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Old 11-07-2014, 07:34 PM   #31
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This ability seems fine to me as it is now ... using the defensive numbers above ... 120k dps on 4 targets is meh but the ability u should focus on is the threat ... Honestly at 500k solo avg hit and considering the gain in raid it turns into a positional every cast that can be used 4 times
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Old 11-07-2014, 07:57 PM   #32
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Since when is a 500k hit going to be a positional on every cast? 128 hits on 4 targets = 32 casts in 6:07 = average 1 cast per 11.4 seconds.

Dreadthorn from the Vulak ring does 800k aoe threat every 10 seconds, and it's no where near an aoe snap every time it goes off. Just my single target taunt had a max hit of over 13 million last night in raid on beta, (myth crit obviously) but 500k that can't crit, even from the gain of more HP in raid is going to be a drop in the bucket.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:46 PM   #33
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Defensive stance, on multiple targets.

But it shouldn't be 10x as powerful, even on multiple targets. 2x? 3x? Sure. But it's 10-15 times as much DPS.

It does between 600k and 1m DPS on 8-mob pulls.
Vital Trigger does sub 100k.

3 or 4 mobs is the threshold for which AOEs are supposed to overtake single target alternatives. And you can say "These abilities aren't about DPS!" Well, then they shouldn't be doing 10-15% of a parse. They already have inherent benefits over single target because they synergize much better with VC.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:49 PM   #34
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On single target it should out do earthshock. Is there a large difference in hp between you and the zerker?
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:51 PM   #35
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Also, are you front loading the damage or are you trying to work the buff component?
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Old 11-07-2014, 11:00 PM   #36
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One mil threat is about 1 position on hate
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Old 11-08-2014, 03:52 AM   #37
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First, that's just not true. Unless your raidwide is like, 40m

Second, Vital Trigger should outperform Earth Shock on up to THREE targets. At 4, Earth Shock should surpass it. At 8, it should do 2.5x or so. Especially considering it's something you can get amazing VC triggers out of.
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