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Old 01-11-2007, 10:28 AM   #1
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If its an exploit don't give details or we'll get banned, if its a legit trick I would like to know though. But anyways people are sayings you can kill trash monsters in Deathtoll with 2 people and say its possible to even do it with 1 person and they are looting many relic pieces of armor every day. Whats the deal with this?
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:32 AM   #2
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they are yanking your chain....
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:35 AM   #3
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Na, some guy with 2 chars in the dungeon is selling loot rights to relic armor and I bought some the other day. Its confirmed in chat with people waving around "I know how to do it but won't tell you" I'm like thats nice i'll find out either way now SMILEY
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:45 AM   #4
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sounds like a conspirisy(sp) to get the zone have a lockout timer on it apon zone-in even though there is an access quest that requires you to try and get in but cant so you have to go back to nag then go back to get in would suck for a noobie guild who just got access unable to get in that day because of a lockout.

There is no way people are farming this zone, eyes hit for alot im talking from experience 10252 heat resist and im still taking 3 - 4k a hit. If you dont cure your dead and they charm you so even if they used a mircial thats once every hour or longer... Logicly speeking the only way they could expliot this would be to have a way to do 500k dps or reflect every move back on to the npc or chain charm which i dont think you can do to epics.

Not to menchion the x2 and x3 traps hit hella hard now, and the only mobs that repop are the eye's and 2 droags... to the "easy" mobs you would need to clear 3 eyes, 1 glider, 2 sets of x4 droags, and about 4 traps. If you are one or even two persons you would have to disable the flameburner and then travel up the tunnel locking you out.

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Old 01-11-2007, 12:28 PM   #5
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I've seen the heroic books from the Fitz encounter drop Master chests before. And they respawn over and over again. So i'd give it a "Plausible".
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:57 PM   #6
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Thug wrote:
I've seen the heroic books from the Fitz encounter drop Master chests before. And they respawn over and over again. So i'd give it a "Plausible".

id say this would be the only plausible way to do it, but still seems somewhat farfetched... if it was dropping like this, i would definitely have to call it an exploit, because i dont think that it was ever intended to have relic drop off of anything weaker than an epic
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:34 PM   #7
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There is an exploit to surpass the lockout timer by leaving someone outside, and going linkdead on purpose inside to get to the heroic mobs.  But yeah it is illegal and people have gotten banned before for it, but still alot of people do it.  I know who your talking about on the Bazaar server who tries to sell loot rights to it all day, its really sad.  It is possible to do with just two or three people though.  Hopefully the guy on Bazaar server gets whats coming to him.
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Old 01-11-2007, 08:02 PM   #8
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My guess is they are leaving a person outside the zone, while 2 people zone in, then carfully pull the heroic easy as hell droags at the entrance, Zone out go back in kill them again yadda yadda yadda and get relic off them.  Just a guess though.

 

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Old 01-11-2007, 08:18 PM   #9
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i have never seen a master drop off the entrance mobs. i mean it possible if u wanna keep zoning in and out of the zone any mob can drop a master chest. we clear this zone on regular basis since kos and have seen less and less masters drop in there.  i dont see it as a possiblity at all. if they doing that then petition it to a gm. i like to see how its possible with the eyes and traps in the way. like i said i report that player because its an exploit and great now they put a lockout timer the minute u zone in. way to go said player. thanks from all of us who play the game legit.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:24 AM   #10
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you don't have to zone out to get a reset. i bet this is what's happening.

 

a raid goes through DT at least up to Fitz and kills fitz. those heroics keep spawning over and over after fitz is dead. once raid force leaves, 2 people stay inside at Fitz killing books to get master chest. they are instant respawn. they have 1 person with DT access out in bonemire far from the DT entrance (so doesn't get zoned in with person coming into loot item)

relic drops, leader invites a person out in bonemire into raid, person zones in even if they don't have access since 1 person in bonemire has it (i know this works for sure, since we often leave someone at dreadnever site to get people coming in late to raid without access into raid)

raid leader has leader-only loot option on and kicks item to person once inside (therefore they never even see where this sploit is taking place inside)

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Old 01-12-2007, 07:39 AM   #11
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What hes talking about though is 2 or 3 people exploit farming it.  See, you can get by all the entrance mobs if you go the linkdead exploit, and just farm the heroics, with no lockout timer. 

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Old 01-12-2007, 04:17 PM   #12
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The Devs removed loots from the mobs at the start a long time ago I thought?The heroic books sounds plausible.Have a monk or FD haver haul tail, FD, do over and over again and use walls until you're at the books.Fitz is non-agro if I recall so you can pull the books all day long.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:25 PM   #13
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You can farm Deathtoll. Just dont kill any named. Ive seen monks go in there and solo the droags and they have a chance to drop relic and master chests.  Lockout is only 8 hrs so you can basically go in there and clear all the trash mobs without killing the named and rinse and repeat 8hrs later.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:27 PM   #14
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A monk or bruiser can feign death by the entrance mobs. So you dont have to ghost run through. So there goes your theory there. And  Monk can feign death the group past the eentrance.

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Old 01-13-2007, 02:51 AM   #15
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They are bypassing the lockout timer, and a monk isnt the one farming it.  As for the person farming it if you add him/her to friends you see him/her logging in and out constantly, so you know they are going ld to get by the mobs.

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Old 01-15-2007, 12:42 PM   #16
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nvm

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Old 01-16-2007, 12:09 AM   #17
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"Ghosting" to Fitzpizzle and killing the books/fish would make this very easy with 2 people. But definitely not working as intended.
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Old 01-16-2007, 03:50 AM   #18
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People do it by kiilling the fake epics by the first named in the zone, then resetting the zone and repeating.How they get there is an exploit I believe, and same with how they reset the zone (I am not 100% sure they are exploits, but I am not going to post the actual methods just incase)As for the devs preventing this, there are things in place by they usually get by-passed or the mechanics are in game to prevent loss of progress in situations where it may actually be needed.
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