Jeering onslaught and Utter Destruction need a target?

Tekadeo · 04-26-2012, 11:46 AM

The issue with Jeering has been out there for a long time and never been addressed, but the new AoE Utter Destruction also requires you to have a target to cast it. It's a medium annoyance and not game breaking, but an annoyance nonetheless. Why do we have the only two AoE's that require a target?I thought maybe you needed a target for the new one simply because it was formerly a single target skill. But then I leveled my Swashy up and their single-target-turned-AoE does NOT need a target. What the heck gives here? Why do these two Zerker AoE's need a target? Any ideas? Is it gamebreaking to have multiple open AoE's? /puzzled.

Talathion · 04-26-2012, 03:57 PM

Tekadeo wrote:

The issue with Jeering has been out there for a long time and never been addressed, but the new AoE Utter Destruction also requires you to have a target to cast it. It's a medium annoyance and not game breaking, but an annoyance nonetheless. Why do we have the only two AoE's that require a target?I thought maybe you needed a target for the new one simply because it was formerly a single target skill. But then I leveled my Swashy up and their single-target-turned-AoE does NOT need a target. What the heck gives here? Why do these two Zerker AoE's need a target? Any ideas? Is it gamebreaking to have multiple open AoE's? /puzzled.

Why does insolence go away if you don't hit anything with it?

Talathion · 04-26-2012, 03:58 PM

[email protected] Bayle wrote:

Tekadeo wrote:
The issue with Jeering has been out there for a long time and never been addressed, but the new AoE Utter Destruction also requires you to have a target to cast it. It's a medium annoyance and not game breaking, but an annoyance nonetheless. Why do we have the only two AoE's that require a target?I thought maybe you needed a target for the new one simply because it was formerly a single target skill. But then I leveled my Swashy up and their single-target-turned-AoE does NOT need a target. What the heck gives here? Why do these two Zerker AoE's need a target? Any ideas? Is it gamebreaking to have multiple open AoE's? /puzzled.
Why does insolence go away if you don't hit anything with it?

Why is blood rage worthless?

Tekadeo · 04-27-2012, 12:21 PM

[email protected] Bayle wrote:

Why does insolence go away if you don't hit anything with it?

Because it gives a self buff

Tekadeo · 04-27-2012, 12:22 PM

[email protected] Bayle wrote:

Why is blood rage worthless?

Why are you derailing another thread?

Tekadeo · 04-29-2012, 12:40 PM

I am upgrading this to a real annoyance. When you are facing multiple adds is when you cast your AoE's. These mobs die fast, but if you try and cast either aoe and a mob dies before you finish casting, you get "No target" even though there are targets for a normal aoe to hit, and you have to retarget and cast again (or try).

Unless there is some unforseen reasoning behind this, FIX PLEASE!

LygerT · 04-29-2012, 03:04 PM

blue AoEs should never need a target, the end.

but don't hold your breath.

Tekadeo · 04-29-2012, 04:05 PM

[email protected] wrote:

blue AoEs should never need a target, the end.
but don't hold your breath.

Lyger while I share your general frustration with our beloved Berserker class, turn that frown upside down bro. At least we have a little better itemization so far in DoV2.0.

yadlajoi · 05-03-2012, 08:51 AM

better itemization? i ve seen lot of gear with ae AUTO ATTACK... evryone has zerker mythical... anyway blue ae SHOULD NEVER NEED A TARGET.

Tekadeo · 05-04-2012, 12:04 AM

Better itemization = copious amounts of multi attack. As bad as Tuor annoys the general population, he's right. We need tons of MA to hold aggro, and we need hit rates to hold aggro.

Since SoE refuses to fix the warrior aa tree or any of our multiple (seriously, multiple) issues, this is all we can do.

Also bumping for a fix to Jeering and Utter Destruction to NOT require a target.

04-26-2012, 11:46 AM	#1
Tekadeo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 364	The issue with Jeering has been out there for a long time and never been addressed, but the new AoE Utter Destruction also requires you to have a target to cast it. It's a medium annoyance and not game breaking, but an annoyance nonetheless. Why do we have the only two AoE's that require a target?I thought maybe you needed a target for the new one simply because it was formerly a single target skill. But then I leveled my Swashy up and their single-target-turned-AoE does NOT need a target. What the heck gives here? Why do these two Zerker AoE's need a target? Any ideas? Is it gamebreaking to have multiple open AoE's? /puzzled. __________________

04-26-2012, 03:57 PM	#2
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Tekadeo wrote: The issue with Jeering has been out there for a long time and never been addressed, but the new AoE Utter Destruction also requires you to have a target to cast it. It's a medium annoyance and not game breaking, but an annoyance nonetheless. Why do we have the only two AoE's that require a target?I thought maybe you needed a target for the new one simply because it was formerly a single target skill. But then I leveled my Swashy up and their single-target-turned-AoE does NOT need a target. What the heck gives here? Why do these two Zerker AoE's need a target? Any ideas? Is it gamebreaking to have multiple open AoE's? /puzzled. Why does insolence go away if you don't hit anything with it?

04-26-2012, 03:58 PM	#3
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	[email protected] Bayle wrote: Tekadeo wrote: The issue with Jeering has been out there for a long time and never been addressed, but the new AoE Utter Destruction also requires you to have a target to cast it. It's a medium annoyance and not game breaking, but an annoyance nonetheless. Why do we have the only two AoE's that require a target?I thought maybe you needed a target for the new one simply because it was formerly a single target skill. But then I leveled my Swashy up and their single-target-turned-AoE does NOT need a target. What the heck gives here? Why do these two Zerker AoE's need a target? Any ideas? Is it gamebreaking to have multiple open AoE's? /puzzled. Why does insolence go away if you don't hit anything with it? Why is blood rage worthless?

04-27-2012, 12:21 PM	#4
Tekadeo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 364	[email protected] Bayle wrote: Why does insolence go away if you don't hit anything with it? Because it gives a self buff __________________

04-27-2012, 12:22 PM	#5
Tekadeo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 364	[email protected] Bayle wrote: Why is blood rage worthless? Why are you derailing another thread? __________________

04-29-2012, 12:40 PM	#6
Tekadeo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 364	I am upgrading this to a real annoyance. When you are facing multiple adds is when you cast your AoE's. These mobs die fast, but if you try and cast either aoe and a mob dies before you finish casting, you get "No target" even though there are targets for a normal aoe to hit, and you have to retarget and cast again (or try). Unless there is some unforseen reasoning behind this, FIX PLEASE! __________________

04-29-2012, 03:04 PM	#7
LygerT Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: las vegas, NV Posts: 2,144	blue AoEs should never need a target, the end. but don't hold your breath.

04-29-2012, 04:05 PM	#8
Tekadeo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 364	[email protected] wrote: blue AoEs should never need a target, the end. but don't hold your breath. Lyger while I share your general frustration with our beloved Berserker class, turn that frown upside down bro. At least we have a little better itemization so far in DoV2.0. __________________

05-03-2012, 08:51 AM	#9
yadlajoi Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 155	better itemization? i ve seen lot of gear with ae AUTO ATTACK... evryone has zerker mythical... anyway blue ae SHOULD NEVER NEED A TARGET.

05-04-2012, 12:04 AM	#10
Tekadeo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 364	Better itemization = copious amounts of multi attack. As bad as Tuor annoys the general population, he's right. We need tons of MA to hold aggro, and we need hit rates to hold aggro. Since SoE refuses to fix the warrior aa tree or any of our multiple (seriously, multiple) issues, this is all we can do. Also bumping for a fix to Jeering and Utter Destruction to NOT require a target. __________________