Planes of Prophecy Beta: Itemization

Caith · 10-16-2017, 06:51 PM

Please provide any feedback or bugs for itemization here. Please be as descriptive as possible when describing bugs, include the item name or in game link, and any pertinent details such as where it was obtained if the report is it being out of progression, etc.

10-17-2017, 11:15 PM

Looks like some of stuff lost its blue stats:
https://gyazo.com/822ab8b7136fc44b2975f38b4999f34f

get from trash mob

10-18-2017, 12:07 AM

BLUF: Please make crossbow swappable to 1h for Ranger.

I noticed in the stream they mentioned we were all getting a crossbow. They even mentioned that it wasn't just going to be a ranger item (or scout)

The irony is rangers will be the only class that won't want to use it because it's the same slot as their epic 2.0.

10-18-2017, 01:57 AM

Channelers too.

Geobaldi01 · 10-18-2017, 02:02 AM

Whats worse is its double bugged. Ranger and Channeler abilities that require a bow will NOT work with the current crossbow.

10-18-2017, 02:23 AM

https://gyazo.com/39fea24e0755b2e930481a4866b66c3d

Drop from trash mob.

10-18-2017, 02:50 AM

It appears the Wand from Tishan's Box wants ammo to use. Is this a norm now, or unintended?

10-18-2017, 04:54 AM

Wrist of Magical Visions from trash is missing blue stats
Waistband of Ausipice Protection is missing blue stats

Niami DenMother · 10-18-2017, 05:01 AM

Augury Bangle of Presage from an ornate chest is missing blue stats, too

Mermut · 10-18-2017, 06:52 AM

Starting Gear:
Cloaks, belts, rings and neck have only white adorn slots
Ethereal adorns, PG oranges, green adorn slots.. all are missing.

Mermut · 10-18-2017, 07:00 AM

The attack speed on the starting gear is waaaaaaay too high.
For example:
Alubox Battle Cap: 273.6 attack speed
Obdurate Awe Leather Tunic: 334.6 attack speed

Each exceeds the hard cap on usable attack speed... the tunic by over 100. And that doesn't count the attack speed on the various other pieces of gear.

What is the reasoning behind having gear with numbers SO far in excess of usable, let alone useful, stat values?

10-18-2017, 01:49 PM

Attack speed converts to flurry.
Yes, flurry can be quite easy to (over)cap as well, but that is "the reasoning" as you asked, behind gear having stats like that. It gives people options for reaching caps on other stats..

10-18-2017, 04:13 PM

My two cents, From the preview it looks like its shoots and reloads like a bow. So whats the point... aside of screwing over anyone who did the epic that uses the ranged slot. Now make it burst fire or shoot faster... but really its kinda just a screw to rangers unless you make it with the same stats as the Epics for that slot... then its still a screw as people will have two epics more or less... in all you should make it so weak nobody would ever use it... or take it out ...

10-18-2017, 04:20 PM

It could be a new reforge stat or they may make flurry useful again...

Taiyla · 10-18-2017, 05:00 PM

Just wondering why the crossbow bolts won't go into the ammo pouch. You can't use the crossbow gotten from the beta buffer since it doesn't see the ammo.

Mermut · 10-18-2017, 05:34 PM

The base stats on the starting gear were 1.2k haste, 127 flurry, ~140 reuse, 400+ casting speed.. and a paltry 87k ab mod.
Flurry hard caps at 100. There is no way any amount of reforging will get rid of even most of those excess/useless stats.
I understand some flex.. but putting a significant chunk MORE then the max of a stat that hard caps on single items is bad itemization, especially when pieces have multiples of the stats with the excessive numbers.
Why would they even consider putting over 300 haste on a single item when haste is capped at 200?

10-18-2017, 05:56 PM

looks like some procs are broken:
https://gyazo.com/dc2997a16d7a626638d87109208b38f4

10-18-2017, 10:43 PM

How do we go about using the cross bow? I have all the bolts in my bag, but they will not go into my ammo pouch. I do not have a quiver as I had to create a new lady on beta and only have the pouch that came in the armor crate?

10-19-2017, 01:13 AM

Item: Essence of the Dancing Ignus
Dropped: Plane of Magic off trash mobs
No blue stats

Fyreflyte · 10-19-2017, 08:05 AM

Items missing blue stats in the overland have been fixed, as has the issue with wands giving an error that they require ammo. Both fixes will be included with the next patch.

10-19-2017, 05:36 PM

remove the ammo pouch and put a stack of bolts in it's place. you have to reapply a stack when the 200 run out, but you can use the crossbow.

Alenna · 10-19-2017, 05:52 PM

the crossbow is no good for rangers since it is not recognized as a bow.

Alenna · 10-19-2017, 05:55 PM

I can confirm that on my beta buffed ranger. I hope this is not intended as it would be unfair to Rangers and channelers

Caith · 10-19-2017, 09:23 PM

It's a bug, we're working on it now but it is being stubborn. Crossbows should work with all attacks that require bows.

Elfrina · 10-20-2017, 12:28 AM

Beta copy still not working

Alenna · 10-20-2017, 02:45 PM

thank you good luck.

Beee · 10-20-2017, 03:19 PM

We need an orange rune with Paragon because of the replacement of >> THESE << ranged items by the crossbow.

Hope somebody thinks about it Wink

Paragon doubles the effect of Elemental Amalgation (ASC - Elementalist lv 10)

10-20-2017, 05:45 PM

Still no beta copy.

10-20-2017, 06:21 PM

While we are on this topic: Can the tanks please, please get an orange rune to replace the "Awakened Enlightenment" effect on our Epic 2.0 charm? http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/2776648858

There is currently nothing in game that adds the reflect to Bulwark of Rime outside of that 1 item, and it will become hard to justify wearing it if everything else has an extra 20 resolve and an extra 2k potency.

Kuulei · 10-20-2017, 06:23 PM

Those that can't use bows, are getting no benefits from this crossbow. As a warden, I cannot use a bow and when equipped, I miss with every use. Tongue

It sounded good in theory, to give everyone a "cool crossbow" but you may have an issue with getting the mechanics to work across all classes Eek

10-18-2017, 04:20 PM	#14
Loxfin New Member Posts: n/a	Mermut said: ↑ “The attack speed on the starting gear is waaaaaaay too high. For example: Alubox Battle Cap: 273.6 attack speed Obdurate Awe Leather Tunic: 334.6 attack speed Each exceeds the hard cap on usable attack speed... the tunic by over 100. And that doesn't count the attack speed on the various other pieces of gear. What is the reasoning behind having gear with numbers SO far in excess of usable, let alone useful, stat values?” It could be a new reforge stat or they may make flurry useful again...

10-18-2017, 05:34 PM	#16
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Loxfin said: ↑ “It could be a new reforge stat or they may make flurry useful again...” The base stats on the starting gear were 1.2k haste, 127 flurry, ~140 reuse, 400+ casting speed.. and a paltry 87k ab mod. Flurry hard caps at 100. There is no way any amount of reforging will get rid of even most of those excess/useless stats. I understand some flex.. but putting a significant chunk MORE then the max of a stat that hard caps on single items is bad itemization, especially when pieces have multiples of the stats with the excessive numbers. Why would they even consider putting over 300 haste on a single item when haste is capped at 200?

10-19-2017, 05:55 PM	#23
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Geobaldi01 said: ↑ “Whats worse is its double bugged. Ranger and Channeler abilities that require a bow will NOT work with the current crossbow.” I can confirm that on my beta buffed ranger. I hope this is not intended as it would be unfair to Rangers and channelers

10-19-2017, 09:23 PM	#24
Caith Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Alenna said: ↑ “I can confirm that on my beta buffed ranger. I hope this is not intended as it would be unfair to Rangers and channelers” It's a bug, we're working on it now but it is being stubborn. Crossbows should work with all attacks that require bows.

10-20-2017, 02:45 PM	#26
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Caith said: ↑ “It's a bug, we're working on it now but it is being stubborn. Crossbows should work with all attacks that require bows.” thank you good luck.

10-16-2017, 06:51 PM	#1
Caith Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Please provide any feedback or bugs for itemization here. Please be as descriptive as possible when describing bugs, include the item name or in game link, and any pertinent details such as where it was obtained if the report is it being out of progression, etc.

10-17-2017, 11:15 PM	#2
Pioneer Member Posts: n/a	Looks like some of stuff lost its blue stats: https://gyazo.com/822ab8b7136fc44b2975f38b4999f34f get from trash mob

10-18-2017, 12:07 AM	#3
Aenile Member Posts: n/a	BLUF: Please make crossbow swappable to 1h for Ranger. I noticed in the stream they mentioned we were all getting a crossbow. They even mentioned that it wasn't just going to be a ranger item (or scout) The irony is rangers will be the only class that won't want to use it because it's the same slot as their epic 2.0.

10-18-2017, 01:57 AM	#4
Lyricus New Member Posts: n/a	Channelers too.

10-18-2017, 02:02 AM	#5
Geobaldi01 New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Whats worse is its double bugged. Ranger and Channeler abilities that require a bow will NOT work with the current crossbow.

10-18-2017, 02:23 AM	#6
Nucleaar New Member Posts: n/a	https://gyazo.com/39fea24e0755b2e930481a4866b66c3d Drop from trash mob.

10-18-2017, 02:50 AM	#7
Nucleaar New Member Posts: n/a	It appears the Wand from Tishan's Box wants ammo to use. Is this a norm now, or unintended?

10-18-2017, 04:54 AM	#8
Luciar Active Member Posts: n/a	Wrist of Magical Visions from trash is missing blue stats Waistband of Ausipice Protection is missing blue stats

10-18-2017, 05:01 AM	#9
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Augury Bangle of Presage from an ornate chest is missing blue stats, too

10-18-2017, 06:52 AM	#10
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Starting Gear: Cloaks, belts, rings and neck have only white adorn slots Ethereal adorns, PG oranges, green adorn slots.. all are missing.

10-18-2017, 07:00 AM	#11
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The attack speed on the starting gear is waaaaaaay too high. For example: Alubox Battle Cap: 273.6 attack speed Obdurate Awe Leather Tunic: 334.6 attack speed Each exceeds the hard cap on usable attack speed... the tunic by over 100. And that doesn't count the attack speed on the various other pieces of gear. What is the reasoning behind having gear with numbers SO far in excess of usable, let alone useful, stat values?

10-18-2017, 01:49 PM	#12
Auxao New Member Posts: n/a	Attack speed converts to flurry. Yes, flurry can be quite easy to (over)cap as well, but that is "the reasoning" as you asked, behind gear having stats like that. It gives people options for reaching caps on other stats..

10-18-2017, 04:13 PM	#13
Loxfin New Member Posts: n/a	My two cents, From the preview it looks like its shoots and reloads like a bow. So whats the point... aside of screwing over anyone who did the epic that uses the ranged slot. Now make it burst fire or shoot faster... but really its kinda just a screw to rangers unless you make it with the same stats as the Epics for that slot... then its still a screw as people will have two epics more or less... in all you should make it so weak nobody would ever use it... or take it out ...

10-18-2017, 05:00 PM	#15
Taiyla New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Just wondering why the crossbow bolts won't go into the ammo pouch. You can't use the crossbow gotten from the beta buffer since it doesn't see the ammo.

10-18-2017, 05:56 PM	#17
Pioneer Member Posts: n/a	looks like some procs are broken: https://gyazo.com/dc2997a16d7a626638d87109208b38f4

10-18-2017, 10:43 PM	#18
Zannya New Member Posts: n/a	How do we go about using the cross bow? I have all the bolts in my bag, but they will not go into my ammo pouch. I do not have a quiver as I had to create a new lady on beta and only have the pouch that came in the armor crate?

10-19-2017, 01:13 AM	#19
Jazzalyn New Member Posts: n/a	Item: Essence of the Dancing Ignus Dropped: Plane of Magic off trash mobs No blue stats

10-19-2017, 08:05 AM	#20
Fyreflyte Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Items missing blue stats in the overland have been fixed, as has the issue with wands giving an error that they require ammo. Both fixes will be included with the next patch.

10-19-2017, 05:36 PM	#21
Gnomfu New Member Posts: n/a	remove the ammo pouch and put a stack of bolts in it's place. you have to reapply a stack when the 200 run out, but you can use the crossbow.

10-19-2017, 05:52 PM	#22
Alenna Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	the crossbow is no good for rangers since it is not recognized as a bow.

10-20-2017, 12:28 AM	#25
Elfrina New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Beta copy still not working

10-20-2017, 03:19 PM	#27
Beee Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2	We need an orange rune with Paragon because of the replacement of >> THESE << ranged items by the crossbow. Hope somebody thinks about it Paragon doubles the effect of Elemental Amalgation (ASC - Elementalist lv 10)

10-20-2017, 05:45 PM	#28
OkieDoh New Member Posts: n/a	Still no beta copy.

10-20-2017, 06:21 PM	#29
Nero New Member Posts: n/a	Beee said: ↑ “We need an orange rune with Paragon because of the replacement of >> THESE << ranged items by the crossbow. Hope somebody thinks about it Paragon doubles the effect of Elemental Amalgation (ASC - Elementalist lv 10)” While we are on this topic: Can the tanks please, please get an orange rune to replace the "Awakened Enlightenment" effect on our Epic 2.0 charm? http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/2776648858 There is currently nothing in game that adds the reflect to Bulwark of Rime outside of that 1 item, and it will become hard to justify wearing it if everything else has an extra 20 resolve and an extra 2k potency.

10-20-2017, 06:23 PM	#30
Kuulei Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Caith said: ↑ “It's a bug, we're working on it now but it is being stubborn. Crossbows should work with all attacks that require bows.” Those that can't use bows, are getting no benefits from this crossbow. As a warden, I cannot use a bow and when equipped, I miss with every use. It sounded good in theory, to give everyone a "cool crossbow" but you may have an issue with getting the mechanics to work across all classes