Wizard Class Changes

10-31-2016, 11:58 PM

Even with the changes the left side prestige still seems quite under-powered compared to the right.
Hellfire feels hopelessly inadequate even with the 2,5 mil mod buff,
which either doesn't work or just doesn't scale as good as I hoped.
I didn't notice a significant change on either Ice Comet or Fusion.
I'd suggest something along the lines of simply increasing the next spell by X%, so that the mod amount doesn't have to be changed every time there is new itemization.
The only positive thing I have to say about Incineration is that it seemed easier to keep the stacks up than before.
Although the damage itself is still pretty lack luster.
Finally the conversion (CB->POT) being the other way around doesn't help either. Considering the CB/POT ratio isn't 1:2 the conversion should be further adjusted.

In light of how much AoE power one has to give up, in addition to a lot of flexibility, I feel that the left side prestige should be considerably stronger than the right side to even be considered viable.

11-01-2016, 01:38 AM

For it to be balanced, left side should have the advantage against a single target, with right side being strong in AE situations. That's never been the situation, because Frozen Rain was always better than left side even at single target.

Solution: keep the buff to Frozen Detonation, but reduce Frozen Rain back to reasonably low levels so right-side spec doesn't beat left-side at single target.

11-01-2016, 03:37 AM

No thank you I don't want to have to swap AA spec's a dozen times in raid base on if the fight is ST or AE. I like the change to Frozen Rain it bring is on par with Elemental Blast now.

11-01-2016, 06:08 AM

That mean you can shut up about my stuff now Smile

11-01-2016, 10:30 PM

Great. So there's still zero reason to ever go left-side spec. Why even have it in game?

wazul · 11-01-2016, 10:48 PM

why you focus on the wizard left side ? i think many another aa was obsolete since many year, but the dev team cannot rewamp all AA, it will be an epic work. i like the bump about frozen, and i hope some work about FB...

11-01-2016, 10:51 PM

left side is boring anyway, having to use right side is great

11-02-2016, 02:02 AM

Look, I raided on a wizard for a long time. I'm not advocating for a situation where wizards would feel compelled to jump AA specs 15 times a night because left side is, let's say, 50% more ST damage. That's annoying and no one likes that.

I'm just saying "there's no reason to even have a prestige tree if it's worse in literally every situation than the alternative".

11-01-2016, 03:37 AM	#3
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	Entropy said: ↑ “Solution: keep the buff to Frozen Detonation, but reduce Frozen Rain back to reasonably low levels so right-side spec doesn't beat left-side at single target.” No thank you I don't want to have to swap AA spec's a dozen times in raid base on if the fight is ST or AE. I like the change to Frozen Rain it bring is on par with Elemental Blast now.

11-01-2016, 10:30 PM	#5
Entropy Active Member Posts: n/a	Rondo9 said: ↑ “No thank you I don't want to have to swap AA spec's a dozen times in raid base on if the fight is ST or AE. I like the change to Frozen Rain it bring is on par with Elemental Blast now.” Great. So there's still zero reason to ever go left-side spec. Why even have it in game?

11-01-2016, 10:48 PM	#6
wazul New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	“Great. So there's still zero reason to ever go left-side spec. Why even have it in game?” why you focus on the wizard left side ? i think many another aa was obsolete since many year, but the dev team cannot rewamp all AA, it will be an epic work. i like the bump about frozen, and i hope some work about FB...

10-31-2016, 11:58 PM	#1
Eufelia New Member Posts: n/a	Even with the changes the left side prestige still seems quite under-powered compared to the right. Hellfire feels hopelessly inadequate even with the 2,5 mil mod buff, which either doesn't work or just doesn't scale as good as I hoped. I didn't notice a significant change on either Ice Comet or Fusion. I'd suggest something along the lines of simply increasing the next spell by X%, so that the mod amount doesn't have to be changed every time there is new itemization. The only positive thing I have to say about Incineration is that it seemed easier to keep the stacks up than before. Although the damage itself is still pretty lack luster. Finally the conversion (CB->POT) being the other way around doesn't help either. Considering the CB/POT ratio isn't 1:2 the conversion should be further adjusted. In light of how much AoE power one has to give up, in addition to a lot of flexibility, I feel that the left side prestige should be considerably stronger than the right side to even be considered viable.

11-01-2016, 01:38 AM	#2
Entropy Active Member Posts: n/a	For it to be balanced, left side should have the advantage against a single target, with right side being strong in AE situations. That's never been the situation, because Frozen Rain was always better than left side even at single target. Solution: keep the buff to Frozen Detonation, but reduce Frozen Rain back to reasonably low levels so right-side spec doesn't beat left-side at single target.

11-01-2016, 06:08 AM	#4
Ashandra Active Member Posts: n/a	That mean you can shut up about my stuff now

11-01-2016, 10:51 PM	#7
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	left side is boring anyway, having to use right side is great

11-02-2016, 02:02 AM	#8
Entropy Active Member Posts: n/a	Look, I raided on a wizard for a long time. I'm not advocating for a situation where wizards would feel compelled to jump AA specs 15 times a night because left side is, let's say, 50% more ST damage. That's annoying and no one likes that. I'm just saying "there's no reason to even have a prestige tree if it's worse in literally every situation than the alternative".