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Old 05-06-2005, 01:41 AM   #1
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The disparity is way too obvious. Thanks SOE for not taking care of this gross disparity correctly the first time (pre-release). I just want you to know that this has really affected how many people feel about the class.
 
I suggest that you not NERF WARLOCKS or their boards will look like the wizard boards and you will have one more unhappy group of people until everyone becomes unhappy.
 
Demonstrate your awarenes of customer service and leave warlocks alone. I rather have an inferior wizard next to a powerful warlock instead of two useless casters. You cause casters to be seen as a liability in a group and the will discourage experience groups from using them.
 
As it stands it appears that at level 50 wizards are of no use to a raid except for mana transfers.  
 
Thank You......for designating our primary job. SOE should really post that in the sub-class description so people do not make a mistake and pick a class they will be unhappy with.
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Old 05-06-2005, 01:52 AM   #2
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Personally I think that is pretty great. I wish I could do that solo. The bad part is that it takes forever and it is probably a one shot kill for the warlock if the root breaks. I hope they bump wizzies up to doing around the same damage if they haven't already.
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Old 05-06-2005, 08:55 AM   #3
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A few shots would kill him yeah.  A wizard could do exactly this at 45 if only 1 thing -- more efficient dps.  We pay the price of less efficienct nukes for higher burst dps.  I bet a warlock less than 45 could do this.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:50 AM   #4
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What does this have to do with test server? I come to this forum to see what happening on the server and alls i finde is another stupid post about wis/war form a person who doesnt know howto play their char?????? Nice, thx for that. I can solo ^^ 4 lvls hier than me.

 

Im lvl 45, and thats not even high. What lvl are you? Low 30s i bet huh.

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Old 05-06-2005, 11:20 AM   #5
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Yup, poor nukers. Not that there are other classes that are completely unbalanced, like assassin/ranger being outdamaged by fighters.
 
Nono luv for the wizzies please.
 
 
Maybe you're doing a bit less dmg than warlocks, but that's no reason to whine (in the compleeeeetely wrong forum), because you're still a very good dd.
 
The whining in these boards is getting even more annoying than in the DAoC VN Boards, and I didn't think that anything else could get near _that_..
 
 
 
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Old 05-06-2005, 12:40 PM   #6
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well im a 50 wizard and  i got news for you people.
I  can solo things other classes dream about SMILEY Not  jokeing. Now with my good mana regain in combat i can solo just aout any heroic mob in game if i need.
Was in Feerrott last night and soloed the Magus that i saw a 50 scout try and fail at.  Heres the deal with us wizards thou. its a one shot deal. Mob gets to me I die.  one resit on my root i have to run. Anything goes wrong i have to run. It takes a very skilled wizard that know the timeing on his roots and spells to do it.
 
As for Warlocks there aoe spells own mine hands down. My aoe spells are a joke compared to a warlocks and there roots own mine also.
 
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:05 PM   #7
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What do you think this thread will accomplish? SOE will see it and say "hey, we should make it so wizards can solo ^^^ heroic mobs too!"?? No. They will just nerf Warlocks if anything, which hurts every warlock and everyone who ever groups with one. If you dont believe me, you haven't been playing SOE games very long.
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:39 PM   #8
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I can assure everyone that a 45 warlock taking down a 50^^ is the exception and not the rule. I mean, geez, people posting here think Warlocks are gods. The fact is this guy has some skill and a whole bunch of luck. He should be congradulated. It's not everyday when this happens.

Personally I'd like to say I've done it all the time but I can't. I can't even say I've done it once. For that matter, I haven't successfully soloed any ^^ higher than green since about level 23 or so. In a normal everyday fight, the root and then the follow up stun would have been resisted and the guy would have gotten splatted in 1-2 hits. Sure we have an AOE root that is unbreakable for 20 seconds and we have a stun that lasts 10.7 seconds. But I'm here to tell ya that I'm level 47 and when I solo 42 green ^^ mobs, both my root and stun are resisted about half the time. Heck, I dont dare try to solo anything even blue ^^. I've been killed in one shot by those before. I wouldnt dare do what this guy did and I'm 2 levels higher with all adept 1 with my main nukes at adept 3. Kudos to this guy. For the rest of you, dont believe the hype. Warlocks are not gods, we are tissue paper with an attitude. A strong wind kills us on occassion.

As a side note, (breathless anticipation for the forthcoming sarcasm) I wish I could solo mobs 4 levels higher than me on a regular basis. Me and everyone else I know must not know how to play their classes correctly and really suck!:smileysurprised:

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Old 05-06-2005, 06:41 PM   #9
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Holy moly, that was some awesome fight. My 39 wizard now semi-retired (taken over by my 43 templar), would always get root resisted or break within seconds or the root and nuke technique... But wow, nice work by the warlock.
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:50 PM   #10
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Lady Uaelrea wrote:
 
The disparity is way too obvious. Thanks SOE for not taking care of this gross disparity correctly the first time (pre-release). I just want you to know that this has really affected how many people feel about the class.
 
I suggest that you not NERF WARLOCKS or their boards will look like the wizard boards and you will have one more unhappy group of people until everyone becomes unhappy.
 
Demonstrate your awarenes of customer service and leave warlocks alone. I rather have an inferior wizard next to a powerful warlock instead of two useless casters. You cause casters to be seen as a liability in a group and the will discourage experience groups from using them.
 
As it stands it appears that at level 50 wizards are of no use to a raid except for mana transfers.  
 
Thank You......for designating our primary job. SOE should really post that in the sub-class description so people do not make a mistake and pick a class they will be unhappy with.

Funny, the first person I saw do this was, in fact, a wizard. She did it time after time after time while my guild was gathering to kill Mag. There are a lot of classes that can do this kind of thing.
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Old 05-06-2005, 08:04 PM   #11
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Wizards can, in fact, do this as well. Really not hard at all if you know your class. Sure there are risks involved but that comes with the territory. It sometimes takes a few /yell and runs but its easily doable by a wizards as well. Alot of classes can do such things. Use your abilities to their highest potential.
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Old 05-08-2005, 05:54 AM   #12
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Eadric wrote: Funny, the first person I saw do this was, in fact, a wizard. She did it time after time after time while my guild was gathering to kill Mag. There are a lot of classes that can do this kind of thing.
None of them in the scout family. Well to be honest if we have  an open area, with no other agro mobs around we could kite it for an hour. But there is no way in hell a scout in that zone with the number of adds around that mob could do it at that lvl. SMILEY
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:26 AM   #13
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Yeah, scouts are the weakest soloers it seems.
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:15 AM   #14
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Do you really need to make 10,000 new threads complaing that warlocks are so called "overpowered"?

Just fyi, there are *alot* and I mean alot of classes that can solo group mobs....

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Old 05-09-2005, 05:18 PM   #15
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Your threads are hilarious. Every one of them is crying about warlocks, but if anyone posts about soloing as a wizard, you throw a tantrum claiming it's impossible and telling people not to address you. Please grow up, you're not adding anything constructive to this forum.
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Old 05-09-2005, 05:46 PM   #16
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Beghard wrote:

What does this have to do with test server? I come to this forum to see what happening on the server and alls i finde is another stupid post about wis/war form a person who doesnt know howto play their char?????? Nice, thx for that. I can solo ^^ 4 lvls hier than me.

 

Im lvl 45, and thats not even high. What lvl are you? Low 30s i bet huh.

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Hehehe.  The only thing this has to do with test server is that you could never do it on test server.  Yellow/oj mobs are much stronger than they are on live.  I'm sure all of this will be jumbled and changed about after the skill rebalance.
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Old 05-09-2005, 07:19 PM   #17
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A Wizard can do this though...
 
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All I can say is "lol"
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:49 AM   #19
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Marlow wrote:
All I can say is "lol"


Thats an understatment.... SMILEY
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Old 05-10-2005, 03:16 PM   #20
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Looks like alot of root spell abuse to me, no way any class should be able to keep a mob in place like that for so long, roots need diminishing returns....something needs to be done to fix this sploitz
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Old 05-10-2005, 06:48 PM   #21
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Brawly wrote:
Looks like alot of root spell abuse to me, no way any class should be able to keep a mob in place like that for so long, roots need diminishing returns....something needs to be done to fix this sploitz


LOL...you think this needs to be nerfed.
 
I love it....everything is a nerf in this game. So strange how the majority of posters on these forums want things that are beneficial to class to be changed instead of being happy. Very wierd group of people.
 
Why don't posters want all classes to work well and have great and powerful spells.
 
1- Limited variation in armor.
 
2- Robes that spawn for some and not for others and then nearly impossible to get at higher levels.
 
3- Lack of content at level 50 unless you are in an active guild.
 
4- epic mobs that drop limited quality items.
 
5- Bots eevrywhere
 
6- CS tickets that do not work correctly.
 
7- Poor forum feedback.
 
8- Broken spells
 
9- Malfunctioning game mechanics
10- Spells that do nothing to epics..(really funny)
 
11- Camping........ever camping...having to compete with other players for mobs.
 
12- Spell lines that do not upgrade ( this was addressed - I will not hold my breathe).
 
13- Masters that are drop...instead of questable.
 
14- Making one of the best robes for raids (robe of Invoker) not available for level 50 players unless they camp a rock for days.
 
15- Allowing all classes to wear very light armor.
 
16- nerfs and nerfs and more nerfs..................so many people are disappointed about so many things- so sad- this could be such an amazing game.
 
17- poor feedback from SOE on the boards and favortism
 
18- no real discussion from the SOE representatives about what changes are being made and how the community feels about it.
 
 

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Old 05-10-2005, 07:48 PM   #22
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Yes, warlocks are so overpowered that there are only 55 of them higher than lvl 33 on my server. Its like the 4th least popular class. There are a whole 2 other warlocks on my server my level. I love my class, and I'm sure these huge combat overhauls coming are already going to change the feel of it drastically, please don't use us as some sort of point of comparison to what other classes should be like. Want to be like a warlock, make a warlock... don't make a flooded class more like a ghost class cause of some sort of class envy. Enjoy what you have thats unique to you or reroll, and hope SOE keeps your class fun after the patch hits the fan.

Good players can do amazing things with just about any class, provided they have the gear/upgrades/skills.

Please don't take what a very small % of people can do (or choose to) and "balance" around that.

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Old 05-10-2005, 09:03 PM   #23
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If you have not read the other posts-- it was explained that the level 45 warlock that did that died 6 times and did not gain experience but debt. 
 
It is still impressive that a solo character at level 45 was able to accomplish this.
 
If you read before you post you would not be careless comments.
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:35 PM   #24
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Actually that fire giant is ripe for soloing by casters with roots.

Has everyone forgotten the teleport pad 2 steps to the warlocks right that will take him to safety the momment his roots fail to land?

Every caster with a root in the game could try this time and again and sooner or later their luck on the rolls would get them the same result at level 45. Simply because you have a zone to your left soluseks eye and a teleport to your right to the dock......how on earth could a caster end up dying when the method of escape is so easy?

I'm a level 50 Wizard, I don't play with that many warlocks but to tell you the truth I never see the damage any other player does because I don't focus on being "better" then a warlock or a scout I focus on killing the mobs and helping support the group with utility. There are a few broken spells Wizards have such as protoflame, ice comet resistances to raid mobs and a bit too much power usage on spells also perhaps lacking some more damage in our best aoe spells but none of it makes me feel Im broken or lacking...... If youre a wizard and youre unhappy with a spell we have then by all means look at it but don't look at another class and say "we should be doing that too" Warlocks I bet are looking at our ability to power feed the tank or healer when the group is about to wipe or the fact we can hit evac and they are thinking [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot].......wish we could do that.

The ammount of times power transfers and evac have saved me and groups I am with time and death is countless to have those abilities and STILL be within reach of warlock pure dps is in my opinion a good thing.

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Old 05-12-2005, 04:34 PM   #25
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Frostpaw - your response is probably "the" best reponsive I've seen in this epic debate.  Make all the classes better - don't nerf anyone and we all win.
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Old 05-14-2005, 12:25 AM   #26
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"Frostpaw - your response is probably "the" best reponsive I've seen in this epic debate.  Make all the classes better - don't nerf anyone and we all win." I agree.. Lady just wants to be uber. She posted this same thread like 4 times now all over the forums. The best part is she got it tossed right back in her face. "Wizards can't do this" and then a Wizard did it. Lady for the love of all that is holy, just shut up about it already.
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Old 05-16-2005, 08:07 PM   #27
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Hemm... excuse me folks, maybe I'm missing the point so please I need some clarification;

as I can see, here we have some poeple (doing insane damages) complaining other people (doing insane damage as well), because the first can't deal the same insane damage than the second? 

 

(If I'm correct), is this thread a silly joke ????

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Old 05-16-2005, 09:20 PM   #28
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Sadly is a reality, but wont last for long, for every 3 people who brag and show off Soe will throw a nerf. Which means, 1) they have no idea how to tweak the classes, 2) they are no where near to balancing classes yet. So expect a nerf just like every other class have had and thank your loudmouths. Soloing an epic x2 sigh* what did you think showing that would accomplish but get you nerfed.

 

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