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Old 03-12-2012, 07:36 PM   #1
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The New Era Combine Meeting-It's great stuff. Just wish we could have stayed to find out all of the details of the pact going into the New Combine Empire.

-Lucan in charge of the New Combine Empire military....yeah scary but I can see why she had to make that choice. I love how the Queen tossed in his face the fact she had adventurers save him from RT's palace.

From http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...=515932#5730512

Does this mean that we're getting Katta Castellum or Katta Castrum at some point? While I loved Katta Castellum I was really hoping that after the Ages End arc finally finished that we'd get an unique expansion, not more EQ1 rehashed. Maybe I'm reading too much into that quote above.

Anyone have a character on Test Copy that could get the dialogues from the new sig quest? Would love to see them and none of my characters are remotely close to even glancing at Drunder content.

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Kinda hard for Katta Castrum to be put into this game. Can't really put in what doesn't canonically exist.

Anyways, if I had to guess, Lucan and Antonia are probably going to start up a new Combine Empire.. exactly what it says. Try to get all the races from all over Norrath will put aside their differences in order to focus on peace, knowledge, and a unified army to fight off any threat that presents itself to Norrath.

Pretty much what everyone has already done since Anashti Sul threatened her return in TSO.

It probably wouldn't have anything to do with actually going back to the physical locations of the old empire.

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Heh, should be interesting to imagine about whether Lucan will eventually rule the roost in the new empire or some countermeasures will emerge against Lucan's plans.

And can't wait for what we'll get to experience Post-Age's End Prophecy.

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I am quite happy that the storyline is finally moving some, even at a snails' pace.  I am only disheartened that at this pace we won't see Ages' End come to a conclusion late this year, at its earliest, and the start of the next chapter, sometime in 2013.  Hopefully some lore and story quests can be pushed out more frequently in between the larger quarterly game updates.

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Old 03-13-2012, 01:42 PM   #5
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I wonder which faction of combine it is loyalist or seruites? Man, I can see Lucan as such a bigger badder seru

Either way, very exciting and I hope this leads into the shissar/hissing of the serpent!

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Old 03-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #6
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I hope that if the Katta Castrum story line is going to be brought to EQ2 that they keep the same storyline of the Shissar using the combine to fuel the rebuilding of their empire and their plans to return control to Kunark

I wonder if the Sathirians could hold up against a newly formed army of Shissar masters!

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:00 PM   #7
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No events after PoP forced land masses to appear from nowhere they were only discovered.

If places were dicoverer after PoP, there is no reason they are not out there.

AoD spoiler thread we kinda talked about the combine http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509888

'volatile child of Tsaph Katta'

"its grave markers pock this world"

EQ2 its self reflects similar comparisons to The Combine empire. We start the game as a scattered thinned out population of races which had us think everything has faded during the between time of eq1 and eq2

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AoD spoiler thread we kinda talked about the combine http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509888

'volatile child of Tsaph Katta'

"its grave markers pock this world"

*quote snipped*

Boog, your assumption was correct back then, and now Norrath is about to experience it! 

Tiressiaz said, "Tsaph Katta's volatile child is to be resurrected. Its grave markers pock this world. Choke upon its tenantzz."

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If the Shissar were to try and return to Kunark, they would be opposed at all sides by the Sarnak of Gorowyn, the Sathirian Empire, Teren's Grasp, and the Di'Zok, to say nothing of the giants, drolvarg, or the remnants of the Ring of Scale and their droag army.

As for the whole races unifying...that will not last very long. If, at all. Dark elves are going to hate high elves, and vice versa. Iksar are going to hate everyone except their own. The big problem is probably the undying emnity between the two main elf races, the wood elves aside.

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Old 03-13-2012, 08:29 PM   #10
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but dark elves love wood elves... 

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:40 PM   #11
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Kaitheel wrote:

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AoD spoiler thread we kinda talked about the combine http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509888

'volatile child of Tsaph Katta'

"its grave markers pock this world"

*quote snipped*

Boog, your assumption was correct back then, and now Norrath is about to experience it! 

Tiressiaz said, "Tsaph Katta's volatile child is to be resurrected. Its grave markers pock this world. Choke upon its tenantzz."

~Kaitheel

I wondered about that line during that quest. Had forgotten about it afterward though, good catch Boog.

So who is ressurecting Tsaph Katta's "volatile child"?

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I believe that would be the combine empire as his child

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Old 03-13-2012, 11:15 PM   #13
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Talking about stuff that is on test seems a bit premature but the combine empire is a long standing topic.

The Combine Empire is dead folks. Most of us are living on top of its remains. The Combine Empire covered all of Tunaria which is the modern day Antonica, D'Lere, Thundering Stepps, Nektulous Forest, Enchanted Lands, Zek, Lavastorm and Everfrost. Also they had holdings on Fadewyr. Basically everywhere on Norrath that has a Spire had a Combine presence with the exception of Kingdom of Sky and Odus.

When the Combine Empire fell the main players in the Empire went to Luclin either in retreat or following after the nobility to kill them. When both sides were cut off from Norrath the cities of the empire were left to their own devices and the ones we know today just continued on. Qeynos, Freeport and Nerriak are clearly combine era cities. We have lore evidence to prove that Nerriak joined the Combine Empire shortly before it fell!

While it is possible for more ruins of the empire to be discovered, that has nothing to do with what is being discussed on the Test forum. Antonia is proposing to have a new Empire founded with Lucan and Freeport joining Qeynos. Probably this deal includes the other cities as well. It may or may not include the Satherian Empire. I would guess not, but since I haven't seen the quest series I can't say. I'd guess Thurgadin would be in on it, and the Claws of Veeshan since Yelnik is present.

They could of chosen to call it anything, but I think the chose the name New Combine Empire because they are trying to evoc the legitimacy and memory of the Combine's all encompasing empire. One that could accept all races and unite Norrath, possibly to face the End of Days.

Honestly I think it would of been more clear if they had chosen a new name, but its more exciting if they use the Combine name. Oh well.

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Old 03-14-2012, 12:09 AM   #14
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the Dark elves never joined the combine empire, I don't think. there were 'present' at the last official function, and it stated that they were there because that's how much pull the Combine had. not that they were actually a part of it.

and I think in the new quest, Neriak actually attempts a hit on Lucan...so I don't think Cristanos is going to be joining forces anytime soon.

and apparently the deal is Antonia want's to be the 'ruler' with Lucan as her primary general...more then likely to unite to face Kerafyrm/End of Days. in a situation of 'we have common enemies..and I'm better on social issues and your better on military ones. so we'll join forces, and I'll run things becuase I'm better at that sort of thing, and you control the military, since your much better in that.' I read the test thread and apparently antonia does take a cheap shot about her sending folks to help Lucan's capture by Theer as a jab to get him to agree.

and I imagine the 'New Combine Empire' will last exactly as long as it takes to confront that threat before Lucan tries to pull a Seru on Antonia. but since neither of these two trust eachother like Tsaph did with Seru...we'll see how that turns out.

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They *WERE* going to join if that night had gone without incident. Also: The Iksar have gotten over their extreme malicious hatred of other races in the last 500 years. Venril Sathir has given most of his own citizens sufficient reason to turn that hatred towards him instead.
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Well this quest is going live tomorrow, hope someone can post their log of the dialogues.

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I imagine the 'New Combine Empire' will last exactly as long as it takes to confront that threat before Lucan tries to pull a Seru on Antonia. but since neither of these two trust eachother like Tsaph did with Seru...we'll see how that turns out.

Maybe it will be what leads to Qeynos needing its revamp?

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There is no way for the Shissar to return, they are well and truly dead.  Their last bastion was Ssra temple, on Luclin.

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i doubt it, they're one of the most loved races of everquest

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I'm doing the quest now. Do you guys want me to just post uncropped screenshots or? I'm currently taking screenshots of all the dialog in the chat window and key pictures that bring a lot of lore and flavor into it.When I gave my feedback on this quest, the dev responded with saying he would bring more to the next quests to make them more engaging AND he plans on not making previous Fallen Swords series quests be requirements for the parts that launch with or after Skyshrine update(thats how I interrpreted what he said).

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Cyliena wrote:

Well this quest is going live tomorrow, hope someone can post their log of the dialogues.  

Live as in on the live servers, or live as in on Test?

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[email protected]_old wrote:

Cyliena wrote:

Well this quest is going live tomorrow, hope someone can post their log of the dialogues.  

Live as in on the live servers, or live as in on Test?

It's live right now on all US servers.

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[email protected]_old wrote:

Cyliena wrote:

Well this quest is going live tomorrow, hope someone can post their log of the dialogues.  

Live as in on the live servers, or live as in on Test?

It's live right now on all US servers.

I feel very silly because I have no idea where this quest begins or anything. Was there some announcement that I missed? The only reason I caught it was because of this post, otherwise I'd have totally not known!

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Players who have completed the quest “The Fallen Swords: All Roads Lead To...” should check their mailboxes for a letter from the Duality himself.  Another chapter in the Age’s End saga is about to unfold, and he will be looking for help.  Seek him out in Thurgadin once more.

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Ah, I see now why I didn't know there was anything further. I still need to kill Bonewing SMILEY.

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i doubt it, they're one of the most loved races of everquest

No more so than the Vah Shir, the Akheva, the Grimlings, or any of the other myriad races on Luclin, which ALSO perished when the moon, you know, blew up.

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This game is based on myths, magic, and fantasy. Ssraeshza Temple could be a space ship, other forms of travel non combine does and could exsist else where. 

You might notice that Norraths Anthropology is similar or even taking from earths myths and conspiracy theories.

All four sub-fields of Anthropology have to exsist in order to have a such a epic story that spreads over many games; cannon from each of each could be compare to real life  religious text. (Minus after PoP thats when Quinn Mallory of San Francisco, California changed everything we know.)

 Btw Thank you Kaitheel for popping in, I'm not saying that just cuz it was a quote from my own post, it means alot to all of the Lore fans to have a in house in the fourm.

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Oh for God's sake.

Is it so hard to accept that the moon blew up and everything on it died?

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Oh for God's sake.

Is it so hard to accept that the moon blew up and everything on it died?

Yes. Because the world has magic, and the Shissar already predicted the eventual destruction of Luclin. Who's to say they haven't survived that?

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kelvmor wrote:

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Oh for God's sake.

Is it so hard to accept that the moon blew up and everything on it died?

Yes. Because the world has magic, and the Shissar already predicted the eventual destruction of Luclin. Who's to say they haven't survived that?

Just because the Shissar predicted their destruction countless millenia ago doesn't mean that any of them cared in the present time.

How many of you still keep fresh in your memory that one soldier who died during the crusades? You know, the one that died with countless others? Probably none of you. How many Shissar kept fresh in thier memory that the moon that their  race made their new home in was going to be destroyed? Probably nobody who had enough power of pursuasion to make Emperor Ssra actually give a dang.

There are people out there who would willingly accept their deaths whenever it may come. Many soldiers throughout history believed that there was no greater honor than to die on the battlefield, and would accept that possibility with dignity if it truely was their time to die. I bet that if any Shissar knew when the moon was going to blow up, they decided they'd rather blow up than die by the hands of the Greenmist again. Nothing was scarier to them than that.

.... Anyway, I like the idea that the aspect of building a new Combine Empire might be a good reason to revamp Qeynos. It's still not a good reason to actually do so in the game, but at least it makes sense in the story.

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Cusashorn wrote:

kelvmor wrote:

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Oh for God's sake.

Is it so hard to accept that the moon blew up and everything on it died?

Yes. Because the world has magic, and the Shissar already predicted the eventual destruction of Luclin. Who's to say they haven't survived that?

Just because the Shissar predicted their destruction countless millenia ago doesn't mean that any of them cared in the present time.

How many of you still keep fresh in your memory that one soldier who died during the crusades? You know, the one that died with countless others? Probably none of you. How many Shissar kept fresh in thier memory that the moon that their  race made their new home in was going to be destroyed? Probably nobody who had enough power of pursuasion to make Emperor Ssra actually give a dang.

There are people out there who would willingly accept their deaths whenever it may come. Many soldiers throughout history believed that there was no greater honor than to die on the battlefield, and would accept that possibility with dignity if it truely was their time to die. I bet that if any Shissar knew when the moon was going to blow up, they decided they'd rather blow up than die by the hands of the Greenmist again. Nothing was scarier to them than that.

Ok, let me get this strait. Luclin blowing up when your on it is less scary than dying to the Greenmist? The Shissar knew about both events due to the calendar. If they were going to accept their fate, why move an entire temple to Luclin? Why become liches? All of what the Shissar did was to prolong their lives (long enough for wave upon wave of adventurers to slaughter them).

A better argument would be lore-wise the most powerful Shissar were dead before the shattering and they couldn't move the temple back to Norrath. The inter-dimensional raiders never figured on being raided themselves. Funny.

Or it is even possible that the Shissar now exist in the Hero Realms or some other plane of existance. They couldn't go back to Norrath out of fear of the Greenmist. They couldn't stay on Luclin. Who says they didn't move on elsewhere? Heck, they could of made deals with Rallos or Ro while Luclin was occupied by their forces.

I'd say the Shissar should be dead, but that isn't a guarentee until EQ2 stops developing new content. Lets just point to Beastlords as a prime example.

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