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Old 11-06-2017, 10:44 PM   #1
Towkin

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Any other tanks having issues maintaining aggro without rotating snaps / av's .. even the snaps only hold aggro for so long. Dps wise I can push but not often and not effectively enough to maintain aggro control.
I've been tanking zones by timing when I use my snaps with whatever horrible thing might occur to the dps class pulling aggro. The bolster to our profession abilities doesn't seem to make much of a difference, but I am still leveling alchemy to replace my old tier gm's with new tier experts for the sake of trying.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:35 AM   #2
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Mainly due to the taunts potency being hard capped at 10000. You get no scaling on what was, until KA expac, an important part of your total aggro generation.

Here's a screenshot showing the evolution of my Outgoing damage & Threat at the end of the last 3 expansions, the image display their respectives percentages :

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At the end of AoM my Outgoing damage was around 38% of my personnal aggro generation and my Threat 62%.
With the stats scaling, by the end of ToT my Outgoing damage was around 30% and my Threat 70%.
Then came KA with another cb scaling, ab mod, potency scaling and the introduction of the ascension spells.
Ascension spells made the damages rise, Outgoing damage is now around 85% and Threat around 15%.
Between the end of ToT and the end of KA, my total DPS got multiplicated by 15-20x but my total Threat got multiplicated by 30-35%, mainly due to crit bonus.
If potency continue to scale, by the end of PoP, Threat may do less than 3-5%.


The problem is : DPS classes fully scaled with KA, have better damaging abilites than fighters and the same ascensions you got ( even better damaging ones if you arent etherealist ). As a fighter, your damages scaled fine but your taunts dont scaled much, you dont have potent threat anymore to close the damage gap = you loose aggro more than before / can't hold it.


If nothing is done by the start of PoP : returning fighters players, alts with low ascension quality spells and/or players with lower equipement than the dps classes they grouped with will be useless in heroic content because they can't do their job anymore.


P.S : if you want more information about the taunt potency hardcap check here : https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...-abilities-fighter.581304/page-2#post-6473283
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:57 PM   #3
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Wait . . . threat is hard capped? WTF insanity is that? How is it hurting anyone when threat is high? Isn't managing aggro what a tank is supposed to be doing? You can't just hard cap one class / archtype and expect balance to actually work.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:44 PM   #4
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well u really need ... even more than ever the 100% hate gain

and any dps really needs as close to -50% hate (troub, necro, chanter ... )
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