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Old 01-07-2005, 09:48 AM   #1
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Hi,
 
I am a lvl 25 coercer who finally happened onto a peice of Silver.  I want upgrade my Gloom to adept 3 but was wondering what lvl does the spell become pointless and Coercers are no longer using it.  From what I can see of our spell list it probaly is used into the mid 30's. 
 
 
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Old 01-07-2005, 10:32 PM   #2
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Im level 36 and I still use gloom.
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Old 01-07-2005, 11:12 PM   #3
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Lvl 41 still using Gloom here not as much for damage but rather for - arcane mitingation part which is very strong
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Old 01-07-2005, 11:29 PM   #4
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Maybe its just me, but the last day or so due to the bug ive just been using only melancholy and my nukes still seem to be hitting just as good as when I was using gloom and melancholy. The dmg obviously stacks, but im not convinced that the arcane mit debuff does. It still does decent dmg, but with me getting Anguish last night (omg so good btw) gloom is now down to 3rd as far as dot preference goes.I spose casting gloom first helps land melancholy tho.

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Old 01-08-2005, 12:52 AM   #5
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The arcane mitigation definitly stacks.  With just mel, I was hitting for 290s or so with adapt I despotic mind...  Before the patch with both, I was always in the 300+ range, sometimes as high as 350ish.
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:14 AM   #6
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With just Mel or just Gloom at lvl 41 DM hit in 305-355 range once both debuff sitting on target I can achieve stable 405-455 damage output
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Old 01-10-2005, 09:44 PM   #7
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Well, I am very glad to hear that Gloom is still used at such high levels.  I am a lvl 20 Coercer but at around lvl 15 I saw a Gloom (Master I) for sale for 20s (yes 20 silver) in freeport.  I was in my apartment and ran yelling and screaming as fast as I could to the nearest broker to buy - and I got it!
 
Must have been some lazy SOB who thought it was Adept I and not Master I when they priced it.
 
 

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Old 01-23-2005, 01:12 AM   #8
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i hate you with a passion for finding the master 1 >.< bah, ill pay 21s :robotvery-happy:
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:10 AM   #9
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This is a very good thread.  I still use Gloom at level 35 with great success for situations where I am in dps mode.  I also use it on boss mobs along with Melancholy to help the wizards and other mages in the group get spells to land for more damage. 
 
However, I am curious if anyone knows whether upgrading from Adept 1 to say Adept3 (or master 1 you lucky SOB!) increases the amount of arcane mitigations on a target.   I've been holding onto a silver cluster for quite a long time, and if the arcane mitigation increases this is probably the best upgrade of lower level spells out there.
 
On a side-note, I spent some time asking Coercers level 45+ on my server (Guk) whether they still use it, and most said flat out no.  Now, perhaps they don't know the arcane mitigation stacking part, and I didn't want to take too much of their (and my) time to explain why I was asking. 
 
Anyway, any concrete or annecdotal evidence that the arcane mitigation increases with spell upgrades?
 
 
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Old 01-23-2005, 07:20 PM   #10
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Well, I don't know if its concrete or not. But the first mob after I got my gloom adept 3 that I fought, I hit a new record Despotic Mind. It wasn't anything spectacular, maybe 10 or 12 points over the prior record. But it still shows that you are getting more debuff out of the adept 3.Oh and if they aren't using it. Its just flat out laziness. Unless there is some sort of cap on the amount of arcane mit you can debuff and despair hits it. Who knows.

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Old 01-24-2005, 02:17 PM   #11
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Still using it at lvl44
 
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