fiery blast broken

11-01-2016, 02:22 AM

need to do more testing but explain to me how this is even possible.. 2 frozen dets and frozen heavens during fb hits for 400 mill lol, so confused as to whats going on here (was on 10 training dummies btw)
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https://gyazo.com/95d399bd06e7f00598f7b9827d252967

11-01-2016, 02:31 AM

Fiery blast had been broken for a long time, For starters it only uses 45.5% of out going damage, it does not include double casts only the first hit counts and 45.5% of it. There are already a few ascension abilities that do not work with fiery blast I assume this is another. I'm afraid that this spell is starting to become obsolete like mana burn unless something is changed soon.

11-01-2016, 02:36 AM

i know exactly how it works and that ascension ability works fine, ill get into more detail when i get back from school, i was able to recreate this without using any ascension abilities as well. ill post more parses later with a video as well. ill add up all the dmg not including SDA and multiple by .454 and the amount will still be higher than what it hits for, so weird

11-01-2016, 03:24 AM

I wasn't trying to imply that you didn't know more just stating the fact, sorry. Just did a test on beta and seems to be the same, I found using the ascension spells during FB chain lowered my parse because of the extremely long cast times..

11-01-2016, 04:19 AM

Actually I'm getting a similar result now.

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11-01-2016, 04:33 AM

Yes its like resetting the dmg at a certain point or something and looping? Idk yet just speculation but something in the code is definitely messed up

11-01-2016, 05:24 AM

hey oxy can you test to see if its doing the same thing on live? I dont have the stats to reach the threshold because im pretty sure there is something to do with reaching a certain threshold and it breaks it

11-01-2016, 09:00 AM

figured it wouldnt be working properly on live as well, there must be some kind of cap that was put in a long time ago or something thats my guess could be completely wrong though

11-01-2016, 09:17 AM

Yea i have noticed the same thing on my wizard. on live i was getting 1b+ fiery blasts in a single training dummy (its an alt, so only has about 7.5k potency), and when i came over to beta to test the changes, i was getting 400m~, even though my outgoing damage from frozen rain almost doubled.

please fix fiery blast to where it was before these changes. 45.5% is fine, but it needs to work properly.

11-01-2016, 09:19 AM

I doubt its a cap problem. If so, we would have been hitting it a while ago because we have seen higher fiery blasts in the past. I know that a wizard in my guild has had a 7.2b fiery blast.

11-01-2016, 09:36 AM

interesting if they had hit for 7.2 billion there is some type of weird issue not sure what it is, on beta fb still is doing .45* so its not an issue there but yeah its very weird whats going on, not very intuitive

11-01-2016, 09:38 AM

7.2 was with hammer proc i'd assume. but i just did some parses on my wizard. he has 9k potency and 170k amod, with 2.5k cb. heres an aoe fight.

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11-01-2016, 09:47 AM

I pretty sure there hasn't been a change to fiery blast its doing the same thing on live as well but that it something that need to be increased.

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I feeling it could be something to with 32 bit integers.

Also that needs to be fixed is Ethereal Expertise does not work with Frozen Rain/Detonation, Blast of Devastation seems to only hit one target inconsistently, World Ablaze, Fusion doesn't hit 3 targets.

11-01-2016, 09:51 AM

yeah i was thinking something like that possibly too but still unsure

11-01-2016, 11:27 AM

Side note these new procs doing too much dmg, yes it's 8 dummies but still
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11-01-2016, 08:38 PM

Yes it is in 41,054,105,577 total dmg, (1477985703)[Tue Nov 1 17:35:03 2016] YOUR Fiery Blast hits training dummy for 465607434 heat damage.

11-04-2016, 11:08 AM

also would really appreciate the response of a dev on this showing that they are aware of the issue on fiery blast

11-05-2016, 01:48 AM

Where did you pick up the new dev strike item? I wanna put that badboy on the farm list lol 336mil proc ftw

11-05-2016, 05:31 AM

crafted gear has it on the bloody tooth weapons

11-05-2016, 08:12 PM

They're changing it arnt they?

11-12-2016, 12:43 PM

Since this seems to be a thread of mostly wizzies what ascension class are you all looking into? I tried the Elementalist, but was wanting to look into Etherealist. Thanks in advance for your input.

11-14-2016, 03:19 AM

ethrealist i think

11-14-2016, 04:02 AM

Back on the topic...
FB is lackluster and Wizards have been meh for a while...
Plz fix.

11-14-2016, 12:40 PM

i mean im not even really worried about changing fiery blast at all as long as it's accurately doing the damage that it's supposed to

11-14-2016, 01:10 PM

Lolololol. You're kidding right? Wizards and necros are #1 on the parse right now.

11-01-2016, 09:19 AM	#10
Pitta Member Posts: n/a	Zelox said: ↑ “figured it wouldnt be working properly on live as well, there must be some kind of cap that was put in a long time ago or something thats my guess could be completely wrong though” I doubt its a cap problem. If so, we would have been hitting it a while ago because we have seen higher fiery blasts in the past. I know that a wizard in my guild has had a 7.2b fiery blast.

11-01-2016, 09:47 AM	#13
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	Pitta said: ↑ “please fix fiery blast to where it was before these changes. 45.5% is fine, but it needs to work properly.” I pretty sure there hasn't been a change to fiery blast its doing the same thing on live as well but that it something that need to be increased. I feeling it could be something to with 32 bit integers. Also that needs to be fixed is Ethereal Expertise does not work with Frozen Rain/Detonation, Blast of Devastation seems to only hit one target inconsistently, World Ablaze, Fusion doesn't hit 3 targets.

11-01-2016, 08:38 PM	#16
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	Zelox said: ↑ “hey oxy can you test to see if its doing the same thing on live? I dont have the stats to reach the threshold because im pretty sure there is something to do with reaching a certain threshold and it breaks it” Yes it is in 41,054,105,577 total dmg, (1477985703)[Tue Nov 1 17:35:03 2016] YOUR Fiery Blast hits training dummy for 465607434 heat damage.

11-14-2016, 01:10 PM	#25
ZUES Well-Known Member Posts: n/a	Xellium said: ↑ “Back on the topic... FB is lackluster and Wizards have been meh for a while... Plz fix.” Lolololol. You're kidding right? Wizards and necros are #1 on the parse right now.

11-01-2016, 02:22 AM	#1
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	need to do more testing but explain to me how this is even possible.. 2 frozen dets and frozen heavens during fb hits for 400 mill lol, so confused as to whats going on here (was on 10 training dummies btw) https://gyazo.com/95d399bd06e7f00598f7b9827d252967

11-01-2016, 02:31 AM	#2
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	Fiery blast had been broken for a long time, For starters it only uses 45.5% of out going damage, it does not include double casts only the first hit counts and 45.5% of it. There are already a few ascension abilities that do not work with fiery blast I assume this is another. I'm afraid that this spell is starting to become obsolete like mana burn unless something is changed soon.

11-01-2016, 02:36 AM	#3
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	i know exactly how it works and that ascension ability works fine, ill get into more detail when i get back from school, i was able to recreate this without using any ascension abilities as well. ill post more parses later with a video as well. ill add up all the dmg not including SDA and multiple by .454 and the amount will still be higher than what it hits for, so weird

11-01-2016, 03:24 AM	#4
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	I wasn't trying to imply that you didn't know more just stating the fact, sorry. Just did a test on beta and seems to be the same, I found using the ascension spells during FB chain lowered my parse because of the extremely long cast times..

11-01-2016, 04:19 AM	#5
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	Actually I'm getting a similar result now.

11-01-2016, 04:33 AM	#6
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	Yes its like resetting the dmg at a certain point or something and looping? Idk yet just speculation but something in the code is definitely messed up

11-01-2016, 05:24 AM	#7
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	hey oxy can you test to see if its doing the same thing on live? I dont have the stats to reach the threshold because im pretty sure there is something to do with reaching a certain threshold and it breaks it

11-01-2016, 09:00 AM	#8
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	figured it wouldnt be working properly on live as well, there must be some kind of cap that was put in a long time ago or something thats my guess could be completely wrong though

11-01-2016, 09:17 AM	#9
Pitta Member Posts: n/a	Yea i have noticed the same thing on my wizard. on live i was getting 1b+ fiery blasts in a single training dummy (its an alt, so only has about 7.5k potency), and when i came over to beta to test the changes, i was getting 400m~, even though my outgoing damage from frozen rain almost doubled. please fix fiery blast to where it was before these changes. 45.5% is fine, but it needs to work properly.

11-01-2016, 09:36 AM	#11
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	interesting if they had hit for 7.2 billion there is some type of weird issue not sure what it is, on beta fb still is doing .45* so its not an issue there but yeah its very weird whats going on, not very intuitive

11-01-2016, 09:38 AM	#12
Pitta Member Posts: n/a	7.2 was with hammer proc i'd assume. but i just did some parses on my wizard. he has 9k potency and 170k amod, with 2.5k cb. heres an aoe fight.

11-01-2016, 09:51 AM	#14
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	yeah i was thinking something like that possibly too but still unsure

11-01-2016, 11:27 AM	#15
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	Side note these new procs doing too much dmg, yes it's 8 dummies but still

11-04-2016, 11:08 AM	#17
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	also would really appreciate the response of a dev on this showing that they are aware of the issue on fiery blast

11-05-2016, 01:48 AM	#18
Talduke Member Posts: n/a	Where did you pick up the new dev strike item? I wanna put that badboy on the farm list lol 336mil proc ftw

11-05-2016, 05:31 AM	#19
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	crafted gear has it on the bloody tooth weapons

11-05-2016, 08:12 PM	#20
Rondo9 Active Member Posts: n/a	They're changing it arnt they?

11-12-2016, 12:43 PM	#21
Ekeu New Member Posts: n/a	Since this seems to be a thread of mostly wizzies what ascension class are you all looking into? I tried the Elementalist, but was wanting to look into Etherealist. Thanks in advance for your input.

11-14-2016, 03:19 AM	#22
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	ethrealist i think

11-14-2016, 04:02 AM	#23
Xellium Member Posts: n/a	Back on the topic... FB is lackluster and Wizards have been meh for a while... Plz fix.

11-14-2016, 12:40 PM	#24
Zelox Member Posts: n/a	i mean im not even really worried about changing fiery blast at all as long as it's accurately doing the damage that it's supposed to