Fan Faire 2011 Poll - Page 6

Dorieli · 10-26-2010, 08:17 AM

Miss_Jackie wrote:

You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there.

I agree, even though I live in Las Vegas. The Euro people should have one that is sponsored by SOE out there in europe somewhere, the east coast people should be able to have theirs as well. At least they are not just in San Diego or even in Texas. Still, other areas should have a chance to sponsor the event as I'm quiet sure convention rooms are much cheaper in other cities outside Las Vegas. We can be quite expensive.

shyelfi · 10-26-2010, 08:48 AM

I would like to see it held, once in a while in North Eastern Pennsylvania. Ty

As · 10-26-2010, 10:20 AM

Dorielith wrote:

Miss_Jackie wrote:
You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there.
I agree, even though I live in Las Vegas. The Euro people should have one that is sponsored by SOE out there in europe somewhere, the east coast people should be able to have theirs as well. At least they are not just in San Diego or even in Texas. Still, other areas should have a chance to sponsor the event as I'm quiet sure convention rooms are much cheaper in other cities outside Las Vegas. We can be quite expensive.

Have to disagree with you here. Being that I am a hotel manager on the strip in Vegas and I have worked in San Diego and Hawaii. Hotels in other states make a high % of their money off the sale of the hotel rooms themselves. While in Vegas we do not sell rooms as high as other cities do. We gain our revenue from gambling, food, alcohol, entertainment and the such. A Fan Faire in say Boston would be more money in Airfaire, Convention Fee, and the cost of your hotel room and I surmise the food pricing might be a bit lower but then again maybe not depending on the cost of living. I personally would not eat @ a McDonalds or Taco Bell when I am on vacation.

Yes, it would be cheaper for someone living in the northeast to drive to say Boston as it would be for someone in SD to drive toVegas, but in Boston your gonna pay a whole lot more for a room. I did a little bit of research on Boston rooms just out of the blue and the cheaper rooms were in a suburb of Boston called Brockton. When you get into the areas where they can hold conventions the room rates average $180 a night. Bally's is $95 a night, my hotel is $99, and the hotel next to me is $80. There is give in take in all of this.

Not to mention with SOE being in SD they can truck all their stuff to Vegas cheaper which keeps attendance fee's lower.

Shylaria · 10-26-2010, 10:41 AM

I have to agree with Miss Jackie, not everyone can afford to go to Las Vegas. I live in Cleveland, Ohio, which is a great city in and of itself. But Id love to see the FF come to atleast Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnatti or within a 200 mile radius of me. But, to be fair to all EQ and EQ2 players I think Sony should consider having the Fan Faires in a different area of the country atleast every 2-3 years. If it was close enough for me to get to, Id be the first one to sign up. Thanks!

packra · 10-26-2010, 11:09 AM

July is far better for the family players. in Augest school has already started and makes any trip that extends into the weekday impossible. I enjoyed the june date from 2009 and was planning to attend this year. The late dates made that an unatainable goal. the earlier in the summer is better. I also agree i like vegas but bring it to other parts of the country.

Leel · 10-26-2010, 11:11 AM

Hilton all the way, Ballys is craptastic!

Hilton is right on the rail and far more travel friendly!!!

Those whining about "Not everyone can afford to travel to Vegas" Great, well if EVERYONE could go then it would be an over crowded Comic Con mess...

The cost of having it on the East Coast/Texas(south)/Euro event is substantial!

You guys want it there, then do SOE a favor, get your friends playing!

They are in the process of merging servers in EQ2 due to low pops..

Why would they spend $$$$$$$ to have a FF on the East coast when they are losing pops in current games?

Vegas is about as cheap a vacation as you can get.

And do us a favor, LEAVE YOUR KIDS AT HOME, its bad enough you allow the 10 yr old Napolionic Complex child to play MMORPGs, please dont force us to have to stand near them in line while they whine about how long its taking...

Its Vegas, not Disney World.

Daily · 10-26-2010, 12:09 PM

Sounds like a fun trip.

Far from GA, but Vegas is cheap in comparison to many places.Bally's - good location.

Yea, hopefully not many kids - ew.

Leel · 10-26-2010, 01:43 PM

Dear SOE,

If you go with the August date you will be having it the SAME weekend as DefCon/Red Hat, IE you will all but DOUBLE your attendance....

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$kkthx

Vlahkmaak · 10-26-2010, 02:23 PM

Ballys pool party was a blast - I vote Ballys. Although the [Removed for Content] I met at the Hilton 2 years ago was pretty hot too.

Atan · 10-26-2010, 04:27 PM

Ballys, not cause the location matters so much, but the dates are actually workable.

Leonard · 10-26-2010, 04:30 PM

Bah vegas again lets try for somewhere different next year sick of vegas

Boston or just somewhere other than just vegas every year

ch4ot1c0n3 · 10-26-2010, 05:42 PM

You know... I still don't see Hawaii in these polls... SMILEY

MsChief · 10-26-2010, 07:01 PM

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION

Well, even though my guild had six B-days the week of the last fan faire, I have to vote for Bally's. It was the best vacation ever and conveniently located between two starbucks.

For as much crap as people give Sony, I have to say, you all host some of the best parties!!!

shyelfi · 10-26-2010, 10:32 PM

I know lots of folks that play eq and eq2 that live in North Eastern PA. I myself would go to a fan faire in an instant if it was closer. I can't afford to travel to Las Vagas. Why do the peeps out there, always have all the fun.. There are lots of folks all over that play the eq's. Feedback from the opposite side of the US may prove to be good, for soe. Blah, on always having Fan Faire in Vagas or places too far for me to come and have fun too.

shyelfi · 10-26-2010, 10:35 PM

Want to correct that and say, I know lots of folks that play eq and eq2, that live in the North Eastern USA.

Sori · 10-27-2010, 12:34 AM

Miss_Jackie wrote:

You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there.

/agree

katanallama · 10-27-2010, 12:35 PM

I'd love it to be east coast as well, but also remember they'd have to move their equipment to the venue, and regardless of where it is not everyone will be able to 'afford' to get there. Although it is kinda lame that it's always in Vegas, should find venues in other nearby cities.

Discord37 · 10-27-2010, 06:01 PM

I vote for East Coast.

Darkmystres · 10-27-2010, 07:09 PM

Ballys!!!

acidze · 10-27-2010, 11:14 PM

Vegas is actually a pretty cheap destination. A lot of airline have good deals on vegas flights. The hotel rooms are cheap, and I even found eatting out all the time wasn't so bad on the wallet either. You can find lots of good deals without looking that hard, I think I spend more in a meal going out here at home in upstate NY than I did for a whole day in vegas for meals.

Last year was my first FF and I plan to go back, tho I thought Vegas was an awful place to have it before, after going it is not at all. For 2 people It cost me around $2000 and that included a rental car and a 10 day stay, knock that down to no rental car and a 4 day stay and im looking at 1k - 1200 (including airfaire) and I am coming from upstate NY. Most places on the east coast will be way more than that! Without as much in a close proximity to do so almost forcing a rental car if you plan to do anything away from the convention center, unless you happen to drive there, which would only be a small amount of people I am sure.

Keeping it in Vegas is fine with me, its cheaper for SOE which means cheaper passes and they can spend more on doing other things at the event. Rather than charging me more and lugging all their staff and equipment over to the east coast.

donna19 · 10-28-2010, 04:30 AM

Havent been to vegas yet. Plan on going 2 FF next year. Hilton sounds cheaper than Bally's so I voted for Hilton

Selerra · 10-28-2010, 04:26 PM

arieva wrote:

Oh...and no offense...but leave the kids at home. Its Vegas...they have no business there...its a teen rated game. Sitter or don't go!

Yes, the vast majority of SOE games are T for Teen, but I think those kids playing Free Realms and Clone Wars Adventures might not agree with your sentiment.

bellanorte · 10-29-2010, 07:18 PM

Bally's in July please

Ashlanne · 10-29-2010, 09:14 PM

Thank you all for voting and taking part in the discussion.

We will let you know when a decision has been made and contracts have been signed.

ogomniac · 10-29-2010, 09:54 PM

Whenever, whereever, I am there!

balqui · 10-29-2010, 10:27 PM

aye i went in 08 and that when vangaurd had all the discussion panels n events ect at the hilton honestly i didnt even have time to cruise the strip or sight see at all there was so much going on at ff i didnt wanna miss anything bein my first time so having at the hilton was a blast.

of course the star trek exp was there which was a bonus i wasnt planning on that at all and was well worth seeing the hilton did have the monterail sytsem so it not like ur stranded at the hilton plus hilton HUGE place lots stuff do n see everything at the hilton , several times hilton staff stopped me and asked me how my convention going and was i having fun ect was i finding everythink ok did i have any questions ect ,

i wasnt even at a bar or a slot machine they seen my soe pass around my neck i thought that was cool i could go on n on but ill say this at ff when they say its all bout you the player its not a gimmik they mean it u wont be seeing anyone standing around watching soe staff have fun, there busy makeing sure ur having fun . be glad when economy picks up again

Scadicca · 10-29-2010, 11:01 PM

Selerra wrote:

arieva wrote:
Oh...and no offense...but leave the kids at home. Its Vegas...they have no business there...its a teen rated game. Sitter or don't go!
Yes, the vast majority of SOE games are T for Teen, but I think those kids playing Free Realms and Clone Wars Adventures might not agree with your sentiment.

But how much useful feedback can we expect from the pre-teens playing those games, and how much will they understand the technical details? I'm sure there are some 10 year olds out there who could give constructive feedback and considered opinions, but I'm also sure they are few and far between. Even if a particular child is that gifted, there's going to be what, four at most panels relevant to the games they play? What happens the rest of the time? If mom/dad/whoever really trusts the kid and the kid is responsible for him/herself, then the kid could probably be trusted in the gaming corner of the vendor room. But the younger the kid, the less that is an option, so those kids need to be with a responsible adult. Which means they're going to be in panels that the parents want to be at but the kids have no interest in. Where they will be expected to sit still and quiet for an hour.

Now, there are kids, even little ones, who can do that. One girl was no more than 4 and played very quietly next to her mom - but part of that play was a sort of silent peekaboo game with my friend sitting next to me, during which my friend missed most of what was being said. Yes, said friend willingly engaged in the game. But if she hadn't, what else might that little girl have started to do to express her boredom?

So yeah, mark me down for the kids really don't have a place there. Though I'm willing to let them come so long as their parents are willing to leave the panel with the kid the moment the kid starts fussing and/or disturbing those around them.

icemanl · 10-30-2010, 09:24 AM

balleys is good for me

Astom · 10-31-2010, 01:57 AM

Bally's

Astom · 10-31-2010, 02:00 AM

Bally's

10-26-2010, 08:17 AM	#151
Dorieli Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5	Miss_Jackie wrote: You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there. I agree, even though I live in Las Vegas. The Euro people should have one that is sponsored by SOE out there in europe somewhere, the east coast people should be able to have theirs as well. At least they are not just in San Diego or even in Texas. Still, other areas should have a chance to sponsor the event as I'm quiet sure convention rooms are much cheaper in other cities outside Las Vegas. We can be quite expensive.

10-26-2010, 10:20 AM	#153
As Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1	Dorielith wrote: Miss_Jackie wrote: You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there. I agree, even though I live in Las Vegas. The Euro people should have one that is sponsored by SOE out there in europe somewhere, the east coast people should be able to have theirs as well. At least they are not just in San Diego or even in Texas. Still, other areas should have a chance to sponsor the event as I'm quiet sure convention rooms are much cheaper in other cities outside Las Vegas. We can be quite expensive. Have to disagree with you here. Being that I am a hotel manager on the strip in Vegas and I have worked in San Diego and Hawaii. Hotels in other states make a high % of their money off the sale of the hotel rooms themselves. While in Vegas we do not sell rooms as high as other cities do. We gain our revenue from gambling, food, alcohol, entertainment and the such. A Fan Faire in say Boston would be more money in Airfaire, Convention Fee, and the cost of your hotel room and I surmise the food pricing might be a bit lower but then again maybe not depending on the cost of living. I personally would not eat @ a McDonalds or Taco Bell when I am on vacation. Yes, it would be cheaper for someone living in the northeast to drive to say Boston as it would be for someone in SD to drive toVegas, but in Boston your gonna pay a whole lot more for a room. I did a little bit of research on Boston rooms just out of the blue and the cheaper rooms were in a suburb of Boston called Brockton. When you get into the areas where they can hold conventions the room rates average $180 a night. Bally's is $95 a night, my hotel is $99, and the hotel next to me is $80. There is give in take in all of this. Not to mention with SOE being in SD they can truck all their stuff to Vegas cheaper which keeps attendance fee's lower.

10-27-2010, 12:34 AM	#166
Sori Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Miss_Jackie wrote: You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there. /agree

10-28-2010, 04:26 PM	#172
Selerra Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 28	arieva wrote: Oh...and no offense...but leave the kids at home. Its Vegas...they have no business there...its a teen rated game. Sitter or don't go! Yes, the vast majority of SOE games are T for Teen, but I think those kids playing Free Realms and Clone Wars Adventures might not agree with your sentiment.

10-29-2010, 11:01 PM	#177
Scadicca Happy Camper Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15	Selerra wrote: arieva wrote: Oh...and no offense...but leave the kids at home. Its Vegas...they have no business there...its a teen rated game. Sitter or don't go! Yes, the vast majority of SOE games are T for Teen, but I think those kids playing Free Realms and Clone Wars Adventures might not agree with your sentiment. But how much useful feedback can we expect from the pre-teens playing those games, and how much will they understand the technical details? I'm sure there are some 10 year olds out there who could give constructive feedback and considered opinions, but I'm also sure they are few and far between. Even if a particular child is that gifted, there's going to be what, four at most panels relevant to the games they play? What happens the rest of the time? If mom/dad/whoever really trusts the kid and the kid is responsible for him/herself, then the kid could probably be trusted in the gaming corner of the vendor room. But the younger the kid, the less that is an option, so those kids need to be with a responsible adult. Which means they're going to be in panels that the parents want to be at but the kids have no interest in. Where they will be expected to sit still and quiet for an hour. Now, there are kids, even little ones, who can do that. One girl was no more than 4 and played very quietly next to her mom - but part of that play was a sort of silent peekaboo game with my friend sitting next to me, during which my friend missed most of what was being said. Yes, said friend willingly engaged in the game. But if she hadn't, what else might that little girl have started to do to express her boredom? So yeah, mark me down for the kids really don't have a place there. Though I'm willing to let them come so long as their parents are willing to leave the panel with the kid the moment the kid starts fussing and/or disturbing those around them.

10-26-2010, 08:48 AM	#152
shyelfi Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shyelfiss Posts: 3	I would like to see it held, once in a while in North Eastern Pennsylvania. Ty

10-26-2010, 10:41 AM	#154
Shylaria The Quiet Type Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3	I have to agree with Miss Jackie, not everyone can afford to go to Las Vegas. I live in Cleveland, Ohio, which is a great city in and of itself. But Id love to see the FF come to atleast Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnatti or within a 200 mile radius of me. But, to be fair to all EQ and EQ2 players I think Sony should consider having the Fan Faires in a different area of the country atleast every 2-3 years. If it was close enough for me to get to, Id be the first one to sign up. Thanks!

10-26-2010, 11:09 AM	#155
packra Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1	July is far better for the family players. in Augest school has already started and makes any trip that extends into the weekday impossible. I enjoyed the june date from 2009 and was planning to attend this year. The late dates made that an unatainable goal. the earlier in the summer is better. I also agree i like vegas but bring it to other parts of the country.

10-26-2010, 11:11 AM	#156
Leel Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2	Hilton all the way, Ballys is craptastic! Hilton is right on the rail and far more travel friendly!!! Those whining about "Not everyone can afford to travel to Vegas" Great, well if EVERYONE could go then it would be an over crowded Comic Con mess... The cost of having it on the East Coast/Texas(south)/Euro event is substantial! You guys want it there, then do SOE a favor, get your friends playing! They are in the process of merging servers in EQ2 due to low pops.. Why would they spend $$$$$$$ to have a FF on the East coast when they are losing pops in current games? Vegas is about as cheap a vacation as you can get. And do us a favor, LEAVE YOUR KIDS AT HOME, its bad enough you allow the 10 yr old Napolionic Complex child to play MMORPGs, please dont force us to have to stand near them in line while they whine about how long its taking... Its Vegas, not Disney World.

10-26-2010, 12:09 PM	#157
Daily The Quiet Type Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Sounds like a fun trip. Far from GA, but Vegas is cheap in comparison to many places.Bally's - good location. Yea, hopefully not many kids - ew.

10-26-2010, 01:43 PM	#158
Leel Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2	Dear SOE, If you go with the August date you will be having it the SAME weekend as DefCon/Red Hat, IE you will all but DOUBLE your attendance.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$kkthx

10-26-2010, 02:23 PM	#159
Vlahkmaak The Quiet Type Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2	Ballys pool party was a blast - I vote Ballys. Although the [Removed for Content] I met at the Hilton 2 years ago was pretty hot too.

10-26-2010, 04:27 PM	#160
Atan Happy Camper Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1	Ballys, not cause the location matters so much, but the dates are actually workable.

10-26-2010, 04:30 PM	#161
Leonard Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Bah vegas again lets try for somewhere different next year sick of vegas Boston or just somewhere other than just vegas every year

10-26-2010, 05:42 PM	#162
ch4ot1c0n3 Happy Camper Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1	You know... I still don't see Hawaii in these polls...

10-26-2010, 07:01 PM	#163
MsChief The Quiet Type Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4	LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION Well, even though my guild had six B-days the week of the last fan faire, I have to vote for Bally's. It was the best vacation ever and conveniently located between two starbucks. For as much crap as people give Sony, I have to say, you all host some of the best parties!!!

10-26-2010, 10:32 PM	#164
shyelfi Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shyelfiss Posts: 3	I know lots of folks that play eq and eq2 that live in North Eastern PA. I myself would go to a fan faire in an instant if it was closer. I can't afford to travel to Las Vagas. Why do the peeps out there, always have all the fun.. There are lots of folks all over that play the eq's. Feedback from the opposite side of the US may prove to be good, for soe. Blah, on always having Fan Faire in Vagas or places too far for me to come and have fun too.

10-26-2010, 10:35 PM	#165
shyelfi Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shyelfiss Posts: 3	Want to correct that and say, I know lots of folks that play eq and eq2, that live in the North Eastern USA.

10-27-2010, 12:35 PM	#167
katanallama The Quiet Type Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	I'd love it to be east coast as well, but also remember they'd have to move their equipment to the venue, and regardless of where it is not everyone will be able to 'afford' to get there. Although it is kinda lame that it's always in Vegas, should find venues in other nearby cities.

10-27-2010, 06:01 PM	#168
Discord37 The Quiet Type Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3	I vote for East Coast.

10-27-2010, 07:09 PM	#169
Darkmystres Happy Camper Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	Ballys!!!

10-27-2010, 11:14 PM	#170
acidze Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6	Vegas is actually a pretty cheap destination. A lot of airline have good deals on vegas flights. The hotel rooms are cheap, and I even found eatting out all the time wasn't so bad on the wallet either. You can find lots of good deals without looking that hard, I think I spend more in a meal going out here at home in upstate NY than I did for a whole day in vegas for meals. Last year was my first FF and I plan to go back, tho I thought Vegas was an awful place to have it before, after going it is not at all. For 2 people It cost me around $2000 and that included a rental car and a 10 day stay, knock that down to no rental car and a 4 day stay and im looking at 1k - 1200 (including airfaire) and I am coming from upstate NY. Most places on the east coast will be way more than that! Without as much in a close proximity to do so almost forcing a rental car if you plan to do anything away from the convention center, unless you happen to drive there, which would only be a small amount of people I am sure. Keeping it in Vegas is fine with me, its cheaper for SOE which means cheaper passes and they can spend more on doing other things at the event. Rather than charging me more and lugging all their staff and equipment over to the east coast.

10-28-2010, 04:30 AM	#171
donna19 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Havent been to vegas yet. Plan on going 2 FF next year. Hilton sounds cheaper than Bally's so I voted for Hilton

10-29-2010, 07:18 PM	#173
bellanorte The Quiet Type Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 4	Bally's in July please

10-29-2010, 09:14 PM	#174
Ashlanne Project Manager Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 374	Thank you all for voting and taking part in the discussion. We will let you know when a decision has been made and contracts have been signed.

10-29-2010, 09:54 PM	#175
ogomniac SOE Community Council Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 10	Whenever, whereever, I am there!

10-29-2010, 10:27 PM	#176
balqui Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	aye i went in 08 and that when vangaurd had all the discussion panels n events ect at the hilton honestly i didnt even have time to cruise the strip or sight see at all there was so much going on at ff i didnt wanna miss anything bein my first time so having at the hilton was a blast. of course the star trek exp was there which was a bonus i wasnt planning on that at all and was well worth seeing the hilton did have the monterail sytsem so it not like ur stranded at the hilton plus hilton HUGE place lots stuff do n see everything at the hilton , several times hilton staff stopped me and asked me how my convention going and was i having fun ect was i finding everythink ok did i have any questions ect , i wasnt even at a bar or a slot machine they seen my soe pass around my neck i thought that was cool i could go on n on but ill say this at ff when they say its all bout you the player its not a gimmik they mean it u wont be seeing anyone standing around watching soe staff have fun, there busy makeing sure ur having fun . be glad when economy picks up again

10-30-2010, 09:24 AM	#178
icemanl Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5	balleys is good for me

10-31-2010, 01:57 AM	#179
Astom Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	Bally's

10-31-2010, 02:00 AM	#180
Astom Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	Bally's