[Paladin] Enhanced Righteousness Added Mitigation Effect

10-31-2016, 12:34 AM

Paladin

Enhance: Righteousness will now grant an effect that reduces combat mitigation.

Picked this up and the Mitigation effect is 3 (three)? Am I reading that correctly? My Paladin has close to 15000 mitigation, 3 is... well.. nothing? I can't be reading that correctly.

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Mermut · 10-31-2016, 12:42 AM

I'm actually curious why it's suddenly being called 'combat mitigation' rather then 'mitigation' or 'physical mitigation'.... How is 'combat mitigation' different from 'regular' mitigation. And if it's not different.. why the different verbage?

Lucus · 10-31-2016, 01:10 AM

combat mitigation is on the enemy NPC, i'm thinking the naming difference is to avoid confusing it with player mitigation.

Mermut · 10-31-2016, 01:24 AM

I guess I'm used to the older arts which just said mitigation or physical mitigation, or arcane mitigation, etc of target... which was the mobs..
I'd be way more confused if an offensive art decreased the player's mitigation then if the arts just said 'decreased target's mitigation'...

Malleria · 10-31-2016, 02:28 AM

Combat mitigation is a new stat they introduced with Nizara and are using going forward. It's not the same thing as physical mitigation.

That said... about a week ago I took a beta buffed ranger into some heroics to check the requirements and trash mobs had about 1200 combat mitigation. So debuffing 3 from that does seem a bit... underwhelming.

*That said, combat mitigation values will probably change before it goes live, so we'll have to see what they end up at.

10-31-2016, 11:09 AM

Just re-reading my above post - I didn't mean to come off as snippy; it was meant more as a cheeky post but came off as snippy. I apologize for that. Bad Cragfire.

Good information on Combat Mitigation.

Uncle · 11-02-2016, 04:26 PM

that number in heroic currently tripled to roughly 3500ish and to the OP it % based off the mobs combat mit

11-02-2016, 04:32 PM

Raid encounters have ~4000

Uncle · 11-02-2016, 04:38 PM

8967 as of last night im certian itll get adjusted though

Errrorr · 11-02-2016, 05:50 PM

Try 12k as you go higher Smile

Uncle · 11-03-2016, 08:50 AM

so those % are gonna add up i was kinda afriad of that :/

11-03-2016, 12:40 PM

yea i was going off of values for that first raid zone, and i dont remember the combat mit that the mob had that we tested.

Uncle · 11-03-2016, 02:31 PM

yeah so was imy number off the 3 or forth named iirc

11-03-2016, 05:19 PM

Hence, your shiny 200million abilities suddendly hit for 700k - NOT cool!

To be fair, since there is resolve - why introduce another stat?
Just give the mobs slighty more resolve than you can gain in total and there is all which seems to be necessary to get balanced.

11-04-2016, 10:58 AM

They are doing this because stat inflation was causing lag. Bigger numbers mean more data being sent to log files, server files, etc. The smaller the number, the less data, less lag. Makes sense.

11-04-2016, 11:02 AM

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Malleria · 11-05-2016, 08:24 AM

Except requiring every action to perform an additional calculation (the effect of combat mitigation) will cause far more strain on the server than saving a couple of numbers on the end ever could (assuming of course that it would do anything at all, which is unlikely).

11-05-2016, 07:33 PM

Exactly - initial damage gets applied, then another calculation made to reduce final value - bad idea in the first place.

10-31-2016, 12:34 AM	#1
Cragfire New Member Posts: n/a	Paladin Enhance: Righteousness will now grant an effect that reduces combat mitigation. Picked this up and the Mitigation effect is 3 (three)? Am I reading that correctly? My Paladin has close to 15000 mitigation, 3 is... well.. nothing? I can't be reading that correctly.

10-31-2016, 01:10 AM	#3
Lucus Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 3	Mermut said: ↑ “I'm actually curious why it's suddenly being called 'combat mitigation' rather then 'mitigation' or 'physical mitigation'.... How is 'combat mitigation' different from 'regular' mitigation. And if it's not different.. why the different verbage?” combat mitigation is on the enemy NPC, i'm thinking the naming difference is to avoid confusing it with player mitigation.

10-31-2016, 01:24 AM	#4
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Lucus said: ↑ “combat mitigation is on the enemy NPC, i'm thinking the naming difference is to avoid confusing it with player mitigation.” I guess I'm used to the older arts which just said mitigation or physical mitigation, or arcane mitigation, etc of target... which was the mobs.. I'd be way more confused if an offensive art decreased the player's mitigation then if the arts just said 'decreased target's mitigation'...

11-02-2016, 04:26 PM	#7
Uncle Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Malleria said: ↑ “Combat mitigation is a new stat they introduced with Nizara and are using going forward. It's not the same thing as physical mitigation. That said... about a week ago I took a beta buffed ranger into some heroics to check the requirements and trash mobs had about 1200 combat mitigation. So debuffing 3 from that does seem a bit... underwhelming. *That said, combat mitigation values will probably change before it goes live, so we'll have to see what they end up at.” that number in heroic currently tripled to roughly 3500ish and to the OP it % based off the mobs combat mit

11-02-2016, 04:38 PM	#9
Uncle Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Pitta said: ↑ “Raid encounters have ~4000” 8967 as of last night im certian itll get adjusted though

10-31-2016, 12:42 AM	#2
Mermut Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I'm actually curious why it's suddenly being called 'combat mitigation' rather then 'mitigation' or 'physical mitigation'.... How is 'combat mitigation' different from 'regular' mitigation. And if it's not different.. why the different verbage?

10-31-2016, 02:28 AM	#5
Malleria Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Combat mitigation is a new stat they introduced with Nizara and are using going forward. It's not the same thing as physical mitigation. That said... about a week ago I took a beta buffed ranger into some heroics to check the requirements and trash mobs had about 1200 combat mitigation. So debuffing 3 from that does seem a bit... underwhelming. *That said, combat mitigation values will probably change before it goes live, so we'll have to see what they end up at.

10-31-2016, 11:09 AM	#6
Cragfire New Member Posts: n/a	Just re-reading my above post - I didn't mean to come off as snippy; it was meant more as a cheeky post but came off as snippy. I apologize for that. Bad Cragfire. Good information on Combat Mitigation.

11-02-2016, 04:32 PM	#8
Pitta Member Posts: n/a	Raid encounters have ~4000

11-02-2016, 05:50 PM	#10
Errrorr Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Pitta said: ↑ “Raid encounters have ~4000” Try 12k as you go higher

11-03-2016, 08:50 AM	#11
Uncle Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Errrorr said: ↑ “Try 12k as you go higher ” so those % are gonna add up i was kinda afriad of that :/

11-03-2016, 12:40 PM	#12
Pitta Member Posts: n/a	yea i was going off of values for that first raid zone, and i dont remember the combat mit that the mob had that we tested.

11-03-2016, 02:31 PM	#13
Uncle Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Pitta said: ↑ “yea i was going off of values for that first raid zone, and i dont remember the combat mit that the mob had that we tested.” yeah so was imy number off the 3 or forth named iirc

11-03-2016, 05:19 PM	#14
Raenius Active Member Posts: n/a	Hence, your shiny 200million abilities suddendly hit for 700k - NOT cool! To be fair, since there is resolve - why introduce another stat? Just give the mobs slighty more resolve than you can gain in total and there is all which seems to be necessary to get balanced.

11-04-2016, 10:58 AM	#15
Pitta Member Posts: n/a	Raenius said: ↑ “Hence, your shiny 200million abilities suddendly hit for 700k - NOT cool! To be fair, since there is resolve - why introduce another stat? Just give the mobs slighty more resolve than you can gain in total and there is all which seems to be necessary to get balanced.” They are doing this because stat inflation was causing lag. Bigger numbers mean more data being sent to log files, server files, etc. The smaller the number, the less data, less lag. Makes sense.

11-05-2016, 08:24 AM	#17
Malleria Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Pitta said: ↑ “They are doing this because stat inflation was causing lag. Bigger numbers mean more data being sent to log files, server files, etc. The smaller the number, the less data, less lag. Makes sense.” Except requiring every action to perform an additional calculation (the effect of combat mitigation) will cause far more strain on the server than saving a couple of numbers on the end ever could (assuming of course that it would do anything at all, which is unlikely).

11-05-2016, 07:33 PM	#18
Raenius Active Member Posts: n/a	Malleria said: ↑ “Except requiring every action to perform an additional calculation (the effect of combat mitigation) will cause far more strain on the server than saving a couple of numbers on the end ever could (assuming of course that it would do anything at all, which is unlikely).” Exactly - initial damage gets applied, then another calculation made to reduce final value - bad idea in the first place.