More Power or more Regeneration?

Joer · 04-05-2006, 12:55 AM

Hi,at Level 22 and Level ?? you can choose to get 2.5% more Power or +5 Points Power-Regeneration (In-Combat).What is the best for a Fury?Both times to choose the Regeneration or both times more Power or 1/1 ???Thanks for Helping!

SpritRaja · 04-05-2006, 02:55 AM

With LU13 normal regen is based on levels rather than max power. So would go for regen every time as that adds to your current regen rate.

Ashtu · 04-05-2006, 07:35 AM

Regen. No question.

Bi · 04-05-2006, 08:05 AM

yup, regen every time

Swiftshad · 04-05-2006, 05:42 PM

A regen of 5 per tic (a tic being 6 seconds), means an extra 50 power per minute in combat. (Out of combat regen is really irrelevant as with drinks, spirit of monkey etc I dont have any problems regening power quickly out of combat.)

2.5% of my power pool is 150 = 3 minutes of regen.

Therefore if a fight is less than three minutes long I would have had less available power if I choose regen over a percentage increase.

Most fights are less than three minutes, only some named mobs in raids take longer than that but not many.

There are some instances where chain pulling and continual combat means you can only rely on in-combat regen, but overall we usually have to have a power break for DPS or a main tank before I have issues with low power. :smileyvery-happy:

Crono1321 · 04-06-2006, 08:33 PM

I always chose the % pool increase, and then the regen afterwords...you're level 22-- you'll get to choose both eventually.

Druid03 · 04-06-2006, 09:07 PM

i went for max power every time

prismatic(any version) + spirit of the bat + bard/chanter + power stones = nuff regen = happy fury

RanaFatua · 04-06-2006, 09:49 PM

I went with Regeneration every time. I usually have more power then any priest class some times a warden can get more power then me but usally I do pretty good with having my power over 6,000 by my self so and Regenerations is something you always need when your in raid. Some times you dont get a bard or a enchanter in your group so you need your own regen specially after the nurfed spirit of the bat. I still use it but its not as great as it once was.

Raidi Sovin'faile · 04-07-2006, 09:42 AM

The way I look at it is that 150 power won't help me much on a fight that is quicker than 3 minutes, however the situations that benefit from regen benefit me GREATLY. Therefore regen it is.

I don't pick that trait because it's going to help me a lot in normal activities... I pick it because it will help me greatly on those 10 minute or longer fights!

Also, at higher levels, chain pulling becomes much more frequent. With all the personal regen people are getting, and having a bard or enchanter in the group feeding more power (especially enchanters with their targeted +10% power every minute AA), it becomes much easier to chain pull.

I'd rather not be the reason for our group having to pause for a power break, and +10 regen from traits is one step away from that.

enrique_to · 04-07-2006, 11:17 AM

I'll always choose regen power. I have prismatic, I have spirit of the bat at adept III, I have golden efreet bots and many regen mana items. And of course I have manastone...

I hardly go out of mana. I'm happy with my mana regen rate and I hardly have need to employ drink SMILEY

Bi · 04-07-2006, 12:28 PM

If you rarely go out of power then you arent healing or nuking enough SMILEY

I need drink to not go out of power, and only cast my debuffs and heals if we are chainpulling through a dungeon.i have prismatic, as well as 6FT items I believe (Amulet of Ro(have the moa, but not 70 yet :sob:, Druzics ring, FT3gloves, GEBs etc) manastone, Vessel, Regen Elixir.The only times I dont go oop is when i'm grouping with a bard or chanter (or another priest, but then I nuke harder, and go oop more)

Message Edited by bieb on 04-07-200604:09 AM

Bladeskar · 04-13-2006, 07:08 PM

I went with the percentage increase and I have never had a problem with getting low on power, It may also be because I have some flowing thought items as well, but with over 6300 power, I have the most power out of any self-buffed healer I've seen on my server yet.

SpritRaja · 04-14-2006, 03:41 AM

I agree with Bieb if you are not getting close to oop in battle you are not using your fury to the best of its abilities. Or your group is having to many rest breaks. Personally I am always at around half power in fights and try to keep it like that. I tend to slow down a bit when I reach half power and keep the rest for emergencies.

Edit: to be more precise I am normally under half power but my goal is to be at half power lol.

Message Edited by SpritRaja on 04-13-2006 04:43 PM

Lulian · 04-14-2006, 06:04 PM

Nether one will [Removed for Content] you and in most normal everyday situations it doesn't matter. In raiding it does begin to make a differnce, with t7 and mobs with a billion hps it seems. Hell, you can drop a t6 zone boss it seems quicker than some trash mobs in t7.

I went with power regen both times and I am happy.

Elisse · 04-15-2006, 12:02 AM

I am another one who chose power regen over power pool both times, and have been very happy with it. Once you're out of power, which happens to me soloing, with unexpected adds etc or in groups (but much more rarely) the regen will get you where you need to be a little more quickly. I also hate downtime, and regen helps impatient people like me with that.Also, it's easier to increase your power pool with gear than it is to increase your power regen with gear.

DevilsEnvy · 04-15-2006, 11:27 AM

The answer to this question is really very simple, if you consider it over the long term. You will always pick more power. Let me explain why. The FT5 vs. the +2.5% power pool has been debated over and over. When you think about the long term... you will always pick the 2.5% power pool. Right now, my power is around 6700 self buffed at lvl 70, which with rough math is about 335 extra power from the 5%. If I had FT10, which gives 100 more power a minute, then it would take a fight of over 3.35 minutes to earn back that extra power. Rarely, with the exception of some really tough raid mobs, do fights last over 3 minutes each, so right now you have a bit of an edge by going the power route. Furthermore, EQ2 is supposed to be based on 200 levels, which is where you will really see the difference in % vs. FT. Lets just say that at level 140, all stats were doubled. That would mean that the extra 5% power would now be worth roughly 665 power, but the FT would still only be 10. So, if you pick the FT option, you will see diminishing returns as your character progresses.

Usari · 04-17-2006, 02:58 PM

Vyemm, Hurricanus, Tarinax, Talandor, Gorenaire and The Princes are all longer than 3 minute fights - Regen. If you die and get rezzed mid-fight your 5% extra power is gone - Regen. If you've hit the in-combat regen cap - Pool.

enrique_to · 04-17-2006, 06:40 PM

My Raiding experience makes me happy to have chossen mana regen.

I'm unhappy If I go lower than 60% of my mana pool. Of couse you can go lower in many situations. But I try to keep mana as a treasure. The more mana you have the more heals you can do. My tank use to pull really fast betwen mobs so I have little time to regen mana. And of course in a RAID once you are engaged you won't have nothing of out of combat regen till RAID mob is death. That's cause I try to keep mana as long as posible and that's why I think mana regen is a great hability.

I figth many RAIDs of more that 3 mins SMILEY

If I'm the secondady healer I asume a nuker role. And I do it pretty good. I have a nice INT SMILEY

and Furys are good as nuker SMILEY

But alwais keep mana for success

Message Edited by enrique_tome on 04-17-2006 07:42 AM

Ashtu · 04-17-2006, 07:15 PM

Usari wrote:
Vyemm, Hurricanus, Tarinax, Talandor, Gorenaire and The Princes are all longer than 3 minute fights - Regen.

And many others if you take them on with less than optimal sized forces. Like trio'ing magolemus in your 50's, X'Haviz, etc. Lots of huge hp mobs. Bigger pool only helps at the begining of a fight - if you are full of power when you start it. If your power is ever not full, its usefullness at that moment goes away.

Giara · 04-20-2006, 11:11 PM

I started out taking the regen when leveling up my fury, however I respec'ed her when I started raiding. With all of my flowing thought items and spirit of the bat and if I have a bard or chanter in group, I have enough regen that I switched to max power pool. At 70, I have self-buffed power sitting at 6300 (wis isn't capped yet) and rarely run out of power while fighting. It is more on your play style as to which way is best for you.

FrontenStuermer · 04-21-2006, 12:54 PM

Hm, i choosed the option for a better powerpool.

I have nearly 6500 of power(not at the max), since i have the manastone, the bats spell and other parts for energy regeneration i have no problems and would choose this again if i could.

There are enough options to get more power in a raid(we have an alchemist who build energy potions)...

I didnt really got any problems with my energy during raids in the past...

Think it depends how your fighting group is build up(classes)...

Boli32 · 04-21-2006, 06:04 PM

You go regen regen regen at the start - before as you accumulate more Flowing Thought gear buffs and other items such as manastones regen becomes less and less important - where I would recomend respecing and taking the larger powerpool.As an aside note at lvl 49 I only have a relatively low WIS score (154); so my power pool is obviously limited but I have taken all the regen options avialible to me and rarely even in constant pulling do I drop below 80% power. Of course this is different in soloing but in a group sense I generally end up with the highest power pool at the end of each fight compared to everyone elses.

04-05-2006, 12:55 AM	#1
Joer General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 50	Hi,at Level 22 and Level ?? you can choose to get 2.5% more Power or +5 Points Power-Regeneration (In-Combat).What is the best for a Fury?Both times to choose the Regeneration or both times more Power or 1/1 ???Thanks for Helping! __________________ Iyona's Everquest 2 - Comics

04-05-2006, 08:05 AM	#4
Bi General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 470	yup, regen every time __________________

04-05-2006, 05:42 PM	#5
Swiftshad General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	A regen of 5 per tic (a tic being 6 seconds), means an extra 50 power per minute in combat. (Out of combat regen is really irrelevant as with drinks, spirit of monkey etc I dont have any problems regening power quickly out of combat.) 2.5% of my power pool is 150 = 3 minutes of regen. Therefore if a fight is less than three minutes long I would have had less available power if I choose regen over a percentage increase. Most fights are less than three minutes, only some named mobs in raids take longer than that but not many. There are some instances where chain pulling and continual combat means you can only rely on in-combat regen, but overall we usually have to have a power break for DPS or a main tank before I have issues with low power. :smileyvery-happy: __________________

04-06-2006, 08:33 PM	#6
Crono1321 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 838	I always chose the % pool increase, and then the regen afterwords...you're level 22-- you'll get to choose both eventually. __________________ Slips 70 Illusionist

04-06-2006, 09:07 PM	#7
Druid03 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 418	i went for max power every time prismatic(any version) + spirit of the bat + bard/chanter + power stones = nuff regen = happy fury __________________ Tieron Troubador 92

04-05-2006, 02:55 AM	#2
SpritRaja Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ACT, Australia Posts: 418	With LU13 normal regen is based on levels rather than max power. So would go for regen every time as that adds to your current regen rate.

04-05-2006, 07:35 AM	#3
Ashtu Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 196	Regen. No question.

04-06-2006, 09:49 PM	#8
RanaFatua Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Oregon Posts: 54	I went with Regeneration every time. I usually have more power then any priest class some times a warden can get more power then me but usally I do pretty good with having my power over 6,000 by my self so and Regenerations is something you always need when your in raid. Some times you dont get a bard or a enchanter in your group so you need your own regen specially after the nurfed spirit of the bat. I still use it but its not as great as it once was. __________________

04-07-2006, 09:42 AM	#9
Raidi Sovin'faile Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,320	The way I look at it is that 150 power won't help me much on a fight that is quicker than 3 minutes, however the situations that benefit from regen benefit me GREATLY. Therefore regen it is. I don't pick that trait because it's going to help me a lot in normal activities... I pick it because it will help me greatly on those 10 minute or longer fights! Also, at higher levels, chain pulling becomes much more frequent. With all the personal regen people are getting, and having a bard or enchanter in the group feeding more power (especially enchanters with their targeted +10% power every minute AA), it becomes much easier to chain pull. I'd rather not be the reason for our group having to pause for a power break, and +10 regen from traits is one step away from that.

04-07-2006, 11:17 AM	#10
enrique_to Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 177	I'll always choose regen power. I have prismatic, I have spirit of the bat at adept III, I have golden efreet bots and many regen mana items. And of course I have manastone... I hardly go out of mana. I'm happy with my mana regen rate and I hardly have need to employ drink __________________ Sonia (70 level Fury Gnome) Malvado (70 level Dark elf Warlock / 70 level Tailor) Crushbone Server Sorry but English Is not my native languaje

04-07-2006, 12:28 PM	#11
Bi General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 470	If you rarely go out of power then you arent healing or nuking enough I need drink to not go out of power, and only cast my debuffs and heals if we are chainpulling through a dungeon.i have prismatic, as well as 6FT items I believe (Amulet of Ro(have the moa, but not 70 yet :sob:, Druzics ring, FT3gloves, GEBs etc) manastone, Vessel, Regen Elixir.The only times I dont go oop is when i'm grouping with a bard or chanter (or another priest, but then I nuke harder, and go oop more) Message Edited by bieb on 04-07-200604:09 AM __________________

04-13-2006, 07:08 PM	#12
Bladeskar Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 12	I went with the percentage increase and I have never had a problem with getting low on power, It may also be because I have some flowing thought items as well, but with over 6300 power, I have the most power out of any self-buffed healer I've seen on my server yet.

04-14-2006, 03:41 AM	#13
SpritRaja Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ACT, Australia Posts: 418	I agree with Bieb if you are not getting close to oop in battle you are not using your fury to the best of its abilities. Or your group is having to many rest breaks. Personally I am always at around half power in fights and try to keep it like that. I tend to slow down a bit when I reach half power and keep the rest for emergencies. Edit: to be more precise I am normally under half power but my goal is to be at half power lol. Message Edited by SpritRaja on 04-13-2006 04:43 PM

04-14-2006, 06:04 PM	#14
Lulian Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 65	Nether one will [Removed for Content] you and in most normal everyday situations it doesn't matter. In raiding it does begin to make a differnce, with t7 and mobs with a billion hps it seems. Hell, you can drop a t6 zone boss it seems quicker than some trash mobs in t7. I went with power regen both times and I am happy. __________________

04-15-2006, 12:02 AM	#15
Elisse Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	I am another one who chose power regen over power pool both times, and have been very happy with it. Once you're out of power, which happens to me soloing, with unexpected adds etc or in groups (but much more rarely) the regen will get you where you need to be a little more quickly. I also hate downtime, and regen helps impatient people like me with that.Also, it's easier to increase your power pool with gear than it is to increase your power regen with gear.

04-15-2006, 11:27 AM	#16
DevilsEnvy Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 25	The answer to this question is really very simple, if you consider it over the long term. You will always pick more power. Let me explain why. The FT5 vs. the +2.5% power pool has been debated over and over. When you think about the long term... you will always pick the 2.5% power pool. Right now, my power is around 6700 self buffed at lvl 70, which with rough math is about 335 extra power from the 5%. If I had FT10, which gives 100 more power a minute, then it would take a fight of over 3.35 minutes to earn back that extra power. Rarely, with the exception of some really tough raid mobs, do fights last over 3 minutes each, so right now you have a bit of an edge by going the power route. Furthermore, EQ2 is supposed to be based on 200 levels, which is where you will really see the difference in % vs. FT. Lets just say that at level 140, all stats were doubled. That would mean that the extra 5% power would now be worth roughly 665 power, but the FT would still only be 10. So, if you pick the FT option, you will see diminishing returns as your character progresses.

04-17-2006, 02:58 PM	#17
Usari Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Vyemm, Hurricanus, Tarinax, Talandor, Gorenaire and The Princes are all longer than 3 minute fights - Regen. If you die and get rezzed mid-fight your 5% extra power is gone - Regen. If you've hit the in-combat regen cap - Pool. __________________ Usarina Ogre Fury

04-17-2006, 06:40 PM	#18
enrique_to Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 177	My Raiding experience makes me happy to have chossen mana regen. I'm unhappy If I go lower than 60% of my mana pool. Of couse you can go lower in many situations. But I try to keep mana as a treasure. The more mana you have the more heals you can do. My tank use to pull really fast betwen mobs so I have little time to regen mana. And of course in a RAID once you are engaged you won't have nothing of out of combat regen till RAID mob is death. That's cause I try to keep mana as long as posible and that's why I think mana regen is a great hability. I figth many RAIDs of more that 3 mins If I'm the secondady healer I asume a nuker role. And I do it pretty good. I have a nice INT and Furys are good as nuker But alwais keep mana for success Message Edited by enrique_tome on 04-17-2006 07:42 AM __________________ Sonia (70 level Fury Gnome) Malvado (70 level Dark elf Warlock / 70 level Tailor) Crushbone Server Sorry but English Is not my native languaje

04-17-2006, 07:15 PM	#19
Ashtu Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 196	Usari wrote: Vyemm, Hurricanus, Tarinax, Talandor, Gorenaire and The Princes are all longer than 3 minute fights - Regen. And many others if you take them on with less than optimal sized forces. Like trio'ing magolemus in your 50's, X'Haviz, etc. Lots of huge hp mobs. Bigger pool only helps at the begining of a fight - if you are full of power when you start it. If your power is ever not full, its usefullness at that moment goes away.

04-20-2006, 11:11 PM	#20
Giara Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 84	I started out taking the regen when leveling up my fury, however I respec'ed her when I started raiding. With all of my flowing thought items and spirit of the bat and if I have a bard or chanter in group, I have enough regen that I switched to max power pool. At 70, I have self-buffed power sitting at 6300 (wis isn't capped yet) and rarely run out of power while fighting. It is more on your play style as to which way is best for you. __________________

04-21-2006, 12:54 PM	#21
FrontenStuermer Lord Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 23	Hm, i choosed the option for a better powerpool. I have nearly 6500 of power(not at the max), since i have the manastone, the bats spell and other parts for energy regeneration i have no problems and would choose this again if i could. There are enough options to get more power in a raid(we have an alchemist who build energy potions)... I didnt really got any problems with my energy during raids in the past... Think it depends how your fighting group is build up(classes)...

04-21-2006, 06:04 PM	#22
Boli32 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,425	You go regen regen regen at the start - before as you accumulate more Flowing Thought gear buffs and other items such as manastones regen becomes less and less important - where I would recomend respecing and taking the larger powerpool.As an aside note at lvl 49 I only have a relatively low WIS score (154); so my power pool is obviously limited but I have taken all the regen options avialible to me and rarely even in constant pulling do I drop below 80% power. Of course this is different in soloing but in a group sense I generally end up with the highest power pool at the end of each fight compared to everyone elses.