Problem healing myself in solo combat

Storm_Runner · 03-09-2006, 12:44 AM

Hey...have any of you come across this issue. I'll be soloing and be in combat with a mob and realize I'm running low on health. While I'm targeting (and hopefully hitting) the mob I try to heal myself. If I hit the button to cast a heal (with the mob targeted) I get a message that says something along the line of "not a valid target" or something like that (I can't remember exactly). The only way I can heal myself in combat is to hit F1 to target myself, pray the mob doesn't hit me and make himself my target, cast the heal, and then switch targets back to the mob. Is this the way it's supposed to work? I thought that if I cast a heal that it would affect whatever the mob was targeting but it doesn't seem to be working this way. Any help would be appreciated.

Rorraent · 03-09-2006, 12:47 AM

It works alright for me, you're right in thinking that you heal whoever your target is targeting in which case it should be you, might just want to check that they are actually fighting you.

Thicket Tundrabog · 03-09-2006, 12:55 AM

Maybe this is your problem. I'll explain by way of example.You pull two grouped mobs. You fight and heal and manage to kill one of the mobs. You try to heal yourself and can't.This happens when you haven't targeted the second mob. It becomes targeted automatically if it hits you just once more and you'll be able to heal yourself.Targeting yourself for a heal has some risk. You must then consciously retarget the second mob. It won't happen automatically.

Kaknya · 03-09-2006, 01:11 AM

Also that you are meleeing the target as well.. some new mobs that i have been playing with recently have a type of knockback that seems to make me loose focus on the target all together.. quite irritating when a second or two could mean the difference between life or death..

Bulzie · 03-09-2006, 02:03 AM

Are you fighting mobs with pets? I've had same issue with healing myself as I had the mob targeted, but the mob was targeting his pet. So when I tried to heal, it was trying to heal the pet and not me giving that message.

Korrupt-W · 03-09-2006, 03:00 AM

also back into the fray wont work in that situation.. the rest of the heals shud work fine if ur soloing and targetting through the mob

SpritRaja · 03-09-2006, 03:28 AM

he pressed F1 to heal himself BITF wouldnt have worked there either :smileytongue:

Korrupt-W · 03-09-2006, 03:57 AM

ya but if he cast something else it wud have.. just saying heals other then bitf should work.

DarkEle · 03-09-2006, 11:03 PM

Thicket Tundrabog wrote:Maybe this is your problem. I'll explain by way of example.You pull two grouped mobs. You fight and heal and manage to kill one of the mobs. You try to heal yourself and can't.This happens when you haven't targeted the second mob. It becomes targeted automatically if it hits you just once more and you'll be able to heal yourself.Targeting yourself for a heal has some risk. You must then consciously retarget the second mob. It won't happen automatically.

This is a good example. As soon as the mob dies, you lose your target, and then you can't heal yourself. When the next mob hits you though, you automatically target it since you have nothing targetted and then since it is targetting you, you can heal.

As a side note, if you target yourself using F1, when a mob hits you it won't change your target. Your target only changes if you have nothing currently targetted. If you use F1 to heal yourself, you can hit escape to clear your target after your heal, and then the next mob to hit you will cause you to automatically target the mob.

DevilsEnvy · 03-09-2006, 11:20 PM

You are getting this message because you are trying to cast "Back in the Fray" which you aren't able to cast on yourself, only others.

Storm_Runner · 03-10-2006, 01:04 AM

Thanks for the info. It might be the pet thing because most of the mobs I was fighting had pets. It could also be that I was trying to heal after the first mob died but before the second was targetted. Just bad timing on my part. It can't be Back into the Fray because my Fury is only level 8 and still on the Island...he doesn't have that spell yet. He's just a lil fella. Thanks again for the help.

Headhuntre · 03-10-2006, 07:14 PM

This has happened to me also, and enough times that I know its not Back into the Fray or a pet. When I have an npc targeted and cast bloodflow it sometimes says.. not a valid target....I then need to either target myself or use another heal..salve or any other. It mainly occurs with bloodflow and not my other heals.

Bulzie · 03-10-2006, 07:45 PM

No Bloodflow at level 8. I still bet it's either the mob targeting pet issue or casting heal in time lapse from when targeted mob dies and 2nd mob has not gained aggro yet to have you targeted.

Dreg · 03-11-2006, 07:15 AM

What they need to do is automatically assume the target is "self" if nothing is targeted and the spell being cast is a beneficial spell. This targeting issue really annoys me too.

03-09-2006, 12:44 AM	#1
Storm_Runner Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 131	Hey...have any of you come across this issue. I'll be soloing and be in combat with a mob and realize I'm running low on health. While I'm targeting (and hopefully hitting) the mob I try to heal myself. If I hit the button to cast a heal (with the mob targeted) I get a message that says something along the line of "not a valid target" or something like that (I can't remember exactly). The only way I can heal myself in combat is to hit F1 to target myself, pray the mob doesn't hit me and make himself my target, cast the heal, and then switch targets back to the mob. Is this the way it's supposed to work? I thought that if I cast a heal that it would affect whatever the mob was targeting but it doesn't seem to be working this way. Any help would be appreciated. __________________ Balyn - Barbarian Berserker; Tuatha - Fae Swashbuckler Krishall - Kerran Ranger; Leejon - Gnome Conjuror Kruhl - Ogre Bruiser; Sthyss - Iksar Fury Residents of Butcherblock

03-09-2006, 01:11 AM	#4
Kaknya Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 231	Also that you are meleeing the target as well.. some new mobs that i have been playing with recently have a type of knockback that seems to make me loose focus on the target all together.. quite irritating when a second or two could mean the difference between life or death.. __________________ Trindelle 90 paladin of Test Server Poldera 90 Fury 90 sage of Test Server Jalina 90 Warlock 90 provisioner of Test Server Cristiana 73 Illusionist of Test Server

03-09-2006, 03:00 AM	#6
Korrupt-W General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	also back into the fray wont work in that situation.. the rest of the heals shud work fine if ur soloing and targetting through the mob __________________

03-09-2006, 03:57 AM	#8
Korrupt-W General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 34	ya but if he cast something else it wud have.. just saying heals other then bitf should work. __________________

03-10-2006, 01:04 AM	#11
Storm_Runner Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 131	Thanks for the info. It might be the pet thing because most of the mobs I was fighting had pets. It could also be that I was trying to heal after the first mob died but before the second was targetted. Just bad timing on my part. It can't be Back into the Fray because my Fury is only level 8 and still on the Island...he doesn't have that spell yet. He's just a lil fella. Thanks again for the help. __________________ Balyn - Barbarian Berserker; Tuatha - Fae Swashbuckler Krishall - Kerran Ranger; Leejon - Gnome Conjuror Kruhl - Ogre Bruiser; Sthyss - Iksar Fury Residents of Butcherblock

03-09-2006, 12:47 AM	#2
Rorraent Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: England Posts: 1	It works alright for me, you're right in thinking that you heal whoever your target is targeting in which case it should be you, might just want to check that they are actually fighting you.

03-09-2006, 12:55 AM	#3
Thicket Tundrabog Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 328	Maybe this is your problem. I'll explain by way of example.You pull two grouped mobs. You fight and heal and manage to kill one of the mobs. You try to heal yourself and can't.This happens when you haven't targeted the second mob. It becomes targeted automatically if it hits you just once more and you'll be able to heal yourself.Targeting yourself for a heal has some risk. You must then consciously retarget the second mob. It won't happen automatically.

03-09-2006, 02:03 AM	#5
Bulzie Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 255	Are you fighting mobs with pets? I've had same issue with healing myself as I had the mob targeted, but the mob was targeting his pet. So when I tried to heal, it was trying to heal the pet and not me giving that message.

03-09-2006, 03:28 AM	#7
SpritRaja Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ACT, Australia Posts: 418	he pressed F1 to heal himself BITF wouldnt have worked there either :smileytongue:

03-09-2006, 11:03 PM	#9
DarkEle Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 54	Thicket Tundrabog wrote:Maybe this is your problem. I'll explain by way of example.You pull two grouped mobs. You fight and heal and manage to kill one of the mobs. You try to heal yourself and can't.This happens when you haven't targeted the second mob. It becomes targeted automatically if it hits you just once more and you'll be able to heal yourself.Targeting yourself for a heal has some risk. You must then consciously retarget the second mob. It won't happen automatically. This is a good example. As soon as the mob dies, you lose your target, and then you can't heal yourself. When the next mob hits you though, you automatically target it since you have nothing targetted and then since it is targetting you, you can heal. As a side note, if you target yourself using F1, when a mob hits you it won't change your target. Your target only changes if you have nothing currently targetted. If you use F1 to heal yourself, you can hit escape to clear your target after your heal, and then the next mob to hit you will cause you to automatically target the mob.

03-09-2006, 11:20 PM	#10
DevilsEnvy Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 25	You are getting this message because you are trying to cast "Back in the Fray" which you aren't able to cast on yourself, only others.

03-10-2006, 07:14 PM	#12
Headhuntre Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17	This has happened to me also, and enough times that I know its not Back into the Fray or a pet. When I have an npc targeted and cast bloodflow it sometimes says.. not a valid target....I then need to either target myself or use another heal..salve or any other. It mainly occurs with bloodflow and not my other heals.

03-10-2006, 07:45 PM	#13
Bulzie Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 255	No Bloodflow at level 8. I still bet it's either the mob targeting pet issue or casting heal in time lapse from when targeted mob dies and 2nd mob has not gained aggro yet to have you targeted.

03-11-2006, 07:15 AM	#14
Dreg General Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 26	What they need to do is automatically assume the target is "self" if nothing is targeted and the spell being cast is a beneficial spell. This targeting issue really annoys me too.