Beastlord Mana Regen Nerf

11-03-2018, 10:38 AM

RIP Beastlord mana feeds. 2% power regen is a slap in the face reallly. Pretty much makes the ability useless. This will further cripple the class. #makebeastlordsgreatagain

Karsa · 11-03-2018, 06:11 PM

The change to Ralissk' Perception - increase power of group members by 1.6-2.9% is terror-bad would suggest something more in area of 5.4 - 9%. At is current form not worth casting or putting on the hotbar.

Errrorr · 11-03-2018, 07:01 PM

2-3% per group member seems fair considering you can cast it in your pure DPS feral stance. BL's shouldn't be a mana regen class in that stance anyway. This amount could be enough to allow healers to get off a cure, a tank to get a temp up etc.

I could advocate an increase to the % IF the BL is in spiritual stance though. That would fit the class better overall.

11-03-2018, 10:40 PM

There was no screaming in my post. Just annoyance. I am sure the devs will not take offense. I’m just struggling to understand what my class is anymore. Are we T1 dps, T2 dps, utility. I doubt I’d even get a raid spot if I wasn’t tenured. Again, just voicing frustration. I’m not attacking anyone.

Karsa · 11-03-2018, 11:02 PM

Well if you want to 'cherry' pick which prestige powers operate in which stance I would totally support that if they do complete overall on the outdated aa powers, seeing how unlikely that this and any of the other classes in the game can spec to get both powers on their left and right prestige page, one of the powers should not be nerfed into a state near ineffectiveness. IMO 1.6.-2.9 is too low I think potions can provide more than that.

Mermut · 11-05-2018, 04:36 AM

To be honest, I'm surprised it took them this long to nerf the BLs powerfeed.
The power drains in the PoP and CD are now far stronger than the feeds any non-chanter has. Since nearly every heroic named has a nasty power feed...
I suppose they want every group to have a coercer.

I get that they've decided they don't want people at full power all the time.. but that can be better managed with more expensive arts. Having no power is much 'less fun' then having full power. Sure scouts and tanks can do a little without power. But mages and priests (those priests that now have to nearly spam heal to keep people alive) are useless without power.

11-12-2018, 08:36 PM

I was never that impressed with a BL's powerfeed to begin with that would cause it to be nerfed. What's annoying about the power drainage, Mermut, is you're sucked dry at the opening of the fight. As an illy (we also powerfeed, but that's a little known secret these days, haha), it's difficult to power up your group when you are sucked dry at the beginning of the fight. I get that they don't want people at full power as well, but I'm not aware that players had that expectation. What we do want are tools and mechanics that make the game challenging, not frustrating as hell because of an overused mechanic. I just want a chance to succeed, not have it guaranteed.

Mermut · 11-12-2018, 08:50 PM

Oh.. I'm not saying I think it is a GOOD thing. I don't. I'm just unsurprised that it was nerfed.

11-12-2018, 08:54 PM

Sorry, but I didn't read it as if you agreed to it, haha. I was just making an observation that I didn't think it was all that to begin with.

Mermut · 11-12-2018, 09:01 PM

It wasn't until they nerfed everybody else's...

11-12-2018, 08:36 PM	#7
Bhayar Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Mermut said: ↑ “To be honest, I'm surprised it took them this long to nerf the BLs powerfeed. The power drains in the PoP and CD are now far stronger than the feeds any non-chanter has. Since nearly every heroic named has a nasty power feed... I suppose they want every group to have a coercer. I get that they've decided they don't want people at full power all the time.. but that can be better managed with more expensive arts. Having no power is much 'less fun' then having full power. Sure scouts and tanks can do a little without power. But mages and priests (those priests that now have to nearly spam heal to keep people alive) are useless without power.” I was never that impressed with a BL's powerfeed to begin with that would cause it to be nerfed. What's annoying about the power drainage, Mermut, is you're sucked dry at the opening of the fight. As an illy (we also powerfeed, but that's a little known secret these days, haha), it's difficult to power up your group when you are sucked dry at the beginning of the fight. I get that they don't want people at full power as well, but I'm not aware that players had that expectation. What we do want are tools and mechanics that make the game challenging, not frustrating as hell because of an overused mechanic. I just want a chance to succeed, not have it guaranteed.

11-12-2018, 08:50 PM	#8
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Bhayar said: ↑ “I was never that impressed with a BL's powerfeed to begin with that would cause it to be nerfed. What's annoying about the power drainage, Mermut, is you're sucked dry at the opening of the fight. As an illy (we also powerfeed, but that's a little known secret these days, haha), it's difficult to power up your group when you are sucked dry at the beginning of the fight. I get that they don't want people at full power as well, but I'm not aware that players had that expectation. What we do want are tools and mechanics that make the game challenging, not frustrating as hell because of an overused mechanic. I just want a chance to succeed, not have it guaranteed.” Oh.. I'm not saying I think it is a GOOD thing. I don't. I'm just unsurprised that it was nerfed.

11-12-2018, 08:54 PM	#9
Bhayar Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Mermut said: ↑ “Oh.. I'm not saying I think it is a GOOD thing. I don't. I'm just unsurprised that it was nerfed.” Sorry, but I didn't read it as if you agreed to it, haha. I was just making an observation that I didn't think it was all that to begin with.

11-12-2018, 09:01 PM	#10
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Bhayar said: ↑ “Sorry, but I didn't read it as if you agreed to it, haha. I was just making an observation that I didn't think it was all that to begin with.” It wasn't until they nerfed everybody else's...

11-03-2018, 10:38 AM	#1
Deadheals New Member Posts: n/a	RIP Beastlord mana feeds. 2% power regen is a slap in the face reallly. Pretty much makes the ability useless. This will further cripple the class. #makebeastlordsgreatagain

11-03-2018, 06:11 PM	#2
Karsa Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The change to Ralissk' Perception - increase power of group members by 1.6-2.9% is terror-bad would suggest something more in area of 5.4 - 9%. At is current form not worth casting or putting on the hotbar.

11-03-2018, 07:01 PM	#3
Errrorr Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	2-3% per group member seems fair considering you can cast it in your pure DPS feral stance. BL's shouldn't be a mana regen class in that stance anyway. This amount could be enough to allow healers to get off a cure, a tank to get a temp up etc. I could advocate an increase to the % IF the BL is in spiritual stance though. That would fit the class better overall.

11-03-2018, 10:40 PM	#4
Deadheals New Member Posts: n/a	There was no screaming in my post. Just annoyance. I am sure the devs will not take offense. I’m just struggling to understand what my class is anymore. Are we T1 dps, T2 dps, utility. I doubt I’d even get a raid spot if I wasn’t tenured. Again, just voicing frustration. I’m not attacking anyone.

11-03-2018, 11:02 PM	#5
Karsa Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Well if you want to 'cherry' pick which prestige powers operate in which stance I would totally support that if they do complete overall on the outdated aa powers, seeing how unlikely that this and any of the other classes in the game can spec to get both powers on their left and right prestige page, one of the powers should not be nerfed into a state near ineffectiveness. IMO 1.6.-2.9 is too low I think potions can provide more than that.

11-05-2018, 04:36 AM	#6
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	To be honest, I'm surprised it took them this long to nerf the BLs powerfeed. The power drains in the PoP and CD are now far stronger than the feeds any non-chanter has. Since nearly every heroic named has a nasty power feed... I suppose they want every group to have a coercer. I get that they've decided they don't want people at full power all the time.. but that can be better managed with more expensive arts. Having no power is much 'less fun' then having full power. Sure scouts and tanks can do a little without power. But mages and priests (those priests that now have to nearly spam heal to keep people alive) are useless without power.