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Old 10-06-2005, 10:01 PM   #1
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The way i see it that my lvl 60 mystic is almost perfect.I can keep wards on tanks 99% of the fight in a single group with using one heal or less, as long as the tank is tanking yellows. If my tank is tanking orange's i go threw alittle more power because of healing.Wards take no mana almost and does a outstanding job atm.... When i heal is where i burn my mana.The Dps is a little low but if u play ur mystic correct u can keep up with any other priest class Including wardens and Furies.Only change i dnt like is the fact that mystics and defilers dnt stack and also Group wards(no longer a single target can take the full effect of it only his % of the ward)Only info i dnt have first hand about mystics just yet is how raid helpful they are.60th Mystic of NajenaPlacid The'Oracle Co-leader "Second Dawn"www.secondawn.com
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:00 PM   #2
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I have to admit that the changes from LU13 have taken some getting used to, but that has been the same for any class.  I have several characters - 42 mystic, 30 templar, 29 berzerker, 22 warlock, 21 wizard, and 16 druid.  The levels they have achieved are not in direct correlation to the order in which they were created.  The reason that my mystic is the highest level is because she is my favorite to play. I am excited that my wards are now working, and am still greatly enjoying the game. Rudhi 42 mystic Everfrost server
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:05 PM   #3
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I too have a slew of alts. (53Mystic 50Dirge 25Monk 23Guardian)

I have re-fallen in love with my mystic to the point of playing my dirge twice (once to respec once to try him out {he is GREAT too})  and not even bothering to log into the other 2. I am simply having too much fun playing as my mystic.

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Old 10-07-2005, 12:53 AM   #4
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If you think you can keep up with Warden and Fury DPS you haven't seen the right Warden or Fury playing. Those boys have some serious DPS.  (comparitively)
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:41 AM   #5
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We are far from perfect.  In groups we can hold our own but raiding is a diffrent story.  The seven second heal suxs.  The group wards not working right suxs.  The single ward is ok but usually 1400 points are done in one hit by any raid mob.  Our dps is rediculous. 

 

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Old 10-07-2005, 06:11 AM   #6
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as a 56 Mystic also on Najena, I can perform the role of solo healing my group very very well, whilst Mystics are not perfect, we are certainly heading in the right direction.   Torpor is your best friend when your dealing with mobs conning orange to your tank.
 
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:44 AM   #7
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Toobig, while I share your assessment, I don't believe that less healing power is a problem specific to mystics... or that there is anything wrong with it. I think that the way healing works now across the board is just the new nature of the beast when it comes to raiding. The group wards not working very well is somewhat annoying, but it has been stated that a fix is in the works. The ward in general is superior to regens and reactives, as a function of how it works. Some of the slower casting times we deal with now are balanced out by the fact that we can prevent damage long enough to use it, and I'm fine with that. I know it isn't alot in raids, but considering that other classes can't prevent/heal that much damage from ONE mob hit, wards are very nice to have. If you are in the MT group, and have another mystic in the raid, have you tried playing around with Oberon? This can only be used in the group, and frees up the second mystic to chain cast wards without the risk of overwriting. Although, in all likelihood, even if you both spammed them, the chances of them actually interfering with each other are practically null considering how much DPS is being put out. As far as DPS, it does seem that the relative amount of DPS for all non-DPS classes has been decreased (the relative amount, mind you), but the numbers are definitely higher then they once were. Another thing to look at is that between Chimerik and Scream of the Ancients, you have some serious max HP reduction if you get the spells in immediately. While this is only a once/fight type of thing, it can add up, and won't show up on any parser (unless you add up total damage without the spells, and total damage with, and the mob doesnt heal, etc, etc, etc.)
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Old 10-07-2005, 07:43 AM   #8
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I love being a mystic, everything is great now.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:05 PM   #9
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Group wards are still broken.  Mystics are *not* perfect  LoL.
 
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:26 PM   #10
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as much as you are correct with it songrider, there is absolutely no reason or use spamming it in every thread, sorry, that's just annoying (and they are working on it, too, as you might have seen when checking the dev tracker)
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Old 10-07-2005, 04:39 PM   #11
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So they fixed wards after 9 months of ignoring us.

Once I got over the joy of not being totally broken, I had a look at the lack of everything else that we got.

Maybe I'm just a malcontent, because I think we got pretty lame treatment compared to a lot of classes who now have a bit of that oooh, ahhh quality.

Along with templars I am starting to feel like one of the most boring plodders of any class: restricted by spell timers, lacking any ability to stop mobs casting or beating on me when solo or duelling, and losing the gain in spell dps because of watered down buffs.

 

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Old 10-07-2005, 06:26 PM   #12
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Guys I dont know where you are coming from.  Yes we can handle a 1 group healing with no sweat.  With topor and wards I never had a problem healing in single groups.  Raiding is totally diffrent.  Our 7 sec cast heal is just stupid.  Casting a ward is good but it is gone before the recast is even up on it.  Fighting mobs that hit for 5-10k and trying to keep the tank up with a 7 sec cast is cutting it to close.  I am not saying that over all I dont like some of the changes.  Yes I do like alot of the changes but our healing ON raid mobs comes in last IMO.  And why add a boost to hp's with our heal spells?  That probably is the most dumbest ideals that SOE came up with.  Just give us the extra points on the heals.  As to using Oberon lol no thanks.  Yes it is a good spell when exping and when you have to keep someone up (because you can always click it off). 
 
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Old 10-07-2005, 06:43 PM   #13
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Toobig wrote:
Guys I dont know where you are coming from.  Yes we can handle a 1 group healing with no sweat.  With topor and wards I never had a problem healing in single groups.  Raiding is totally diffrent.  Our 7 sec cast heal is just stupid.  Casting a ward is good but it is gone before the recast is even up on it.  Fighting mobs that hit for 5-10k and trying to keep the tank up with a 7 sec cast is cutting it to close.  I am not saying that over all I dont like some of the changes.  Yes I do like alot of the changes but our healing ON raid mobs comes in last IMO.  And why add a boost to hp's with our heal spells?  That probably is the most dumbest ideals that SOE came up with.  Just give us the extra points on the heals.  As to using Oberon lol no thanks.  Yes it is a good spell when exping and when you have to keep someone up (because you can always click it off). 
 
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For 99% of the people posting here have not yet raided since the raid fix... I myself fall into this category.

Like a starving man on a desert island we have been thrown a bone and it is a gourmet dinner for us...  That bone is being able to keep a group alive. Once the initial shock of food in our stomachs is over i am sure we will report on how the gravy tastes.

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Old 10-07-2005, 06:56 PM   #14
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The bottom line for me is that playing my Mystic is no longer fun.  I don't know if its the aggro bug, the sub-par healing, or the lack of DPS, but it's gone from fun to frustrating.  Once my Warlock is high enough to take his place, I plan to shelve him.  Although, there seems to be a shortage of healers lately, so I'll probably get stuck playing him anyway.

edit:  Don't think I don't see the improvements in our class.  We are more effective in keeping one or two people in a group alive.  But that's not the point of my post.

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Old 10-08-2005, 06:11 PM   #15
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Um, one thing I don't quite understand - people are complaining that on raid mobs, lets assume you mean epic x 4, your ward is off before the timer comes back up.

Well, on raid mobs, you aren't the only healer are you?  Our wards don't stack with other mystics anymore, and if you have two mystics on a raid,  you'll just be alternating wards anyway.  Worked out pretty well on our last raid attempt, we were even happily alternating torpors, and had chances to toss in debuffs.

Do I think we need help?  Yeah, but I might as well join the club of other healers complaining about cast times.  The majority of raid zones out there aren't even balanced by SoE yet (certain previously easy nameds in SoL now do aoes for 6k dmg, lol) - so until they are, I am gonna reserve judgment on our usefulness on raids.

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Old 10-09-2005, 09:24 AM   #16
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Honostly I hate my mystic (42) everything is adept 1 and with the heals being so slow it just sucks. I can ward no problem, but if a ward breaks I still need to heal. I don't know I havent grouped with many intelligent people since the patch, but I just dislike the feel of him. SO I made a ranger and love him SMILEY I figure another week or two and I will wanna try playing the mystic again. I just don't see why people are saying soloing is great though. Yeah i can take down whites but it takes like 1-2minutes. I don't consider that good :shrug: Throw in a second healer and my mystic is fine though
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Old 10-09-2005, 12:29 PM   #17
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Toobig has nailed it. Mystics are fine in group situations, and some changes are nice. In raids, we fall behind. Single target wards are eaten immediately, and while waiting for the recast timer on our long casting heals to refresh we get to see other healers' regens and heals spamming  the MT. It's disheartening, and I've put in /feedback about our recast and casting timers for all the good *that* will do. Demyn 60 Mystic NPU
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