The Scrivener's Tale: Tradeskill Signature Questline Feedback - Page 8

10-27-2018, 12:06 AM

The merchant Oleene in the Smith's Gallery needs to be stationary. It is very difficult to scroll through a shop list to find what you need if the merchant up and wanders away and the shop window closes because she wanders out of range. She is needed to purchase Prepared Malachite Shards at the beginning of the tradeskill line.

Niami DenMother · 10-27-2018, 02:53 AM

Eeee! I'm not sure when it was added, or if I have been blind all this time, but the things you need to catalog for Followup Friendships now show feathers after their name! Thank you!!!!!

10-27-2018, 03:05 AM

Copied Miragian over to test to do a bit with the TS line, he has not done the stuff for PoP adventure line and is not 110 Adventure. When I got over to test his mount is not active *nor summonable* in the library. So he's stuck at 50% run speed for some reason. Other character didn't have this issue and my wife was playing in here something like an hour ago and didn't have that issue on a beta buffed character.

10-27-2018, 04:11 AM

Mounts are weird in the library. Either zone back out the wizard spire, recast the mount, then return. Or else remove the mount from your mount page to your inventory, then replace it, and recast.

Niami DenMother · 10-27-2018, 06:45 AM

I'm guessing that the pack pony appearance is a feature in-progress.

I logged in on one of my folks who has finished the TS line, and her pack pony, which had been a normal pony (she didn't have the alternate appearance for the PoP pony, as she's not done the PoP crafting line) and I have a lovely pack snail labeled as a pack pony. I love him! But when I tried to check out if the toggling worked for him, I did the toggle appearance, and it turned into the purple/pink/blue PoP pony ... and stayed there, no matter how many times I selected the toggle appearance option. Gone was the white pack pony, gone was the snail with packages on top of his shell ... just the PoP appearance.

I relogged and the snail is back. It is very confused!

I have to admit, it is giving me more of a giggle than it probably should to get a "*whinny*" response from hailing a snail!

Niami DenMother · 10-29-2018, 10:06 AM

Tincture of Bark (one of the new rewards) -

Recipe requires kindling, but is crafted on the chemistry table. It should use celestial candle instead if it is using the chem table
Illusion only shows if you are dismounted, but it is VERY neat looking!
Descriptive text in the Spell Effects window is " This homemade food replenishes additional health during non-combat situations. Effects: Shapechanges caster."

Niami DenMother · 10-29-2018, 10:24 AM

Quest reward: Instructedible Cookie Recipe ... this scribes into "Instructedible Cookie" in your recipe book. However, since the quest combine recipes don't delete from your recipe book when you're done with the quest, you will end up with two "Instructedible Cookie" recipes in your book. If you're sleepily retesting stuff at after 2 a.m., you just might end up making the wrong one. /innocent whistle

Meanwhile, what does it do? The effects when you examine it says "Applies Edible Instructable when Activated" with no explanation of what that entails. I used one, but nothing really seemed to happen other than taking a charge off the stack. I see no new effects, etc.

Niami DenMother · 10-29-2018, 11:10 AM

Ok ... dear sweet Bristlebane on a purple piebald pony!

{flails arms around wildly}

As you might be able to tell by the fact that it is almost 3 a.m., and I am still here posting, I decided to see the new TS rewards that were added today for myself.

There's some really fun stuff here, and a couple thingsreward-wise that still need work.

On top of the posts that I made already, the ___'s Planar Adventures is a great idea with 3 lovely white adorn slots and all.

There are no crafting adorns (aka "Nails") for the charm slot, unless something was changed in the last few days. (We've also been begging for Nails that will fit in primary and cloak, so we can have something useful in our crafting "weapons" from the SF expansion, such as Kruzz's Cooking Skillet, as well as the many, many crafting cloaks that we have)

Nails are pretty restrictive in where they will go, so either the charm will have to be turned into something else, or we sort of need the Nails to fit there.

Our currently available crafting adorn slots are: head, chest, shoulders, forearms, hands, legs, feet, neck (only 1 Nail fits in the neck slot)

Niami DenMother · 10-29-2018, 11:16 AM

It should also be noted that a fresh alt who did the entire TS line tonight (but who did not do the PoP crafting line) cannot change the appearance of her pack pony to the pack snail appearance. I'm not sure if that's been pulled from being a reward while it is being fixed, or if she's just got problems because the ability to change your pony appearance came first from the PoP crafting line, and her pony isn't smart enough to learn how to do it on his own.

She is able to talk to the guild harvesters and get the (currently bugged) new harvesting quests, at least, so that part of the flagging is working.

Arieva · 10-29-2018, 11:52 AM

Was I the only one extremely disappointed to see the final reward was "another" item that summons a fuel merchant. Recycling rewards from old TS content....I think reward wise I was more excited about the 88 slot bag personally.

doit · 10-29-2018, 05:35 PM

Im sure many recent alts or even new players appreciate the fact that you get a item that summons a fuel merchant without having to do very old content..

everyone wins..
old players get something new also...new bag..and maybe the new final reward has better stats than old version?

Mermut · 10-29-2018, 06:01 PM

Side note:
There is no monetary reward for the various steps of the TS line.. so crafters are losing plat on every quest due to fuel cost.....

Gninja · 10-29-2018, 06:56 PM

Coin on those quests are in progress.

Gninja · 10-29-2018, 06:57 PM

Fixed the pack pony for tomorrow's update. It should toggle better now and remember choice on zoning.

Mermut · 10-29-2018, 07:06 PM

The Scrivener's Tale: Difficulties Delivering
some of the possible spawn pts for 'a strange bag' are not accessible w/o aggro
/waypoint 86.18, 58.96, 274.36 is one such location.

Niami DenMother · 10-29-2018, 08:53 PM

The new reward for Incumbent Incubation "Mourndax V'Zeaar" does not yet have art. Trying to preview it gives you the message that you need to patch. (35 rent status reduction seems like a really odd number to use, too)

Arieva · 10-29-2018, 10:38 PM

True but the way the tradeskill content has been structured up till this point has made it pretty "level independent". Domino made sure of that as she designed her lines. I don't see why going back to do the line that gave the fuel vendor would have been any kind of drag to someone who hasn't done it yet. Its not even that old of content.3 expacs prior? Now maybe some hardcore crafters have use for a second fuel merchant being available. I've never needed more than one an hour myself. Just my 2c.

Niami DenMother · 10-30-2018, 01:50 AM

As an FYI

Build 14357 - the de-aggroing from Rockin' n Knockin' is removed at the end of the quest, until such time as you relog/zone ... then they are fine from that point forward.

(i.e., they are non-aggro once you coat yourself with pollen, go aggro once you have handed it in UNTIL you relog or zone. Then the zone check works and they are non-aggro from that point forward

Mermut · 10-30-2018, 06:16 AM

Both the fluff rewards (hat and consumable illusion) are no-trade and no commission.
I sort of understand the hat, though the appearance isn't unique.
I wonder about the illusion though. Is there a reason it is both no-trade and no commission?

Niami DenMother · 10-30-2018, 07:01 AM

Sig line reward house item "Mourndax V'Zeaar" is now visible with build 14359 that went in tonight ... and I sort of wish he wasn't. :O

This tiny little version of him previews as bald and clad only in a pair of dark briefs. o_O

His placement outline while you are trying to place him comes up to about shin-high and still mostly naked.
Once placed, he doubles-ish in height to be about knee-high and properly clothed and coiffed. (Pack snail used as size comparison)

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If you try to resize him larger, you end up with this ....

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Yes, that really is a naked taller version of him with a clothed smaller version standing inside him, and it looks just as naughty from the back as it does from the front! Tongue

I think I am going to have nightmares tonight about a nearly-naked (dark) Elf on a Shelf for Frostfell!

On the plus side, the Pack SnailPony is now toggling appearances properly. Thank you!

Niami DenMother · 10-30-2018, 07:21 AM

Build 14359
Source of Discontent. I could swear that the "a Bubonian Runecarver" had a quest book over his head before tonight's patch, or that you said there'd be a map highlight for him, but there are neither tonight.

10-30-2018, 05:14 PM

Looks more to me like he scaled but his clothes did not. Either way, ewww!

Gninja · 10-30-2018, 05:19 PM

I think I missed that one, will add it right now. Thanks!

Niami DenMother · 10-31-2018, 03:21 AM

Build 14359

Pack snail issue - Pack pony loses snail appearance on zoning for characters who did not do the PoP crafting line. Instead, it morphs into the ceffyl illusion, which those same players should not have access to.

Crafters earned the ceffyl illusion for their pony during the PoP crafting line (along with the autonomous harvesting ability for the pony). Those who did not do that line should only have the original white pony look and the snail look as options, and the snail should persist on zoning.

(Folks who have completed the PoP crafting line as well as the CD line should have normal pony, ceffyl pony and snail as their toggle appearances, and their snail appearance properly stays on zoning/relogging.)

Niami DenMother · 10-31-2018, 10:22 PM

I assume you mean after tonight's patch, so I'll recheck then. If you mean now, it is an issue still with build 14361.

10-31-2018, 11:00 PM

Niami DenMother said: ↑

“Sig line reward house item "Mourndax V'Zeaar" is now visible with build 14359 that went in tonight ... and I sort of wish he wasn't. :O

This tiny little version of him previews as bald and clad only in a pair of dark briefs.
His placement outline while you are trying to place him comes up to about shin-high and still mostly naked.
Once placed, he doubles-ish in height to be about knee-high and properly clothed and coiffed. (Pack snail used as size comparison)

If you try to resize him larger, you end up with this ....

Yes, that really is a naked taller version of him with a clothed smaller version standing inside him, and it looks just as naughty from the back as it does from the front! I think I am going to have nightmares tonight about a nearly-naked (dark) Elf on a Shelf for Frostfell!

On the plus side, the Pack SnailPony is now toggling appearances properly. Thank you!”

Now see what you have gone and done? Now we need a few "elf on a shelf" varieties for Frostfell. I also saw on SharkTank "mensch on a bench".

10-31-2018, 11:10 PM

I was aggroed by a wasp while placing the beds for the quest The Scrivener's Tale: Incumbent Incubation around the last spot (133, 37, 248 ). Could it be possible to make sure that there are no wasps around that place?
She spawned just above the house for last bed (121, 48, 250 ) and can't be avoided at all.

10-31-2018, 11:55 PM

Whilhelmina said: ↑

“The Scrivener's Tale: The Reach of the Ivy
I gathered all the pottery parts, then went on to FAIL the craft on third bar on the step "Craft the pottery". I only got one of the shard of broken pottery back. I still have 2 vials of sticky sap in store as it only uses one, but the quest requires 3 shards of broken pottery, so I'm missing 2 and there's no pottery to smash around anymore. None of the NPC gives me back some shards and the bag next to Temry is not clickable either. So I'm stuck.
I deleted the quest and took it back. I had only 1 vial and 2 potteries to collect (it counted what I already had in inventory)
I had to destroy the extra recipe-book from inventory.

On turn in, Temry Loneivy in Vegarlson still only has a feather and not a book above his head.”

Now it uses 3 and 3 components, and we still get 1 shard of pottery back, but there's still no way to get more pottery if we fail the recipe. I had to delete the quest and take it back.

Gninja · 11-01-2018, 08:15 AM

This should be resolved today, let me know how it goes!

Gninja · 11-01-2018, 09:00 PM

I just verified on beta that if you delete the items and are on the "Craft" step you are still able to destroy pottery and get more shards. Where are you having the hang up?

Nevermind! I figured it out. Was a problem seeing them not destroying them.

10-27-2018, 04:11 AM	#214
Sigrdrifa Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Miragian said: ↑ “Copied Miragian over to test to do a bit with the TS line, he has not done the stuff for PoP adventure line and is not 110 Adventure. When I got over to test his mount is not active nor summonable in the library. So he's stuck at 50% run speed for some reason. Other character didn't have this issue and my wife was playing in here something like an hour ago and didn't have that issue on a beta buffed character.” Mounts are weird in the library. Either zone back out the wizard spire, recast the mount, then return. Or else remove the mount from your mount page to your inventory, then replace it, and recast.

10-29-2018, 10:06 AM	#216
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Tincture of Bark (one of the new rewards) - Recipe requires kindling, but is crafted on the chemistry table. It should use celestial candle instead if it is using the chem table Illusion only shows if you are dismounted, but it is VERY neat looking! Descriptive text in the Spell Effects window is " This homemade food replenishes additional health during non-combat situations. Effects: Shapechanges caster."

10-29-2018, 06:56 PM	#223
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Mermut said: ↑ “Side note: There is no monetary reward for the various steps of the TS line.. so crafters are losing plat on every quest due to fuel cost.....” Coin on those quests are in progress.

10-29-2018, 10:38 PM	#227
Arieva New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	doit said: ↑ “Im sure many recent alts or even new players appreciate the fact that you get a item that summons a fuel merchant without having to do very old content.. everyone wins.. old players get something new also...new bag..and maybe the new final reward has better stats than old version?” True but the way the tradeskill content has been structured up till this point has made it pretty "level independent". Domino made sure of that as she designed her lines. I don't see why going back to do the line that gave the fuel vendor would have been any kind of drag to someone who hasn't done it yet. Its not even that old of content.3 expacs prior? Now maybe some hardcore crafters have use for a second fuel merchant being available. I've never needed more than one an hour myself. Just my 2c.

10-30-2018, 01:50 AM	#228
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Gninja said: ↑ “I added a check on the zone so when you reenter (zoning in or logging in from camping there) the spell gets reapplied to you. This will remain even after the quests are done. Happy harvesting around the arborians ” As an FYI Build 14357 - the de-aggroing from Rockin' n Knockin' is removed at the end of the quest, until such time as you relog/zone ... then they are fine from that point forward. (i.e., they are non-aggro once you coat yourself with pollen, go aggro once you have handed it in UNTIL you relog or zone. Then the zone check works and they are non-aggro from that point forward

10-27-2018, 12:06 AM	#211
Miragian New Member Posts: n/a	The merchant Oleene in the Smith's Gallery needs to be stationary. It is very difficult to scroll through a shop list to find what you need if the merchant up and wanders away and the shop window closes because she wanders out of range. She is needed to purchase Prepared Malachite Shards at the beginning of the tradeskill line.

10-27-2018, 02:53 AM	#212
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Eeee! I'm not sure when it was added, or if I have been blind all this time, but the things you need to catalog for Followup Friendships now show feathers after their name! Thank you!!!!!

10-27-2018, 03:05 AM	#213
Miragian New Member Posts: n/a	Copied Miragian over to test to do a bit with the TS line, he has not done the stuff for PoP adventure line and is not 110 Adventure. When I got over to test his mount is not active nor summonable in the library. So he's stuck at 50% run speed for some reason. Other character didn't have this issue and my wife was playing in here something like an hour ago and didn't have that issue on a beta buffed character.

10-27-2018, 06:45 AM	#215
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I'm guessing that the pack pony appearance is a feature in-progress. I logged in on one of my folks who has finished the TS line, and her pack pony, which had been a normal pony (she didn't have the alternate appearance for the PoP pony, as she's not done the PoP crafting line) and I have a lovely pack snail labeled as a pack pony. I love him! But when I tried to check out if the toggling worked for him, I did the toggle appearance, and it turned into the purple/pink/blue PoP pony ... and stayed there, no matter how many times I selected the toggle appearance option. Gone was the white pack pony, gone was the snail with packages on top of his shell ... just the PoP appearance. I relogged and the snail is back. It is very confused! I have to admit, it is giving me more of a giggle than it probably should to get a "whinny" response from hailing a snail!

10-29-2018, 10:24 AM	#217
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Quest reward: Instructedible Cookie Recipe ... this scribes into "Instructedible Cookie" in your recipe book. However, since the quest combine recipes don't delete from your recipe book when you're done with the quest, you will end up with two "Instructedible Cookie" recipes in your book. If you're sleepily retesting stuff at after 2 a.m., you just might end up making the wrong one. /innocent whistle Meanwhile, what does it do? The effects when you examine it says "Applies Edible Instructable when Activated" with no explanation of what that entails. I used one, but nothing really seemed to happen other than taking a charge off the stack. I see no new effects, etc.

10-29-2018, 11:10 AM	#218
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ok ... dear sweet Bristlebane on a purple piebald pony! {flails arms around wildly} As you might be able to tell by the fact that it is almost 3 a.m., and I am still here posting, I decided to see the new TS rewards that were added today for myself. There's some really fun stuff here, and a couple thingsreward-wise that still need work. On top of the posts that I made already, the ___'s Planar Adventures is a great idea with 3 lovely white adorn slots and all. There are no crafting adorns (aka "Nails") for the charm slot, unless something was changed in the last few days. (We've also been begging for Nails that will fit in primary and cloak, so we can have something useful in our crafting "weapons" from the SF expansion, such as Kruzz's Cooking Skillet, as well as the many, many crafting cloaks that we have) Nails are pretty restrictive in where they will go, so either the charm will have to be turned into something else, or we sort of need the Nails to fit there. Our currently available crafting adorn slots are: head, chest, shoulders, forearms, hands, legs, feet, neck (only 1 Nail fits in the neck slot)

10-29-2018, 11:16 AM	#219
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	It should also be noted that a fresh alt who did the entire TS line tonight (but who did not do the PoP crafting line) cannot change the appearance of her pack pony to the pack snail appearance. I'm not sure if that's been pulled from being a reward while it is being fixed, or if she's just got problems because the ability to change your pony appearance came first from the PoP crafting line, and her pony isn't smart enough to learn how to do it on his own. She is able to talk to the guild harvesters and get the (currently bugged) new harvesting quests, at least, so that part of the flagging is working.

10-29-2018, 11:52 AM	#220
Arieva New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Was I the only one extremely disappointed to see the final reward was "another" item that summons a fuel merchant. Recycling rewards from old TS content....I think reward wise I was more excited about the 88 slot bag personally.

10-29-2018, 05:35 PM	#221
doit New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Im sure many recent alts or even new players appreciate the fact that you get a item that summons a fuel merchant without having to do very old content.. everyone wins.. old players get something new also...new bag..and maybe the new final reward has better stats than old version?

10-29-2018, 06:01 PM	#222
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Side note: There is no monetary reward for the various steps of the TS line.. so crafters are losing plat on every quest due to fuel cost.....

10-29-2018, 06:57 PM	#224
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Fixed the pack pony for tomorrow's update. It should toggle better now and remember choice on zoning.

10-29-2018, 07:06 PM	#225
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The Scrivener's Tale: Difficulties Delivering some of the possible spawn pts for 'a strange bag' are not accessible w/o aggro /waypoint 86.18, 58.96, 274.36 is one such location.

10-29-2018, 08:53 PM	#226
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The new reward for Incumbent Incubation "Mourndax V'Zeaar" does not yet have art. Trying to preview it gives you the message that you need to patch. (35 rent status reduction seems like a really odd number to use, too)

10-30-2018, 06:16 AM	#229
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Both the fluff rewards (hat and consumable illusion) are no-trade and no commission. I sort of understand the hat, though the appearance isn't unique. I wonder about the illusion though. Is there a reason it is both no-trade and no commission?

10-30-2018, 07:01 AM	#230
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Sig line reward house item "Mourndax V'Zeaar" is now visible with build 14359 that went in tonight ... and I sort of wish he wasn't. :O This tiny little version of him previews as bald and clad only in a pair of dark briefs. His placement outline while you are trying to place him comes up to about shin-high and still mostly naked. Once placed, he doubles-ish in height to be about knee-high and properly clothed and coiffed. (Pack snail used as size comparison) If you try to resize him larger, you end up with this .... Yes, that really is a naked taller version of him with a clothed smaller version standing inside him, and it looks just as naughty from the back as it does from the front! I think I am going to have nightmares tonight about a nearly-naked (dark) Elf on a Shelf for Frostfell! On the plus side, the Pack SnailPony is now toggling appearances properly. Thank you!

10-30-2018, 07:21 AM	#231
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Build 14359 Source of Discontent. I could swear that the "a Bubonian Runecarver" had a quest book over his head before tonight's patch, or that you said there'd be a map highlight for him, but there are neither tonight.

10-30-2018, 05:14 PM	#232
Sigrdrifa Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Niami DenMother said: ↑ “If you try to resize him larger, you end up with this .... Yes, that really is a naked taller version of him with a clothed smaller version standing inside him...” Looks more to me like he scaled but his clothes did not. Either way, ewww!

10-30-2018, 05:19 PM	#233
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Niami DenMother said: ↑ “Build 14359 Source of Discontent. I could swear that the "a Bubonian Runecarver" had a quest book over his head before tonight's patch, or that you said there'd be a map highlight for him, but there are neither tonight.” I think I missed that one, will add it right now. Thanks!

10-31-2018, 03:21 AM	#234
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Build 14359 Pack snail issue - Pack pony loses snail appearance on zoning for characters who did not do the PoP crafting line. Instead, it morphs into the ceffyl illusion, which those same players should not have access to. Crafters earned the ceffyl illusion for their pony during the PoP crafting line (along with the autonomous harvesting ability for the pony). Those who did not do that line should only have the original white pony look and the snail look as options, and the snail should persist on zoning. (Folks who have completed the PoP crafting line as well as the CD line should have normal pony, ceffyl pony and snail as their toggle appearances, and their snail appearance properly stays on zoning/relogging.)

10-31-2018, 10:22 PM	#235
Niami DenMother Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Gninja said: ↑ “This should be resolved today, let me know how it goes!” I assume you mean after tonight's patch, so I'll recheck then. If you mean now, it is an issue still with build 14361.

10-31-2018, 11:00 PM	#236
Cyrrena Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Niami DenMother said: ↑ “Sig line reward house item "Mourndax V'Zeaar" is now visible with build 14359 that went in tonight ... and I sort of wish he wasn't. :O This tiny little version of him previews as bald and clad only in a pair of dark briefs. His placement outline while you are trying to place him comes up to about shin-high and still mostly naked. Once placed, he doubles-ish in height to be about knee-high and properly clothed and coiffed. (Pack snail used as size comparison) If you try to resize him larger, you end up with this .... Yes, that really is a naked taller version of him with a clothed smaller version standing inside him, and it looks just as naughty from the back as it does from the front! I think I am going to have nightmares tonight about a nearly-naked (dark) Elf on a Shelf for Frostfell! On the plus side, the Pack SnailPony is now toggling appearances properly. Thank you!” Now see what you have gone and done? Now we need a few "elf on a shelf" varieties for Frostfell. I also saw on SharkTank "mensch on a bench".

10-31-2018, 11:10 PM	#237
Whilhelmina Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	I was aggroed by a wasp while placing the beds for the quest The Scrivener's Tale: Incumbent Incubation around the last spot (133, 37, 248 ). Could it be possible to make sure that there are no wasps around that place? She spawned just above the house for last bed (121, 48, 250 ) and can't be avoided at all.

10-31-2018, 11:55 PM	#238
Whilhelmina Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Whilhelmina said: ↑ “The Scrivener's Tale: The Reach of the Ivy I gathered all the pottery parts, then went on to FAIL the craft on third bar on the step "Craft the pottery". I only got one of the shard of broken pottery back. I still have 2 vials of sticky sap in store as it only uses one, but the quest requires 3 shards of broken pottery, so I'm missing 2 and there's no pottery to smash around anymore. None of the NPC gives me back some shards and the bag next to Temry is not clickable either. So I'm stuck. I deleted the quest and took it back. I had only 1 vial and 2 potteries to collect (it counted what I already had in inventory) I had to destroy the extra recipe-book from inventory. On turn in, Temry Loneivy in Vegarlson still only has a feather and not a book above his head.” Now it uses 3 and 3 components, and we still get 1 shard of pottery back, but there's still no way to get more pottery if we fail the recipe. I had to delete the quest and take it back.

11-01-2018, 08:15 AM	#239
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Niami DenMother said: ↑ “Build 14359 Pack snail issue - Pack pony loses snail appearance on zoning for characters who did not do the PoP crafting line. Instead, it morphs into the ceffyl illusion, which those same players should not have access to. Crafters earned the ceffyl illusion for their pony during the PoP crafting line (along with the autonomous harvesting ability for the pony). Those who did not do that line should only have the original white pony look and the snail look as options, and the snail should persist on zoning. (Folks who have completed the PoP crafting line as well as the CD line should have normal pony, ceffyl pony and snail as their toggle appearances, and their snail appearance properly stays on zoning/relogging.)” This should be resolved today, let me know how it goes!

11-01-2018, 09:00 PM	#240
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Whilhelmina said: ↑ “Now it uses 3 and 3 components, and we still get 1 shard of pottery back, but there's still no way to get more pottery if we fail the recipe. I had to delete the quest and take it back.” I just verified on beta that if you delete the items and are on the "Craft" step you are still able to destroy pottery and get more shards. Where are you having the hang up? Nevermind! I figured it out. Was a problem seeing them not destroying them.