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Old 04-25-2005, 11:59 AM   #1
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yah just wondering what you guys think i should get.
 
i already have
 
nil absolution
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bony grasp
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im thinking maybe aspect of darkness or wicked gift but ive seen stats on aspect and im not too fond of it. also maybe abysmal fury but havent seen anything on it either.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:21 PM   #2
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Grisly Contract or Wicked Gift would be the two I'd pick from if I were in your shoes (but am no where close to your shoes yet). GC would probably be the one I'd pick first.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:47 PM   #3
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hey,I dont suppose you could post details of Bony Grasp adept 3 could you?
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Old 04-25-2005, 03:15 PM   #4
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Bony Grasp Adept 3 is the exact same as every other version of Bony Grasp (36 second duration, 45 recast). I'm assuming the only reason for upgrading is to reduce resists.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:18 PM   #5
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maddawg138 wrote:
yah just wondering what you guys think i should get.
 
i already have
 
nil absolution
devastation
dark nebula
bony grasp
torment of shadows
 
 
im thinking maybe aspect of darkness or wicked gift but ive seen stats on aspect and im not too fond of it. also maybe abysmal fury but havent seen anything on it either.

Grisly Contract then Chaotic Maelstrom would be my recommendations.
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Old 04-26-2005, 12:39 PM   #6
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Wrong, Chaotic Maelstrom before Grisly to max out the effectiveness from Torment of Shadows, Dark Nebula, Devastation and Nil Ab. E.g. - Fully debuffed, my Torment of Shadows Master 1 does 178 dmg per tick at 49. Its damage scales down a lot when you have only Chaotic or Curse of Emp on the mob - its damage is pathetic without any debuffs. Chaotic increases debuff counters on mob, increasing the effectiveness of your spells (less resist, more dmg). ANyways, Grisly uses too many hps for conversion to be really useful.
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Old 04-26-2005, 05:21 PM   #7
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i never use GC ever really unless im doing insane DPS  where im going all out on all my spells which is rare...and chaotic maelstrom ive seen the adept 3 version of it...doesnt seem like its worth the ruby to upgrade. anyway someone can post the adept 3 @lvl 50 for it so i can compare to my adept 1 version of it.
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:16 PM   #8
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Alfred75 wrote:
Wrong, Chaotic Maelstrom before Grisly to max out the effectiveness from Torment of Shadows, Dark Nebula, Devastation and Nil Ab.

E.g. - Fully debuffed, my Torment of Shadows Master 1 does 178 dmg per tick at 49. Its damage scales down a lot when you have only Chaotic or Curse of Emp on the mob - its damage is pathetic without any debuffs. Chaotic increases debuff counters on mob, increasing the effectiveness of your spells (less resist, more dmg). ANyways, Grisly uses too many hps for conversion to be really useful.

Heh how can my recommendation be 'wrong' it is my recommendation. You may have a different one, but that hardly invalidates mine. That being said, when it comes to raiding I find Grisly Contract to be extremely valuable...moreso than Chaotic Maelstrom (which I also recommended).
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:39 PM   #9
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Alfred75 wrote:Wrong, Chaotic Maelstrom before Grisly to max out the effectiveness from Torment of Shadows, Dark Nebula, Devastation and Nil Ab. E.g. - Fully debuffed, my Torment of Shadows Master 1 does 178 dmg per tick at 49. Its damage scales down a lot when you have only Chaotic or Curse of Emp on the mob - its damage is pathetic without any debuffs. Chaotic increases debuff counters on mob, increasing the effectiveness of your spells (less resist, more dmg). ANyways, Grisly uses too many hps for conversion to be really useful.
Heh how can my recommendation be 'wrong' it is my recommendation. You may have a different one, but that hardly invalidates mine. That being said, when it comes to raiding I find Grisly Contract to be extremely valuable...moreso than Chaotic Maelstrom (which I also recommended).

Lol ok, just a matter of opinion SMILEY In raids, with a chanter being able to breeze the whole raid, you would probably never run out of power, especially if you have a bard in your group as well. Comparing Grisly to Invite Void, I would go Invite Void. Grisly takes away too much health really, especially if you are in a raid with AOE mobs. Chaotic is good because the debuff not only helps with ALL the warlocks damage and damage resistance on mobs, it also helps the rest of the raid players to get their poison and disease procs/nukes in. All in all, it really depends on whether your priorities - raid or self.....
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:50 PM   #10
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I can only DREAM of having 6 T5 Adept 3's.... since reading this post, I have begun my Adept 3 wish list :smileywink:

 

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Old 05-02-2005, 03:03 AM   #11
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The first one i upgraded was Grisly Contract, and ill tell you why.

It might not matter how much power you gain in 1 shift (health to power havesting) at lvl 50 on raids.
But at lvl 42 in a group with no "breezer" and your main dps, you will find this spell worth all your presious gold SMILEY

At Adept 1 GC converts at a ratio like this 400 health gives you 219 power, if you upgrade you get... 51% PP pr. HP
at Adept 3 425 Health = 326 Power  = 76% PP pr. HP

A way better ratio for your adept 3, i havent seen stats on master1, but i hope to get it at my B-day SMILEY

A shift like that 3 times in a fight with a "named" or raid mob, and that should give you an extra damage around 10-15k if you use it all up, but with this i usally get out with 30%+ power left, and normal group mobs i make one shift at end of fight and comes out with 70-80% power left, some good drinks and your almost at full power before your tank can yell ... INC -  please help me say this foul best ( god they tent to run into trouble all the time those dumb fighters):smileyvery-happy:

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Old 05-02-2005, 05:37 PM   #12
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chaotic maelstrom adept 3 adds about 50 more debuff and a slightly better dot.  in my opinion, that's not as important as the much better conversion ratio you get with GC adept 3.

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Old 05-03-2005, 01:09 PM   #13
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k i chose nihilism as i use it more than any other spell at the moment...its got a decent proc on it as well as a debuff to poison and disease.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:50 PM   #14
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Can you post those stats on Nihilism?
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:50 AM   #15
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Can you post the info on Torment of Shadows Ad3 and Nil Absolution ad3? Thanks

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Old 05-04-2005, 02:21 PM   #16
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but a few of the stats arent really what they seem...torment does about 149 fully debuffed a tick and i dont know what nihilism actually does as i never melee ^_^ but these are all of my T5 adept 3's i have....got a 7th one earlier today. Aspect of Darkness...really not worth a ruby for.
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Old 05-06-2005, 04:51 PM   #17
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I'm 30% into 46 and sitting with 2 T5 inks in the bank. You guys have me frozen with indecsion on what to do with them.
Who knows when I'll be 50. Probably a couple more months cause I level slow. Use them now and harvest a rare later for Devastation?
Save one for Soul Flay when they fix it? Use them both now on Chaotic and Grisly because I can scribe them and make good use of them now?
 
What to do what to do :-/
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