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Old 06-17-2010, 07:39 PM   #1
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For the love of god - GROUP UP! I have seen far too many situations where Q's has been owning us, simply due to the fact that they are grouped up, even though they are not guilded! Seriously - how difficult is it to understand that grouped ppl > solo ppl. Why miss out the group buffs? The focus fire?

I'm writing this, simply because I've had enough of seeing ppl, usually 10+ in numbers, run around solo, and yet fail to group up. Try it... I swear that you will win much more often and get those tokens.

Just letting out some steam - feel free to rant, even though deep down inside you know that I am right SMILEY

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Old 06-17-2010, 08:08 PM   #2
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Most of us hate each other to much to grp with other people from other guilds: part of the whole dark evil persona complex we have.

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Old 06-17-2010, 08:16 PM   #3
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For the love of god - GROUP UP! I have seen far too many situations where Q's has been owning us, simply due to the fact that they are grouped up, even though they are not guilded! Seriously - how difficult is it to understand that grouped ppl > solo ppl. Why miss out the group buffs? The focus fire?

Perhaps it's because once you're grouped then if/when you die until the entire group is free from PvP you just lie there, dead, crumpled like a rag doll on the ground, watching helplessly as PvP occurs all around you unable to rez while the Q's run around and enjoy themselves ... while you just lie there ... dead, but in a group!

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Old 06-17-2010, 09:43 PM   #4
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Most freeps are just as bad as all the pansy ***** q scum, Im just not allowed to attack them.

Anyone who I dont know has my back is just a liability.  A couple extra random people arent going to make a difference standing and fighting against 5:1 odds, if they cant stay ahead of the q tide they just make me kill myself trying to save their lousy behind from the oncoming horde.

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Old 06-17-2010, 10:11 PM   #5
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zyllith wrote:

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For the love of god - GROUP UP! I have seen far too many situations where Q's has been owning us, simply due to the fact that they are grouped up, even though they are not guilded! Seriously - how difficult is it to understand that grouped ppl > solo ppl. Why miss out the group buffs? The focus fire?

Perhaps it's because once you're grouped then if/when you die until the entire group is free from PvP you just lie there, dead, crumpled like a rag doll on the ground, watching helplessly as PvP occurs all around you unable to rez while the Q's run around and enjoy themselves ... while you just lie there ... dead, but in a group!

You kinda missed my point in a grp you obviously have a higher survivability chance than being solo vs grp. That's my point, and that's why I would love to see more freeps grouping up. The keyword in your post would be the "IF you die" thing.. SMILEY

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Old 06-17-2010, 10:13 PM   #6
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[email protected] wrote:

Most freeps are just as bad as all the pansy ***** q scum, Im just not allowed to attack them.

Anyone who I dont know has my back is just a liability.  A couple extra random people arent going to make a difference standing and fighting against 5:1 odds, if they cant stay ahead of the q tide they just make me kill myself trying to save their lousy behind from the oncoming horde.

I beg to difer - those very scarce random grps Ive been in, have been quite good in pvp actually. Unfortunately, the groups are TOO scarce SMILEY and Im not talking odds 5:1 only. But also in WFP for example... where it is 1:1 ratio, and yet, the freeps gets their [Removed for Content] kicked by a well-oiled grp, simply due to the fact that the freeps doesnt focus fire / groups up.

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Old 06-17-2010, 11:50 PM   #7
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[email protected] wrote:

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Most freeps are just as bad as all the pansy ***** q scum, Im just not allowed to attack them.

Anyone who I dont know has my back is just a liability.  A couple extra random people arent going to make a difference standing and fighting against 5:1 odds, if they cant stay ahead of the q tide they just make me kill myself trying to save their lousy behind from the oncoming horde.

I beg to difer - those very scarce random grps Ive been in, have been quite good in pvp actually. Unfortunately, the groups are TOO scarce and Im not talking odds 5:1 only. But also in WFP for example... where it is 1:1 ratio, and yet, the freeps gets their [Removed for Content] kicked by a well-oiled grp, simply due to the fact that the freeps doesnt focus fire / groups up.

Tbh I've yet to see freeps "get their [Removed for Content] kicked" in wfp.  It basically always ends up being 2:1 or 3:1 odds of random people swarming in for updates with an epic guard in the mix before a solid stacked q group dies, but I can honestly say I've never been there to see combat end and q's still be standing in wfp.

As soon as you step out of the city gates, the odds swing massively in the other direction as you walk into the swarm of q's circling between the towers.  Some random pug group isnt going to survive for the same reason that random q pug groups dont go into freeport.

With the current mechanics and the multiple sk's in each pvp group, no group v group fight is going to end quickly unless its massively lopsided.  Any fight that lasts longer than 2 minutes is going to involve fighting every q who is online because they all get called in to help any time a q spots a freep. (note that this didnt happen back in the day when you actually had to share tokens with the other people who got the kill instead of magically duping hundreds of them out of thin air by killing one group)

Therefore freeps either roll in a guild group that can quickly burn the gimper q groups or as solos who can quickly burn the gimper solo q's while avoiding the massive zerg swarm of 9534925 q sk's.

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Old 06-18-2010, 02:49 AM   #8
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watch this.. I can get this thread locked.... LAG!

Okay but on a more serious note, im not going out into CL until this insane lag is fixed, it is NOT FUN! Not even a little bit, im not going to go out and PVP in a group or solo when i have a 4 second spell delay.  I want to go out in my group of friends and hold our ground (we have a very solid little group) but Im not doing it in this lag.  We usually end up queing for BG's, not because we like BGs more than traditional open world PVP, but because BGs are lag free, and playing that is WAY more fun.

Im sorry, Id love to come out and fight you, but I cant bring myself to do it, certainly you understand, you are out in the lag too, you just must have a better stomach for it that I do, and power to ya for it.

But the lag is making my experience worse, and thus making yours worse as well.

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Old 06-18-2010, 06:47 AM   #9
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TBH I just betrayed to Q side, you could never even get an invite 70% of the time just to zone in to a locked out instance just to help out, seems freeps are their own worse enemy.

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Old 06-18-2010, 06:48 AM   #10
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Tbh I've yet to see freeps "get their [Removed for Content] kicked" in wfp.  It basically always ends up being 2:1 or 3:1 odds of random people swarming in for updates with an epic guard in the mix before a solid stacked q group dies, but I can honestly say I've never been there to see combat end and q's still be standing in wfp.

You sir havn't gone in there much then...... 

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Old 06-18-2010, 12:57 PM   #11
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kaiserbob wrote:

TBH I just betrayed to Q side, you could never even get an invite 70% of the time just to zone in to a locked out instance just to help out, seems freeps are their own worse enemy.

Yes, the q's are much better at exploiting an unintended mechanic to flood a zone.

Absurd lag just makes the side with the most players win every time.  No wonder the q's dont care if they grind the server to a halt.

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Old 06-18-2010, 01:40 PM   #12
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HOLY GOD YOU NEED A LEADER.....

Many of fps good players has went to qeynos to be a newbie

Pay me 1000 plat and you will get  Hartsia as your leader to Freepot and i of coursewill level up

lvl 90

Hartsia the best wizard on server.

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Old 06-19-2010, 05:03 AM   #13
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:53 AM   #14
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[email protected] wrote:

Most of us hate each other to much to grp with other people from other guilds: part of the whole dark evil persona complex we have.

While Vlah may be joking to some extent, many of us feel this way.  There are far too many *insert bad word here*'s, on both sides i'm sure, that I would rather be solo or stick with a friend or two than join a random PvP group.

The few that I decided to join, were pretty much all over the place, and it didn't matter so much that we were even grouped.

And those betraying to Qeynos don't make the situation any better.  Then again, we don't all have friends in game that keep us grounded, and keep us from betraying.  I made the mistake once... it's a boring game without your friends.

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Old 06-19-2010, 12:55 PM   #15
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zyllith wrote:

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For the love of god - GROUP UP! I have seen far too many situations where Q's has been owning us, simply due to the fact that they are grouped up, even though they are not guilded! Seriously - how difficult is it to understand that grouped ppl > solo ppl. Why miss out the group buffs? The focus fire?

Perhaps it's because once you're grouped then if/when you die until the entire group is free from PvP you just lie there, dead, crumpled like a rag doll on the ground, watching helplessly as PvP occurs all around you unable to rez while the Q's run around and enjoy themselves ... while you just lie there ... dead, but in a group!

Apparently I missed the update where only level 90 players can give and recieve rez's in pvp.

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Old 06-19-2010, 01:22 PM   #16
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kaiserbob wrote:

TBH I just betrayed to Q side, you could never even get an invite 70% of the time just to zone in to a locked out instance just to help out, seems freeps are their own worse enemy.

Nice, another exploiter outed on the forums!  I will find it amusing if you get stripped and made to dance for cheating the lockout rules SOE put in place.

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Old 06-19-2010, 08:58 PM   #17
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Of course, no one would have to "cheat" if Sony made it so that if WFs were up in one instance then they are up in all instances of said zone. No other way to participate, due to each individual instance having it's own timer for when WFs will spawn.

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