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Old 05-26-2010, 06:34 PM   #1
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ive done about 9 warfields since they came out about half of them i didnt get no tokens and its happening to alot of people on vox this needs to be looked into

if anyone else is having issues please post or petition so they can get this fixed asap i dont like spending 30 mins for nothing

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Old 05-26-2010, 07:08 PM   #2
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I have experienced this twice today.  On both occasions I spent more than 20 minutes either defending a tower (aka watching no one attack it) or helping kill the tower guards.

*Edit: My petition was just updated.  The following is part of the response:

"Please be aware the player must receive a special flagging to be eligible for rewards. If you are not flagged when the match ends, you will not be granted with any tokens. Sadly I can not give you any further information on how to ensure you are flagged at the end of the match. I can only suggest to test some things out and ask others for tips."

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Old 05-26-2010, 07:38 PM   #3
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Late last night I tried to update a writ before logging out - attacked some Qs and died taking one down with me - I was happy to see 3 names added to my /recent list, but I received no writ updates.  I deleted my writ and tried a fresh one to see if quest bugged out, but I didn't have time to find out before I logged.

Apparently this no-writ updating also happened to others but I do not know their details.

I'll keep an eye out for this when I log back in tonight, but if the no-updates & no-Tokens is to be the rule of the game for open-pvp, then I'll just go and play lag-free in the BeeGees.

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Old 05-26-2010, 07:48 PM   #4
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I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.

In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. 

If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  

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Old 05-26-2010, 07:55 PM   #5
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Olihin wrote:

I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.

In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match.

If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event. 

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Hmm...this is almost akin to the way it was on test when you could stand afk, immune on the dock and get tokens just for being in the zone. All one has to do is make sure they get in within 2 minutes left and barely, if any, contribute to get full token credit.

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Old 05-26-2010, 08:03 PM   #6
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Brigh wrote:

Olihin wrote:

I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.

In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match.

If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event. 

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Hmm...this is almost akin to the way it was on test when you could stand afk, immune on the dock and get tokens just for being in the zone. All one has to do is make sure they get in within 2 minutes left and barely, if any, contribute to get full token credit.

Which is hardly different then not contributing the whole time. The biggest draw of the warfields is completing writs. There is always going to be people who do the minimum to get rewards. 

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Old 05-26-2010, 09:17 PM   #7
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Olihin wrote:

I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.

In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. 

If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  

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Make sure i enter the towers?

 Ok no problem you make sure that the towers render when i am near them and i will try to enter them.

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Old 05-26-2010, 09:25 PM   #8
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I have done several Defense battles and have never got a reward. Each time I have actively killed multiple enemies both while in and out of the tower. Each time I make sure I am standing directly inside the tower at the 10 minute mark. I even show up 15 minutes BEFORE the event starts.

None of these has helped me. SOE's reply to my petition was that I need to be in the tower, even though I make it clear I was in it.

In addition, both Antonica and Commonlands have the events are nearly the same time. A simple server restart should fix this, but that seems to be too hard for SOE to do.

Don't bother putting in a petition, the replies are all cut and paste and uninformative while treating me like im an idiot. Furthermore, SOE will not compensate their customer's time from their own programming failure.

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Old 05-27-2010, 09:49 AM   #9
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got to a cl event with 25 min left went into a tower delt with lag and no tokens at the end although some in chat said they got tokens

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Old 05-27-2010, 09:59 AM   #10
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Olihin wrote:

I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.

In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. 

If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  

Olihin

I have stood in, around, on and inside the walls of the towers and I only get credit 50% of the time. This is with killing people each time.

There is only one thing worse than rewarding people for not doing anything, and thats not rewarding people who do.

Right now its a crap shoot on if you get credit or not, stand in and around the towers have nothing to do with it, because each time I didnt get tokens I was inside the freakn towers each time and not for 5min either Im talkn 15-20min of standing in and around the tower and still no credit 50% of the time.

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Old 05-27-2010, 10:48 AM   #11
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I don't know what everyone is complaining about, Warfields are doing exactly what the devs wanted them to do...

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Old 05-27-2010, 11:03 AM   #12
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By that do you mean they want them to not work Hork?

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Old 05-27-2010, 11:41 AM   #13
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Massive lagg broke rewards  invisible rules we are not allowed to know  atleast it succeeded in gettin scrubs out of the betagrinds

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Old 05-27-2010, 02:34 PM   #14
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Teufell wrote:

By that do you mean they want them to not work Hork?

Hey, I can't read their minds!  I'm just quoting Olithin.  They are doing exactly what he wanted them to do.

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Old 05-27-2010, 03:09 PM   #15
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crumpledmonkey wrote:

Olihin wrote:

I will be adding a visual spell effect that should help let you know if you have the flag needed to get credit.

In the meantime, please make sure to enter the towers when the event is active.   You should be able to tell if the event is active when the Tower Guardians are up.   At the same time, the flag is temporary so make sure you check back in during the match. 

If you come show up with only 5 minutes left in the event, the towers stop granting the flag.   I will change this as well to be 2 minutes left in the event.  

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Make sure i enter the towers?

 Ok no problem you make sure that the towers render when i am near them and i will try to enter them.

lol. That's exactly what I was thinking when I read that.

Can't recall the last time it took that long for something to render, even at SF launch when Paineel was a bit dodgy.

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Old 05-27-2010, 03:33 PM   #16
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played 3 warfields yesterday, zero reward on all of them.... SMILEY

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Old 05-27-2010, 03:38 PM   #17
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Last night I went to WFP CL tower to help defend - my track window was filled with names, but no one was rendering. 

I was getting hit by AEs in an empty field!  I ran in circles hoping to slow down my murder from invisible foes, and after about 20-30s of circling, some people slowly started to show up, floating a little off the ground - apparently, they were inside the invisible tower in a slightly raised area.

I continued to run in circles around and through the invisible tower (HAXXORS!!!1one!!), and slowly more people started to render.

When I finally died due to AEs from players I couldn't see, I remained to see how much longer it would take for the tower to finally show up on my client.  It took roughly another 30s before I finally saw the rotten thing pop up.  I almost didn't revive because I couldn't be sure if it would render for me once I returned after rez sickness wore off, but I took that chance.

I returned to the tower that was finally visible, and started to try to defend - 5-10s spell lag really sucks.  I died, naturally, with no writ updates.  Rinse, lag and repeat.  On my fourth attempt attempt to defend, the tower died and I finally got 5 Tokens for not being able to successfully defend towers that I couldn't see!  yay!

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Old 05-27-2010, 04:00 PM   #18
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My suggestion would be to make a large circle around each tower that sets the flag instead of having to try and enter a tower that isn't there. Its bad enough to have to deal with spell lag but to not get credit for it because of things happening we have no control over is kind of ridiculous.

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I ask this with the utmost respect atleast  as much as i feel you deserve but olithin honestly have you ever played this game, interacted with the warfields,  know what pvp is in general? Entering the towers no matter how much you destroy or defend does not seem to even try to flag us its completely random if we get rewards at all lol even the pvp writs are spotty atm. The lag is another issue we feedbacked for ages that the server couldnt handle the load even after the   server upgrade that supposedly happened which ive never noticed any change so  that could of been a lie for all i know. We feedbacked dureing testing also that the rewards where broke and still are  that was never adressed or if it was it was futile as nothing has changed the towers still do not render properly nor do most of the combatants as a previous poster stated. We pay for a product that gets spotty support granted you are not forceing us to pay but lol we might aswell pay somone to stomp our  toe for the amount of feedback that gets listened to.   

/rant off  just another disgruntled customer 

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Old 05-27-2010, 06:24 PM   #20
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5 Times in Ant only got 5 tokens for a Antonica win should have been 15 tokens. The other 4 times I didnt get anything. All 5 times I killed freeps and hung out near the towers and I was in Ant at the start of each battle.

5 Times in CL and only got tokens 1 time. All 5 times I destroyed the guardians.

What am I doing wrong? Please, fix this part of the game fast before you kill it.

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Old 05-27-2010, 06:38 PM   #21
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Three things to do in a Warfield to POSSIBLY get tokens:

1. Hail guardians around a tower and the one inside.

2. Circle the tower several times at various distances.

3. And most importantly, set your graphics performance high enough to render the towers/guardians.

I wasn't getting flagged before (hence no tokens), and it seems i am now. I've recieved tokens the last 4 rounds ive done.

Am I sure this will work for all? NO. I make no guarantees, just suggestions.

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Old 05-27-2010, 08:22 PM   #22
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Huge fight in CL at WFP, and not long after the 10 minute remaining broadcast, the zone crashes.

lol

No tokens, no pvp writ updates.

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Old 05-27-2010, 09:22 PM   #23
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Neskonlith wrote:

Huge fight in CL at WFP, and not long after the 10 minute remaining broadcast, the zone crashes.

lol

No tokens, no pvp writ updates.

I was there too, so I /petitioned this,, and wouldn't ya know just as Freeport was winning, the [Removed for Content] zone crashed,, no tokens,, but when I came back into the game, the tokens I got for completing a writ were in my inventory overflow. I think there needs to be a limit as to how many people are in a zone. This was why there was a kp1, kp2, kp3 etc. This lagfest called "Warfields" , will continue to lag,, and zones will continue to crash, if there is not an option to go to CL1, CL2, CL3 etc. I am not sure how that will even work in game with the new travel system and that big huge map popping up in my face everytime I want to go somewhere because so far I have not even seen an otion for multiple instances of the same zone.

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Old 05-27-2010, 09:45 PM   #24
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Fighting inside the tower is just fail - it boils down to whom has the best heals and hardest AOEs.  Fighting inside the tower should not be the sole flagging condition.  Killing the attackers outside the tower should flag people as participating in the event too.  If we just wanted point blank AOE we could just go back to standing on the writ giver and hailing Fatuna non stop.  I am 50/50 on the tower ever rendering during the entire fight.  As I am completing writs I am not completely unhappy about not getting the "flag" but forcing people to ground zero is asking for even worse server performance.  

EDIT  after the 10:15 PM pacific standard Antonica fight.

Another "failfield" with no tokens unfortunately - started this one with just 1 writ poster up.  Since I won't abandon my group to get a new poster I recieved no additional writ updates nor tokens for the event even though my group was present at the start and killed 2 towers along with everyone else - we died at the NQG fight and revived and then even ended in flight back with no tokens.  This is the third warfield this has occurred at for me.  I would think the current mechanism for checking for afkers is punishing those of us actually participating in the event.     

ALSO please DISABLE encounter locking on the tower guardians so that people cannot "lock" the tower guardian fight.  This happened last night and the grp killing the tower either did not realize it was locked or did so on purpose. 

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Old 05-28-2010, 03:02 AM   #25
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It would appear that there is no 'flagging method'. From my most recent Warfields....

1.) In zone before event starts.

2.) Hailed EVERY little statue/guard/ or w/e

3.) Went inside every tower

4.) Danced a jig while killing waves of FP players

5.) Stayed in zone until event apparently just disappeared. *no screen announcement or anything in chat log that I can find announcing that it was over and who the victor was...if any*

6.) Posted on the forum.

Come on. Please fix this. I understand that the big draw is the writ completions but don't promise me a reward and then not deliver. And for crying out loud, make the 'flagging' process obvious or write it down so SOMEONE can filter it out the the rest of the player base.

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Well it would be nice to fill a writ if players would render before dieing or maybe i could get a spell off.JUst got done with one in ant dead before tower render i actually had one gaurding render attacked it once and then died no update.it seems towers render beter in cl then ant.

Let us know something comunicating means alot .you want us to give you feedback so you can figure out a solution well we have. you needed to look at data durring the lag of warfields well there should be lots of data by now being every 2 hours.

We the players are trying here. were out there trying to do these warfields with lag we all complain in chat on how it sucks to be out here but come the next one were all there again. I dont know how much more peeps can take it before they go back into bgs.Were geting back to open pvp (it may be a zerg but its a start and beter then a zerg in a can imo) and thats what we wanted but were geting dissapionted quite quickly.

So can you throw us bone tell us what you have found and some solutions your going to try or atleast thinking about.By hearing nothing we think your doing nothing.

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Old 05-28-2010, 10:52 AM   #27
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standing inside the tower at conclusion of match. no reward
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:17 AM   #28
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from bufftest to ______

so, you think i'm just some newb pve lover cause i said this was gonna suck. sorry, but this sucks on so many lvls. i'm just glad i don't have to watch this anymore.

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Old 05-28-2010, 11:38 AM   #29
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[email protected] wrote:

 Since I won't abandon my group to get a new poster I recieved no additional writ updates nor tokens for the event even

Dude it takes all of 2 min to cast a call, pick up a new writ and zone back out. Which is usally a good time to restock on signets and bank.....

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