121935 | 1244 | 1 monk 116964 | 1194 | 41 assassin 107241 | 1094 | 52 zerk (mt) 100465 | 1025 | 50 gaurd 97457 | 994 | 10 Doom Reaver:Allies: (01:43) 1233119 | 11972~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-23355] Sacd 151315 | 1469 | 33 necro 121717 | 1182 | 44 assassin 119972 | 1165 | 58 bruis 106776 | 1037 | 46 monk 101029 | 981 | 44 zerk (mt) 82315 | 799 | 40 Uustalastus:Allies: (01:39) 789225 | 7972~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-25311] Sacd 188204 | 1901 | 34 necro 119095 | 1203 | 36 paly 65439 | 661 | 3 conjy 56131 | 567 | 0 ran 49464 | 500 | 38 conjy 46246 | 467 | 0 The Trio:Allies: (02:0<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1472847 | 11507~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-24401] Sacd 159802 | 1248 | 30 assassin 154458 | 1207 | 79 monk 130279 | 1018 | 38 necro 125047 | 977 | 36 conjy 104415 | 816 | 13 brig 94808 | 741 | 27 Corso:Allies: (03:13) 1448766 | 7507~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-25121] Sacd 246274 | 1276 | 68 rang 166647 | 863 | 46 necro 136043 | 705 | 45 gaurd 101328 | 525 | 7 conjy 96592 | 500 | 0 Euktrzkai:Allies: (00:56) 832900 | 14873~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-23838] assassin 94731 | 1692 | 31 Sacd 79857 | 1426 | 11 conjy 71010 | 1268 | 1 zerk 67543 | 1206 | 39 necro 66618 | 1190 | 11 monk 54771 | 978 | 19 Here's the first named in Freethinkers. I'm a bit below par cuz I'm still remebering what I have to do <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Allies: (05:09) 2945756 | 9533~ [Sacdaddicus-Ice Nova-20666] necro 405940 | 1314 | 83 necro 396683 | 1284 | 127 Sacd 307728 | 996 | 78 rang 269811 | 873 | 79 assassin 263943 | 854 | 147 conjy 256170 | 829 | 0 zonewide Freethinkers: (we'll have that second named down soon <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )Allies: (50:07) 37462671 | 12458~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-28737] necro 3579476 | 1190 | 1010 Sacd 3574955 | 1189 | 897 assassin 3306240 | 1100 | 1866 necro 3153943 | 1049 | 777 conjy 3025879 | 1006 | 200 rang 2394279 | 796 | 703 Take care guys...edit~~So I guess when you shorten assassin to a s s, you get the haxxored message, lol. cleaned that up<div></div>Message Edited by SacDaddy on 12-02-2006 03:41 AM

HerzenFunia

12-06-2006, 05:00 AM

Respeced today to test manaburn ( 82 aa points) so 21 in pwr line 11 points in heat line. This is screenie from MIS, 1st colossum mob with huge hp. It was first time i casted manaburn on live server. I casted manaburn 30 secs after fight started and then was converting pwr and nuking. And no, i didnt get agro. Had troub and harm link buffs and 9k pwr with warden buff. <IMG src="http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/7797/eq2000556fb3.jpg"> Those are parses from last week in Emerald Halls when I had points in heat line. From buffs - troub, synergizm, harm link. Grp of fae mobs (near the waterfall). <IMG src="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/416/eq2000550pu2.jpg"> Single fae mob. <IMG src="http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6018/eq2000551yn2.jpg"> Me, Brig, Ranger, Illus, Conj, Warlock, Swash. And the last one is named near the waterfall (dont remember her name). <IMG src="http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/2152/eq2000552iu4.jpg"> Me, warlock, ranger, ranger, brig, Illus, Swash I have more screenshots with dps but tbh I'am too lazy to post em all <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 12-06-2006 04:02 AM

Koehianna

12-06-2006, 05:06 AM

17k DPS on a 6 minute fight is amazing.Good job.<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

12-06-2006, 05:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Respeced today to test manaburn ( 82 aa points) so 21 in pwr line 11 points in heat line. This is screenie from MIS, 1st colossum mob with huge hp. It was first time i casted manaburn on live server. I casted manaburn 30 secs after fight started and then was converting pwr and nuking. And no, i didnt get agro. Had troub and harm link buffs and 9k pwr with warden buff. <IMG src="http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/7797/eq2000556fb3.jpg"> Those are parses from last week in Emerald Halls when I had points in heat line. From buffs - troub, synergizm, harm link. Grp of fae mobs (near the waterfall). <IMG src="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/416/eq2000550pu2.jpg"> Single fae mob. <IMG src="http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6018/eq2000551yn2.jpg"> Me, Brig, Ranger, Illus, Conj, Warlock, Swash. And the last one is named near the waterfall (dont remember her name). <IMG src="http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/2152/eq2000552iu4.jpg"> Me, warlock, ranger, ranger, brig, Illus, Swash I have more screenshots with dps but tbh I'am too lazy to post em all <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Message Edited by HerzenFunia on 12-06-2006 04:02 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> thank you for posting some comparisons herzen. I have to ask if you can normally break 2k on a 2 min fight, or do you think manaburning so early in that fight hurt more than it helped? Also do you know if the necro used lifeburn or undead tide? and thats a hell of a high hit for manaburn, did you happen to notice about where you were at power wise when you manaburned?

HerzenFunia

12-06-2006, 03:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: thank you for posting some comparisons herzen. I have to ask if you can normally break 2k on a 2 min fight, or do you think manaburning so early in that fight hurt more than it helped? Also do you know if the necro used lifeburn or undead tide? and thats a hell of a high hit for manaburn, did you happen to notice about where you were at power wise when you manaburned? <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Sometimes I can, sometimes I cant, tho with manaburn it's a bit easier I think. And I think it doesnt rly matter when to manaburn of u can keep in pwr, i.e. i manaburned ealier and then was converting pwr in one fight, on other fight i was nuking and converting pwr non stop to be near 90% at the to cast manaburn. There is few eno[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ers in MIS with 2 mobs in encounter which has 2.5kk hp each. Without manaburn last week i was doing 1.9k dps in 6 min fight, tho i was near oop at the end. Yesterday with manaburn I was doing 1.6-1.7k dps on those encounters, tho i was manaburning at 80% of pwr (still near 6 min fight). So on this long fight I think manaburn is less effective. For sure manaburn is best choice for very fast fights. Yeah necro used UT and LB and i was at 9k pwr I think (used manastone and vital conversion + anomalism on mt). Ah and also I used FH with manaburn.

HerzenFunia

12-07-2006, 04:05 PM

Few more screenies from Lyceum. From buffs - troub. First 2 from single droag mobs. <IMG src="http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1138/eq2000558mu0.jpg">Me. zerker. brig, swash, necro, assa, bruis <IMG src="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9203/eq2000559jl8.jpg">me, brig, conj. assa, necro. assa, ranger And this one is from Gnorbl. <IMG src="http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/931/eq2000560lb7.jpg">me, assa, brig, ranger, ranger, zerk, brig And one more parse from Chel'Drak (after EoF). Didnt have manaburn there, just some points in heat line. Troub and amends buffs (amends dropped few minutes after because of super hero tanking by paladin <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) Allies: (07:57) 4410451 | 9246,23 [Gitana-Incinerate-23462] Fomka 558377 | 1170,60 Warlock 461350 | 967,19 Ranger 368648 | 772,85 Assa 298438 | 625,66 Guard 284950 | 597,38 Necro 267065 | 559,88 Brig 262825 | 551,00 Conj 254078 | 532,66 As always parse is not accurate for some ppl in raid due to the range, but well it's my best parse on turtle so far.

IllusiveThoughts

12-07-2006, 08:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Few more screenies from Lyceum. From buffs - troub. First 2 from single droag mobs. <IMG src="http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1138/eq2000558mu0.jpg">Me. zerker. brig, swash, necro, assa, bruis <IMG src="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9203/eq2000559jl8.jpg">me, brig, conj. assa, necro. assa, ranger And this one is from Gnorbl. <IMG src="http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/931/eq2000560lb7.jpg">me, assa, brig, ranger, ranger, zerk, brig And one more parse from Chel'Drak (after EoF). Didnt have manaburn there, just some points in heat line. Troub and amends buffs (amends dropped few minutes after because of super hero tanking by paladin <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) Allies: (07:57) 4410451 | 9246,23 [Gitana-Incinerate-23462] Fomka 558377 | 1170,60 Warlock 461350 | 967,19 Ranger 368648 | 772,85 Assa 298438 | 625,66 Guard 284950 | 597,38 Necro 267065 | 559,88 Brig 262825 | 551,00 Conj 254078 | 532,66 As always parse is not accurate for some ppl in raid due to the range, but well it's my best parse on turtle so far. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> very nice parse info and thanks again for posting.

IllusiveThoughts

12-11-2006, 12:48 AM

Dextera

12-12-2006, 04:40 PM

HerzenFunia

12-13-2006, 03:44 AM

<DIV>Parse from Mutagenic Outcast. Troub buffs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (03:11) 2418982 | 12664,83 [Fomka-Ball of Lava-43882] Fomka 302558 | 1584,07 Assa 248389 | 1300,47 Assa 244481 | 1280,01 Brig 212181 | 1110,90 Necro 190603 | 997,92 Ranger 156477 | 819,25 Warlock 155768 | 815,54 Ranger 147206 | 770,71 etc</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I used manaburn at around 4k pwr at the end of the fight, then used vital conversion and wrath of burning prince + ball of lava <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

12-13-2006, 04:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Everglow wrote: From looking at these parses, I noticed that you're not using extDPS, which is actually a better indicator of DPS because it uses 1 timer for all DPS. It was good that it's sorted by dmg done, however. Just a suggestion next time ya look through parses, to use extDPS. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>It appears you haven't read the entirety of this thread. I have, previously discussed my reasoning for posting in DPS and not EXT DPS in the first or second page. I'm not trying to hide anything so I dont want you or anyone else to get that impression. I've been straight forward about posting in DPS since my first post.

TheSummoned

12-13-2006, 07:57 AM

<div></div><div></div>Just thought I'd post the Lyceum zone parse from a few days back:Allies: (24:36) 29002743 | 19649.55 [Ebajya-Incinerate-34010]Xearo 3060998 | 2073.85 Necro - crazy mofoHujul 2573647 | 1743.66 WizzyCrazedmutha 2498204 | 1692.55 Conj Elysiana 2471086 | 1674.18 WizzySvip 1879932 | 1273.67 WarlockTrishy 1770438 | 1199.48 SwashyAceeb 1711112 | 1159.29 BrigandKnowledgehungry 1698903 | 1151.02 Wizzy (yes, he needs improvement, but it's not THAT bad...)Eboz 1602366 | 1085.61 RangerUnfortunatly, I don't have the named fight parses. Oh, and berserker tanking. EDIT: Oh and manaburn + rescue = uber aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 03:59 AM

IllusiveThoughts

12-13-2006, 10:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSummoned wrote: Just thought I'd post the Lyceum zone parse from a few days back: Allies: (24:36) 29002743 | 19649.55 [Ebajya-Incinerate-34010] Xearo 3060998 | 2073.85 Necro - crazy mofo Hujul 2573647 | 1743.66 Wizzy Crazedmutha 2498204 | 1692.55 Conj Elysiana 2471086 | 1674.18 Wizzy Svip 1879932 | 1273.67 Warlock Trishy 1770438 | 1199.48 Swashy Aceeb 1711112 | 1159.29 Brigand Knowledgehungry 1698903 | 1151.02 Wizzy (yes, he needs improvement, but it's not THAT bad...) Eboz 1602366 | 1085.61 Ranger Unfortunatly, I don't have the named fight parses. Oh, and berserker tanking. EDIT: Oh and manaburn + rescue = uber aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 03:59 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> cleared the whole zone in 25 min of fighting? jesus. thanks for posting this parse keep em comming. **edit** just noticed your raid only did about 30 mil damage vs the raids when we cleared all of lyceum was about 40 mil damage, are you guys skipping mobs? **double edit** does this parse exclude all the named? since you said you dont have the named parses..? Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 12-12-2006 09:30 PMMessage Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 12-12-2006 09:32 PM

TheSummoned

12-13-2006, 11:25 PM

<div></div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> TheSummoned wrote: <div></div> <div></div>Just thought I'd post the Lyceum zone parse from a few days back:Allies: (24:36) 29002743 | 19649.55 [Ebajya-Incinerate-34010]Xearo 3060998 | 2073.85 Necro - crazy mofoHujul 2573647 | 1743.66 WizzyCrazedmutha 2498204 | 1692.55 Conj Elysiana 2471086 | 1674.18 WizzySvip 1879932 | 1273.67 WarlockTrishy 1770438 | 1199.48 SwashyAceeb 1711112 | 1159.29 BrigandKnowledgehungry 1698903 | 1151.02 Wizzy (yes, he needs improvement, but it's not THAT bad...)Eboz 1602366 | 1085.61 RangerUnfortunatly, I don't have the named fight parses. Oh, and berserker tanking.EDIT: Oh and manaburn + rescue = uber aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div> Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 03:59 AM <hr> </blockquote> cleared the whole zone in 25 min of fighting? jesus. thanks for posting this parse keep em comming. **edit** just noticed your raid only did about 30 mil damage vs the raids when we cleared all of lyceum was about 40 mil damage, are you guys skipping mobs? **double edit** does this parse exclude all the named? since you said you dont have the named parses..? Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 12-12-2006 09:30 PMMessage Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 12-12-2006 09:32 PM<hr></blockquote>I wasn't at the raid that day, so my guess is that some healers went LD? And had to abort the raid. Wanted to add this but forgot later... Here's a parse from Fable in their prime before EoF though if anyone is interested... Order is: Conjuror, Assassin, Brigand, Wizard, Ranger, Warlock, Brigand. <img src="http://i77.imagethrust.com/i/336203/eq2000032.jpg"><div></div>Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 07:29 PM

White Russi

12-13-2006, 11:39 PM

<div></div>Parse from FTH. No troub, but had synergism (got it half way through zone when 2nd illusionist logged in if I recall rightly), amends and harmonious link. MT had dirge and coercer. Treyloth eluded us as it was a late start to raid and by the time we got to him people had to log.AAs --> Agi and Wis plus 10 points into heat line (I wish I had more time to play <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )Zone ParseAllies: (38:04)33285870 DMG, 14573.50 DPSwiz2-Manaburn-52716Viko 1426.47conj 1265.68ranja2 1214.07zerk 1189.61 - MTassas 1098.38 - Went LD for a couple of fightsranja1 1095.27wiz2 992.81swash 878.15monk2 821.07monk1 692.91 - pulled mobspally 656.98 - I killed him a couple of times :SIllu2 571.16 - logged in lateIllu1 517.58coercer 486.67SK 425.05dirge 415.10ShredderAllies: (04:25)2950922 DMG, 11135.55 DPSwiz2-Manaburn-26929Viko 1279.41illu2 1118.92ranja2 1092.60conj 1075.42ranja1 884.78zerk 835.44coercer 768.88assasin 692.58illu1 551.40monk2 477.54monk1 459.08swash 424.33pally 380.21wiz2 373.23sk 263.99dirge 203.03OthysisAllies: (05:46)3977486 DMG, 11495.62 DPSwiz2-Manaburn-52716ranja2 1136.32Viko 1096.67zerk 970.33wiz2 859.14conj 824.40swash 744.93monk2 638.79monk1 599.03ranja1 562.75coercer 550.13illu2 543.62illu1 491.35dirge 449.46defiler 369.38temp1 341.87inquis 311.49pally 282.11sk 218.29temp2 149.78warden 142.61temp3 135.75inqui2 69.47Nice long group fightAllies: (02:00)2004374 DMG, 16703.12 DPSwiz2-Ice Nova-16603conj 1909.56Viko 1817.87zerk 1570.13wiz2 1461.58ranja2 1389.49ranj1 1191.26pally 1050.91assasin 1050.06illu2 910.74swash 857.17monk2 727.43monk1 628.20coercer 620.37illu1 565.98sk 462.19dirge 242.29<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

12-13-2006, 11:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> White Russian wrote: Parse from FTH. No troub, but had synergism (got it half way through zone when 2nd illusionist logged in if I recall rightly), amends and harmonious link. MT had dirge and coercer. Treyloth eluded us as it was a late start to raid and by the time we got to him people had to log. AAs --> Agi and Wis plus 10 points into heat line (I wish I had more time to play <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) Zone Parse Allies: (38:04) 33285870 DMG, 14573.50 DPS wiz2-Manaburn-52716 Viko 1426.47 conj 1265.68 ranja2 1214.07 zerk 1189.61 - MT assas 1098.38 - Went LD for a couple of fights ranja1 1095.27 wiz2 992.81 swash 878.15 monk2 821.07 monk1 692.91 - pulled mobs pally 656.98 - I killed him a couple of times :S Illu2 571.16 - logged in late Illu1 517.58 coercer 486.67 SK 425.05 dirge 415.10 Shredder Allies: (04:25) 2950922 DMG, 11135.55 DPS wiz2-Manaburn-26929 Viko 1279.41 illu2 1118.92 ranja2 1092.60 conj 1075.42 ranja1 884.78 zerk 835.44 coercer 768.88 assasin 692.58 illu1 551.40 monk2 477.54 monk1 459.08 swash 424.33 pally 380.21 wiz2 373.23 sk 263.99 dirge 203.03 Othysis Allies: (05:46) 3977486 DMG, 11495.62 DPS wiz2-Manaburn-52716 ranja2 1136.32 Viko 1096.67 zerk 970.33 wiz2 859.14 conj 824.40 swash 744.93 monk2 638.79 monk1 599.03 ranja1 562.75 coercer 550.13 illu2 543.62 illu1 491.35 dirge 449.46 defiler 369.38 temp1 341.87 inquis 311.49 pally 282.11 sk 218.29 temp2 149.78 warden 142.61 temp3 135.75 inqui2 69.47 Nice long group fight Allies: (02:00) 2004374 DMG, 16703.12 DPS wiz2-Ice Nova-16603 conj 1909.56 Viko 1817.87 zerk 1570.13 wiz2 1461.58 ranja2 1389.49 ranj1 1191.26 pally 1050.91 assasin 1050.06 illu2 910.74 swash 857.17 monk2 727.43 monk1 628.20 coercer 620.37 illu1 565.98 sk 462.19 dirge 242.29 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> sweet keep those new parses comming. I'm really interested in seeing any parses from the EOF zones, and if possible some more of the contested and tougher kos encounters.

White Russi

12-13-2006, 11:48 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>TheSummoned wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> TheSummoned wrote: <div></div> <div></div>Just thought I'd post the Lyceum zone parse from a few days back:Allies: (24:36) 29002743 | 19649.55 [Ebajya-Incinerate-34010]Xearo 3060998 | 2073.85 Necro - crazy mofoHujul 2573647 | 1743.66 WizzyCrazedmutha 2498204 | 1692.55 Conj Elysiana 2471086 | 1674.18 WizzySvip 1879932 | 1273.67 WarlockTrishy 1770438 | 1199.48 SwashyAceeb 1711112 | 1159.29 BrigandKnowledgehungry 1698903 | 1151.02 Wizzy (yes, he needs improvement, but it's not THAT bad...)Eboz 1602366 | 1085.61 RangerUnfortunatly, I don't have the named fight parses. Oh, and berserker tanking.EDIT: Oh and manaburn + rescue = uber aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div> Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 03:59 AM <hr> </blockquote> cleared the whole zone in 25 min of fighting? jesus. thanks for posting this parse keep em comming. **edit** just noticed your raid only did about 30 mil damage vs the raids when we cleared all of lyceum was about 40 mil damage, are you guys skipping mobs? **double edit** does this parse exclude all the named? since you said you dont have the named parses..? Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 12-12-2006 09:30 PMMessage Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 12-12-2006 09:32 PM<hr></blockquote>I wasn't at the raid that day, so my guess is that some healers went LD? And had to abort the raid. Wanted to add this but forgot later... Here's a parse from Fable in their prime before EoF though if anyone is interested... Order is: Conjuror, Assassin, Brigand, Wizard, Ranger, Warlock, Brigand. <div></div>Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 07:29 PM<hr></blockquote>Did the guy who did the parse only merge trash mob fights and exclude all nameds? </div>

HerzenFunia

12-14-2006, 03:36 AM

Parse from FTH (whole with all the nameds). Buffs - troub and fury. Allies: (44:15) 37096503 | 13972,32 [Fomka-Manaburn-78686] Fomka 3581856 | 1349,10 Necro 3380067 | 1273,10 Ranger 3187696 | 1200,64 Necro 3183856 | 1199,19 Assa 2758958 | 1039,16 Brig 2734841 | 1030,07 Necro 2706596 | 1019,43 On Othysis i did 1.9k dps and was 2nd on parse, necro betated me with 2,3k dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

IllusiveThoughts

12-14-2006, 03:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Parse from FTH (whole with all the nameds). Buffs - troub and fury. Allies: (44:15) 37096503 | 13972,32 [Fomka-Manaburn-78686] Fomka 3581856 | 1349,10 Necro 3380067 | 1273,10 Ranger 3187696 | 1200,64 Necro 3183856 | 1199,19 Assa 2758958 | 1039,16 Brig 2734841 | 1030,07 Necro 2706596 | 1019,43 On Othysis i did 1.9k dps and was 2nd on parse, necro betated me with 2,3k dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> awesome, thanks for posting the first whole freethinkers zone parse. Looked like you guys ripped through there in 45 min.

White Russi

12-14-2006, 03:59 AM

<blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div> Parse from FTH (whole with all the nameds). Buffs - troub and fury. Allies: (44:15) 37096503 | 13972,32 [Fomka-Manaburn-78686] Fomka 3581856 | 1349,10 Necro 3380067 | 1273,10 Ranger 3187696 | 1200,64 Necro 3183856 | 1199,19 Assa 2758958 | 1039,16 Brig 2734841 | 1030,07 Necro 2706596 | 1019,43 On Othysis i did 1.9k dps and was 2nd on parse, necro betated me with 2,3k dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>1.9k on him, nice. That was our first kill on Othysis, fight was very very messy lol! We found some idol or something afterwards which I think we should have used on the fight to make it easier... but live and learn! After treyloth that's it for the zone right? Or is there anymore after him? FTH is great for DPS though, think it will become the single target lyceum <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

HerzenFunia

12-14-2006, 05:15 PM

@Illu: Yeah was our fastest run, basically because all nameds went down 1st pull (cept Malkonis on 2nd pull). We got to Malkonis in 1h20 mins and spent 20 mins on 2 pulls, so 1h40min for whole zone which not that long tbh. I think in future this zone will be very fast, like lyceum in KoS. @White Russian: After treyloth there is one more named, zone boss Malkonis D'Morte. Actually he is easier than Treyloth when u get the strat. And this thingie u found is not for 2nd named <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I think you will found out soon.

SacDaddy420

12-16-2006, 03:17 PM

Hello Wizzies. damage| extdps| crits Zone Parse For HoS:Allies: (01:22:17) 58576990 | 11865~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-31092] Sacd 6302729 | 1277 | 1567 assassin 5313350 | 1076 | 2064 lock 5201388 | 1054 | 829 necro 5003818 | 1014 | 853 swash 4136169 | 838 | 911 conjy 4003045 | 811 | 30 brig 3762678 | 762 | 898 rang 3719710 | 753 | 788 And Labs:Allies: (57:50) 41164404 | 11863~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-30134] Sacd 4266807 | 1230 | 1158 assassin 3905735 | 1126 | 1827 necro 3741376 | 1078 | 1375 zerker 3483748 | 1004 | 162 lock 2887525 | 832 | 525 brig 2787488 | 803 | 822 rang 2498077 | 720 | 546 In Labs i had synergism, and a troub thats kinda wack In HoS I had amends, synergism, and my real trouby back<div></div>

3C HAVOK

12-17-2006, 02:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSummoned wrote: Just thought I'd post the Lyceum zone parse from a few days back: Allies: (24:36) 29002743 | 19649.55 [Ebajya-Incinerate-34010] Xearo 3060998 | 2073.85 Necro - crazy mofo Hujul 2573647 | 1743.66 Wizzy Crazedmutha 2498204 | 1692.55 Conj Elysiana 2471086 | 1674.18 Wizzy Svip 1879932 | 1273.67 Warlock Trishy 1770438 | 1199.48 Swashy Aceeb 1711112 | 1159.29 Brigand Knowledgehungry 1698903 | 1151.02 Wizzy (yes, he needs improvement, but it's not THAT bad...) Eboz 1602366 | 1085.61 Ranger Unfortunatly, I don't have the named fight parses. Oh, and berserker tanking. EDIT: Oh and manaburn + rescue = uber aggro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Message Edited by TheSummoned on 12-13-2006 03:59 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Hehe, You think Xearo is crazy on that neco you should raid with him on his assasin! [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] that guys was leet. Oh and who did Crazedmutha pay to alter that DPS post to get him on the list, everyone knows hes a noob and could never parse like that <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Chel'Drak fight Allies: (09:10) 4740677 | 8619.41 [Kena-Ball of Lava-51663] Kena 569296 | 1035.08 Freeble 558845 | 1016.08 (Lock) Rocksteady 447628 | 813.87 (Brig) Nioxia 432177 | 785.78 Johe 401670 | 730.31 Bumpy 314049 | 571.00 Ill get some up of FTh next time we go in .

HerzenFunia

12-17-2006, 02:38 PM

Would be rly nice if you put class after each name in your parse or instead of names, as you like.

3C HAVOK

12-18-2006, 04:20 PM

i did for the top 3 Me(wiz) then the Lock then the Brig, the rest were lame and didnt matter <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

3C HAVOK

12-18-2006, 04:41 PM

White Russi

12-19-2006, 05:48 AM

<div></div>FTH Parse. Still not complete zone <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Hopefully Treyloth and zone boss will fall after chrimbo <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Had troub and synergism, as did conjy.Zone wideAllies: (29:11)32233658 DMG, 18408.71 DPSwiz2-Manaburn-36029conj 1912.86Viko 1778.76ranj2 1535.58assas 1435.10zerk 1319.01brig 1261.10wiz2 1161.11ranj1 1155.01conj2 1121.89illu 1008.97swash 927.72monk1 802.48ShredderAllies: (03:19)3149264 DMG, 15825.45 DPSViko-Ice Nova-17588conj 1638.39ranj2 1498.83Viko 1497.09zerk 1306.32illu 1296.60wiz2 1073.31ranj1 1007.62assas 958.79conj2 912.87coercer 791.83monk1 665.65swash 650.63OthysisAllies: (03:56)3162465 DMG, 13400.28 DPSwiz2-Manaburn-36029conj 1617.64Viko 1377.56ranj2 1360.28assas 1134.60conj2 1010.68wiz2 957.94zerk 898.58ranj1 842.53brig 800.83monk1 797.00swash 662.22Group mobsAllies: (01:35)1996741 DMG, 21018.33 DPSwiz2-Fusion-25050conj 2510.80Viko 2417.08zrk 1542.75ranj2 1541.51assas 1498.26conj2 1371.42illu 1350.90wiz2 1281.53brig 1216.99ranj1 1117.01swash 928.66Allies: (01:32)2020522 DMG, 21962.20 DPSwiz2-Fusion-22386conj1 2364.15Viko 2127.08zerk 1998.89wiz2 1910.86ranj2 1708.50assas 1521.34brig 1520.54conj2 1351.97illu 1194.38ranj1 1145.66<div></div>

chrisrump

12-19-2006, 08:32 PM

<DIV>Still working on getting hang of posting stuff here so sorry if its a bit ugly.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mana Brun test in Labs</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pardas</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:37) 745971 | 20161.38 [Ranlet-Manaburn-69191] Ranlet 165673 | 4477.65 - Me Scoundril 66982 | 1810.32 -Brig Gutty 56786 | 1534.76 - Ranger Kogaa 56579 | 1529.16- Bruser Uxeed 44772 | 1210.05- [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] Nyave 44308 | 1197.51- warlock</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Xiterrax</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (01:21) 607937 | 7505.40 [Ranlet-Manaburn-67664] Ranlet 136075 | 1679.94 "Me" Rynna 121310 | 1497.65 "Con" Krazzy 60450 | 746.30 "Necro" Nyave 53904 | 665.48 "War" Minas 34471 | 425.57 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vkirtz</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:46) 1051345 | 22855.33 [Ranlet-Manaburn-61658] Nyave 106916 | 2324.26 "War" Scoundril 103423 | 2248.33 "Brig" Ranlet 96750 | 2103.26 "Me" Rynna 90436 | 1966.00 "Con" Amiaji 87929 | 1911.50 "forgot" Krazzy 86830 | 1887.61 "Nec"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Alzid</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:55) 1068708 | 19431.05 [Ranlet-Manaburn-67430] Krazzy 151081 | 2746.93 "Nec" Ranlet 101164 | 1839.35 "Me" Rynna 94739 | 1722.53 "Con" Brewten 80879 | 1470.53 "Forgot" Gutty 78924 | 1434.98 "Ranger" My zone wide is gimped not showing right as my log split in middle of the run. But so far Mana Brun has been fun. It is a matter of timeing and haveing enouff power reg to make the bang work.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

HerzenFunia

12-19-2006, 08:54 PM

One more FTH parse (whole zone). Troub+fury+harm link. Allies: (34:20) 33067772 | 15990,22 [Fomka-Manaburn-65918] Fomka 3049915 | 1474,81 Ranger 2928786 | 1416,24 Necro 2850814 | 1378,54 Brig 2686473 | 1299,07 Assa 2518239 | 1217,72 Ranger 2478153 | 1198,33 Swash 2458460 | 1188,81 etc Othysis fight. Kinda blows <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Finally i outdpsed necro on this named. Was usually doing around 1.9k dps on this named and necro around 2.2-2.3. <IMG src="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/6702/eq2000580xs7.jpg"> Me, Necro, Swash, Ranger, Necro, Brig, Assa.

HerzenFunia

12-21-2006, 10:54 PM

Bugged Gnorbl fight after LU30. I was lucky lol. I honestly hope SoE will fix this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] asap. Allies: (00:19) 1770269 | 93172,05 [Fomka-Focused Debhilitating Eye Beam-661031] Fomka 1362610 | 71716,31 Necro 52837 | 2780,90 Ranger 52815 | 2779,74 Brig 43704 | 2300,21 Ranger 40079 | 2109,42

IllusiveThoughts

12-22-2006, 12:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Bugged Gnorbl fight after LU30. I was lucky lol. I honestly hope SoE will fix this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] asap. Allies: (00:19) 1770269 | 93172,05 [Fomka-Focused Debhilitating Eye Beam-661031] Fomka 1362610 | 71716,31 Necro 52837 | 2780,90 Ranger 52815 | 2779,74 Brig 43704 | 2300,21 Ranger 40079 | 2109,42 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> rolf i bet no one will top that parse for a long time, jebus.

SacDaddy420

12-22-2006, 12:56 AM

OMG. He is "The One". <div></div>

3C HAVOK

12-22-2006, 01:04 AM

DT Zone parse I died early on mem wipe with tarinax so my dps was low on him Allies: (47:04) 43873612 | 15535.98 [Johe-Manaburn-62681] Nivla 4386383 | 1553.25 (Assasin) Raina 3851036 | 1363.68(Assasin) Kena 3347717 | 1185.45 (ME) Bumpy 3119425 | 1104.61 (Bruiser) Nioxia 3074384 | 1088.66 (Brig) Sylth 2992898 | 1059.81(Necro) Johe 2870840 | 1016.59 (Wiz) Disterbed 2846950 | 1008.13 (Zerker) Lyc Zone parse Allies: (30:51) 31188796 | 16849.70 [Johe-Fusion-22916] Nivla 2532307 | 1368.08 (Assasin) Freeble 2488504 | 1344.41(Lock) Johe 2399862 | 1296.52 (Wiz) Kena 2291042 | 1237.73(ME) Sylth 2245761 | 1213.27(Necro) Rocksteady 2187378 | 1181.73(Brig) Thundersmasher 1924389 | 1039.65(Monk) Bumpy 1857089 | 1003.29(Bruiser) My buffs are usualy a Troub and fury in group ( i dont get vim though as im the FNG in the guild <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) I run at about 820-850 int.

White Russi

12-22-2006, 01:21 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div> Bugged Gnorbl fight after LU30. I was lucky lol. I honestly hope SoE will fix this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] asap. Allies: (00:19) 1770269 | 93172,05 [Fomka-Focused Debhilitating Eye Beam-661031] Fomka 1362610 | 71716,31 Necro 52837 | 2780,90 Ranger 52815 | 2779,74 Brig 43704 | 2300,21 Ranger 40079 | 2109,42 <hr></blockquote>Did you get aggro? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />and from the sounds of recent events, a 600k wizard hit is pretty low now...</div>

Koehianna

12-22-2006, 09:10 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div> Bugged Gnorbl fight after LU30. I was lucky lol. I honestly hope SoE will fix this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] asap. Allies: (00:19) 1770269 | 93172,05 [Fomka-Focused Debhilitating Eye Beam-661031] Fomka 1362610 | 71716,31 Necro 52837 | 2780,90 Ranger 52815 | 2779,74 Brig 43704 | 2300,21 Ranger 40079 | 2109,42 <hr></blockquote>Same thing happened today on Blackburrow, it was posted in the 60-69 channel. Wizard hit for 600k+ with that same spell.</div>

HerzenFunia

12-22-2006, 04:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> White Russian wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Bugged Gnorbl fight after LU30. I was lucky lol. I honestly hope SoE will fix this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] asap. Allies: (00:19) 1770269 | 93172,05 [Fomka-Focused Debhilitating Eye Beam-661031] Fomka 1362610 | 71716,31 Necro 52837 | 2780,90 Ranger 52815 | 2779,74 Brig 43704 | 2300,21 Ranger 40079 | 2109,42 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Did you get aggro? <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and from the sounds of recent events, a 600k wizard hit is pretty low now... </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> That was double hit and mob just died <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

SacDaddy420

12-22-2006, 10:31 PM

Tore through HoS last night. I really wanted to see how I'd stack up against our necro who's just been feckin it up lately with his lifeburn.Seriously, he blows people away on encounter parses when he busts that out, and now , that the raid force has gotton used to it, he even gets heals <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> It's an awesome ability and he uses it alot now. Which is one reason this zone parse was particularly important to me. One side note....Big ups to IT who explained to me in the wiz channel how to Import data back into ACT after it crashes. I was freakin out. Buffs I had were ammends, synergism , and my awesome troub buddy. (Helhiem FTW) dammage | extDPS | critsAllies: (01:28:22) 61177307 | 11539~ [Flayhorn-Vortex of Desecration-246248] Sacd 7680369 | 1449 | 1653 supernecro 7307606 | 1378 | 1151 swash 5835079 | 1101 | 923 bruiser 4294494 | 810 | 1584 brig 3815669 | 720 | 792 zerker (MT) 3754644 | 708 | 33 bruiser 3715005 | 701 | 1093 that's our MT with that highest hit btw.......I mean he's awesome......but [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]<div></div>

IllusiveThoughts

12-23-2006, 01:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SacDaddy wrote: Tore through HoS last night. I really wanted to see how I'd stack up against our necro who's just been feckin it up lately with his lifeburn. Seriously, he blows people away on encounter parses when he busts that out, and now , that the raid force has gotton used to it, he even gets heals <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> It's an awesome ability and he uses it alot now. Which is one reason this zone parse was particularly important to me. One side note....Big ups to IT who explained to me in the wiz channel how to Import data back into ACT after it crashes. I was freakin out. Buffs I had were ammends, synergism , and my awesome troub buddy. (Helhiem FTW) dammage | extDPS | crits Allies: (01:28:22) 61177307 | 11539~ [Flayhorn-Vortex of Desecration-246248] Sacd 7680369 | 1449 | 1653 supernecro 7307606 | 1378 | 1151 swash 5835079 | 1101 | 923 bruiser 4294494 | 810 | 1584 brig 3815669 | 720 | 792 zerker (MT) 3754644 | 708 | 33 bruiser 3715005 | 701 | 1093 that's our MT with that highest hit btw.......I mean he's awesome......but [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>nice work staying ahead of the necro on the zone parse. hopefully others will start chiming in with zone parses to compare against necro's with lifeburn.

Tanit

12-23-2006, 04:57 AM

HerzenFunia

12-23-2006, 05:14 AM

This is our last HoS run. I was using manaburn only on nameds and missed few encounters coz was rly bored that night, well I was slacking <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Troub and fury buffs. Both necromancers were using lifeburn but one of them went afk for some time and is low on parser. (54:53) 57585865 | 17487.36 Assa 5303432 | 1610.52 Brig 4829712 | 1466.66 Fomka 4808426 | 1460.20 Assa 4676178 | 1420.04 Necro 4420723 | 1342.46

QQ-Fatman

12-27-2006, 11:21 PM

labs (i only post top 6, and the numbers are ext dps) I have 100 aa (manaburn + fireline.) I had fury + troubador buffs. MT had assassin + dirge for hate. My guild isnt a hardcore raiding guild, we only have a few ppl doing good dps...so our raid dps isnt very good <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> zonewide: Allies: (56:16) 40276389 | 11930.21 [ME-Manaburn-92318] assassin 5812089 | 1721.59 <- best assassin i've seen ME 5206396 | 1542.18 ranger 4975091 | 1473.66 brigand 1 3416275 | 1011.93 <- went LD for like 15 mins, or he can usually do 1200+ brigand 2 2477988 | 734.00 wizard 2 1943715 | 575.74 <- an alt doomwright vakrizt Allies: (01:16) 1108522 | 14585.82 [assassin-Decapitate-25407] assassin 177933 | 2341.22 necro 171702 | 2259.24 ME 115263 | 1516.62 <- didnt get manaburn out before named died <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ranger 106825 | 1405.59 brigand 1 85251 | 1121.72 brigand 2 72701 | 956.59 pardas predd Allies: (01:3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 1166127 | 11899.25 [ME-Manaburn-88050] assassin 217251 | 2216.85 ME 167643 | 1710.64 brigand 2 93868 | 957.84 brigand 1 90443 | 922.89 wizard 2 77906 | 794.96 sk 68609 | 700.09 the slavering alzid Allies: (01:53) 1626768 | 14396.18 [ME-Manaburn-81587] assassin 245721 | 2174.52 ranger 215716 | 1908.99 ME 211488 | 1871.58 brigand 2 134288 | 1188.39 swash 102368 | 905.91 MT guard 99959 | 884.59 doom trio Allies: (01:53) 1216466 | 10765.19 [ME-Fusion-14591] assassin 201068 | 1779.36 ME 149760 | 1325.31 <- again missed manaburn <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ranger 148258 | 1312.02 brigand 1 125132 | 1107.36 brigand 2 94592 | 837.10 sk 85785 | 759.16 the uncaged alzid Allies: (01:53) 1508673 | 13351.09 [ME-Manaburn-79319] ME 225408 | 1994.76 ranger 192841 | 1706.56 assassin 166521 | 1473.64 brigand 1 133386 | 1180.41 brigand 2 122218 | 1081.58 wizard 2 111571 | 987.35 uustalastus xiterrax Allies: (01:19) 831357 | 10523.51 [ME-Manaburn-75210] ME 212252 | 2686.73 necro 142959 | 1809.61 ranger 72838 | 922.00 wizard 71586 | 906.15 pally 45398 | 574.66 assassin 38052 | 481.67 doomsworn zatrakh Allies: (02:11) 1380895 | 10541.18 [ME-Fusion-23615] assassin 190563 | 1454.68 ME 177511 | 1355.05 brigand 1 161363 | 1231.78 necro 136815 | 1044.39 ranger 118090 | 901.45 brigand 2 77503 | 591.63 the corsolander Allies: (02:50) 1441251 | 8477.95 [ME-Fusion-22191] ranger 259402 | 1525.89 assassin 216709 | 1274.76 wizard 2 139322 | 819.54 ME 139028 | 817.81 <- died when inc <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> brigand 1 127844 | 752.02 illusionist 66380 | 390.47 euktrzkai amdaatk Allies: (00:46) 844377 | 18356.02 [ME-Manaburn-78794] ME 149461 | 3249.15 <- i love short fights <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> assassin 114969 | 2499.33 brigand 1 96158 | 2090.39 ranger 95583 | 2077.89 swash 50480 | 1097.39 brigand 2 47522 | 1033.09 lord vyemm Allies: (02:02) 1649638 | 13521.62 [ME-Manaburn-81893] ME 237682 | 1948.21 assassin 233394 | 1913.07 brigand 1 229748 | 1883.18 ranger 218980 | 1794.92 brigand 2 116747 | 956.94 swash 111356 | 912.75 alzid prime Allies: (01:01) 1176191 | 19281.82 [ME-Manaburn-92318] ME 181058 | 2968.16 <- highest manaburn so far, used 9466 mana lol assassin 156872 | 2571.67 brigand 1 116425 | 1908.61 ranger 113479 | 1860.31 necro 97158 | 1592.75 wizard 2 70943 | 1163.00 My avg dps isnt very good - manaburn can only help me to get high numbers in some fights, but my dps vs. trash mobs is way lower than our assassin. Maybe ill need to rework on my casting orders ... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Message Edited by QQFatman on 12-28-2006 02:23 AM