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GMPOTU

12-28-2006, 08:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> drajev wrote: <DIV>Harmonious link, synergism, mana buff... and the troub ofc - though as a raid leader you're supposed to know that fury's Ferine Vim is more suited to you than warden's mana buff eh?</DIV> <DIV>It's a total waste imho to occupy a conc slot for your harmonious link for the coercer rather than give haste to a scout... </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Sounds like somebody is jealous =P. Oh by the way I have yet to see a parse from you in the past few weeks of doing anywhere close to 900dps on Matron. (ps. I haven't posted a parse either but I will soon) Fomka, I'm guessing that your troubador went with quellios and used the God Ability that gives like 50% power back to the group. It definitely helps on that fight and probably is how you bounced back up to 40-50% when Matron was sitting at 4%. QQFatman, don't feel bad about the assassin man, he has his perfect raid setup almost. Anytime an assassin or swashy is in the MT group with a dirge etc you really cannot compare yourself because if they know what they're doing they'll beat you 90% of the time. Our swashy is in the MT group and averages 1900-2200 zone parses. Before his inspiration AA got dropped he was up around 2400+ zone parse. As for comparing DPS vs the necro Lifeburn --- Are you guys telling your necro counter-parts to go all out for testing purposes? If not you should let them know so that your data isn't somewhat skewed incase they are slacking a little. Finally I think we should agree upon a parsing standard for parse capturing so our comparisons are a little more accurate. On person who captures 4s after battle, 2s after battle and 10s after battle are going to have different parses. I personally use 4-5s after battle myself if I remember correctly. Either way I think we should set a standard for this thread and have everyone stick to that standard. As for manaburn, yesterday was my 1st day using it. It's a fun spell, but I kind of think the fire line is a little more versatile. Hitting for 94,000 was fun but constantly trying to regain all my power was more of a hassle and my dps with fireline is roughly the same on named encounters right now as it is with manaburn (maybe because I'm not used to MB yet) the 40s encounters it shoots up to the 3-4k range =) but in terms of overall raid effectiveness and putting the raid before myself I think Fire and Ice might be better than MB and Ice. My ideal choice would be 24pts fire, 21pts MB, 5pts Ice, but iceshape + frigid gift is just too good for my group in my opinion. Message Edited by GMPOTU on 12-28-2006 07:31 AM

IllusiveThoughts

12-28-2006, 08:21 PM

White Russi

12-28-2006, 08:49 PM

AFAIK my ACT is set at 2secs. Can't really leave it much longer as I won't have time to parse to the raid before the tank pulls the next mob. I don't really get much trouble with encounters splitting on ACT either with this delay time as I think you would if you started ending combat sooner than that.

simpwrx02

12-28-2006, 09:02 PM

HerzenFunia

12-28-2006, 10:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> drajev wrote: <DIV>Harmonious link, synergism, mana buff... and the troub ofc - though as a raid leader you're supposed to know that fury's Ferine Vim is more suited to you than warden's mana buff eh?</DIV> <DIV>It's a total waste imho to occupy a conc slot for your harmonious link for the coercer rather than give haste to a scout...</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Right seems you know a lot of about this game and about other guilds. Let me clear something for you. We dont have playing illusionist atm and we had illusionist the only time I was putting him in my grp was when troub wasnt online, so synergism and especially this cast/recast time reduction buff is something like a dream for me. Do you rly think I dont know that fury is better for mages than warden? If you do, then sry, but you're dumb. Again you might dont know, but warden was the best option at that raid to put in mage grp. Haste scouts from mt grp? Nice. I have harm link only half of time, when coerc want to put it on me, other time brigands has it. On matron I'am asking for harm link because i'am usually top dps there (if i dont get ported very far, which usually not happen). And seems you totally dont understand that I posted this parse not to show that I [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] did 900dps there and I'am leet, but because it was the first time I used manaburn on hard encounter with the result of that parse. <HR> Fomka, I'm guessing that your troubador went with quellios and used the God Ability that gives like 50% power back to the group. It definitely helps on that fight and probably is how you bounced back up to 40-50% when Matron was sitting at 4%. <HR> Hm I havent thought about that, mb you're right. That explains how I got so much pwr at the end of the fight. Tho while dpsing I havent noticed that, was too busy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> PS To that anon poster - this thread is not *ecock* thread, but thread where ppl sharing their parsers from different zones and if someone doing better ppl can slways ask for some tips etc or just look for the numbers they should try to reach themselvs. Dont try to derail this thread pls.

GMPOTU

12-29-2006, 07:20 AM

Chel'Drak Zone wide (capture set at 4s) Allies: (08:44) 7853197 | 14987.02 [ME-Manaburn-97604] Necro 981008 | 1872.15 | 12% Swashy 865170 | 1651.09 | 11% Wizard 768193 | 1466.02 | 9% Ranger 696910 | 1329.98 | 8% ME 677037 | 1292.06 | 8% Assassin 530459 | 1012.33 | 6% Illusionist 481358 | 918.62 | 6% Coercer 442266 | 844.02 | 5% Guardian 382513 | 729.99 | 4% Slam 345227 | 658.83 | 4% Message Edited by GMPOTU on 12-28-2006 06:45 PM

3C HAVOK

12-29-2006, 10:36 AM

Labs using the All in act to export (so includes any wipes or slacking and the like) I end encounters at 2 seconds, and only post people who are over 1k dps. My buffs Vim and Troub at about 920 int for the raid and afk on like 4 trash fights. I used no god abilitys on the fight at all to get a clean parse of the zone and i dont have mana burn. MT was an SK BTW <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (44:57) 38903046 | 14424.56 [Kena-Fusion-25644] Nivla 4206383 | 1559.65 (Assasian) Freeble 3716386 | 1377.97 (Warlock) Kena 3549632 | 1316.14 (ME) Kriki 3473152 | 1287.78 (Swash) Rocksteady 3228701 | 1197.15 (Brig) Disterbed 2764949 | 1025.19 (Zerker) Neural 2712856 | 1005.88 (Coercer) Oh i do agree with keeping your epeens out of this thread. If you want to flame there are boards for that. I like to use this as a way to make myself better in raids, by looking at the numbers other people can do and working on getting my numbers high. Message Edited by 3C HAVOK on 12-28-2006 09:56 PM

3C HAVOK

12-30-2006, 09:42 AM

Zone wide of Lyc i had Vim for half the raid Troub buffs and Syn, the other wiz had time compression for half the raid and vim the other half and uses mana burn Allies: (42:42) 31879705 | 12443.29 [Johe-Manaburn-78939] Wizard 1 3656135 | 1427.06 (Wiz) Assasin 3412425 | 1331.94 (Assasin) Kena 3332855 | 1300.88 (Me) Brig 2721577 | 1062.29 (Brig) We were short just about a full group and were low on healers to lots of mezzing that messes up the parse for this zone, Not enough AOE's

IllusiveThoughts

12-30-2006, 10:58 AM

IllusiveThoughts

12-30-2006, 02:59 PM

GMPOTU

12-30-2006, 10:56 PM

<DIV>Nice parses Illusive.</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

12-31-2006, 02:07 PM

<DIV>Did FTH first time today on live with the guild I normally raid with, here's the parse</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>buffs: mt had coercer</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>vim + amends + link</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>zone (only first named and all the trash up to him--including the ones behind the exploded walls)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (38:15) 29732173 | 12955 [Illu-Manaburn-53720] Illu 3806454 | 1913 me Numb 2458371 | 1360 ranger Beom 2289452 | 1528 (left after first named) necro Ozzi 2044809 | 1032 wiz 2 Haun 1933023 | 1262 (left af1ter first named) ranger 2 Brig 1830801 | 924 brigand Vinh 1619813 | 857 monk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First named</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (04:39) 2867006 | 10276 [Allestair-Incinerate-25935] Illu 382697 | 1407 me Beom 339193 | 1270 necro Haun 302567 | 1137 ranger Alle 298614 | 1094 conj Numb 286321 | 1097 ranger 2 Ozzi 240737 | 908 wiz 2 Brig 219359 | 815 brigand Sand 203213 | 755 coercer Dain 190080 | 684 MT </DIV> <DIV>4 mob x3 epics (was having hate gain issues, my paly died so i had to back off after 2 mobs died)</DIV> <DIV>Allies: (03:00) 2004478 | 11136 [Illu-Ice Nova-18789] Illu 341247 | 2133 me Alle 300351 | 1716 conj Numb 196435 | 1251 ranger Brig 151443 | 901 brigand Ozzi 150813 | 967 wiz 2 Dain 126205 | 721 MT</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>one of the entrance mobs + manaburn = dead mob</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Allies: (00:39) 611418 | 15677 [Illu-Manaburn-53720] Illu 121743 | 3581 Ozzi 47860 | 1496 Vinh 42626 | 1292 Haun 40444 | 1395 Brig 34575 | 988 Numb 33754 | 993 Kyle 32662 | 933 </DIV>

HerzenFunia

12-31-2006, 08:59 PM

Parse from Mistmoore Inner Sanctum. FIrst parse including all trash and nameds up to tactican, means no trash on the way to mayong and some mayong pulls (we didnt kill him yet). Our necro went ld after second named so after 2nd named we were clearing with 23 in raid. Also necro topped parser on second named with 3k dps, right after him was me with 2k dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> For buffs - no troub on first named (zoned in right after we killed 1st named) and got vim only after 3rd named. Allies: (51:57) 54383530 | 17447,39 [Fomka-Manaburn-89012] Fomka 5185729 | 1663,69 Ranger 4933378 | 1582,73 Ranger 4173920 | 1339,08 Brig 4130551 | 1325,17 Conj 4118428 | 1321,28 Warlock 3817494 | 1224,73 Brig 3766292 | 1208,31 etc And this is parse for the whole zone with trash to mayong and some mayong pulls. Allies: (01:32:29) 88420852 | 15934,56 [Fomka-Manaburn-89012] Ranger 8152397 | 1469,17 Fomka 8081618 | 1456,41 Brig 6962186 | 1254,67 Ranger 6854195 | 1235,21 Conj 6751972 | 1216,79 Warlock 6147961 | 1107,94 Brig 5955747 | 1073,30 etc PS @Illu - awesome zonewide in labs, a lot of respecr from me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> PSPS Happy new year guys!

iceriven2

12-31-2006, 10:25 PM

Had a guildie last night beofre lycuem raid ask about sorcerer AA's. He had the faster casting line, Agi i think it is. What he wanted to know is catalyst better. I mentioned that ppl here on the baords showed that in the right hands can be just as good as catalyst, but after asking me what i had he changed. MY AA's for sorcerer line are Str 4,4,4,5,1, Wis 4,8,4,8. He did the same thing as me and the results was him doubling his dps in raids. He went from doing 500 dps to 1k-1.2k. Not trying to post that Agi line sucks....even though it totally reads that i am...what i am saying is that Again this post helped out another wizzie and i am sure he is greatful <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> keep up the good work guys.

Car

01-05-2007, 09:35 PM

Here is our last Lyceum run. Its doesnt include the Last priest dude because he kept bugging out on us and having like 3 stances up during the fight. So after like 3 shots we said [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] it and left, cause it wasnt worth the time! First number is EXTDPS and 2nd is DPS Allies: (22:13) 30672740 | 23010.31 [Haze-Manaburn-89348] Haze | 2428 | 2812 Warl | 2146 | 2516 Swash | 2040 | 2266 Assa | 1890 | 2137 Ranger | 1847 | 2148 Necro | 1390 | 1622 Conj | 1374 | 1654 Swash | 1241 | 1380 Brig | 1200 | 1552 The group i had for that entire zone was Troub + Illusionist with Synergism on me. I got a lot of power procing gear, + Honor + gloves + double regen = ownage Manaburning. I never had to use my Canni spells during the zone. In all the named fights, i would nuke non stop and still be at full power toward the end for a big manaburn. And here is our Last FTH run. This first parse is without the last 2 named. The last named im pretty occupied during that fight doing other things and not really DPSing the named much, which ruines my zone parse! Allies: (20:4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 27469013 | 22010.43 [Haze-Manaburn-84458] Necro | 2051 | 2385 Haze | 1909 | 2217 Warl | 1840 | 2099 Ranger | 1823 | 2040 Swah | 1730 | 1892 Assa | 1637 | 1786 Conj | 1444 | 1686 Brig | 1370 | 1532 Swash | 1287 | 1419 Illu | 988 | 1157 And here is the entire FTH run. Allies: (31:15) 36187931 | 19300.23 [Haze-Manaburn-84458] Necro | 1775 | 1966 Ranger | 1704 | 1851 Haze | 1680 | 1858 Warl | 1560 | 1709 Swash | 1495 | 1594 Assa | 1430 | 1520 Conj | 1280 | 1437 Brig | 1189 | 1288 Swash | 1152 | 1235 Haze - Vagabonds Message Edited by Carew on 01-05-2007 08:36 AM

IllusiveThoughts

01-06-2007, 02:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Carew wrote: Here is our last Lyceum run. Its doesnt include the Last priest dude because he kept bugging out on us and having like 3 stances up during the fight. So after like 3 shots we said [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] it and left, cause it wasnt worth the time! First number is EXTDPS and 2nd is DPS Allies: (22:13) 30672740 | 23010.31 [Haze-Manaburn-89348] Haze | 2428 | 2812 Warl | 2146 | 2516 Swash | 2040 | 2266 Assa | 1890 | 2137 Ranger | 1847 | 2148 Necro | 1390 | 1622 Conj | 1374 | 1654 Swash | 1241 | 1380 Brig | 1200 | 1552 The group i had for that entire zone was Troub + Illusionist with Synergism on me. I got a lot of power procing gear, + Honor + gloves + double regen = ownage Manaburning. I never had to use my Canni spells during the zone. In all the named fights, i would nuke non stop and still be at full power toward the end for a big manaburn. And here is our Last FTH run. This first parse is without the last 2 named. The last named im pretty occupied during that fight doing other things and not really DPSing the named much, which ruines my zone parse! Allies: (20:4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 27469013 | 22010.43 [Haze-Manaburn-84458] Necro | 2051 | 2385 Haze | 1909 | 2217 Warl | 1840 | 2099 Ranger | 1823 | 2040 Swah | 1730 | 1892 Assa | 1637 | 1786 Conj | 1444 | 1686 Brig | 1370 | 1532 Swash | 1287 | 1419 Illu | 988 | 1157 And here is the entire FTH run. Allies: (31:15) 36187931 | 19300.23 [Haze-Manaburn-84458] Necro | 1775 | 1966 Ranger | 1704 | 1851 Haze | 1680 | 1858 Warl | 1560 | 1709 Swash | 1495 | 1594 Assa | 1430 | 1520 Conj | 1280 | 1437 Brig | 1189 | 1288 Swash | 1152 | 1235 Haze - Vagabonds Message Edited by Carew on 01-05-2007 08:36 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> crazy lyecum parse bud!

SacDaddy420

01-06-2007, 03:14 PM

This will be the longest thread ever made by the time we are done with it. Here's a lil somethin more: Buffs ~ troub, synergism MT~ dirge, assassin dammage | extDPS | crits Halls of SeeingAllies: (01:15:23) 56737261 | 12544~ [Grimolfr-Vortex of Desecration-228913] Sacd 6587011 | 1456 | 1402 lock 5509118 | 1218 | 892 assassin 5351901 | 1183 | 3030 ranja 4812109 | 1064 | 1451 brig 4078085 | 902 | 848 assassin 3877293 | 857 | 787 DeathtollAllies: (01:16:1<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 48914347 | 10685~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-30345] Sacd 5916288 | 1292 | 1243 necro 4814565 | 1052 | 1058 lock 4718766 | 1031 | 812 assassin 4593641 | 1003 | 2271 ranja 4231813 | 924 | 1904 brig 4068639 | 889 | 1569 It was kinda a bad nite in DT for us <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but we pulled through. <div></div>

White Russi

01-06-2007, 04:03 PM

<div></div>I think Haze is some kind of sophisticated DPS robot sent back through time....Seriously though, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] hot parse!Did FTH after another raid and only had time for first named and all trash to second. Had a couple of pulls on him but people were tired, short of people still after the holidays etc etc.. Had troub and synergism. Dirge and Coercer in MT group.FTHAllies: (29:51)28368107 DMG, 15839.26 DPSAssas-Decapitate-22539Conj 2011.23Viko 1944.33Assas 1358.76Ranja 1167.39Monk 1163.29Conj 1085.52Zerk 1081.76Illu 1056.92Swash 1008.46Haze - What kind of buffs did your swash/ranger/assasin have for your FTH run?<div></div>

HomeChicken

01-06-2007, 10:22 PM

im kinda shocked i havent seen any rangers on these parses really rocking it not sure what the deal is but in my guild one of our rangers is prolly the hardest guy to beat on the parse, always doin like 2500+ /shrugs still kinda on the fence about manaburn, but i think ima try it out and see for myself heh

HerzenFunia

01-07-2007, 05:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HomeChicken wrote: im kinda shocked i havent seen any rangers on these parses really rocking it not sure what the deal is but in my guild one of our rangers is prolly the hardest guy to beat on the parse, always doin like 2500+ /shrugs still kinda on the fence about manaburn, but i think ima try it out and see for myself heh <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>In my guild rangers are always around too, with necro <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Tho not with that big numbers, well u can see that in parses I posted.

Car

01-07-2007, 08:33 AM

<DIV>Manaburn is definitly worth it with the right group setup and a lot of power procing items. If you can double stack regen in your group and have your power procing aggro transfer on your MT, you should have enough inc power to not even use conversions. With my Wand, Mo legs, Nest robe, Honor of pantrilla, and Gloves i never had to use my conversions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not really 100% sure what group our assassin/ranger/swashie was that night, cause we always switch them around depending on what we got. But normally our assassin is with our illusionist and swashie placed with a dirge. Ranger gets thrown around but is mostly with a corcerer.</DIV>

Falcogen

01-08-2007, 12:32 AM

These threads are turning into a bit of a joke imo, at first they were useful to aspiring dps'ers trying to help people with casting orders etc But lemme tell you something about parses With a Troub just a troub you should be able to do 2k zonewides in most zones And yes with your group consisting of a templar, illusionist, paladin, fury and dirge you can be the most uber bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] wizard in the world. All of that so 1 person can top a parse is totally inefficient, talk of having 2 mana regens in one group unless its a tank group is [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. People have mentioned that this thread isnt about measuring e-peens or whatever but every parse shown on here of late is exactly that.

SacDaddy420

01-08-2007, 01:10 AM

<div></div>I hear ya Falco, but I still think this thread is viable for those new wizards that would like to see exactly what they should be able to -come close to- doin after the time invested in their toons like we have spent. Also, I can't speak for everyone else, but I know I like to see what all you other guys are doin. I'll admit a tad bit of jealousy when I see ya'lls raid forces doin 20K average zonewides ( I'll be the first to admit our raids are, well, somewhat lacking in that department), and wondering how I would fit in that kind of situation. But it's cool. We all are somewhat competitive, just as I am competitive in every game I play. It's fun.And now that I mention fun, that's one thing in EQ that I feel is just as important as DPS...........for example.....<img src="http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/Sacdaddy/box.jpg"> rockin <a target="_blank" href="http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/funnypic1810.htm">funniest [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] thing I've seen in a long time</a><div></div>

Car

01-08-2007, 02:31 AM

rofl @ falco, isnt the point of this thread to post parses? And whats your problem with having 2 regen in an insane dps group? Why does double regen have to be stacked in the mt group all the time? thats [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. Only fights you should need double regen is for the hate on aggro wipe mobs and stuff like that, or even manadraining fights. Our tank doesnt have any problem holding aggro without double hate. And whats wrong with this group Falco. Troub,Wiz,Warlock,Illusionist,Assassin,Fury.

White Russi

01-08-2007, 02:49 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>ShaneFalco wrote:<div></div> These threads are turning into a bit of a joke imo, at first they were useful to aspiring dps'ers trying to help people with casting orders etc But lemme tell you something about parses With a Troub just a troub you should be able to do 2k zonewides in most zones And yes with your group consisting of a templar, illusionist, paladin, fury and dirge you can be the most uber bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] wizard in the world. All of that so 1 person can top a parse is totally inefficient, talk of having 2 mana regens in one group unless its a tank group is [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. People have mentioned that this thread isnt about measuring e-peens or whatever but every parse shown on here of late is exactly that. <hr></blockquote>I agree with you that double regen in one group at the expense of other groups is a bad idea, but if it's there then it seems better that those who always crunch through their power quickly get to have it. And yes it goes without saying that raid DPS > individiual DPS. That's why I was asking Haze what his swashy, ranger and assasin were getting buff wise so I could see if its a group set up issue or a slacking issue <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />What I have seen with all these parses is a rise in the average DPS being put out by the wizards that post here. It's because the bar is constantly being raised and that can only be a good thing otherwise we'd all be pumping out 1.2k zonewide and thinking we were the best mother [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing wizard on the planet. Sure it will probably cap out but until then I say keep posting and let everyone know what the class is capable of.</div>

Falcogen

01-08-2007, 03:32 PM

<blockquote><hr>Carew wrote: rofl @ falco, isnt the point of this thread to post parses? And whats your problem with having 2 regen in an insane dps group? Why does double regen have to be stacked in the mt group all the time? thats [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]. Only fights you should need double regen is for the hate on aggro wipe mobs and stuff like that, or even manadraining fights. Our tank doesnt have any problem holding aggro without double hate. And whats wrong with this group Falco. Troub,Wiz,Warlock,Illusionist,Assassin,Fury. <hr></blockquote> I don't have a problem with it at all, I'm just merely stating that recently parses posted here are kinda skewed as people are posting with synergism, time compression, troub (obviously), vim, harmonious link, amends,spell haste, etc etc hell maybe even burning prince ro's fury who knows If i was an aspiring raiding wizard it maybe disheartening to see these parses as a new wizard to a raid certainly wouldn't get a group built around them. So posting parses and stating that these buffs should be yours clearly isn't true. Yes they would be lovely but it isnt standard as every raid setup is different. I know of wizards in other guilds that are lucky to even get a troub which on its own adds 200-300 dps zonewide. Typical example in my dps group i normally get vim and the other wizard doesnt that in itself accounts for around 50 dps. I think what people would probably like to know is how much extra all these extra buffs they get do dps wise. I merely commented as i received a couple of cross servers tells asking about my zonewides in comparison to some posted here with time compression. I personally wont ever get that buff am i bitter no, i couldn't care less but to a wizard it probably adds in the region of 400-500 dps on a zonewide. Anyways thats my rant.

yobotra

01-08-2007, 03:46 PM

<DIV>Personally I don't care if someone does better DPS than I do because there always is someone who can do more. I read these forums to learn and unfortunatelly numbers are only way to know if somethings are better than others. I know how painfull it can be to raid without agro reduces because ive been there but i do get some satisfaction breaking my own records in situations like that too. Nowadays im so lucky to have plenty of agro reduce and have almost all masters too so can break magical 2k so maybe im wrong at this but would say beating your own records is best thing I get out from all of this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And thanks to all fellow wizards that keep trying out new things. To point out few im amazed on persons like Illu and Ailees keep giving to this community and sharing info they know. </DIV>Message Edited by yobotra75 on 01-08-2007 12:49 PM

slippery

01-08-2007, 05:24 PM

Meh, I hate Manaburn as far as zonewide parses go. I feel that it could seriously inflate your dps numbers in that if you are using it on trash how much of it is overkill? *shrug* <div></div>

Falcogen

01-08-2007, 06:05 PM

I think i should just clarify that my comments aren't meant to discredit any parses or peoples efforts on this thread merely to indicate what a signifcant factor some buffs can be in respect to dps. Just as an example if you take a base figure for lyceum. These are totally estimated so not 100% factual *1600 without a troub *1800 with a troub (200 on average probably more with the set bp and AA picks) *1850-1900 with Fury vim (50-100) *2300-2400 with illusionist Time Compression (400-500) *2500 - 2600 with illusionist synergism (100-200) If you want to get the most information of how much dps you are doing, my suggestion would be to fine tune this kind of thread so you can post parses sticky the thread under specific buff sets. You will then probably get a better idea of where you are at. That was my point **** Numbers are totally made up off the top of my head

yobotra

01-08-2007, 06:38 PM

Fair enough Falco misuderstood you first time <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

simpwrx02

01-08-2007, 08:37 PM

So to the person complaining about e-member size here is a parse of my guild's first time in DT one of more recent runs through DT is on page 11 the lists are damage l dps l # of crits Allies: (01:01:00) 27278994 | 7453.28 [Me-Ice Nova-18465] Me 2533999 | 692.35 | 410 Assassin 2306166 | 630.10 | 475 Ranger 2177381 | 594.91 | 814 Necro 1963505 | 536.48 | 301 Monk 1877350 | 512.94 | 583 ill 1858417 | 507.76 | 556 Bruiser 1760599 | 481.04 | 386 Coercer 1711931 | 467.74 | 510 Zerker 1676788 | 458.14 | 720 Guard 1626636 | 444.44 | 391 We were just happy as hell to even be in DT, this was in late August we killed Fitz and wiped a few time to the Drake and called it a night with 8 extremely exciting wipes. How ever reading posts in here helped me up my dps greatly, gear helpsed out some, but just the ideas people put out that i read and took to my "DPS' drawing board helped, incase you dont want to find my other post my dps is up to 1290ish for DT. And for the last recorded DT run before EoF so that an actual gain in dps isnt just contributed to EOF changes, once again the topic helped me in my dps greatly format also damage l DPS l # of crits I droped a lot in crits due to going from str/wis to agi/wis Take this for what you will. and have a good day Allies: (01:28:46) 39747802 | 7462.98 [Me-Fusion-16862] Me 5353639 | 1005.19 | 204 Conj 4187983 | 786.33 | 680 ill 3680007 | 690.95 | 1042 Coerc 3429090 | 643.84 | 715 Troub 2722302 | 511.13 | 624 Monk 2559786 | 480.62 | 2024 ill #2 2441526 | 458.42 | 463 Bruiser 2296671 | 431.22 | 523

ailees

01-08-2007, 09:08 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>ShaneFalco wrote:<div></div> Just as an example if you take a base figure for lyceum. These are totally estimated so not 100% factual *1600 without a troub...**** Numbers are totally made up off the top of my head <hr></blockquote>waoo ! then you should also tell what's your base/raid intelligence, My raid intelligence is very often less than 700 (but not far from)And without ANY protection I am totally unable to do that. I'm around 1200/1300. If I try to go better, I die. Not always, but enough to lower my DPS <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

Falcogen

01-08-2007, 09:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> simpwrx wrote: So to the person complaining about e-member size here is a parse of my guild's first time in DT one of more recent runs through DT is on page 11 the lists are damage l dps l # of crits We were just happy as hell to even be in DT, this was in late August we killed Fitz and wiped a few time to the Drake and called it a night with 8 extremely exciting wipes. How ever reading posts in here helped me up my dps greatly, gear helpsed out some, but just the ideas people put out that i read and took to my "DPS' drawing board helped, incase you dont want to find my other post my dps is up to 1290ish for DT. And for the last recorded DT run before EoF so that an actual gain in dps isnt just contributed to EOF changes, once again the topic helped me in my dps greatly format also damage l DPS l # of crits. I droped a lot in crits due to going from str/wis to agi/wis Take this for what you will. and have a good day <HR> Well thats great that this thread helped you, as i previously stated it is useful. What i'm trying to say and people clearly are missing, is that your group make up pretty much can double your dps.</BLOCKQUOTE>

Falcogen

01-08-2007, 09:31 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote: <DIV>waoo ! then you should also tell what's your base/raid intelligence, My raid intelligence is very often less than 700 (but not far from) And without ANY protection I am totally unable to do that. I'm around 1200/1300. If I try to go better, I die. Not always, but enough to lower my DPS <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Understood i'm always around 800 (900 with vim) int and have a zerker tanking that zone in full aggro gear such as hurricane forged cuirass cheldrak greaves (probably underworld legplates) and windforged bracers all items that proc taunts. As i previously stated those figures were off the top of my head but i dont think they are way off Added underworld legplates cos he's nuts Message Edited by ShaneFalco on 01-08-2007 08:54 AM

simpwrx02

01-08-2007, 09:57 PM

I agree group makeup can dramatically up your dps which is why as of late a lot of the parses are containing buffs on them as well as group make ups. Many of the new guilds to raiding really have no idea how to set up anything other than the MT group since that is almost a cookie cutter form if you have the peeps required, but maybe only the wiz in theguild looks are the boards and his reading this may cause him to ask some questions concerning the raid makeup and that in turn may up raid dps. Another big factor is the amount of debuffers you have, my dps is below most on these boards, i think that is mostly since most of the time my guild raids we have neither a brig or a swashy both have great debuffs and some of the raids that are up in the 20k raid wide dps have more than 1 brig is my guess and a few swashys. Also reading the parses on here gives me a goal to shot for and makes me try every single fight instead of just going on auto pilot with top 5 in guild dps. And as every one stats on here dps is so derived from casting order and knowing how to play, i entered my current guild about 3 weeks before my first trip to DT and i was in the top3 dps the very first raid i attended with only mastercrafted/instance leg gear and mostly adept3 spell ( this was my priority with every level i got in t7). Here is the oldest raid that i could find, 2rd time did labs, this was the first time i got put into a group with a troub, only raid gear i had was dracomancer gloves. Allies: (01:12:31) 34157380 | 7850.47 [Me-Ice Nova-19318] Me 3424896 | 787.15 Conj 3360184 | 772.28 Bruiser 2282350 | 524.56 Monk 2260576 | 519.55 Swash 2195960 | 504.70 Lock 2182291 | 501.56 ill 1955796 | 449.50 Coercer 1894034 | 435.31

Tornadicc

01-08-2007, 11:10 PM

I had a really good parse the other night on the 2nd named in freethinkers. I have 79 AA's-AGI/WIS build and I am only going down the fire and power line right now. I don't have manaburn because I went across from the fire line and skipped the anomalism AA. Anyway, I was in a group with all casters and and one troub and Fury buffed. I can't wait to see what I can do with manaburn. Unfortunately, in this fight I didn't have my blessings. Othysis Muravian Duration Extdps Damage 2:56 20006.4 3521120 Name Extdps Assassin 2140.84 Necro 1955.14 Warlock 1942.4 Me 1897.42 Ranger 1730.02 Warlock 1576.61 Brigand 1172.08 Fury 1143.42Message Edited by Tornadicc on 01-08-2007 12:21 PM

IllusiveThoughts

01-11-2007, 12:33 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ShaneFalco wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> Well thats great that this thread helped you, as i previously stated it is useful. What i'm trying to say and people clearly are missing, is that your group make up pretty much can double your dps.</BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> agreed. at the start of the thread if anyone is still reading page 1, I initially started the thread stating what buffs I had, even went into more detail than just troub + vim ect. If a new wizard happened accross this thread they could go through each of the parses and see the buffs that were on me and my comparative dps. even listing aa buffs from other classes (battle leadership from paly fearless morale from paly ect) what I have seen is probably the wizards who post frequently(myself included) to just state the class buffing them not listing the buffs. Personally I dont see a problem with it as the earlier posts state what buffs do and what they are called ect. for most fights my int post eof is 733, with fury + vim i get to 903, and about 9k power pool. I have not yet had the pleasure of getting time compression on a raid, I did have fun playing with it in beta, and duoing most of the eof zones with my bud illusionist. When the raid set up allows, we usually have the illusionist grouped with myself and a troubador, mainly for the 160ish int buff and 70 sub/dis temp buff, and power regen ect, dps skyrockets just from the extra regen and short term buffs, also the illusionist loves frigid gift, so his dps goes up as well, its a win/win situation for him. Once he gets time compression, it will be very helpful to have him paired with me and we'll see how that affects my dps. overall I like to see higher and higher dps posts, i'm happy that people can look at this thread and go wow, wizards AREN'T a broken class, we ARE a dps class, and they can see plain as day that we can parse with the best of them. I just hope more people continue to contribute to the thread, and not get scared away because they are doing 600 dps, there will be no brown nosing of people posting lower dps, I'm here to help.Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 01-10-2007 11:35 AM

Zyphius

01-11-2007, 12:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: overall I like to see higher and higher dps posts, i'm happy that people can look at this thread and go wow, wizards AREN'T a broken class, we ARE a dps class, and they can see plain as day that we can parse with the best of them. I just hope more people continue to contribute to the thread, and not get scared away because they are doing 600 dps, there will be no brown nosing of people posting lower dps, I'm here to help. Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 01-10-2007 11:35 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> You know I usually agree with you, but I must disagree with this statement. We are broken, and the reason why is because we are the only DPS class that has to rely SO MUCH on other classes to be able to shine. I am not in a raiding guild, all my raids are done through the Alliance. So, that being said, we don't always have the "best class makeup", yet we do a really good job in my opinion. However, since we don't always have the best support classes for me, I find myself struggling to keep up with our assassin and ranger 99.9% of the time. Many times they double my DPS. I am almost always in the top 5, usually in the top 3 or 4 (provided I don't die or something), but I RARELY EVER hit number 1 if those two are with us, simply because they can do 2k+ DPS, pretty much, any time they want; I have to have special circumstances, or the "perfect group" for it.

3C HAVOK

01-11-2007, 10:21 AM

Lagar

01-15-2007, 12:22 AM

Hall of SeeingTroub, Vim, Synergismtotal damage / ext DPS / DPS parse set to stop after 4 sec of no combatAllies: (01:14:22) 61239243 | 13724.62 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-79814]Marty 6121582 | 1372 | 1633Wiz 2 6107834 | 1369 | 1606Swash 4886376 | 1095 | 1206Ranger 4572437 | 1025 | 1118Assassin 4507260 | 1010 | 1231Illusion 4460009 | 1000 | 1119Allies: (03:10) 2367965 | 12462.97 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-36835] A Shadowy PresenceMarty 219028 | 1153 | 1217Wiz 2 208854 | 1099 | 1207Assassin 205719 | 1083 | 1143Ranger 199554 | 1050 | 1090Swash 171151 | 901 | 925Assassin 169362 | 891 | 946Allies: (04:19) 3165791 | 12223.13 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-54938] The OverlordMarty 346545 | 1338 | 1444Swash 332234 | 1283 | 1298Illusion 315132 | 1217 | 1271Wiz 2 283869 | 1096 | 1159Assassin 263454 | 1017 | 1062Assassin 251228 | 970 | 1147Allies: (02:3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2391037 | 15133.15 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-45997] A Charged Presence (Necro logged in at this point)Marty 248456 | 1573 | 1624Wiz 2 233746 | 1479 | 1601Assassin 216953 | 1373 | 1427Swash 212534 | 1345 | 1362Necro 211955 | 1341 | 1376Ranger 199258 | 1261 | 1294Allies: (02:16) 2341892 | 17219.79 [Marty-Ball of Lava-50970] Pain (Conj logged in at this point)Marty 273116 | 2008 | 2168Wiz 2 220638 | 1622 | 1659Necro 213301 | 1568 | 1616Conj 196843 | 1447 | 1514Assassin 178240 | 1311 | 1361Swash 175365 | 1289 | 1329Allies: (02:04) 2395306 | 19316.98 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-70361] SufferingWiz 2 276282 | 2228 | 2424Necro 255003 | 2056 | 2143Marty 198989 | 1605 | 1761Conj 188220 | 1518 | 1623Assassin 182876 | 1475 | 1590Assassin 172015 | 1387 | 1483Allies: (03:0<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 3339297 | 17762.22 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-39144] WarderMarty 298802 | 1589 | 1727Swash 279107 | 1485 | 1542Assassin 249403 | 1327 | 1378Necro 244666 | 1301 | 1539Conj 239859 | 1276 | 1318Ranger 237013 | 1261 | 1317Allies: (03:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2857248 | 13736.77 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-67994] Bloodbeast (Brig logged in at this point..no Brig till then)Wiz 2 275322 | 1324 | 1419Marty 255799 | 1230 | 1383Swash 238495 | 1147 | 1147Assassin 213271 | 1025 | 1056Assassin 209393 | 1007 | 1170Brig 208053 | 1000 | 1020Allies: (03:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 3119659 | 14998.36 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-55064] VenekorMarty 320437 | 1541 | 1643Wiz 2 287713 | 1383 | 1514Brig 270711 | 1301 | 1381Necro 265648 | 1277 | 1348Swash262942 | 1264 | 1315Illusion 219515 | 1055 | 1109

IllusiveThoughts

01-15-2007, 05:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lagar wrote: Hall of Seeing Troub, Vim, Synergism total damage / ext DPS / DPS parse set to stop after 4 sec of no combat Allies: (01:14:22) 61239243 | 13724.62 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-79814] Marty 6121582 | 1372 | 1633 Wiz 2 6107834 | 1369 | 1606 Swash 4886376 | 1095 | 1206 Ranger 4572437 | 1025 | 1118 Assassin 4507260 | 1010 | 1231 Illusion 4460009 | 1000 | 1119 Allies: (03:10) 2367965 | 12462.97 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-36835] A Shadowy Presence Marty 219028 | 1153 | 1217 Wiz 2 208854 | 1099 | 1207 Assassin 205719 | 1083 | 1143 Ranger 199554 | 1050 | 1090 Swash 171151 | 901 | 925 Assassin 169362 | 891 | 946 Allies: (04:19) 3165791 | 12223.13 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-54938] The Overlord Marty 346545 | 1338 | 1444 Swash 332234 | 1283 | 1298 Illusion 315132 | 1217 | 1271 Wiz 2 283869 | 1096 | 1159 Assassin 263454 | 1017 | 1062 Assassin 251228 | 970 | 1147 Allies: (02:3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2391037 | 15133.15 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-45997] A Charged Presence (Necro logged in at this point) Marty 248456 | 1573 | 1624 Wiz 2 233746 | 1479 | 1601 Assassin 216953 | 1373 | 1427 Swash 212534 | 1345 | 1362 Necro 211955 | 1341 | 1376 Ranger 199258 | 1261 | 1294 Allies: (02:16) 2341892 | 17219.79 [Marty-Ball of Lava-50970] Pain (Conj logged in at this point) Marty 273116 | 2008 | 2168 Wiz 2 220638 | 1622 | 1659 Necro 213301 | 1568 | 1616 Conj 196843 | 1447 | 1514 Assassin 178240 | 1311 | 1361 Swash 175365 | 1289 | 1329 Allies: (02:04) 2395306 | 19316.98 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-70361] Suffering Wiz 2 276282 | 2228 | 2424 Necro 255003 | 2056 | 2143 Marty 198989 | 1605 | 1761 Conj 188220 | 1518 | 1623 Assassin 182876 | 1475 | 1590 Assassin 172015 | 1387 | 1483 Allies: (03:0<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 3339297 | 17762.22 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-39144] Warder Marty 298802 | 1589 | 1727 Swash 279107 | 1485 | 1542 Assassin 249403 | 1327 | 1378 Necro 244666 | 1301 | 1539 Conj 239859 | 1276 | 1318 Ranger 237013 | 1261 | 1317 Allies: (03:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2857248 | 13736.77 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-67994] Bloodbeast (Brig logged in at this point..no Brig till then) Wiz 2 275322 | 1324 | 1419 Marty 255799 | 1230 | 1383 Swash 238495 | 1147 | 1147 Assassin 213271 | 1025 | 1056 Assassin 209393 | 1007 | 1170 Brig 208053 | 1000 | 1020 Allies: (03:2<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 3119659 | 14998.36 [Wiz 2-Manaburn-55064] Venekor Marty 320437 | 1541 | 1643 Wiz 2 287713 | 1383 | 1514 Brig 270711 | 1301 | 1381 Necro 265648 | 1277 | 1348 Swash262942 | 1264 | 1315 Illusion 219515 | 1055 | 1109 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> nice work bud, thanks for posting HOS keep those parses comming!

3C HAVOK

01-17-2007, 10:06 AM

Message Edited by 3C HAVOK on 01-16-2007 09:11 PM

3C HAVOK

01-17-2007, 10:06 AM

wow, tripple post FTL! Message Edited by 3C HAVOK on 01-16-2007 09:12 PM

3C HAVOK

01-17-2007, 10:11 AM

HerzenFunia

01-17-2007, 02:38 PM

<DIV>Our last MiS run, tho still no Mayong <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs - troub, vim. Grp - me, necro, conj, troub, fury, warlock. Parse for all mobs in zones bar Mayong.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Me, necro, ranger, swash, assa, brig, conj.</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7343/eq2000617eo1.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> 3C HAVOK wrote: MMIS i had Troub and Fury group buffs for all of the raid. I had Vim and TC up to the first named Zone wide all but Mayong Allies: (58:57) 54880542 | 15516.13 [Kena-Manaburn-70706] Necro 5508156 | 1557.30 Kena 5244475 | 1482.75 Bruiser 4227832 | 1195.32 Ranger 4169592 | 1178.85 Illu 3567572 | 1008.64 Swash 3407590 | 963.41 Zerk 3301325 | 933.37 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Hm you zonewide dmg is 1.3kk less than our, have you avoided some colossum mobs? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

White Russi

01-18-2007, 12:09 AM

<div><blockquote><hr>HerzenFunia wrote:<div></div> <div>Our last MiS run, tho still no Mayong <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs - troub, vim. Grp - me, necro, conj, troub, fury, warlock. Parse for all mobs in zones bar Mayong.</div> <div> </div> <div>Me, necro, ranger, swash, assa, brig, conj.</div> <div><img src="http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7343/eq2000617eo1.jpg"></div> <div> </div> <div> <blockquote> <hr> 3C HAVOK wrote: <div></div> MMIS i had Troub and Fury group buffs for all of the raid. I had Vim and TC up to the first named Zone wide all but Mayong Allies: (58:57) 54880542 | 15516.13 [Kena-Manaburn-70706]Necro 5508156 | 1557.30Kena 5244475 | 1482.75Bruiser 4227832 | 1195.32Ranger 4169592 | 1178.85Illu 3567572 | 1008.64Swash 3407590 | 963.41Zerk 3301325 | 933.37 <hr> </blockquote>Hm you zonewide dmg is 1.3kk less than our, have you avoided some colossum mobs? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote>If he had would you blame him? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

3C HAVOK

01-18-2007, 12:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Hm you zonewide dmg is 1.3kk less than our, have you avoided some colossum mobs? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Possibly, we pulled one set out of mayongs room and killed nothing else in there, and we pull one set out of TA room and fight him in the "circle of trust" so not sure if we are avoiding any in his room. Perhaps the diffrence is the mobs in mayongs room as we left the Chap, Blood drinkers, Courts and gargoles as we had a late start and didnt get any pulls on mayong. That would be the only thing i could think of. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] if there is a way to avoid the 3 million hp A-Holes please tell <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

IllusiveThoughts

01-19-2007, 12:11 AM

<DIV></DIV> <DIV> I figured it would be a good idea to post my current AA path, along with my spell list and quality so that other wizards who have been following my posts can compare the data I have provided from parses a little bit better. Also going to include solo int raid buffed int, solo buffed disruption/subjugation and raid buffed. Also solo buffed flowing thought and raid buffed flowing thought and adornments. **edit** going to include hp and power**edit** Now obviously I swap gear around quite a bit so the numbes all vary depending on resists and fight duration, but this is with my general raid gear set up. Please understand this is not meant to be a [Removed for Content] post, or a bragging post, just making sure all my char info is laid out there for people to see to compare. AA Path: Sorceror tree: Agi 4/4/4/8/1 Wis 4/5/4/8 Wizard tree: power line 5/5/3/34/1, (fortify elements / vital conversion / anomalism / vitalic cropping / cardinal intromission / manaburn) cold line 5/5, (rending + ice nova) fire line 3/3/1/3/0 (sunstrike / irradiate / firestorm / firey convultions-/ soon to be ball of lava) Self buffed Int: 740 Raid buffed int: 909-930 (fury + vim) Self buffed hp: 4800 Raid buffed hp: 5100-6k (fury + inquis or templar or being in mt group with paly mt) Self buffed pw: 7950-8150 Raid buffed pw: 8700-9200 (aspect of the hawk at the low end or vim at the top end) Self buffed disruption / subjugation: 388 / 358 (with normal raid gear on) Raid buffed disruption / subjugation: 445 / 415 (with troub + warlock) Self buffed FT: 44 (22 from items 22 from x’havis gown) Raid buffed FT: 100 (56 from troub) Adornments: Head = 100 pw Chest = 6 to all stats Shoulders = + 100 health (or claymore shoulders for the extra disruption) Cuffs = none Hands = +25 spell dmg Legs = +14 sta Feet = +14 sta Neck = +25 spell dmg Ear 1 = +14 int Ear 2 = +14 int Ring 1 = +70 pw Ring 2 = +70 pw Wrist 1 = +14 int Wrist 2 = +14 int Ranged = +30 to heat (will be changed to 1% spell crit when i can afford it) Spell list and Quality: It’s been a while since I’ve listed them, let me see if I can do this list without being in game from memory: DOF ancient spells: numbing cold m1 forge of ro adp3 surging tempest m1 Direct damage nukes/dots Protoferno m2 Ice nova m1 Ball ov lava m1 Irradiate m1 Incapacitate m1 Ice shield m1 Rending icicles m1 Firey convultions adp3 Sunstrike adp3 Aoe nukes/dots Glacial winds m1 Electrifying flash m1 Firestorm M1 Fusion M1 Misc Frigid gift m1 Surge of flames m1 Phoenixblade M1 T5 Singularity m1 (been waiting for anomalism m1 for a while but use singularity m1 for the 4% hate transfer instead of an adp3 anomalism at 3%) Ceace M1 Shackle m1 Ring of ice m1 Vital conversion M1 Cardinal intromission m1 Vitalic cropping M1 Fortify elements m1 Hand of the tyrant M1 Hope this helps for comparison with all the extra character info, maybe other wizards can chime in too who post parses here so we can start to get a better understanding of where they are at and how much dps they are doing. This list is current except the addition of the fear imbued fingerguards and the two +25 adornments for the last 2-3 weeks of parse postings.</DIV> Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 01-18-2007 11:16 AM Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 01-18-2007 11:22 AMMessage Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 01-18-2007 11:23 AM

Zyphius

01-19-2007, 02:23 AM

Now I know why I can't ever get anywhere near your numbers... I don't feel so bad about mine now. :smileywink:

IllusiveThoughts

01-19-2007, 04:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> putergod wrote: Now I know why I can't ever get anywhere near your numbers... I don't feel so bad about mine now. :smileywink: <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Cool that was the intention, I dont want people thinking that the parses I post are what a basic wizard can do and get discouraged, if they dont get close (or hell if they do then please DO post a parse so I can know i need to improve <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) Having done this list I can see that my wizard isn't doing too shabby. btw mind pointing out what part(s) are different from your character breakdown?

Magn3tar

01-19-2007, 06:18 AM

<DIV>Long, slow night at work so I finally read through this entire post and learned quite a bit. I don't have any parses yet, just now starting to learn ACT. Just joined a pretty die-hard raiding guild so I think I'll be improving my DPS quite a bit in a very short amount of time..but here is my Setup...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>65 AA's thus far.</DIV> <DIV>Agi line:4/4/4/8/1</DIV> <DIV>Wisdom line: 4/4/3 like to put increasing base damage up to 5 points while keeping my fast casting in the Agi line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wiz Tree.. I have all points in Power line thus far so I can get Manaburn, just got manaburn today so I'll find out what it does to my dps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Spells..</DIV> <DIV>Full mastered except for:Sunstrike, Fiery Convulsions, Anomalism, Frigid Gift, Ice Nova, Fortify Elements, and Incapacitate, all of these spells are Ad3.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Havn't invested in any adornments yet, but as I build up my DKP i'll be adorning the new fables I get, no sense in adorning legendaries.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I typically parse from 1-1.2k, and the veteran wizard of the guild usually parses 1.6-1.7k dps. He is full fabled/full adornments, he does not have manaburn however</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I plan to max my cold line of wizard tree spells next, so if my companion wizard (we are usually grouped) does the same thing we can perhaps even keep frigid gift up for a majority of any fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Excited about using manaburn as most fights last less than 20 seconds (trash)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Will post some parses in a little while, enjoyed the thread, KEEP IT UP!</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

01-19-2007, 11:31 AM

Here's a parse of ALL the raids i've done since EOF release that I saved, zones include labs, lyceum, hos, EH, FTH, Talendor. Total dmg | DPS | EXTDPS | DMG % | CRIT HITS Allies: (07:56:29) 324811203 | 11361 [Illu-Manaburn-86537] Illu 45548348 | 1859 | 1593 | 14% | 4903 Here's a screenie of my damage <IMG src="http://www.controlledinertia.com/Portals/0/397/EOF%20total%20raid%20parsings.bmp">

Zyphius

01-19-2007, 06:48 PM

<DIV>This is going to be from memory, so may not be entirely accurate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Gear:</DIV> <DIV>Dracomancer Hat, Shoulders, and Pants.</DIV> <DIV>Reilc Chest</DIV> <DIV>Thurma summin boots (from HoF)</DIV> <DIV>Ro Cloak</DIV> <DIV>Black silk gloves (have relic, but the stats suck compared to the treasured I wear)</DIV> <DIV>Some treasured belt with 30intel... have a T6 fabled, but it has much lower intel.</DIV> <DIV>Mastercrafted cuffs</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fabled neck (not MoA), ring, and wrist. Legendary/Treasured on the rest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Masters:</DIV> <DIV>Fusion</DIV> <DIV>Surging Tempest</DIV> <DIV>Glacial Winds</DIV> <DIV>Protoferno</DIV> <DIV>Ball of Lava</DIV> <DIV>Rendering Icicles</DIV> <DIV>Fortify Elements</DIV> <DIV>Vital Conversion</DIV> <DIV>Ring of Ice</DIV> <DIV>Surge Of Flames</DIV> <DIV>Corona</DIV> <DIV>Cease</DIV> <DIV>Pheonix Blade</DIV> <DIV>Hand of the Tyrant</DIV> <DIV>Ice Sheild M2</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The rest are adept 3</DIV> <DIV>Also, that list could be missing a couple, and one or two may be mistaken for another.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Self buffed power is ~7300 Raid buffed power and HP varies greatly since we are "non standard" and my groups change a lot.</DIV> <DIV>Self buffed intel without potion = 699</DIV> <DIV>Raid./group buffed intel doesn't change often. I rarely have a fury.</DIV> <DIV>I occasionally have a troub. I sometimes have a pally. I almost never have a chanter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For example, my last raid was me, pally, swashy, zerker, inquis, and sk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Occasionally, depending on raid turnout, I might get some good wizzie support classes, but its very rare. I do get amends more often than not since I am the top aggro magnent in our Alliance. But sometimes we either don't have a pally, or he/she is needed in another group. Those cases I usually get "something", like a gaurd's moderate, but amends is arguably the best.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Forget AA line...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorcerer:</DIV> <DIV>Agi 4,4,4,8</DIV> <DIV>Wis 4,5,4,8,1</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wiz:</DIV> <DIV>Only cold line so far with:</DIV> <DIV>5, 3, 3, 4 (RI, IN, EF, ST)</DIV>Message Edited by putergod on 01-19-2007 08:50 AM

HerzenFunia

01-24-2007, 05:45 PM

Finally we got Mayong down and I have parse from it. Tho no zonewide parse <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs for both wizards are same - troub, fury (vim on both). Group - warlock (without +proc chance AA), wiz, wiz, necro, fury, troub. As you can both me and other wizard are topping the parse. We both went for manaburn line and fire lines. Also good pwr drain from Mayong duaring fight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (08:22) 6205960 | 12362,47 [Fomka-Manaburn-27419] Fomka 743649 | 1481,37 Wizard 704488 | 1403,36 Ranger 682006 | 1358,58 Brig 404456 | 805,69 Ranger 389895 | 776,68 Assassin 372537 | 742,11 Warlock 361886 | 720,89

IllusiveThoughts

01-24-2007, 10:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Finally we got Mayong down and I have parse from it. Tho no zonewide parse <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs for both wizards are same - troub, fury (vim on both). Group - warlock (without +proc chance AA), wiz, wiz, necro, fury, troub. As you can both me and other wizard are topping the parse. We both went for manaburn line and fire lines. Also good pwr drain from Mayong duaring fight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (08:22) 6205960 | 12362,47 [Fomka-Manaburn-27419] Fomka 743649 | 1481,37 Wizard 704488 | 1403,36 Ranger 682006 | 1358,58 Brig 404456 | 805,69 Ranger 389895 | 776,68 Assassin 372537 | 742,11 Warlock 361886 | 720,89 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>wowzers, almost 1500 dps for 8min 30sec of fighting, a mob with a power drain, sick man sick!

Tornadicc

01-25-2007, 01:05 AM

<DIV>One question. I noticed Fomka took the Sagacity AA (with the 12% power) and Illu took the 12% Spellshifting AA (with the 12% reuse). I'm wondering which one would be more beneficial? An I noticed on Fomka's parse that he outparsed the second wiz in his guild. Which I am assuming is Olympuz. So Olympuz has the same setup as Illu. So if Fomka and Olympuz are at the same skill level, on average I wonder who parses higher on longer battles, on shorter battles and on average? Hoepfully, that made some kind of sense.</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts

01-25-2007, 02:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tornadicc wrote: <DIV>One question. I noticed Fomka took the Sagacity AA (with the 12% power) and Illu took the 12% Spellshifting AA (with the 12% reuse). I'm wondering which one would be more beneficial? An I noticed on Fomka's parse that he outparsed the second wiz in his guild. Which I am assuming is Olympuz. So Olympuz has the same setup as Illu. So if Fomka and Olympuz are at the same skill level, on average I wonder who parses higher on longer battles, on shorter battles and on average? Hoepfully, that made some kind of sense.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> on longer fights sagicity imho will have a greater boon to dps than fights that are not mana intensive. on short fights (like 30s-2 min) sagicity would only serve to increase the damage dealt by manaburn, every 3rd or 4th fight, other than that its pretty useless in those senarios. thats where spellshaping will shine. and on the contrary, longer fights(3+ min) or fights with power drains, conserving power and having ways to make better use of available power is more beneficial. Kinda comes down to what fomka originally said (i think he said it) do you want to do max dps on short fights, or max dps on long ones. You cant really have the best of both worlds with regards to aa set ups. I imagine if I had more than gog and my +85 power proc on grizzlefazzles for power procc'ing gear id be doing even better with specc'ing for speed, I have tossed around the idea of taking sagicity over spellshaping to see its effect on manaburn, well that and my guild (real one-not the one i raid with) has started to band together for labs runs (9-manned the first 2 named and trash) so the fights last longer and having time compression from the guild illusionist doesn't help me conserve power any better, so the thought of taking sagicity crossed my mind.

Tornadicc

01-25-2007, 04:22 AM

Thanks illu, that is the response I was looking for and I agree. I still find it interesting assuming that the 2nd wiz with the Spellshifting build got close to him with the extra power boost of Fomka. Seems to me it would be worth it to loose 100 DPS and take the Spellshifting AA and that extra amount of DPS could be made up in another way. But, I guess to it depends on the gear they are both wearing at the time that fight occurred. Anyway, I think I will just stick with the spellshifting build because its hard to keep up with the scouts in my guild for short fights and my long fights I do really well depending on my gear I am wearing. This is a great thread I have been reading it since it began because it has saved me so much respec plat. Keep up the great work!Message Edited by Tornadicc on 01-24-2007 05:25 PM

HerzenFunia

01-25-2007, 05:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tornadicc wrote: <DIV>One question. I noticed Fomka took the Sagacity AA (with the 12% power) and Illu took the 12% Spellshifting AA (with the 12% reuse). I'm wondering which one would be more beneficial? An I noticed on Fomka's parse that he outparsed the second wiz in his guild. Which I am assuming is Olympuz. So Olympuz has the same setup as Illu. So if Fomka and Olympuz are at the same skill level, on average I wonder who parses higher on longer battles, on shorter battles and on average? Hoepfully, that made some kind of sense.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah other wizard is Olympuz. Tbh I dont know if he is still using spellshifting since he respeced once not long ago, but if he is he did very well (I thought he was using sagacity too, well I will ask him tomorrow <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ). On he was struggling and 10% pwr from around 7th minute I think and to the end, and as you can see I was able to use manaburn (had around 30% pwr). Also we should take in account pwr proc gear (we both were using wand of tempest and orb of dark reveler), but I also used MO pants, which gives me an advantage for sure, On short fights sometimes it's me on top, sometimes it's him, usually we ending up not far from each other on zonewide parse (for usual instances). On long fights I'am usually higher on parse. Another thing why I dont use spellshifting is because 1. I'am playing in constant lags because my is pretty crap for eq (well I used to chain nuking with lags, playingm ore than yeah like that). 2. I need to spam raidchannel with commands or other stuff, which also takes time (means a bit less nuking). That was actually the main reason when in KoS i swapped to STR line for crists, to have more time to type <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'am thinking of trying crit line again soon, tho not sure yet. And yeah I think sagacity helps me a lot with using manaburn on not very long fights/semi long but not hard fights. For example colossums in MiS or Malkonis in FTH, at the end of every fight I'am at 90%+ pwr (sometimes happens 100% if i'am lucky on pwr procs) so I can use manaburn (colossums 4+ minutes fights, Malkonis 6+ mins). PS I will ask Oly about his AA to make it clear. PSPS And yeah Illu stated exactly what I was saying, imho you cant be god here and there, and myself I prefer long fights and using saagcity, guess it's my playstyle <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Ultimatum

01-25-2007, 09:12 PM

<div></div><div></div><div></div>Now that I have a fairly regular Mage DPS group on a nightly basis, I think I'm going to start saving my parses to post as well. I'm not nearly as well geared as a lot of the other Wizards that are contributing to this thread, and I also went down the STA AA since I play on a PvP server so I'm missing the 8% from Brainstorm, but I managed to parse a little bit over 1700 DPS zonewide in Halls of Seeing last night. I know theres still room for improvement (especially if I can bring myself to spend 10p to get the Wis line back :smileysad: ) But I'm still parsing below our crazy Assassin...IMO we have one of the best assassins in game, but I'm still determined to take him out on the parse <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Last night the top 3 were:Assassin - 2100 DPS (6.1 million total damage)Me - 1700 DPS (5.6 million total) Assassin 2 - 1300 DPS (4.2 Million total)we had 5 more DPS hovering in the 1000-1200 range with a small gap between them in total damage.My AA lines are: AGI 4-4-4-8-1 and STA 4-4-8-5, and my usual group makeup is Me, Pally, Illusionist, Troub, Fury, and another mage depending whos on. I've pretty much hijacked Time Compression from whoever else is in our group, and I also get Synergism, Vim, Amends, and the Troup proc and deaggro buffs. Also, our Troub has yet to respec for Allegro and Don't Kill the Messenger so once that happens I should see a significant change just from that.Once I start remembering to post parses I can start asking for any tips, but until then I figured I'd post this since I'm bored at work <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>Edit: In your opinion, if I switch back to the Wis line, would id be more beneficial to keep 12% reduced reuse speeds, or take the 12% power reduction? In my usual raid group I don't really have much problem going OOP except in longer fights or raid-on-raid pvp. I guess my main question is just how much of a benefit is 12% reuse reduction?Message Edited by Razerblaze on 01-25-2007 11:20 AM

IllusiveThoughts

01-25-2007, 09:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Razerblaze wrote: Now that I have a fairly regular Mage DPS group on a nightly basis, I think I'm going to start saving my parses to post as well. I'm not nearly as well geared as a lot of the other Wizards that are contributing to this thread, and I also went down the STA AA since I play on a PvP server so I'm missing the 8% from Brainstorm, but I managed to parse a little bit over 1700 DPS zonewide in Halls of Seeing last night. I know theres still room for improvement (especially if I can bring myself to spend 10p to get the Wis line back :smileysad: ) But I'm still parsing below our crazy Assassin...IMO we have one of the best assassins in game, but I'm still determined to take him out on the parse <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Last night the top 3 were: Assassin - 2100 DPS (6.1 million total damage) Me - 1700 DPS (5.6 million total) Assassin 2 - 1300 DPS (4.2 Million total) we had 5 more DPS hovering in the 1000-1200 range with a small gap between them in total damage. My AA lines are: AGI 4-4-4-8-1 and STA 4-4-8-5, and my usual group makeup is Me, Pally, Illusionist, Troub, Fury, and another mage depending whos on. I've pretty much hijacked Time Compression from whoever else is in our group, and I also get Synergism, Vim, Amends, and the Troup proc and deaggro buffs. Also, our Troub has yet to respec for Allegro and Don't Kill the Messenger so once that happens I should see a significant change just from that. Once I start remembering to post parses I can start asking for any tips, but until then I figured I'd post this since I'm bored at work <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Edit: In your opinion, if I switch back to the Wis line, would id be more beneficial to keep 12% reduced reuse speeds, or take the 12% power reduction? In my usual raid group I don't really have much problem going OOP except in longer fights or raid-on-raid pvp. I guess my main question is just how much of a benefit is 12% reuse reduction? Message Edited by Razerblaze on 01-25-2007 11:20 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> time compression is fun, its essentially making up not taking the wisdom line for you, thats how much dps that buff gives. As to your last question if you scroll up about 4-5 posts and read back to your own we just discussed that same question.

Ultimatum

01-25-2007, 09:44 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div>time compression is fun, its essentially making up not taking the wisdom line for you, thats how much dps that buff gives. As to your last question if you scroll up about 4-5 posts and read back to your own we just discussed that same question.<hr></blockquote>Yeah I love TIme Compression...It's such a noticable difference between having it and not, even with the AGI line...I don't think I could handle playing without AGI...after being so used to that much total spell haste it would be like watching paint dry <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />As to my second question...I actually read those posts, get the information I wanted, and still managed to type that question lol...I need sleep :smileyindifferent:</div>

HerzenFunia

01-27-2007, 11:13 PM

I asked our other wizard in guild (Olympuz) and yeah he is using spellshifting. Tho few more parses of long fights here from EH. First is Tender of the Seedlings (boss mob on 1st lvl). Buffs - troub and fury grp int buff (didnt have vim for that fight). 2nd wizard - same + vim. Allies: (04:52) 3724728 | 12755,92 [Fomka-Manaburn-59202] Ranger 387888 | 1328,38 Fomka 385503 | 1320,22 Wizard 312830 | 1071,34 Brig 309293 | 1059,22 Assa 292308 | 1001,06 etc This fight is similiar to Matron one, but a bit easier so dps here is higher aswell. 2nd fight is Sariah the Bloomseeker, random named on 2nd lvl. Actually named is not hard at all but fight is quite long. Same buffs as before, tho I got vim here <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (05:11) 6339380 | 20383,86 [Fomka-Manaburn-73002] Necro 619416 | 1991,69 Fomka 592348 | 1904,66 Wizard 519735 | 1671,17 Warlock 512653 | 1648,40 Ranger 502389 | 1615,40 Brig 480911 | 1546,34 Assa 434846 | 1398,22 etc The reason I'am posting those long fight parsers is because I;am mostly specced for this fights and I think I'am doing not that bad (there is always space to improve imho), so would be very nice if other wizards would post some long fights parses. Would be very nice to compare different AA setups on same fights.

Tornadicc

01-30-2007, 12:14 AM

<DIV>Thanks for the info Illu and Fomka. Once, we start taking down some of these bigger mobs I will post some parses. I kind of feel the same way you do on the long fights Fomka. It seems if you have good scouts in your raid the short fights are not as much of a worry as the long ones which are usually the end named and the most important. Zonewide I could care less what I parse if my spec helps me take out the last named to clear the zone. Maybe, after some of these zones become as easy as Lyceum I would take the spellshifting for fun. </DIV>

Lagar

01-31-2007, 06:03 PM

The Mutagenic Outcast NO Troub, Vim , etc ,etcAllies: (02:53) 2885236 | 16677.66 [Marty-Ball of Lava-47144]Swashy 289333 | 1672 | Assassin 252113 | 1457 | Marty 220281 | 1273 | Brig 215656 | 1247 | Assassin192095 | 1110 | Assassin183785 | 1062 | Illusion 167892 | 970 | <div></div>

Nethis

01-31-2007, 09:05 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> HerzenFunia wrote: <div></div> Finally we got Mayong down and I have parse from it. Tho no zonewide parse <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs for both wizards are same - troub, fury (vim on both). Group - warlock (without +proc chance AA), wiz, wiz, necro, fury, troub. As you can both me and other wizard are topping the parse. We both went for manaburn line and fire lines. Also good pwr drain from Mayong duaring fight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (08:22) 6205960 | 12362,47 [Fomka-Manaburn-27419] Fomka 743649 | 1481,37 Wizard 704488 | 1403,36 Ranger 682006 | 1358,58 Brig 404456 | 805,69 Ranger 389895 | 776,68 Assassin 372537 | 742,11 Warlock 361886 | 720,89 <hr> </blockquote>wowzers, almost 1500 dps for 8min 30sec of fighting, a mob with a power drain, sick man sick!<hr></blockquote>Yeah, that's pretty nice. Did you use that claymore power totem for that fight?</div>

IllusiveThoughts

01-31-2007, 09:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lagar wrote: The Mutagenic Outcast NO Troub, Vim , etc ,etc Allies: (02:53) 2885236 | 16677.66 [Marty-Ball of Lava-47144] Swashy 289333 | 1672 | Assassin 252113 | 1457 | Marty 220281 | 1273 | Brig 215656 | 1247 | Assassin192095 | 1110 | Assassin183785 | 1062 | Illusion 167892 | 970 | <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> If i'm not mistaken this is the first MO parse posted, and if so thanks for sharing, nearly 1300 dps with no support is respectable.

HerzenFunia

01-31-2007, 09:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nethis wrote: <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HerzenFunia wrote: Finally we got Mayong down and I have parse from it. Tho no zonewide parse <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs for both wizards are same - troub, fury (vim on both). Group - warlock (without +proc chance AA), wiz, wiz, necro, fury, troub. As you can both me and other wizard are topping the parse. We both went for manaburn line and fire lines. Also good pwr drain from Mayong duaring fight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (08:22) 6205960 | 12362,47 [Fomka-Manaburn-27419] Fomka 743649 | 1481,37 Wizard 704488 | 1403,36 Ranger 682006 | 1358,58 Brig 404456 | 805,69 Ranger 389895 | 776,68 Assassin 372537 | 742,11 Warlock 361886 | 720,89 <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>wowzers, almost 1500 dps for 8min 30sec of fighting, a mob with a power drain, sick man sick! <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, that's pretty nice. Did you use that claymore power totem for that fight? </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Nope, I didnt. I didnt died once as well as other wizard.

HerzenFunia

01-31-2007, 09:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lagar wrote: The Mutagenic Outcast NO Troub, Vim , etc ,etc Allies: (02:53) 2885236 | 16677.66 [Marty-Ball of Lava-47144] Swashy 289333 | 1672 | Assassin 252113 | 1457 | Marty 220281 | 1273 | Brig 215656 | 1247 | Assassin192095 | 1110 | Assassin183785 | 1062 | Illusion 167892 | 970 | <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> If i'm not mistaken this is the first MO parse posted, and if so thanks for sharing, nearly 1300 dps with no support is respectable. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I think I posted one or two MO parses (cant remember). Tho 1.3k without buffs is very good parse.

IllusiveThoughts

02-13-2007, 05:02 PM

glad to see this and all the other hot topics were moved over and I dont have to repost them.

HerzenFunia

02-14-2007, 06:09 PM

arant

02-15-2007, 01:08 AM

HerzenFunia

02-15-2007, 12:45 PM

IllusiveThoughts

02-15-2007, 04:43 PM

<cite>HerzenFunia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Pumpkin Headed Horseman parse. Buffs for both wizards - troub, fury (vim). We both used Wrath of Burning prince on that fight.Allies: (03:15) 4155131 | 21308,36 [Olympuz-Ball of Lava-53961] Fomka 350455 | 1797,21 Brig 309955 | 1589,51 Assa 296916 | 1522,65 Ranger 271384 | 1391,71 Necro 269269 | 1380,87 Wizard 263231 | 1349,90 Assa 260733 | 1337,09 </blockquote> wow cool didn't know he's been killed, been playing vanguard as of late. what kinda leet loot did he drop?

HerzenFunia

02-16-2007, 10:38 AM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>HerzenFunia wrote:</cite><blockquote>Pumpkin Headed Horseman parse. Buffs for both wizards - troub, fury (vim). We both used Wrath of Burning prince on that fight.Allies: (03:15) 4155131 | 21308,36 [Olympuz-Ball of Lava-53961] Fomka 350455 | 1797,21 Brig 309955 | 1589,51 Assa 296916 | 1522,65 Ranger 271384 | 1391,71 Necro 269269 | 1380,87 Wizard 263231 | 1349,90 Assa 260733 | 1337,09 </blockquote> wow cool didn't know he's been killed, been playing vanguard as of late. what kinda leet loot did he drop?</blockquote>yeah it has been killed on a lot of servers now, tho not a lot of good loot from him. well no upgrades for raid wizards at least <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Renaven

02-18-2007, 01:09 AM

SacDaddy420

02-18-2007, 06:47 AM

renaven is the sickest wiz i ever saw.

IllusiveThoughts

02-18-2007, 10:20 AM

<cite>Renaven wrote:</cite><blockquote>We finally did Lyceum post-EoF, and here's a parse I got of it. Buffs: Troub procs and TC. Allies: (23:40) 32041258 | 22564.27 [Renaven-Fusion-29447] Renaven (Wiz) 3637641 | 2561.72 Zarne (Swash) 2893360 | 2037.58 Malnok (Necro) 2883890 | 2030.91 Roobarb (Warlock) 2478151 | 1745.18 Scofield (Wiz #2) 2222706 | 1565.29 Sardonis (Bruiser) 1910075 | 1345.12 Exco (Zerker) 1830294 | 1288.94 Rillix (Brig) 1797732 | 1266.01 Alix (Conj) 1755544 | 1236.30</blockquote>lol awesome parse bud.

drajev

02-20-2007, 04:57 PM

Ya nice lyceum parse indeed for all it means now... Still TC on wiz and not warlock in lyceum is beyond comprehension for me.Nice parse on pumpkin there fomka, second mayong is not bad at all too, think i made 1.4K on our last mayong as a warlock. No more miracle tricks here after we just killed avatar of flames for the second time and now max negative faction so parses that high on a mob like pupkin are virtually impossible.

Renaven

02-20-2007, 08:00 PM

<cite>drajev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ya nice lyceum parse indeed for all it means now... Still TC on wiz and not warlock in lyceum is beyond comprehension for me.Nice parse on pumpkin there fomka, second mayong is not bad at all too, think i made 1.4K on our last mayong as a warlock. No more miracle tricks here after we just killed avatar of flames for the second time and now max negative faction so parses that high on a mob like pupkin are virtually impossible. </blockquote>I've never gotten beaten by a Warlock in Lyceum on a zone-wide level (they certainly kick my [Removed for Content] on the huge AE fights if they don't die), and we've had many in the guild over the years. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

HerzenFunia

02-21-2007, 11:53 AM

<cite>drajev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ya nice lyceum parse indeed for all it means now... Still TC on wiz and not warlock in lyceum is beyond comprehension for me.Nice parse on pumpkin there fomka, second mayong is not bad at all too, think i made 1.4K on our last mayong as a warlock. No more miracle tricks here after we just killed avatar of flames for the second time and now max negative faction so parses that high on a mob like pupkin are virtually impossible. </blockquote> Heh tnx. Actually after our first attempts on AoF (long time ago) i went to the big amount of negative faction, then swapped to tunare for wolfsbane. Then just not long ago got Sol Ro back for minion and decided to spend some pp and time to get faction back to zero. Tho guess when AoF will spawn next i wont get any miracles in my life <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

drajev

02-21-2007, 09:08 PM

Miracles were fun, had the whole Pandemonium on Sol Ro at one point just before the first AoF kill to finish off some serious mobs fast with everyone incinerating. Then all lost 40K faction and it's impossible to regain it after that as you simply regain no faction when sacrificing items. Btw had an all eof-lock night here so a few parses in my head to share with the wizard community - a 2356 top zone wide lyceum with troub, synergism + vim and a 1858 in HoS, second behind necro after a top 1393 on matron with the wizards dying/slacking, same buffs as well. Velizar, 70 warlock, Pandemonium

IllusiveThoughts

02-22-2007, 04:52 PM

<cite>drajev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Miracles were fun, had the whole Pandemonium on Sol Ro at one point just before the first AoF kill to finish off some serious mobs fast with everyone incinerating. . Velizar, 70 warlock, Pandemonium</blockquote> lol nice 30k x24 = dead raid mob

Renaven

02-23-2007, 06:08 AM

Buffs: Troub, Vim and SynergismAvatar of Flame first pull (wiped at the very end):Allies: (19:37) 13343224 | 11336.64 [Renaven-Ice Nova-25794] Renaven (Wiz #1) 2513874 | 2135.83 Scofield (Wiz #2) 1419595 | 1206.11 Alix (Conj) 1081066 | 918.49 Zarne (Swash) 1074863 | 913.22 Rhazx (Ranger) 1066277 | 905.93 Malnok (Necro) 912248 | 775.06Avatar of Flame second pull (when we killed him)Allies: (17:16) 12667857 | 12227.66 [Scofield-Ice Nova-23460] Renaven (Wiz #1) 2267531 | 2188.74 Scofield (Wiz #2) 1443862 | 1393.69 Alix (Conj) 1043473 | 1007.21 Rhazx (Ranger) 1034885 | 998.92 Zarne (Swash) 1017964 | 982.59 Malnok (Necro) 925376 | 893.22That's right -- and the adds are heat resistant too. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

D-DevilK

02-23-2007, 07:03 AM

I'm willing to bet you used Iceshape =P

Renaven

02-23-2007, 07:09 AM

Correct. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Once every 1 min and 30 secs, so I could get in a Firestorm on the adds. You caught me on that =p

D-DevilK

02-23-2007, 10:14 AM

Woo ;D

IllusiveThoughts

02-23-2007, 07:51 PM

jesus man nearly 2200 dps for 17 min straight, insane!

HerzenFunia

02-23-2007, 10:02 PM

that's what I call leet dps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> great parsers there Ren.

drajev

02-24-2007, 06:25 AM

My first avatar of flames parse was 1940 dps in 19 mins fight, then this week we absolutely tore him apart in 12 mins and i was top dps again in 2K exactly, had some lag problems else would have done more as finished fight at 60% mana with the regen items procing all the time on my aes.The fixed avatar of Valor fight last 23 mins - thats right! - and i topped it with 1513 dps, 2.2M dmg.Edit: Most impressed by NPU killing the avatar of flames without a warlock.

Renaven

02-24-2007, 06:59 AM

Thanks. Not having a Warlock definitely hindered us -- I'm certain we could have easily shaved minutes off with one. Ours *should* be around for the next kill, though.

Darien al'Staff

02-25-2007, 08:14 AM

Re, what is your Achievement setup?

wckron

02-25-2007, 12:35 PM

HerzenFunia

02-25-2007, 07:03 PM

<cite>wckronus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just wondering, is this a good parse for a wizard? Troub+Fury in grp Freethinkers Hideout Allies: (29:26) 35187894 | 19925.20 [Kronusrt-Manaburn-50390] Kronusrt 3368212 | 1907.26 Necro 2842510 | 1609.58 Brigand 2209184 | 1250.95 Assasin 2106421 | 1192.76 Warlock 1997537 | 1131.11 </blockquote> yeah it'sa good parse imho, tho i wonder why you max manaburn hit is so low?

wckron

02-25-2007, 07:28 PM

I used Manaburn at the end of the fights instead of the start

Dargot

02-26-2007, 01:00 PM

HerzenFunia

02-26-2007, 01:32 PM

<cite>wckronus wrote:</cite><blockquote>I used Manaburn at the end of the fights instead of the start </blockquote> Heh, well both me and other wizard in my guild doing manaburns around 80k on trash fights (we arent doing manaburn at start of fights, it's just not necessery). By looking at your parser I can say that your raid is killing trash mobs fast enough and you can't spend too much pwr there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> And do you use MB with FH?

wckron

02-26-2007, 08:17 PM

No<img src="/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Renaven

02-26-2007, 09:29 PM

Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Re, what is your Achievement setup? </blockquote> 4-4-4-8-8 str 4-5-4-8 wis

3C HAVOK

02-28-2007, 12:22 AM

Darien al'Staff

03-01-2007, 10:43 AM

<cite>Renaven wrote:</cite><blockquote>Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Re, what is your Achievement setup? </blockquote> 4-4-4-8-8 str 4-5-4-8 wis</blockquote>Do you use Manaburn as well?

Falcogen

03-01-2007, 01:24 PM

No manaburn is [Removed for Content]

Renaven

03-06-2007, 05:41 AM

Buffs: Troub, Vim, Syn, TCPlease keep in mind that the Avatar of Growth stuns and disrupts DPS quite a lot.Avatar of Growth:Allies: (38:35) 30042729 | 12977.42 [Scofield-Ice Nova-20942] Renaven (Wiz #1) 4177748 | 1804.64 Scofield (Wiz #2) 2994461 | 1293.50 Zarne (Swash) 2767561 | 1195.49 Malnok (Necro) 2335041 | 1008.66 Alix (Conj) 1954271 | 844.18 Rillix (Brig) 1645175 | 710.66

HerzenFunia

03-08-2007, 11:58 AM

Avatar of Flame parse. Buffs - vim, troub. Both other wizard and warlock died 3 times duaring fight, tho I wasmore lucky and went rambo at the very end <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Allies: (16:04) 11544869 | 11976,00 [Fomka-Ice Nova-18941] Fomka 1308118 | 1356,97 | 11% | Crits:149 Wizard 1069983 | 1109,94 | 9% | Crits:112 Conj 1024082 | 1062,33 | 8% | Crits:213 Warlock 883586 | 916,58 | 7% | Crits:72 Ranger 873136 | 905,74 | 7% | Crits:190 Brig 843345 | 874,84 | 7% | Crits:0 Ranger 703040 | 729,29 | 6% | Crits:328 Swash 666366 | 691,25 | 5% | Crits:260 Oh and parse was made by one of our rangers, I cant say how accurate it is.

Renaven

03-09-2007, 12:14 AM

Buffs: Troub, Vim, Time CompressionLyceum zone parse (agi/wis specced -- last one was str/wis specced, also I have the Robe of Al'Kabor now)Allies: (22:11) 31548446 | 23702.81 [Renaven-Fusion-31940] Renaven (Wiz #1) 3917283 | 2943.11 Zarne (Swash) 3212862 | 2413.87 Scofield (Wiz #2) 2687042 | 2018.81 Rillix (Brig) 2384439 | 1791.46 Killua (Assa) 1956574 | 1470.00 Ibeo (Brig) 1930971 | 1450.77 Alix (Conj) 1680217 | 1262.37

kingdeke

03-09-2007, 04:15 PM

Jebus man...you're an animal.

IllusiveThoughts

03-09-2007, 04:39 PM

<cite>Renaven wrote:</cite><blockquote>Buffs: Troub, Vim, Time CompressionLyceum zone parse (agi/wis specced -- last one was str/wis specced, also I have the Robe of Al'Kabor now)Allies: (22:11) 31548446 | 23702.81 [Renaven-Fusion-31940] Renaven (Wiz #1) 3917283 | 2943.11 Zarne (Swash) 3212862 | 2413.87 Scofield (Wiz #2) 2687042 | 2018.81 Rillix (Brig) 2384439 | 1791.46 Killua (Assa) 1956574 | 1470.00 Ibeo (Brig) 1930971 | 1450.77 Alix (Conj) 1680217 | 1262.37 </blockquote>wheres the "i'm not worthy" emote when you need it! that is just freaking nuts.

Renaven

03-09-2007, 05:02 PM

I died about 5 times as well, and we were chain pulling so I spent a few fights completely oop with rez sickness and no buffs; aggro sucked horribly at the beginning because we had a Assassin in the MT group for hate instead of a Swash for AE hate. Hopefully I can push myself a little further next time.What I can't wait for is to see how I parse when I get the Unrest 1h, Set pants, and the 5 piece set bonus. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Those shouldn't take *too* long to get, unless we have really bad luck.

The-Plethora

03-11-2007, 10:15 PM

I guess I parse anywhere from 1600 > 1900 usually. My best ever parse on a raid mob is below and I cant see myself beating that for a loooong time. <a href="http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4960916" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://img1.putfile.com/t...pg" border="0"></a> I am specced out for single huge hits, AA's are catalyst, freehand, manaburn and spell expertise. I have about 80aa's does anyone have any recommends for iceshape or fireshape? at the moment I am heading down the iceshape line and also want to add the extra damage to shocking flash line. If you have huge deagro never underestimate the uberness of forge of ro, without agro management I find I will get killed quick on multi mob encounters.

SacDaddy420

03-12-2007, 05:28 AM

iceshape is MUCH more beneficial than fireshape. combo iceshape and the 5 pts in frigid gift and cast it every time its up in your mage group. you'll find that the Ice Lash proc calculated all together (meaning everyones' damage off it. warlocks love it) will equal more damage than your ice novas put together in a zone parse. it's sick. I personally like it more than Manaburn. I have fireshape as well, but it combined with inferno surge does no where near as much damage. And reneven is a [I cannot control my vocabulary] beast And this is the longest thread ever <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

The-Plethora

03-13-2007, 09:58 AM

Can you explain the damage from iceshape? I have got to putting points into the surging tempest line so about 10 points in all to go till I get it. From the description it turns all attacks into ice based ones? If you use fridgid gift which is an ice based attack itself I guess the change in damage will apply to the other players but why will an attack cause more damage simply because it is considered an ice attack?. I thought it was just to combat mobs resistances to certain damage types, maybe I am missing something?

Bright_Morn

03-14-2007, 05:24 PM

Frigid Gift does not proc when you cast fire spells... so if you use it in conjunction with Ice Shape, all your spells of you and your group now proc Frigid Gift. Which would also now last 17seconds instead of the normal 12.

HerzenFunia

03-19-2007, 07:51 PM

Avatar of Valour, buffs - troub, fury.Allies: (17:33) 11157168 | 10595,60 [Fomka-Fusion-21128] Fomka (died 2 times) 1460206 | 1386,71 | crits - 138 Olympuz (wiz#2) 1377585 | 1308,25 | crits - 110 Xede(warlock#1, died 2 times) 1170907 | 1111,97 | crits - 172 Tesei (ranger) 1038707 | 986,43 | crits - 167 Ellistrae (swash) 917730 | 871,54 | crits - 298 Vredina (warlock#2, died once or twice) 743069 | 705,67 | crits - 34 Adunas (conj) 612059 | 581,25 | crits - 114 Reddevil (necro) 513348 | 487,51 | crits - 15 etc

TsarRasput

03-20-2007, 03:48 AM

drajev

03-20-2007, 12:12 PM

Often seeing uber wizard parses on avatars here so giving you a couple of warlock power on 2 avatar fights.Avatar of Flames(11:33) 10018489 | 14456.69 | Morlander-22080" Velizar 1540936 | 2223.57" me - warlock Bigron 1146305 | 1654.12" - conj Morlander 1055914 | 1523.69" - wiz Geradin 831533 | 1199.90" - brig Copperfeild 815767 | 1177.15" - conj Shaddowz 751795 | 1084.84" - necro Ducane 665304 | 960.03" - swash Gigas 606225 | 874.78" - illusion Avatar of Growth, just fresh from last night (37:24) 24733059 | 11021.86" "Velizar 4117961 | 1835.10""Morlander 2099281 | 935.51" - wiz "Ranvarenaya 2039875 | 909.04" - ranger "Ducane 1983907 | 884.09" - swash "Geradin 1715688 | 764.57" - brig "Shaddowz 1713043 | 763.39" - necro "Ciin 1300356 | 579.48" - illusion "Hoodhop 1269174 | 565.59 - zerker On both fights i had TC, troub, vim, synergism and harmonious link, died 4 times on Growth so think i lost the harmonious link from the first death onwards. The deaths and stuns/stifles seriously messed up my dps but still not too shabby. Edit: Was testing the Plasma wand for the first time on a serious fight and was quite impressed by the dps increase, i'm pretty sure i had that proc on me 70%+ of the fight with all my aoes making it proc so i'd definitely suppose it's the best 1-hander for sorcerers after the staff of light.

IllusiveThoughts

03-20-2007, 07:13 PM

<cite>drajev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Often seeing uber wizard parses on avatars here so giving you a couple of warlock power on 2 avatar fights.Avatar of Flames(11:33) 10018489 | 14456.69 | Morlander-22080" Velizar 1540936 | 2223.57" me - warlock Bigron 1146305 | 1654.12" - conj Morlander 1055914 | 1523.69" - wiz Geradin 831533 | 1199.90" - brig Copperfeild 815767 | 1177.15" - conj Shaddowz 751795 | 1084.84" - necro Ducane 665304 | 960.03" - swash Gigas 606225 | 874.78" - illusion Avatar of Growth, just fresh from last night (37:24) 24733059 | 11021.86" "Velizar 4117961 | 1835.10""Morlander 2099281 | 935.51" - wiz "Ranvarenaya 2039875 | 909.04" - ranger "Ducane 1983907 | 884.09" - swash "Geradin 1715688 | 764.57" - brig "Shaddowz 1713043 | 763.39" - necro "Ciin 1300356 | 579.48" - illusion "Hoodhop 1269174 | 565.59 - zerker On both fights i had TC, troub, vim, synergism and harmonious link, died 4 times on Growth so think i lost the harmonious link from the first death onwards. The deaths and stuns/stifles seriously messed up my dps but still not too shabby. Edit: Was testing the Plasma wand for the first time on a serious fight and was quite impressed by the dps increase, i'm pretty sure i had that proc on me 70%+ of the fight with all my aoes making it proc so i'd definitely suppose it's the best 1-hander for sorcerers after the staff of light.</blockquote>thats awesome, lets see some more warlock parses, we all know the red-headed step children can dps when give the right buffs!

Koehianna

03-20-2007, 11:39 PM

<cite>drajev wrote:</cite><blockquote>Often seeing uber wizard parses on avatars here so giving you a couple of warlock power on 2 avatar fights.Avatar of Flames(11:33) 10018489 | 14456.69 | Morlander-22080" Velizar 1540936 | 2223.57" me - warlock Bigron 1146305 | 1654.12" - conj Morlander 1055914 | 1523.69" - wiz Geradin 831533 | 1199.90" - brig Copperfeild 815767 | 1177.15" - conj Shaddowz 751795 | 1084.84" - necro Ducane 665304 | 960.03" - swash Gigas 606225 | 874.78" - illusion Avatar of Growth, just fresh from last night (37:24) 24733059 | 11021.86" "Velizar 4117961 | 1835.10""Morlander 2099281 | 935.51" - wiz "Ranvarenaya 2039875 | 909.04" - ranger "Ducane 1983907 | 884.09" - swash "Geradin 1715688 | 764.57" - brig "Shaddowz 1713043 | 763.39" - necro "Ciin 1300356 | 579.48" - illusion "Hoodhop 1269174 | 565.59 - zerker On both fights i had TC, troub, vim, synergism and harmonious link, died 4 times on Growth so think i lost the harmonious link from the first death onwards. The deaths and stuns/stifles seriously messed up my dps but still not too shabby. Edit: Was testing the Plasma wand for the first time on a serious fight and was quite impressed by the dps increase, i'm pretty sure i had that proc on me 70%+ of the fight with all my aoes making it proc so i'd definitely suppose it's the best 1-hander for sorcerers after the staff of light.</blockquote>Woot! Show the wizzies how it's done. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'd post some of my parses, but my parses don't really have anything to add to the wizard community since I'm a warlock.

SacDaddy420

03-24-2007, 06:03 AM

Tonite in FTH. Buffs were troub, vim, synergism and TC DMG | DPS | Crits Allies: (33:53) 35049680 | 17240~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-28491] necro 3630780 | 1786 | 982 Sacd 3389812 | 1667 | 905 ranja 3074700 | 1512 | 1003 lock 2899538 | 1426 | 240 assa 2752390 | 1354 | 1398 brig 2332342 | 1147 | 732 swash 2246517 | 1105 | 324 and without Trey and Malk since they are both weird fights (wink) Allies: (18:55) 25387505 | 22368~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-28491] necro 2648473 | 2333 | 658 Sacd 2510434 | 2212 | 684 lock 2203773 | 1942 | 192 ranja 2162518 | 1905 | 739 assa 2051135 | 1807 | 1005 swash 1705008 | 1502 | 273 zerk 1614587 | 1423 | 265 brig 1563518 | 1378 | 496 And here's our progress in IS. left out all the chaperones, since they are [Removed for Content]. Mayong aint dead yet. but he will be next week. (wink x2) Allies: (01:10:54) 78165924 | 18375~ [Sacdaddicus-Fusion-34428] Sacd 7744763 | 1821 | 2078 necro 6880337 | 1617 | 1987 lock 6457363 | 1518 | 658 ranja 6441316 | 1514 | 1990 swash 5850346 | 1375 | 895 assa 5594928 | 1315 | 2809 brig 5487904 | 1290 | 1571 zerk 5086644 | 1196 | 917 that 34K fusion was brought to you by the Crystallized Wand. I'm thinkin of trying Manaburn again. We'll see....... Peace.

HerzenFunia

03-24-2007, 12:41 PM

Our last MiS run (all mobs in parse). Troub +fury buffs, tho dont look at other wizard parse since he was in a shite grp wihtout troub tho with loads of deagro.Allies: (01:06:19) 83238163 | 20919,37 [Muximus-Stake Through the Heart-136913] Tesei (ranger) 8137040 | 2045,00 Fomka (me) 7159267 | 1799,26 Vadania (assa) 6002049 | 1508,43 Olympuz (wiz#2) 5634009 | 1415,94 Adunas (conj) 5414109 | 1360,67 Ambushz (brig) 5262269 | 1322,51 Likkon (swash) 5239204 | 1316,71 Reddevil (necro) 5036096 | 1265,67 Kaellin (Brig) 4889184 | 1228,75 Xede (warlock) 4120892 | 1035,66

goboy

03-27-2007, 01:54 PM

Decided to take a look at this thread again - you all make this humble test wizard look bad. Best I have been able to pull zonewide is 1300. Then again, we have enough personnel longivity problems on test that keep us from progressing (gearing new people up).My current AA setup is:AGI 4/4/6/8/1 and Wiz 4/7/4/8/1EOF:Power - 5/5/5/5/1 (fortify, vital, anomalism, cropping, manaburn)Cold - 3/5/3/1/1/3 (rending, ice nova, something, surging tempest, something else, fusion)Shielding - 3 (respeccing out of this one)I guess my question would be - why the fire line? I like the resitance decrease of the cold line - but does it really help that much? For soloing, I do like the extended range on fusion - but could get by with 2. I am toying with the idea of respeccing EOF line to get Ball of Lava - but also wanted Ice Shape. Obviously cannot get both. If I take only manaburn, then I could do both Fire and Cold at 3/3/3/1/1/3. Too many decisions.

HerzenFunia

03-28-2007, 02:30 AM

Well, imho if you're not taking frigid gift from aa's there is no point in putting any points after you got ice nova5. With manaburn (again imho) best setup is - fire line down to bol - infreno surge, manaburn and 5 points in ice nova.

HerzenFunia

03-30-2007, 03:23 AM

<cite>Fomka@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote> Finally we got Mayong down and I have parse from it. Tho no zonewide parse <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Buffs for both wizards are same - troub, fury (vim on both). Group - warlock (without +proc chance AA), wiz, wiz, necro, fury, troub. As you can both me and other wizard are topping the parse. We both went for manaburn line and fire lines. Also good pwr drain from Mayong duaring fight <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Allies: (08:22) 6205960 | 12362,47 [Fomka-Manaburn-27419] Fomka 743649 | 1481,37 Wizard 704488 | 1403,36 Ranger 682006 | 1358,58 Brig 404456 | 805,69 Ranger 389895 | 776,68 Assassin 372537 | 742,11 Warlock 361886 | 720,89 </blockquote> just quotted myself to see the difference with our very first Mayong kill. Same buffs as before.Allies: (04:45) 5749463 | 20173,55 [Fomka-Ice Nova-21386] Ranger #1 647260 | 2271,09 | 11% | Crits:80 Fomka 572410 | 2008,46 | 9% | Crits:44 Ranger #2 524074 | 1838,86 | 9% | Crits:97 Assa 477555 | 1675,63 | 8% | Crits:250 Conj 464572 | 1630,08 | 8% | Crits:165 Brig 342518 | 1201,82 | 5% | Crits:24 Zerker 331903 | 1164,57 | 5% | Crits:145 Necro 325871 | 1143,41 | 5% | Crits:14 Swash 299223 | 1049,91 | 5% | Crits:78

Helenna

03-30-2007, 09:46 AM

Has anyone worked out the math for when you have iceshape/ frigid gift up do you cycle your spells just like normal or do you choose all your short casting time spells in order to cause a higher number of procs? Also how do you find this combo effects you personal dps,I know it will encrease the Dps of the raid force. And one more thing do you cast it right off the pull?or wait for the tank to get set? or even mid cycle? Yes I am a noob, trying hard to change that though.<img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

simpwrx02

03-30-2007, 10:04 AM

Personally I cast ice shape/frigid gift as the tank is positioning the mob, normally it is just about done casting as the dps call is made. I will normally only recast it on long fights, but since guild has been struggling as of late havent been doing much EoF zones I am use to only casting it just before dps call. However on the longer fights aka >2 minutes I will try to cast it when ever it is up. Less than 2 minutes and I will just wait untill next fight to cast again, that way can always start off the fight with frigid gift. As far as spell chioce after casting it, I normally try to keep with my normal mehtod as the extra 500-600 per proc does not make up for your higher damage spells.... on second and consecutive casts in a fight I will wait untill I have cast ice nova then I will do the frigidgift/iceshape combo, that way I can keep my normal spell rotation and get an extra proc by not having to cast ice nova as it is a long way from being ready again.

Helenna

04-01-2007, 04:31 AM

I would like to hear from any of you, "hardcore" guys to know how you use this combo in raids, grp setups etc. To see what we haven't thought of yet. For way to tweek max dps for the raidforce, not necesarily just my own dps as ultimately, that is not as important. I really appreciate your input.

Nastharl

04-01-2007, 01:00 PM

Its been posted various times on the thread <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Jimbump

04-03-2007, 08:43 AM

I recently change from strength to agility and found that my DPS increased in the overall raid parse by about 200dps. Here is the final parse for HoS. The only buff on me was Amends (the assassin had a dirge). I'm staying with this build and can't wait to try it in a better raid set up!Allies: (49:4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 55752626 | 18658.84 [Guardian-Vortex of Desecration-198103] Assassin 5188022 | 1736.29 Mica(me) 4998022 | 1672.70 Ranger 4315951 | 1444.43 Brigand 4141317 | 1385.98 Wizard2 3560623 | 1191.64 Swashbuckler 3486580 | 1166.86 Warlock 3372196 | 1128.58 Brigand 3216730 | 1076.55 Conjuror 3164844 | 1059.19 Guardian 3125362 | 1045.97

slippery

04-03-2007, 01:45 PM

MMiS, Buffs are Troub + Illu with TC. Proc gear is HQ Belt, Necro Orb, Mystical Orb, Griz wand. Allies: (58:00) 90737720 | 26074 extdps [Mateo-135953] Necro - 2682 dps, 2485 extdps, 2477 crits, 7 deaths Me - 2420 dps, 2212 extdps, 572 crits, 1 deaths Swash - 2284 dps, 2162 extdps, 3222 crits, 0 deaths Conj - 2251 dps, 2142 extdps, 1449 crits, 1 deaths Illu - 2152 dps, 2011 extdps, 1272 crits, 0 deaths Assassin - 2065 dps, 1906 extdps, 3536 crits, 1 deaths Brig - 1995 dps, 1835 extdps, 1424 crits, 0 deaths

Zyphius

04-05-2007, 12:34 AM

Ok, Illusive... I've been following this thread and taking your advice for a couple years now. This is our parse for FTH tonight. I can't seem to beat [Removed for Content], Swashies, Rangers, or Necros that are trying. What gives?? We usually have about 2 of each, and one of each beat me "most" of the time.My AA are Agi/Wis and Ice line to Fusion, partly through Power line.My Group: Troub Ranger#1 Necro#1 Fury Inquis Me of courseKey: Name Damage | DPS | ExtDPS | ExtHPS - Sorted by ExtDPSZone Allies: (35:24) 28609729 | 13469.74 [Zyphius-Ball of Lava-50514] Ranger#1 3047455 | 1769.72 | 1434.77 | 0.00 Assassin 3015340 | 1661.34 | 1419.65 | 0.14 Necro#1 2968594 | 1683.83 | 1397.64 | 38.74 Swashy#1 2665410 | 1484.91 | 1254.90 | 0.00 Zyphius 2614832 | 1538.14 | 1231.09 | 1.33 Necro#2 2234382 | 1223.65 | 1051.97 | 23.64 Ranger#2 2083191 | 1189.04 | 980.79 | 2.04 Monk 1743035 | 977.04 | 820.64 | 6.99Trash Allies: (20:35) 19789213 | 16023.65 [Zyphius-Fusion-22490] Assassin 2225363 | 2105.36 | 1801.91 | 0.00 Ranger#1 2084204 | 1977.42 | 1687.62 | 0.00 Swashy#1 1979985 | 1847.00 | 1603.23 | 0.00 Necro#1 1893797 | 1819.21 | 1533.44 | 29.80 Zyphius 1626260 | 1616.56 | 1316.81 | 1.71 Necro#2 1461098 | 1410.33 | 1183.08 | 15.55 Ranger#2 1378929 | 1372.07 | 1116.54 | 0.00 Monk 1309422 | 1278.73 | 1060.26 | 4.68Zylphax Allies: (02:32) 2864168 | 18843.21 [Zyphius-Ball of Lava-50514] Ranger#1 349369 | 2426.17 | 2298.48 | 0.00 Necro#1 347449 | 2412.84 | 2285.85 | 48.22 Zyphius 321501 | 2296.44 | 2115.14 | 0.00 Assassin 293483 | 1996.48 | 1930.81 | 0.00 Swashy#1 279040 | 1937.78 | 1835.79 | 0.00 Necro#2 251202 | 1685.92 | 1652.65 | 40.38 Ranger#2 152425 | 1129.07 | 1002.80 | 0.00 Brigand 146195 | 1036.84 | 961.81 | 0.00Othysis Allies: (02:40) 2777274 | 17357.96 [Zyphius-Ice Nova-17070] Necro#1 293650 | 1957.67 | 1835.31 | 27.51 Assassin 266414 | 1752.72 | 1665.09 | 1.92 Ranger#1 256499 | 1698.67 | 1603.12 | 0.00 Zyphius 247250 | 1659.40 | 1545.31 | 1.11 Swashy#1 231942 | 1536.04 | 1449.64 | 0.00 Ranger#2 191262 | 1301.10 | 1195.39 | 0.00 Brigand 182317 | 1231.87 | 1139.48 | 1.51 Monk 179545 | 1173.50 | 1122.16 | 4.46Treyloth Attempt 1 Allies: (02:00) 636510 | 5304.25 [Zyphius-Ice Nova-9554] Necro#1 89739 | 1094.38 | 747.83 | 34.06 Zyphius 89187 | 1274.10 | 743.23 | 1.48 Necro#2 70086 | 973.42 | 584.05 | 30.55 Ranger#1 69447 | 978.13 | 578.73 | 0.00 Ranger#2 67139 | 1049.05 | 559.49 | 0.00 Assassin 42275 | 480.40 | 352.29 | 0.00 Brigand 32116 | 479.34 | 267.63 | 0.00 Swashy#1 25005 | 235.90 | 208.38 | 0.00Attempt 2 - Invalid (I crashed near the beginning of this fight) Allies: (00:26) 166847 | 6417.19 [Ranger#2-Rain of Arrows-8314] Ranger#1 34971 | 1520.48 | 1345.04 | 0.00 Ranger#2 28269 | 1284.96 | 1087.27 | 0.00 Necro#2 27135 | 1179.78 | 1043.65 | 34.35 Zyphius 19164 | 958.20 | 737.08 | 0.00 Necro#1 14363 | 598.46 | 552.42 | 93.62 Swashy#1 7319 | 406.61 | 281.50 | 0.00 Assassin 7087 | 442.94 | 272.58 | 0.00 Gaurdian 6715 | 268.60 | 258.27 | 0.00Attempt 3 Allies: (01:50) 553198 | 5029.07 [Ranger#2-Sniper Shot-8817] Zyphius 87974 | 1127.87 | 799.76 | 1.62 Necro#1 82216 | 978.76 | 747.42 | 52.67 Ranger#2 77401 | 992.32 | 703.65 | 0.00 Necro#2 63881 | 638.81 | 580.74 | 51.95 Assassin 51109 | 574.26 | 464.63 | 0.00 Brigand 36645 | 416.42 | 333.14 | 0.00 Swashy#1 32665 | 447.47 | 296.95 | 0.00 Troub 27120 | 334.81 | 246.55 | 0.00Attempt 4 Allies: (05:21) 1838957 | 5728.84 [Zyphius-Ice Nova-12332] Necro#1 247380 | 1039.41 | 770.65 | 66.79 Ranger#1 239698 | 918.38 | 746.72 | 0.00 Zyphius 223496 | 943.02 | 696.25 | 0.55 Ranger#2 187766 | 623.81 | 584.94 | 13.49 Necro#2 186419 | 627.67 | 580.74 | 34.22 Assassin 129609 | 487.25 | 403.77 | 0.00 Swashy#1 109454 | 473.83 | 340.98 | 0.00 Gaurdian 92390 | 301.93 | 287.82 | 45.79Now if wizards are so balanced... then [I cannot control my vocabulary] am I doing wrong here?? Sure, I parse in the top few, but I am CONSISTANTLY behind the Assassin, Ranger, and Swashy. Sometimes one of those three slack, and fall behind me, but I am RARELY on top. The whole night I only topped the parse one fight (on trash no less - excluding the one attempt on the third named above).

SacDaddy420

04-05-2007, 06:09 AM

maybe if you try to talk the raid leader into swiching that inq out for a temp spec'd with blessings. If not at least you still have DR and Fana. perhaps resetting your EoF AA's and building down to Iceshape/ Frigid Gift THEN start working in power. Try casting those 2 macro'd together whenever it's up in an encounter. Esp. before AoE's. Don't be afraid to go balls deep. With a troub in group I feel 99% confident i wont rip on fusioning 3 mobs that are yellow or less. Whenever PotM is up, AoE!!!!!!

Zyphius

04-05-2007, 09:57 AM

<cite>SacDaddy420 wrote:</cite><blockquote> maybe if you try to talk the raid leader into swiching that inq out for a temp spec'd with blessings. If not at least you still have DR and Fana. perhaps resetting your EoF AA's and building down to Iceshape/ Frigid Gift THEN start working in power. Try casting those 2 macro'd together whenever it's up in an encounter. Esp. before AoE's. Don't be afraid to go balls deep. With a troub in group I feel 99% confident i wont rip on fusioning 3 mobs that are yellow or less. Whenever PotM is up, AoE!!!!!! </blockquote> We aren't a guild, so raid makeup varies. It's not that often that I get lucky enough to be the wiz in the troub group, and having a fury in my group is not really often either. The only temp on the raid last night was in the MT group. I almost thought I was going to lose my fury since at the begining we had one group with two inquis, and the RL had to move one of them. He was considering swapping the fury for it (all other groups had a cleric), but instead he swapped the coercer with it. We normally have at least one or two more wizards, but last night I was the only one, so I "got the troub by default", lol.If you go to <a href="http://forums.eq2alliance.com/viewforum.php?id=5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.eq2alliance.com/viewforum.php?id=5</a> and look at the various raids, most have our parses. The ones I attend (and consists of primarily our normal raid team) are Sunday and Wed nights. There you will see how I fair against the Assassin, Swashy, and Ranger with various group make-ups across various zones.

darklumi

04-10-2007, 04:52 PM

Somewhat off topic but to encourage our DPS people, I wrote a small addon (though not completely compatible) to eqdkp: <a href="http://www.tut-legacy.org/eqdkp/dpsraids.php?s=aae797c3fb57da5543608579265cb15b&pd=15" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tut-legacy.org/eqdkp/dps...cb15b&pd=15</a> <a href="http://www.tut-legacy.org/eqdkp/viewdpsraid.php?ID=22" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tut-legacy.org/eqdkp/vie...sraid.php?ID=22</a> <a href="http://www.tut-legacy.org/eqdkp/viewdpsmember.php?ID=177&Player=Darklumina" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tut-legacy.org/eqdkp/vie...ayer=Darklumina</a>

IllusiveThoughts

04-10-2007, 06:34 PM

<cite>Zyphius wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, Illusive... I've been following this thread and taking your advice for a couple years now. This is our parse for FTH tonight. I can't seem to beat [Removed for Content], Swashies, Rangers, or Necros that are trying. What gives?? We usually have about 2 of each, and one of each beat me "most" of the time.My AA are Agi/Wis and Ice line to Fusion, partly through Power line.My Group: Troub Ranger#1 Necro#1 Fury Inquis Me of courseKey: Name Damage | DPS | ExtDPS | ExtHPS - Sorted by ExtDPSZone Allies: (35:24) 28609729 | 13469.74 [Zyphius-Ball of Lava-50514] Ranger#1 3047455 | 1769.72 | 1434.77 | 0.00 Assassin 3015340 | 1661.34 | 1419.65 | 0.14 Necro#1 2968594 | 1683.83 | 1397.64 | 38.74 Swashy#1 2665410 | 1484.91 | 1254.90 | 0.00 Zyphius 2614832 | 1538.14 | 1231.09 | 1.33 Necro#2 2234382 | 1223.65 | 1051.97 | 23.64 Ranger#2 2083191 | 1189.04 | 980.79 | 2.04 Monk 1743035 | 977.04 | 820.64 | 6.99Now if wizards are so balanced... then [I cannot control my vocabulary] am I doing wrong here?? Sure, I parse in the top few, but I am CONSISTANTLY behind the Assassin, Ranger, and Swashy. Sometimes one of those three slack, and fall behind me, but I am RARELY on top. The whole night I only topped the parse one fight (on trash no less - excluding the one attempt on the third named above).</blockquote>lol okay lets take a few breathers. The #'s you put up are much improved over what you used to parse, remember those days?We need to identify how many aa's you have since you dont yet have manaburn which is a big jump in zone dps from the trash fights, and on short enough named fights a good sized chunk, also how much INT did you have buffed with vim?We also need to know how many aa's the ranger has and the necro/swash that are beating you. Truthfully you and the necro will be close in dps being in the same group, if you both got HL from the coercer, and equal buffage (both got vim ect) If he has lifeburn he will out parse you until you get manaburn (or unless you're a crazy mofo like renaven /boggle)The point i'm trying to make is the differences on your parse can be made up with manaburn, and put you right on the heel's of that #1 ranger on the zone parse, above everyone else. Seeing as how the ranger was grouped up with you what buffs was the troub playing? i'm sure he saccrificed a caster song for mele haste. so which one did he drop, I bet it was arias. thats another 4% dps from that buff, which would of helped put you closer to the swash, but you and the necro would both rise by the same margin.Also how was your hate managemnt? did you even get HL from the coercer? or did you just have the troub to work with? What kind of hate gain was on the tank? how many deaths did you have? were you able to go full burn on the 4 mob x3 epics?

kingdeke

04-11-2007, 12:31 PM

our first Mayong kill as a guild:Allies: (10:27) | 8165958 | 13023.86 | [Cyvan-Incinerate-25392] Me -> 1651.24 Conj-> 1269.26 Illus -> 1007.43 Assassin -> 966.43 Swash -> 945.26 Necro -> 814.28 Assassin -> 796.35 Swash -> 770.22We slipped up and he healed twice, thats why theres so much HP going on. Before Inner Sanctum we ran through Lyceum, heres a zonewide of that. I had troub, vim, TC, and synergism (lost TC and synergism right after that big pull on the stairs)Allies: (20:20) | 35406150 | 29021.43 | [Tzeath-Ice Nova-25730] Swash -> 2448.56 Me -> 2397.87 Swash -> 2315.71 Assassin -> 2232.37 Assassin -> 1932.38 Necro -> 1864.86 Brig -> 1715.48 Brig -> 1321.37

IllusiveThoughts

04-11-2007, 01:20 PM

<cite>kingdeke wrote:</cite><blockquote>our first Mayong kill as a guild:Allies: (10:27) | 8165958 | 13023.86 | [Cyvan-Incinerate-25392] Me -> 1651.24 Conj-> 1269.26 Illus -> 1007.43 Assassin -> 966.43 Swash -> 945.26 Necro -> 814.28 Assassin -> 796.35 Swash -> 770.22We slipped up and he healed twice, thats why theres so much HP going on. Before Inner Sanctum we ran through Lyceum, heres a zonewide of that. I had troub, vim, TC, and synergism (lost TC and synergism right after that big pull on the stairs)Allies: (20:20) | 35406150 | 29021.43 | [Tzeath-Ice Nova-25730] Swash -> 2448.56 Me -> 2397.87 Swash -> 2315.71 Assassin -> 2232.37 Assassin -> 1932.38 Necro -> 1864.86 Brig -> 1715.48 Brig -> 1321.37 </blockquote>congrats on taking mayong down!

kingdeke

04-11-2007, 02:04 PM

SacDaddy420

04-13-2007, 07:35 AM

ya, thats true. but you would lose the +25% chance to every proc item you have. and grats on mayong

Darien al'Staff

04-13-2007, 03:28 PM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zyphius wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, Illusive... I've been following this thread and taking your advice for a couple years now. This is our parse for FTH tonight. I can't seem to beat [Removed for Content], Swashies, Rangers, or Necros that are trying. What gives?? We usually have about 2 of each, and one of each beat me "most" of the time.My AA are Agi/Wis and Ice line to Fusion, partly through Power line.My Group: Troub Ranger#1 Necro#1 Fury Inquis Me of courseKey: Name Damage | DPS | ExtDPS | ExtHPS - Sorted by ExtDPSZone Allies: (35:24) 28609729 | 13469.74 [Zyphius-Ball of Lava-50514] Ranger#1 3047455 | 1769.72 | 1434.77 | 0.00 Assassin 3015340 | 1661.34 | 1419.65 | 0.14 Necro#1 2968594 | 1683.83 | 1397.64 | 38.74 Swashy#1 2665410 | 1484.91 | 1254.90 | 0.00 Zyphius 2614832 | 1538.14 | 1231.09 | 1.33 Necro#2 2234382 | 1223.65 | 1051.97 | 23.64 Ranger#2 2083191 | 1189.04 | 980.79 | 2.04 Monk 1743035 | 977.04 | 820.64 | 6.99Now if wizards are so balanced... then [I cannot control my vocabulary] am I doing wrong here?? Sure, I parse in the top few, but I am CONSISTANTLY behind the Assassin, Ranger, and Swashy. Sometimes one of those three slack, and fall behind me, but I am RARELY on top. The whole night I only topped the parse one fight (on trash no less - excluding the one attempt on the third named above).</blockquote>lol okay lets take a few breathers. The #'s you put up are much improved over what you used to parse, remember those days?We need to identify how many aa's you have since you dont yet have manaburn which is a big jump in zone dps from the trash fights, and on short enough named fights a good sized chunk, also how much INT did you have buffed with vim?We also need to know how many aa's the ranger has and the necro/swash that are beating you. Truthfully you and the necro will be close in dps being in the same group, if you both got HL from the coercer, and equal buffage (both got vim ect) If he has lifeburn he will out parse you until you get manaburn (or unless you're a crazy mofo like renaven /boggle)The point i'm trying to make is the differences on your parse can be made up with manaburn, and put you right on the heel's of that #1 ranger on the zone parse, above everyone else. Seeing as how the ranger was grouped up with you what buffs was the troub playing? i'm sure he saccrificed a caster song for mele haste. so which one did he drop, I bet it was arias. thats another 4% dps from that buff, which would of helped put you closer to the swash, but you and the necro would both rise by the same margin.Also how was your hate managemnt? did you even get HL from the coercer? or did you just have the troub to work with? What kind of hate gain was on the tank? how many deaths did you have? were you able to go full burn on the 4 mob x3 epics? </blockquote> You don't need manaburn, or to be a crazy mofo like renevan (though..if you are, it helps <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) to make those parses <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Watch your timings. Frigid Gift+Ice Shape=own. Play around with differnet specs....cast your big nukes with the dispatch, if possible. That kind of thing. Also, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO PUSH LIMITS. Your guild might [Removed for Content] at you some for it, but push them. For example, Ice Nova/Fusion (depending) is normally the 3rd spell in my rotation, RIGHT after the pull. *shrugs* Play with it. You're getting there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Limoj

04-13-2007, 03:34 PM

After looking at some of the parses here being a monk...i want to drool and cry....you guys have created some animals!Gratz!

IllusiveThoughts

04-13-2007, 04:14 PM

Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>You don't need manaburn, or to be a crazy mofo like renevan (though..if you are, it helps <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) to make those parses <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Watch your timings. Frigid Gift+Ice Shape=own. Play around with differnet specs....cast your big nukes with the dispatch, if possible. That kind of thing. Also, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO PUSH LIMITS. Your guild might [I cannot control my vocabulary] at you some for it, but push them. For example, Ice Nova/Fusion (depending) is normally the 3rd spell in my rotation, RIGHT after the pull. *shrugs* Play with it. You're getting there <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>Of course you dont need manaburn, but he did say he's working down the powerline, and that can only mean he's working towards manaburn. Thus I responded to him accordingly.

Darien al'Staff

04-13-2007, 07:53 PM

Meh. Guess I should read closer <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Darien al'Staff

04-15-2007, 07:05 PM

Here's my parse for FTH. Not my best run :/ But still not bad. The rangers and warlock int he guild are all BEASTS too My group: Inquisitor Brigand Trouby Me Illusionist NOTE: This zonewide includes EVERYTHING, including the last two nameds. Allies:22:08|26945 Ranger1:2745 Warlock:2438 Wizard(Me!!):2224 Ranger2:2159 Swashy:2151 Conj:2029 Illusionist1:1736 Illusionist2:1687 This is the zonewide WITHOUT the last two nameds: Allies:31309 Ranger1:2895 Warlock:2895 (yes, they parsed the same <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) Wizard(Me!!):2577 Swashy:2453 Ranger2:2339 Conj:2277 Illusionist1:2003 Illusionist2:1915 Me: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=145522109" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...terId=145522109</a>

IllusiveThoughts

04-16-2007, 01:17 PM

Beeglin@Lucan DLere wrote: <blockquote>Here's my parse for FTH. Not my best run :/ But still not bad. The rangers and warlock int he guild are all BEASTS too My group: Inquisitor Brigand Trouby Me Illusionist NOTE: This zonewide includes EVERYTHING, including the last two nameds. Allies:22:08|26945 Ranger1:2745 Warlock:2438 Wizard(Me!!):2224 Ranger2:2159 Swashy:2151 Conj:2029 Illusionist1:1736 Illusionist2:1687 This is the zonewide WITHOUT the last two nameds: Allies:31309 Ranger1:2895 Warlock:2895 (yes, they parsed the same <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) Wizard(Me!!):2577 Swashy:2453 Ranger2:2339 Conj:2277 Illusionist1:2003 Illusionist2:1915 Me: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=145522109" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...terId=145522109</a> </blockquote>crazy zone wide dps for the raid. lots of 2k + dpser's very nice!

Zyphius

05-10-2007, 11:55 AM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>lol okay lets take a few breathers. The #'s you put up are much improved over what you used to parse, remember those days?YeaWe need to identify how many aa's you have since you dont yet have manaburn which is a big jump in zone dps from the trash fights, and on short enough named fights a good sized chunk, also how much INT did you have buffed with vim?82AA's - ~950 intel (VIM and rare Potion)We also need to know how many aa's the ranger has and the necro/swash that are beating you. No IdeaTruthfully you and the necro will be close in dps being in the same group, if you both got HL from the coercer, and equal buffage (both got vim ect) If he has lifeburn he will out parse you until you get manaburn (or unless you're a crazy mofo like renaven /boggle)I understand they will, but they shouldn't! When is SoE going to fix this??The point i'm trying to make is the differences on your parse can be made up with manaburn, and put you right on the heel's of that #1 ranger on the zone parse, above everyone else. But why? In the parses below you'll see a wiz with MB not beating me very often at all. He is decently equipped as well, with ~100AA's. I.E. MB doesn't seem to do much DPS wise.Seeing as how the ranger was grouped up with you what buffs was the troub playing? i'm sure he saccrificed a caster song for mele haste. so which one did he drop, I bet it was arias. thats another 4% dps from that buff, which would of helped put you closer to the swash, but you and the necro would both rise by the same margin.No Idea. I know he hate the hate management, crit chance, and spell haste up.Also how was your hate managemnt? did you even get HL from the coercer? or did you just have the troub to work with? What kind of hate gain was on the tank? how many deaths did you have? were you able to go full burn on the 4 mob x3 epics? I did have hate decrease from coecer. Aggro was of "little" concern. I went full burn most of the night. I didn't have too many deaths that I can recall, no more than normal.</blockquote>Yes, I am doing better, but I am very decently geared and mastered now (still got more to get, but much better than I used to be). My point, though, is why are necros and swashies beating me all the time (ok, not ALL the time, but they shouldn't be beating me at all, and are doing it WAY too often)? I don't mind rangers and [Removed for Content] beating me, but [Removed for Content], just about every fight too??Below are the parses from last night in LoA. I'm not as far down the list, but my DPS isn't much different... they others were just doing less (group makeup difference maybe?). The swashy that normally kicks my [Removed for Content] was on his warlock.. the swashy present is new and is still "gearing up".Anyway, my group: Necro, Ranger, Paly, Troub, Inquis, MeSeld buffed intel: 707 w/o potion. I had Troub deaggro and Amends. Hate was 0 concern. I went full burn most of the night. Ice Nova'ing within the first 3 spells, etc. (Ice Sheild, Frostbound Gift, Rendering Icicles, Freehand Sorcery, Ice Nova - almost every pull).Key:Name Damage | DPS | ExtDPS | Heals | ExtHPS | Max hitZone wide: Allies: (42:19) 35102354 | 13825.27 [Maiar-Manaburn-55283] Malachor 3614268 | 1559.22 | 1423.50 | 2 | 0.09 | [Sniper Shot-10418] Ranger Carbajal 3310652 | 1437.54 | 1303.92 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-19838] Assassin Zyphius 3268252 | 1407.52 | 1287.22 | 13 | 0.45 | [Fusion-23588] Me Neotap 3185929 | 1344.84 | 1254.80 | 748 | 29.24 | [Lifeburn-6347] Necro Hoddy 2773747 | 1304.07 | 1092.46 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-8793] Warlock Maiar 2653982 | 1241.92 | 1045.29 | 58 | 4.53 | [Manaburn-55283] Wizard Glisin 2377571 | 1095.66 | 936.42 | 41 | 4.96 | [Fusion-18450] Wizard Xxable 2197906 | 1029.95 | 865.66 | 217 | 9.97 | [Lifeburn-6213] Necro Saucyminx 1733065 | 781.72 | 682.58 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sinister Strike-4532] Swashy Essence of Fear Allies: (02:37) 2715058 | 17293.36 [Zyphius-Fusion-20579] Malachor 285796 | 1867.95 | 1820.36 | 2 | 1.50 | [Rain of Arrows-6508] Ranger Carbajal 257458 | 1705.02 | 1639.86 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-19838] Assassin Xxable 227919 | 1539.99 | 1451.71 | 40 | 28.93 | [Lifeburn-5961] Necro Neotap 227670 | 1507.75 | 1450.13 | 53 | 31.06 | [Abate Life-3261] Necro Hoddy 190456 | 1269.71 | 1213.10 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-6779] Warlcok Maiar 185889 | 1281.99 | 1184.01 | 13 | 4.64 | [Ice Nova-15569] Wizard Zyphius 172629 | 1150.86 | 1099.55 | 9 | 2.72 | [Fusion-20579] Me Glisin 146466 | 976.44 | 932.90 | 12 | 8.04 | [Fusion-16017] Wizard Saucyminx 134219 | 919.31 | 854.90 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dashing Swathe-2154] Swashy Gnillaw the Demented Allies: (03:30) 3113494 | 14826.16 [Zyphius-Fusion-23300] Malachor 307054 | 1512.58 | 1462.16 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sniper Shot-10418] Ranger Carbajal 290942 | 1447.47 | 1385.44 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-15453] Assassin Xxable 285214 | 1418.98 | 1358.16 | 55 | 36.18 | [Lifeburn-5961] Necro Neotap 279477 | 1350.13 | 1330.84 | 61 | 30.59 | [Lifeburn-6347] Necro Maiar 268142 | 1334.04 | 1276.87 | 16 | 3.35 | [Fusion-17042] Wizard Zyphius 263958 | 1313.22 | 1256.94 | 1 | 0.85 | [Fusion-23300] Me Hoddy 240321 | 1238.77 | 1144.39 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-8793] Warlock Glisin 208746 | 1081.59 | 994.03 | 3 | 2.77 | [Fusion-18450] Wizard Saucyminx 137817 | 714.08 | 656.27 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dashing Swathe-2930] Swashy This one I am not sure about... It doesn't look right to me. Gnorbl the Playful Allies: (05:42) 2144017 | 6269.06 [Maiar-Manaburn-55283] Zyphius 284660 | 860.00 | 832.34 | 2 | 1.04 | [Fusion-20936] Me Malachor 249139 | 880.35 | 728.48 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-6607] Ranger Hoddy 225407 | 727.12 | 659.08 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rift Slam-8108] Warlock Neotap 187433 | 578.50 | 548.05 | 52 | 15.86 | [Lifeburn-5360] Necro Maiar 182220 | 558.96 | 532.81 | 8 | 7.72 | [Manaburn-55283] Wizard Glisin 176630 | 553.70 | 516.46 | 12 | 20.14 | [Ice Nova-15419] Wizard Rigail 164833 | 570.36 | 481.97 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dispatch-2111] Brigand Carbajal 148469 | 474.34 | 434.12 | 0 | 0.00 | [Killing Blade-9534] Assassin Ralyssand 107198 | 317.15 | 313.44 | 0 | 0.00 | [Perfect Shrill-2167] Troub Vilucidae the Priest of Thule Allies: (04:41) 2875619 | 10233.52 [Maiar-Ice Nova-14805] Carbajal 313802 | 1132.86 | 1116.73 | 0 | 0.00 | [Killing Blade-9510] Assasin Malachor 304170 | 1126.56 | 1082.46 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-5349] Ranger Neotap 294238 | 1093.82 | 1047.11 | 123 | 48.00 | [Abate Life-3018] Necro Xxable 259540 | 961.26 | 923.63 | 12 | 2.95 | [Lifeburn-6213] Necro Hoddy 249393 | 927.11 | 887.52 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-6914] Warlock Zyphius 226777 | 824.64 | 807.04 | 0 | 0.00 | [Ice Nova-11931] Me Maiar 185307 | 678.78 | 659.46 | 3 | 1.98 | [Ice Nova-14805] Wizard Saucyminx 185117 | 688.17 | 658.78 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dashing Swathe-2568] Swashy Rigail 173377 | 632.76 | 617.00 | 0 | 0.00 | [Restrain-2423] Brigand Zone trash only: Allies: (25:49) 24312262 | 15695.46 [Zyphius-Fusion-23588] Malachor 2468109 | 1751.67 | 1593.36 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-7335] Ranger Zyphius 2320228 | 1699.80 | 1497.89 | 1 | 0.11 | [Fusion-23588] Me Carbajal 2299981 | 1689.92 | 1484.82 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-19445] Assasin Neotap 2197111 | 1549.44 | 1418.41 | 459 | 28.42 | [Abate Life-3821] Necro Hoddy 1868170 | 1551.64 | 1206.05 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-8678] Warlock Maiar 1832424 | 1537.27 | 1182.97 | 18 | 4.43 | [Fusion-18360] Wizard Glisin 1764618 | 1373.24 | 1139.20 | 12 | 2.19 | [Fusion-18365] Wizard Xxable 1377915 | 1165.75 | 889.55 | 87 | 6.66 | [Master's Strike-3387] Necro Saucyminx 1239440 | 915.39 | 800.16 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sinister Strike-4532] Swashy

IllusiveThoughts

05-24-2007, 07:12 PM

<cite>Zyphius wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>lol okay lets take a few breathers. The #'s you put up are much improved over what you used to parse, remember those days?YeaWe need to identify how many aa's you have since you dont yet have manaburn which is a big jump in zone dps from the trash fights, and on short enough named fights a good sized chunk, also how much INT did you have buffed with vim?82AA's - ~950 intel (VIM and rare Potion)We also need to know how many aa's the ranger has and the necro/swash that are beating you. No IdeaTruthfully you and the necro will be close in dps being in the same group, if you both got HL from the coercer, and equal buffage (both got vim ect) If he has lifeburn he will out parse you until you get manaburn (or unless you're a crazy mofo like renaven /boggle)I understand they will, but they shouldn't! When is SoE going to fix this??The point i'm trying to make is the differences on your parse can be made up with manaburn, and put you right on the heel's of that #1 ranger on the zone parse, above everyone else. But why? In the parses below you'll see a wiz with MB not beating me very often at all. He is decently equipped as well, with ~100AA's. I.E. MB doesn't seem to do much DPS wise.Seeing as how the ranger was grouped up with you what buffs was the troub playing? i'm sure he saccrificed a caster song for mele haste. so which one did he drop, I bet it was arias. thats another 4% dps from that buff, which would of helped put you closer to the swash, but you and the necro would both rise by the same margin.No Idea. I know he hate the hate management, crit chance, and spell haste up.Also how was your hate managemnt? did you even get HL from the coercer? or did you just have the troub to work with? What kind of hate gain was on the tank? how many deaths did you have? were you able to go full burn on the 4 mob x3 epics? I did have hate decrease from coecer. Aggro was of "little" concern. I went full burn most of the night. I didn't have too many deaths that I can recall, no more than normal.</blockquote>Yes, I am doing better, but I am very decently geared and mastered now (still got more to get, but much better than I used to be). My point, though, is why are necros and swashies beating me all the time (ok, not ALL the time, but they shouldn't be beating me at all, and are doing it WAY too often)? I don't mind rangers and [Removed for Content] beating me, but [I cannot control my vocabulary], just about every fight too??Below are the parses from last night in LoA. I'm not as far down the list, but my DPS isn't much different... they others were just doing less (group makeup difference maybe?). The swashy that normally kicks my [I cannot control my vocabulary] was on his warlock.. the swashy present is new and is still "gearing up".Anyway, my group: Necro, Ranger, Paly, Troub, Inquis, MeSeld buffed intel: 707 w/o potion. I had Troub deaggro and Amends. Hate was 0 concern. I went full burn most of the night. Ice Nova'ing within the first 3 spells, etc. (Ice Sheild, Frostbound Gift, Rendering Icicles, Freehand Sorcery, Ice Nova - almost every pull).Key:Name Damage | DPS | ExtDPS | Heals | ExtHPS | Max hitZone wide: Allies: (42:19) 35102354 | 13825.27 [Maiar-Manaburn-55283] Malachor 3614268 | 1559.22 | 1423.50 | 2 | 0.09 | [Sniper Shot-10418] Ranger Carbajal 3310652 | 1437.54 | 1303.92 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-19838] Assassin Zyphius 3268252 | 1407.52 | 1287.22 | 13 | 0.45 | [Fusion-23588] Me Neotap 3185929 | 1344.84 | 1254.80 | 748 | 29.24 | [Lifeburn-6347] Necro Hoddy 2773747 | 1304.07 | 1092.46 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-8793] Warlock Maiar 2653982 | 1241.92 | 1045.29 | 58 | 4.53 | [Manaburn-55283] Wizard Glisin 2377571 | 1095.66 | 936.42 | 41 | 4.96 | [Fusion-18450] Wizard Xxable 2197906 | 1029.95 | 865.66 | 217 | 9.97 | [Lifeburn-6213] Necro Saucyminx 1733065 | 781.72 | 682.58 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sinister Strike-4532] Swashy Essence of Fear Allies: (02:37) 2715058 | 17293.36 [Zyphius-Fusion-20579] Malachor 285796 | 1867.95 | 1820.36 | 2 | 1.50 | [Rain of Arrows-6508] Ranger Carbajal 257458 | 1705.02 | 1639.86 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-19838] Assassin Xxable 227919 | 1539.99 | 1451.71 | 40 | 28.93 | [Lifeburn-5961] Necro Neotap 227670 | 1507.75 | 1450.13 | 53 | 31.06 | [Abate Life-3261] Necro Hoddy 190456 | 1269.71 | 1213.10 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-6779] Warlcok Maiar 185889 | 1281.99 | 1184.01 | 13 | 4.64 | [Ice Nova-15569] Wizard Zyphius 172629 | 1150.86 | 1099.55 | 9 | 2.72 | [Fusion-20579] Me Glisin 146466 | 976.44 | 932.90 | 12 | 8.04 | [Fusion-16017] Wizard Saucyminx 134219 | 919.31 | 854.90 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dashing Swathe-2154] Swashy Gnillaw the Demented Allies: (03:30) 3113494 | 14826.16 [Zyphius-Fusion-23300] Malachor 307054 | 1512.58 | 1462.16 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sniper Shot-10418] Ranger Carbajal 290942 | 1447.47 | 1385.44 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-15453] Assassin Xxable 285214 | 1418.98 | 1358.16 | 55 | 36.18 | [Lifeburn-5961] Necro Neotap 279477 | 1350.13 | 1330.84 | 61 | 30.59 | [Lifeburn-6347] Necro Maiar 268142 | 1334.04 | 1276.87 | 16 | 3.35 | [Fusion-17042] Wizard Zyphius 263958 | 1313.22 | 1256.94 | 1 | 0.85 | [Fusion-23300] Me Hoddy 240321 | 1238.77 | 1144.39 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-8793] Warlock Glisin 208746 | 1081.59 | 994.03 | 3 | 2.77 | [Fusion-18450] Wizard Saucyminx 137817 | 714.08 | 656.27 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dashing Swathe-2930] Swashy This one I am not sure about... It doesn't look right to me. Gnorbl the Playful Allies: (05:42) 2144017 | 6269.06 [Maiar-Manaburn-55283] Zyphius 284660 | 860.00 | 832.34 | 2 | 1.04 | [Fusion-20936] Me Malachor 249139 | 880.35 | 728.48 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-6607] Ranger Hoddy 225407 | 727.12 | 659.08 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rift Slam-8108] Warlock Neotap 187433 | 578.50 | 548.05 | 52 | 15.86 | [Lifeburn-5360] Necro Maiar 182220 | 558.96 | 532.81 | 8 | 7.72 | [Manaburn-55283] Wizard Glisin 176630 | 553.70 | 516.46 | 12 | 20.14 | [Ice Nova-15419] Wizard Rigail 164833 | 570.36 | 481.97 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dispatch-2111] Brigand Carbajal 148469 | 474.34 | 434.12 | 0 | 0.00 | [Killing Blade-9534] Assassin Ralyssand 107198 | 317.15 | 313.44 | 0 | 0.00 | [Perfect Shrill-2167] Troub Vilucidae the Priest of Thule Allies: (04:41) 2875619 | 10233.52 [Maiar-Ice Nova-14805] Carbajal 313802 | 1132.86 | 1116.73 | 0 | 0.00 | [Killing Blade-9510] Assasin Malachor 304170 | 1126.56 | 1082.46 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-5349] Ranger Neotap 294238 | 1093.82 | 1047.11 | 123 | 48.00 | [Abate Life-3018] Necro Xxable 259540 | 961.26 | 923.63 | 12 | 2.95 | [Lifeburn-6213] Necro Hoddy 249393 | 927.11 | 887.52 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-6914] Warlock Zyphius 226777 | 824.64 | 807.04 | 0 | 0.00 | [Ice Nova-11931] Me Maiar 185307 | 678.78 | 659.46 | 3 | 1.98 | [Ice Nova-14805] Wizard Saucyminx 185117 | 688.17 | 658.78 | 0 | 0.00 | [Dashing Swathe-2568] Swashy Rigail 173377 | 632.76 | 617.00 | 0 | 0.00 | [Restrain-2423] Brigand Zone trash only: Allies: (25:49) 24312262 | 15695.46 [Zyphius-Fusion-23588] Malachor 2468109 | 1751.67 | 1593.36 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-7335] Ranger Zyphius 2320228 | 1699.80 | 1497.89 | 1 | 0.11 | [Fusion-23588] Me Carbajal 2299981 | 1689.92 | 1484.82 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-19445] Assasin Neotap 2197111 | 1549.44 | 1418.41 | 459 | 28.42 | [Abate Life-3821] Necro Hoddy 1868170 | 1551.64 | 1206.05 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-8678] Warlock Maiar 1832424 | 1537.27 | 1182.97 | 18 | 4.43 | [Fusion-18360] Wizard Glisin 1764618 | 1373.24 | 1139.20 | 12 | 2.19 | [Fusion-18365] Wizard Xxable 1377915 | 1165.75 | 889.55 | 87 | 6.66 | [Master's Strike-3387] Necro Saucyminx 1239440 | 915.39 | 800.16 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sinister Strike-4532] Swashy </blockquote>not sure why the other wiz wasn't able to pull ahead of you with MB it wasn't even on his zone wide(trash) as a high hit? When did he use it since it's not on any of the named parses, or in the combined trash only parse? For me when I got MB it gave me 8-12% more dps on zonewides, because I used it every fight it refreshed, it looks to me like the other wiz used it only once, or your parse data may be off. Also, you can see from lots of parse postings in here, that equal gear / aa's does not = same dps. player /raid set up defines that the most.The other thing is on Lyceum, there are a lot of AE fights, I usually opened with forge of ro, frigid gift, glacial winds, (if 4 or more) shocking flash, (if 3 or 2) fusion, pop on surge of flames, firestorm, glacial winds again, and usually one mob was dead then toss out ice nova and ST the off target firestorm again, rotate in bol ect.Lyceum is all about AE, opening with ice nova isn't the best thing to do unless its the single pulls.Also gnillaw is tough fight because of having to use ranged ae's (unless you have someoen calling his ae) which kinda limits forge of ro and firestorm, the key to good dps on him is getting in as much ae dps as you can before the add's die, to sustain you through the single target fight past the 2nd heal.gnorble do you guys ae him down or mez the adds?vulicide is a long drawn out fight, he always brings down zonewides, and his last stance is a dps killer. *** edit***NM I see the wizard used manaburn on one named, you cant expect to gain any dps from an ability like manaburn if you never use it, this leeds me to suspect the other wiz was slacking.***edit***

IllusiveThoughts

05-24-2007, 07:15 PM

btw I have to ask anyone still following this threaddid you find any info in here useful, or did you find it to just be an e.penery sort of bragging rights thread?

Wilko1981

05-25-2007, 06:26 AM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>btw I have to ask anyone still following this threaddid you find any info in here useful, or did you find it to just be an e.penery sort of bragging rights thread?</blockquote> As someone who has just come back to raiding their Wizard after raiding a Dirge for 4 months, I have got quite a lot of useful information from this, please keep it running. Some of it does verge on bragging but in amongst it are bits of really useful information, to me at least.

ggage

05-26-2007, 10:01 AM

cool, first time lookin at the wizard forums. Got this parse from a dps group fun run with some guildies.Veingore down! Allies: (00:48 ) 277401 | 5779.19 [Akarri-Manaburn-57575] Akarri 65955 | 1374.06 - Wizard Amoen 57619 | 1200.40 - Ranger Duris 55377 | 1153.69 - Swashbuckler Whyze 47839 | 996.65 - Ranger Terran 32735 | 681.98 - Monk Ehrr 17876 | 372.42 - Guardian Please note, ZERO HEALERS and only one group on an epicx2 mob =P He went down pretty quick, was kinda disapointing.Akarri-Nektulos server

Phaze11

05-27-2007, 01:24 AM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>btw I have to ask anyone still following this threaddid you find any info in here useful, or did you find it to just be an e.penery sort of bragging rights thread?</blockquote> I use the thread to see what other classes are doing and then go read their thread to see what my guildmates need to do to reach that potential. Otherwise its turned into "an e.penery" thing with most of you. Playing a wizard and winning the parse is good and fine, but finding out how to get that ranger and swashbuckler near my dps is more worthwhile for me.

Junaru

05-29-2007, 03:06 PM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>btw I have to ask anyone still following this threaddid you find any info in here useful, or did you find it to just be an e.penery sort of bragging rights thread?</blockquote> I found it to be nothing but Wizzy BRAGGING. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But I at least know what guild IllusiveThoughts is in. To bad my Monk wasn't raiding back when this thread came out I might have seem my name on the parses. BTW this is Tsukuwa from NOR.

iceriven2

05-29-2007, 04:16 PM

i found this thread helpful between the bragging of which ones is bigger there was some good pointers :p

IllusiveThoughts

05-30-2007, 01:07 AM

<cite>Junaru wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>btw I have to ask anyone still following this threaddid you find any info in here useful, or did you find it to just be an e.penery sort of bragging rights thread?</blockquote> I found it to be nothing but Wizzy BRAGGING. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But I at least know what guild IllusiveThoughts is in. To bad my Monk wasn't raiding back when this thread came out I might have seem my name on the parses. BTW this is Tsukuwa from NOR. </blockquote>you would of been mistaken, Our guild was indeed allied with NOR, but I was not a guild member of NOR.

ailees

05-30-2007, 02:32 AM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>did you find any info in here useful, or did you find it to just be an e.penery sort of bragging rights thread?</blockquote> I've been participating into this thread, and could improve my own DPS a lot. Of course it was months ago. Year even... Good ideas and examples showing also that the best way to be a high DPSer is to look at your own parse and casting way. Wizard anyway is very dependent on the group he's into. And also on the whole raid DPS. Our guild at her best has a 20K DPS average more or less ; it is good, but nothing to claim loud. I'm parsing Freethinker hideout a lot. My DPS varies with 50% depending on who I am with, and I can do nothing for it ! Yesterday I had both Time Compression and the Golden Rose. Nothing more, no pally... My equipment is not bad, rather average. In the first 5 mobs encounter I could parse as high as 3K (Firestorm and Glacial wind ...and fusion if I don't die after...) . zonewide : Allies: (41:0<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 42722914 | 17310,74 [Ailees-Manaburn-66290] Swashy : 3786154 | 1534,10 (bistird, he's always better than me, average, using very high intelligence to make deadly poisons) Ailees : 3467295 | 1404,90 (I also died 3 times due to agro, that's also a problem that we know) ... But, to come back to question, It is true that this thread is very often just a competition, or let's say an honour board, not giving much clue on how to obtain those high numbers, or how to increase your own DPS. Right now, I think I cannot do better that what I do, I would need better gear.

Zyphius

06-21-2007, 03:19 PM

<cite>IllusiveThoughts wrote:</cite><blockquote>not sure why the other wiz wasn't able to pull ahead of you with MB it wasn't even on his zone wide(trash) as a high hit? When did he use it since it's not on any of the named parses, or in the combined trash only parse? For me when I got MB it gave me 8-12% more dps on zonewides, because I used it every fight it refreshed, it looks to me like the other wiz used it only once, or your parse data may be off. Also, you can see from lots of parse postings in here, that equal gear / aa's does not = same dps. player /raid set up defines that the most.The other thing is on Lyceum, there are a lot of AE fights, I usually opened with forge of ro, frigid gift, glacial winds, (if 4 or more) shocking flash, (if 3 or 2) fusion, pop on surge of flames, firestorm, glacial winds again, and usually one mob was dead then toss out ice nova and ST the off target firestorm again, rotate in bol ect.Lyceum is all about AE, opening with ice nova isn't the best thing to do unless its the single pulls.Also gnillaw is tough fight because of having to use ranged ae's (unless you have someoen calling his ae) which kinda limits forge of ro and firestorm, the key to good dps on him is getting in as much ae dps as you can before the add's die, to sustain you through the single target fight past the 2nd heal.gnorble do you guys ae him down or mez the adds?vulicide is a long drawn out fight, he always brings down zonewides, and his last stance is a dps killer. *** edit***NM I see the wizard used manaburn on one named, you cant expect to gain any dps from an ability like manaburn if you never use it, this leeds me to suspect the other wiz was slacking.***edit***</blockquote> We mez Gnorbl, AE the hell out of his minions, then have a mezzer keep the ones that pop at bay while we burn him down.When I get home I will post our FTH parse from last night.

Dextera

06-21-2007, 04:55 PM

The primary problem of the thread lies in the fact that only parse numbers are displayed. This thread would be much more helpful if Wizards would post their dmg spread of each spell (the ACT pie chart) as well as the gear/buffs on the Wizard. This would allow people to see HOW exactly you're acheiving these numbers. Isn't that, after all, the purpose of this thread?

Zyphius

06-22-2007, 03:57 PM

This is a HoS raid from a few days ago... I took out the names out of respect since this was not my "normal" raiding crew...This was an off night. I know I parsed highes zone-wide, and I know I parsed highest in many more than usually fights. This particular post isn't about my parse position, just the numbers. I still seem to only hit between 1k and 1.5k.Zone: Allies: (01:08:54) 45252629 | 10946.45 [Assassin-Decapitate-22298] Zyphius 5252852 | 1499.10 | 1270.65 | 46 | 2.99 | [Ice Nova-22124] Warlock 5194506 | 1466.13 | 1256.53 | 38 | 2.85 | [Void Distortion-7826] Necro-1 4300241 | 1175.57 | 1040.21 | 1334 | 34.32 | [Abate Life-3729] Assassin 4193634 | 1277.77 | 1014.43 | 2 | 0.36 | [Decapitate-22298] Necro-2 4176415 | 1285.45 | 1010.26 | 1305 | 34.57 | [Lifeburn-5550] Necro-3 3476482 | 1113.54 | 840.95 | 730 | 20.31 | [Lifeburn-5610] Zone trash: Allies: (43:20) 28464511 | 10947.89 [Zyphius-Fusion-21265] Warlock 3471806 | 1537.56 | 1335.31 | 16 | 1.76 | [Void Distortion-7743] Zyphius 3467641 | 1557.79 | 1333.71 | 16 | 2.33 | [Fusion-21265] Necro-1 2802166 | 1212.01 | 1077.76 | 823 | 31.26 | [Abate Life-3558] Necro-2 2727258 | 1356.17 | 1048.95 | 686 | 25.02 | [Lifeburn-5338] Assassin 2548361 | 1286.40 | 980.14 | 1 | 0.23 | [Decapitate-18670] Necro-3 1943260 | 1042.52 | 747.41 | 452 | 19.02 | [Abate Life-3410] Shadowy Pres Allies: (02:46) 2237303 | 13477.73 [Assassin-Decapitate-16548] Warlock 235739 | 1520.90 | 1420.12 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-7826] Necro-3 231365 | 1455.13 | 1393.77 | 29 | 17.63 | [Abate Life-3260] Zyphius 223657 | 1415.55 | 1347.33 | 0 | 0.00 | [Fusion-14409] Assassin 218801 | 1420.79 | 1318.08 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-16548] Necro-2 216077 | 1385.11 | 1301.67 | 51 | 26.96 | [Lifeburn-5550] Necro-1 200114 | 1235.27 | 1205.51 | 4 | 2.14 | [Abate Life-3458] Overlord Allies: (04:02) 3061676 | 12651.55 [Zyphius-Ice Nova-22124] Zyphius 337909 | 1437.91 | 1396.32 | 1 | 0.74 | [Ice Nova-22124] Warlock 330086 | 1447.75 | 1363.99 | 2 | 5.65 | [Void Distortion-7570] Assassin 321373 | 1403.38 | 1327.99 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-13321] Necro-3 259739 | 1100.59 | 1073.30 | 27 | 16.72 | [Lifeburn-5048] Necro-1 233322 | 968.14 | 964.14 | 94 | 42.03 | [Abate Life-2696] Conjurer 197909 | 853.06 | 817.81 | 1 | 0.82 | [Sphere of Flames-1928] Charged Pres Allies: (03:19) 2378791 | 11953.72 [Assassin-Decapitate-16630] Assassin 288608 | 1585.76 | 1450.29 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-16630] Warlock 226047 | 1135.92 | 1135.92 | 4 | 7.14 | [Void Distortion-6561] Necro-1 222921 | 1155.03 | 1120.21 | 91 | 64.80 | [Abate Life-3250] Necro-2 200910 | 1174.91 | 1009.60 | 185 | 116.55 | [Abate Life-2471] Necro-3 191652 | 1076.70 | 963.08 | 42 | 29.76 | [Lifeburn-4727] Zyphius 148416 | 761.11 | 745.81 | 2 | 1.79 | [Ice Nova-11180] Pain Allies: (02:30) 2220678 | 14804.52 [Zyphius-Fusion-17805] Necro-3 316941 | 2401.07 | 2112.94 | 49 | 31.20 | [Lifeburn-5048] Zyphius 236979 | 1704.89 | 1579.86 | 0 | 0.00 | [Fusion-17805] Assassin 190853 | 1382.99 | 1272.35 | 0 | 0.00 | [Killing Blade-7660] Necro-2 184320 | 1385.87 | 1228.80 | 37 | 22.17 | [Abate Life-3170] Warlock 183852 | 1361.87 | 1225.68 | 0 | 0.00 | [Void Distortion-5359] Necro-1 174145 | 1261.92 | 1160.97 | 41 | 32.87 | [Abate Life-3533] Suffering Allies: (02:29) 2211048 | 14839.25 [Assassin-Decapitate-22298] Zyphius 244556 | 1838.77 | 1641.32 | 0 | 0.00 | [Fusion-16913] Necro-1 239874 | 1654.30 | 1609.89 | 50 | 26.42 | [Abate Life-3729] Warlock 237659 | 1773.58 | 1595.03 | 2 | 2.68 | [Void Distortion-7737] Necro-2 230663 | 1696.05 | 1548.07 | 29 | 20.59 | [Abate Life-3222] Assassin 207284 | 1513.02 | 1391.17 | 0 | 0.00 | [Decapitate-22298] Necro-3 142201 | 1137.61 | 954.37 | 17 | 16.08 | [Lifeburn-5048] Elemental Warder Allies: (01:12) 798272 | 11087.11 [Zyphius-Fusion-16080] Necro-3 117972 | 1685.31 | 1638.50 | 12 | 25.56 | [Lifeburn-5610] Warlock 86962 | 1260.32 | 1207.81 | 2 | 7.42 | [Void Absolution-5943] Necro-2 85628 | 1223.26 | 1189.28 | 18 | 68.04 | [Abate Life-2457] Zyphius 84914 | 1286.58 | 1179.36 | 4 | 9.81 | [Fusion-16080] Assassin 76314 | 1139.02 | 1059.92 | 0 | 0.00 | [Killing Blade-7840] Ranger 61672 | 963.63 | 856.56 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-4428] Ancient Bloodbeat (5 failed attempts combined) Allies: (05:20) 1409070 | 4403.34 [Zyphius-Ice Nova-10625] Zyphius 237236 | 1511.06 | 741.36 | 7 | 3.56 | [Ice Nova-10625] Warlock 136286 | 744.73 | 425.89 | 8 | 7.63 | [Void Distortion-6042] Necro-2 129492 | 634.76 | 404.66 | 62 | 38.04 | [Abate Life-2944] Ranger 123081 | 737.01 | 384.63 | 0 | 0.00 | [Sniper Shot-6994] Assassin 121665 | 593.49 | 380.20 | 1 | 2.82 | [Killing Blade-7059] Necro-1 110197 | 570.97 | 344.37 | 115 | 53.83 | [Abate Life-2673]

Zyphius

06-22-2007, 03:58 PM

Freethinkers on Wed. We were missing a few of our heavy hitters, so total DPS was too low and we didn't progress through Othysis.Zone Allies: (33:34) 27775923 | 13791.42 [Zyphius-Fusion-22614] Malachor 3842772 | 2026.78 | 1908.03 | 16 | 0.89 | [Rain of Arrows-8828] Zyphius 2814071 | 1531.88 | 1397.26 | 33 | 4.48 | [Fusion-22614] Brusse 2811907 | 1545.00 | 1396.18 | 4 | 0.26 | [Plunder-3288] Neotap 2764186 | 1522.97 | 1372.49 | 595 | 33.58 | [Lifeburn-7817] Dakman 2001155 | 1194.72 | 993.62 | 12 | 0.92 | [Decapitate-20901] Saucyminx 1908756 | 1097.62 | 947.74 | 23 | 2.75 | [Defiled Soul-3108]Zone Trash Allies: (14:27) 13212333 | 15239.14 [Zyphius-Fusion-22614] Malachor 1900000 | 2383.94 | 2191.47 | 0 | 0.00 | [Rain of Arrows-8828] Neotap 1308977 | 1669.61 | 1509.78 | 233 | 28.79 | [Lifeburn-7817] Brusse 1262893 | 1642.25 | 1456.62 | 0 | 0.00 | [Plunder-3282] Zyphius 1236087 | 1632.88 | 1425.71 | 16 | 4.97 | [Fusion-22614] Dakman 913458 | 1292.02 | 1053.59 | 3 | 0.45 | [Decapitate-18239] Saucyminx 897204 | 1230.73 | 1034.84 | 8 | 2.34 | [Dashing Swathe-3003]Zone Named: Allies: (19:07) 14573243 | 12705.53 [Luxx-Incinerate-21138] Malachor 1942772 | 1767.76 | 1693.79 | 16 | 1.56 | [Rain of Arrows-8640] Zyphius 1577984 | 1461.10 | 1375.75 | 17 | 4.11 | [Fusion-19113] Brusse 1549014 | 1473.85 | 1350.49 | 4 | 0.45 | [Plunder-3288] Neotap 1455209 | 1411.45 | 1268.71 | 362 | 37.20 | [Lifeburn-7386] Dakman 1087697 | 1123.65 | 948.30 | 9 | 1.28 | [Decapitate-20901] Saucyminx 1011552 | 1001.54 | 881.91 | 15 | 3.05 | [Defiled Soul-3108]Shredhead Allies: (04:21) 3207156 | 12287.95 [Zyphius-Fusion-17178] Malachor 458466 | 1797.91 | 1756.58 | 6 | 2.51 | [Rain of Arrows-8640] Zyphius 408007 | 1600.03 | 1563.25 | 1 | 0.68 | [Fusion-17178] Neotap 372408 | 1495.62 | 1426.85 | 33 | 17.90 | [Lifeburn-7238] Brusse 367019 | 1439.29 | 1406.20 | 0 | 0.00 | [Plunder-2589] Dakman 183664 | 740.58 | 703.69 | 3 | 2.31 | [Killing Blade-9704] Saucyminx 183318 | 733.27 | 702.37 | 1 | 0.94 | [Plunder-2564]Othysis (4 failed attempts combined) Allies: (14:46) 11366087 | 12828.54 [Luxx-Incinerate-21138] Malachor 1484306 | 1758.66 | 1675.29 | 10 | 1.28 | [Rain of Arrows-8289] Brusse 1181995 | 1484.92 | 1334.08 | 4 | 0.58 | [Plunder-3288] Zyphius 1169977 | 1418.15 | 1320.52 | 16 | 5.12 | [Fusion-19113] Neotap 1082801 | 1384.66 | 1222.12 | 329 | 42.89 | [Lifeburn-7386] Dakman 904033 | 1255.60 | 1020.35 | 6 | 0.98 | [Decapitate-20901] Saucyminx 828234 | 1089.78 | 934.80 | 14 | 3.67 | [Defiled Soul-3108]

IllusiveThoughts

06-22-2007, 05:44 PM

Dextera@Antonia Bayle wrote: <blockquote>The primary problem of the thread lies in the fact that only parse numbers are displayed. This thread would be much more helpful if Wizards would post their dmg spread of each spell (the ACT pie chart) as well as the gear/buffs on the Wizard. This would allow people to see HOW exactly you're acheiving these numbers. Isn't that, after all, the purpose of this thread?</blockquote> I used to have numerous pics of these but I took them all down due to bandwidth issues.

simpwrx02

06-25-2007, 11:47 AM

I wish I could just copy and paste the rows from ACT and give a quick breakdown of spell name damage and % of total damage. It woudl do the same as the pie chart but with much less bandwidth issues. With enough proc gear and using a lot of our spells it would simply take to long to transcribe all of this by "hand"On a bright side I have been trying to use fusion as much as possible and it has bumped up my dps by a few points <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Went from about 8-12 uses per zone to around 20 or more depending on time in zone, used it 47 times last night during guilds 3 hour segment through EH went from tender to herald. Guild failed second floor challenge <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so lots of brownie fights and I am still reluctant to use fusion to early and normally wait to long to get full use out of it, also we have 2 tanks tanking them so they are sometimes seperated during my fusion casting due to thier crazy knockbacks.On the bright side the early pages of this thread helped me a lot in refineing my cast order, as I am still to lazy to make an effective dps spread sheet for all of my spells.

Zyphius

06-28-2007, 12:16 AM

This is sad and depressing: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=199737&post_id=2203301#2203301" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...2203301#2203301</a>By Lockeye's own parse, wizards are being beat by rangers, assasins, conjurers, brigands, berzerkers, and if he had a necro in that rad we all know they would have been on top too.And what does SoE do? Nerf us even more with the [Removed for Content] Wis line nerf.

Supernova17

06-28-2007, 03:15 AM

I would just like to point out that thread linked above is almost a year old. Zyphius, your Conjuror is slackin btw! =P

Zyphius

06-28-2007, 08:44 AM

Yea, I know it's really old, it's just the fact that even the devs parses show classes beating us that shouldn't be, consistantly too, and they still haven't fixed us, or the problem... they just keep nerfing us and it's getting OLD.

Supernova17

06-28-2007, 07:36 PM

He never said it was a Dev parse, just a raid he joined on his server. And why shouldn't some classes out damage you? The only rule is what a person can do, and what they can't.

Zyphius

06-29-2007, 06:33 PM

And... uhhh... he was a dev... duh.What part of that did you miss?

Supernova17

06-30-2007, 02:58 AM

<blockquote>I raided this weekend and using a local parser and the Ranger in the raid used their parser. Many times, the Ranger’s parses of their own performance were higher than what my parser indicated Take the following Halls of Seeing raid I went on with a grain of salt</blockquote> Sounds to me like this is a pickup raid in which he doesn't know anyone, due to how he refers to both. Are you amazed that some Developers actually play this game? They don't have the time for hardcore raiding or anything, but can still manage to scrape together a 70 and going pickup raiding etc. It doesn't matter anyway, the thread is a year old and has no relevance to the present. Get off your crutch of DPS Tiers which were admitted to be a mistake and the lore of the class you hide behind. Open your eyes and see that this is just a game of mechanics, player skill, reaction time, timing, problem solving, equipment upgrades and more, and there is nothing preventing anyone from beating other classes and vice versa in DPS. As far as this game is concerned, sky's the limit. There is no magical barrier between classes. If I want to out damage you, I can. If you want to out damage me, you can. You just have to strike a balance between the aforementioned parts of the game. You have to ride the line between maximum damage potential and pulling aggro which is never solid or straight, but always shifting from fight to fight, minute to minute, second to second and it is the players that sense where the line lies and can combine all the parts of the game well enough, that will be the ones doing the most damage.

IllusiveThoughts

06-30-2007, 05:46 PM

<cite>Supernova17 wrote:</cite><blockquote><blockquote>I raided this weekend and using a local parser and the Ranger in the raid used their parser. Many times, the Ranger’s parses of their own performance were higher than what my parser indicated Take the following Halls of Seeing raid I went on with a grain of salt</blockquote> Sounds to me like this is a pickup raid in which he doesn't know anyone, due to how he refers to both. Are you amazed that some Developers actually play this game? They don't have the time for hardcore raiding or anything, but can still manage to scrape together a 70 and going pickup raiding etc. It doesn't matter anyway, the thread is a year old and has no relevance to the present. Get off your crutch of DPS Tiers which were admitted to be a mistake and the lore of the class you hide behind. Open your eyes and see that this is just a game of mechanics, player skill, reaction time, timing, problem solving, equipment upgrades and more, and there is nothing preventing anyone from beating other classes and vice versa in DPS. As far as this game is concerned, sky's the limit. There is no magical barrier between classes. If I want to out damage you, I can. If you want to out damage me, you can. You just have to strike a balance between the aforementioned parts of the game. You have to ride the line between maximum damage potential and pulling aggro which is never solid or straight, but always shifting from fight to fight, minute to minute, second to second and it is the players that sense where the line lies and can combine all the parts of the game well enough, that will be the ones doing the most damage. </blockquote> thanks for your input.Its a load of crap, but nice try. Sorcerors agro issues has been around since F'ing T5 raiding. Honestly as a conjuror can you really sit back and say that if a sorceror wants to out damage you he can? [Removed for Content], its not like i can conjure up 70% hate reduction on the fly and say ooh I think i'm going to beat class X on this parse because I feel like it. Thats the most narrowminded outlook on this game possible. This game is so far from being like that I have no idea why you even bothered to state it.Now, I have no issues (unlike other sorc) with summoners and preds equaling our dps just so you know where I stand on the whole DPS debacle, but I have ALWAYS had a problem with requiring 5 classes to allow me to deal max dps and requiring at least 3 classes to give me respectable dps. Interdependancy's on raids are okay when its 1 or two classes max, but needing 5??? thats just [Removed for Content].

Supernova17

07-01-2007, 01:17 AM

That I can understand. All I need is a Troubador and I'm gtg, everything else is a bonus for dps. Btw, I was a backup Warlock in T5 for my raid guild since we had 3 Templars and I was the new guy and not always needed as a healer. I know all about the aggro issues =P

TheBu

07-03-2007, 11:40 AM

might we get a new parse thread going? or somemore parses with int, Troubador, vim,Time Compression, or synergisim. would be cool if they posted what proc ing gear they had also. moca AA: wis,fire&ice [mystical orb,grizzle]I been asked to start playing my wiz some more.. and well the rangers, scouts and summeners are all above me now.. It def not the same for my wiz when they wer top dog before eof. so it would be nice to see the the new parses with the brainstorm mod they did.

Nastharl

07-03-2007, 11:42 AM

buffs is all thats relevent. You can check eq2players for gear listings.

Zyphius

07-05-2007, 09:10 AM

<cite>TheBuzZ wrote:</cite><blockquote>might we get a new parse thread going? or somemore parses with int, Troubador, vim,Time Compression, or synergisim. would be cool if they posted what proc ing gear they had also. moca AA: wis,fire&ice [mystical orb,grizzle]I been asked to start playing my wiz some more.. and well the rangers, scouts and summeners are all above me now.. It def not the same for my wiz when they wer top dog before eof. so it would be nice to see the the new parses with the brainstorm mod they did.</blockquote> I'll say again... they have NEVER been "top dog", and at the current rate, never will be.

TheBu

07-16-2007, 12:09 PM

Dont think i have seen any new parses in here after the update.. Please post. my wiz mostly mastered,73 aas:AA wis, fire & ice: slackin on adorns: 2 wrists.invoker orb and griz. my group fury and trub No vim. wiz#1 in my group has manaburn and vim.conj parsed it... Lyceum of Abhorrence Allies: (30:06) 35796587 19820.92 [Wiz-Manaburn-81035] class Damage ext DPS Biggest Hit Conj 3001669 1662.05 [Master's Strike-3872] Assassin2941567 1628.78 [Decapitate-23273] Swashy 2864689 1586.21 [Sinister Strike-4134] Necro 2664056 1475.11 [Lifeburn-6101] Ranger 2638517 1460.97 [Sniper Shot-11160/18] wiz#1 2581951 1429.65 [Manaburn-81035] My wiz 2364577 1309.29 [Fusion-22878] Bruiser 2295912 1271.27 [Kidney Punch-3524] Berserker 2256419 1249.4 [Berserker Onslaught-3002] Warlock 1987937 1100.74 [Void Distortion-8358] brig 68 1809741 1002.07 [Ruinous Rake-2552] monk 1427083 790.19 [Soaring Eagle-2565] mt 1371731 759.54 [Flay-4293]We rushed tru like allways. Do some raids wait so they can cast ther 1m procs on each raid? I would think that would help alot.My curent thinking is each procing gear may give around 25 dps? and each crits would add 1.3% What should i be pushing for 2k?at least 1500? Well i like to see some more parses please..

TheGReddy

07-17-2007, 01:35 AM

Im also parsing about that much when i have a Trouby and no vim. Also have 79 AAs and about the same AA lines as you. Info would be great!

Dextera

07-17-2007, 02:39 AM

Zone: Freethinkers Hideout (Avatar spawned while we were blowing up walls, so we left before Treyloth.)Date: 7/16/07Group: Wizard (Me), Wizard, Wizard, Troubador, Illusionist, Templar (Nobody had Time Compression, we were having a parse-off, lol.)Buffs: Syn/Troub/BlessingsGear: <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/characters/character_profile.vm?characterId=791499104" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">EQ2Players</a>AAs: AGI/WIS, Heat/Cold[Name] [Damage] | [ExtDPS] | [Crits] [Damage%] Zonewide: (18:44) 26246102 | 23350.63 Dextera 2531693 | 2252 | (361) 9% Wizard 2354458 | 2095 | (665) 8% Wizard 2280938 | 2029 | (169) 8% Assassin 2205164 | 1962 | (943) 8% Conjuror 1919368 | 1708 | (332) 7% Warlock 1917956 | 1706 | (236) 7% Warlock 1712406 | 1523 | (400) 6% Ranger 1462426 | 1301 | (535) 5% Illusionist 1379898 | 1228 | (557) 5% Brigand 1358961 | 1209 | (325) 5% Zylphax the Shredder: (02:05) 3399256 | 27194.05 Wizard 302259 | 2418 | (77) 8% Dextera 295873 | 2367 | (72) 8% Wizard 258389 | 2067 | (23) 7% Assassin 251081 | 2009 | (116) 7% Ranger 223961 | 1792 | (64) 6% Brigand 219542 | 1756 | (55) 6% Conjuror 217708 | 1742 | (77) 6% Warlock 217687 | 1741 | (27) 6% Illusionist 212013 | 1696 | (88) 6% Warlock 186546 | 1492 | (37) 5% Othysis Muravian: (02:26) 2773737 | 18998.20 Dextera 393664 | 2696 | (56) 14% Wizard 388187 | 2659 | (99) 13% Wizard 357471 | 2448 | (19) 12% Assassin 342161 | 2344 | (152) 12% Warlock 201154 | 1378 | (44) 7% Templar 192831 | 1321 | (96) 6% Berzerker 134143 | 919 | (3) 4% Troubador 119766 | 820 | (16) 4% Guardian 116010 | 795 | (16) 4% Ranger 111157 | 761 | (49) 4% The four mob encounters (Warlocks were moved into my group in place of Wizard* and I.) These are done with no Troubador/Templar, but instead a Mystic.Allies: (00:54) 1895962 | 35110.41 Warlock 238663 | 4420 | (42) 12% Wizard 213128 | 3947 | (81) 11% Warlock 213057 | 3946 | (65) 11% Dextera 160319 | 2969 | (17) 8% Conjuror 132115 | 2447 | (8) 6% Assassin 131355 | 2433 | (61) 6% Wizard* 108860 | 2016 | (0) 5% Illusionist 95029 | 1760 | (49) 5% Bruiser 84598 | 1567 | (30) 4% Berzerker 84253 | 1560 | (8) 4% Allies: (01:03) 1910788 | 30329.97 Warlock 254133 | 4034 | (53) 13% Warlock 215537 | 3421 | (62) 11% Wizard 172916 | 2745 | (76) 9% Dextera 162777 | 2584 | (3) 8% Assassin 139780 | 2219 | (75) 7% Conjuror 120822 | 1918 | (6) 6% Illusionist 119833 | 1902 | (47) 6% Wizard* 111374 | 1768 | (2) 5% Berzerker 94675 | 1503 | (17) 4% Troubador 82308 | 1306 | (12) 4%