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Old 06-28-2011, 09:07 PM   #1
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Please for crying out loud put in another method of acquiring the runes that drop off the PQs. Being forced to farm PQs mindlessly in hopes that one will randomly drop is maddening. Consider putting them on the gnoll vendor in thurgadin harbor. Make them have a requirement of 40k with both thurhadin & rygor if you need to. Just please give us an alternative to PQs.
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Old 06-29-2011, 06:52 AM   #2
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Seconded, but I think SOE wants to keep a steady stream of ubers to carry semi-AFKers to free gear at those PQs.

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:23 AM   #3
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I dont think it really is that big of an issue. Maybe if there were a larger variety of possible runes..but overall I dont think it is needed. I dont even want the things, and I hardly run any pqs anymore and have 3 yellow and 12 red from pqs.

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:31 AM   #4
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well its the only way to get a 30% yellow or 40% red AE auto attack rune so for my swashy and pally thats a pretty big deal.  

Ive run PQ's pretty much non stop since launch and only got the wild swings rune 2 times.. now i need it again as ive upgraded all my swashys gear..

Should i be forced to continue doing PQ's and hope it randomly drops for me.

Why cant they be on a merchant?

At least with war runes onces youve gotten it once you are flagged to purchase it again.. 

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Old 06-29-2011, 03:29 PM   #5
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Dont all adorns drop in a crate already. Its honestly not that hard to get that crate anymore. I dont see a problem with them adding them to a vendor for like 100 heroic shards or something.

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Old 06-29-2011, 05:05 PM   #6
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I think we should be able to buy them once we've had them drop once, like the raid-earned shards.

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Old 06-29-2011, 07:27 PM   #7
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Dont all adorns drop in a crate already. Its honestly not that hard to get that crate anymore. I dont see a problem with them adding them to a vendor for like 100 heroic shards or something.

Well Ive run it every day in the past 2 weeks on my swash tryign to get the rune. doing both PQ's a minimum of 6 times a day total and have yet to see it drop a rune for me.. 

I have gotten 8 weapons and 5 bp's though.. But no rune 

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I think we should be able to buy them once we've had them drop once, like the raid-earned shards.

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Old 06-30-2011, 11:44 AM   #8
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I'd love to know why healers do not get the option to take the aoe rune, since it doesn't have a class restriction?

I would love it for soloing and when I can do some dps on easymode raids, yet I'm being denied access to the rune - if it was class restricted I could understand, but it isn't.

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Old 06-30-2011, 06:04 PM   #9
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I'd love to know why healers do not get the option to take the aoe rune, since it doesn't have a class restriction?

I would love it for soloing and when I can do some dps on easymode raids, yet I'm being denied access to the rune - if it was class restricted I could understand, but it isn't.

i agree with this as well.. My inquis would like to use it... IF IT EVER DROPPED,, please put them on a vendor

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Old 06-30-2011, 06:25 PM   #10
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Could always make them purchasable with cloudy velium jewels
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:01 PM   #11
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Could always make them purchasable with cloudy velium jewels

that would work too..

Why is this issue being ignored?

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Old 07-05-2011, 07:23 PM   #12
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leave it as it is. hopefully the addition of a few people in good gear to help undergeared people will babalnce pqs on servers especially pvp ones.

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Old 07-05-2011, 08:07 PM   #13
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leave it as it is. hopefully the addition of a few people in good gear to help undergeared people will babalnce pqs on servers especially pvp ones.

Yes this is fair, have all the good players equipt the bad once by playing the game for them.

You should work for SoE

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Old 07-05-2011, 10:16 PM   #14
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Crismorn wrote:

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leave it as it is. hopefully the addition of a few people in good gear to help undergeared people will babalnce pqs on servers especially pvp ones.

Yes this is fair, have all the good players equipt the bad once by playing the game for them.

You should work for SoE

undergeared doesn't = bad.

But yes the wild-swing runes should be on sale somewhere. I'm trying to get another one myself...

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Old 07-06-2011, 04:02 AM   #15
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No it shouldn't be for sale - it is a pq rune, they are gotten from doing pqs. 

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Old 07-06-2011, 04:41 AM   #16
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No it shouldn't be for sale - it is a pq rune, they are gotten from doing pqs. 

Then let me do the epic Ring War with 6 people, don't force me to have to be around a bunch of idiots. If we can complete Storm Gorge x4 with 6 people, why can't we do Ring War?

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Old 07-06-2011, 04:58 AM   #17
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Could always make them purchasable with cloudy velium jewels

That's probably the best idea.  Either that or put them on the vendor for the usual 5/10 shards but require 40k thurgadin faction.

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Old 07-06-2011, 06:29 AM   #18
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Why shouldn't you have to group with what you clearly see as inferior players? It is a public quest, with rewards that only come from public quests. Deal with it, if you want the rune do the PQ and suck it up if you are with the commoners. My main is geared pretty sweet mix of normal and HM raid gear, I don't care at all about who I group with on pqs.

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Old 07-06-2011, 09:45 AM   #19
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You also get raid runes from raids, smart guy. And once you loot them, there's a merchant to repurchase them.

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Old 07-06-2011, 11:03 AM   #20
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I like the current system.

Sure, it would be so much easier to get the rune once and then buy it from a merchant.

However, having to run a pq to get it again helps everyone else who does pq , alts, new players etc.

Since a PQ is in fact a Public Quest, I'd say the current system best in its current form.

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Old 07-06-2011, 02:24 PM   #21
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I like the current system.

Sure, it would be so much easier to get the rune once and then buy it from a merchant.

However, having to run a pq to get it again helps everyone else who does pq , alts, new players etc.

Since a PQ is in fact a Public Quest, I'd say the current system best in its current form.

If you actually got a rune everytime you did the PQ i would agree with you.  But ive done close to 100 pq's now and seen no rune drop at all.

I do love that the devs feel it prudent to respond to threads about mounts, stationcash, server upgrades, etc.  But when it comes to responding to an actual thread about something even semi important it goes ignored.

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Old 07-06-2011, 03:06 PM   #22
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Plz do something about this. Running PQs for a small chance at these runes is painful.

1. Once you get one it unlocks like other war runes.

2. You can buy them for cloudies.

3. Once you get max 40K faction with a couple main factions you can buy them with ...

Any combination of those things is fine. Just some way so i dont have to run PQs over and over on a char that doesnt need anything else from PQs.

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Old 07-06-2011, 03:30 PM   #23
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Cratoh wrote:

Why shouldn't you have to group with what you clearly see as inferior players? It is a public quest, with rewards that only come from public quests. Deal with it, if you want the rune do the PQ and suck it up if you are with the commoners. My main is geared pretty sweet mix of normal and HM raid gear, I don't care at all about who I group with on pqs.

Why should I be penalized by the fact that other people aren't around when we could complete the event with 6 people, but aren't allowed to for an arbitrary reason?

Better yet, this is a game, why am I FORCED to repeat content far below my progression if I want to better my character?

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Bacause that is the way it works. Shouldn't need to spell it out for you really. PQs are entry level DoV content for new players and alts alike, and the fact that there are decent runes available there for endgamers means that there is a chance that when the aforementioned undergeared players are trying to run what is, for them, a pretty hard task, they may get some help.

Having to interact with all strata of level 85+ players in this MMO is not a bad thing, nor needed to be changed.

Possible compromise for my and your point of view would be having the chance of a decent drop increased per contribution to the event.

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Bacause that is the way it works. Shouldn't need to spell it out for you really. PQs are entry level DoV content for new players and alts alike, and the fact that there are decent runes available there for endgamers means that there is a chance that when the aforementioned undergeared players are trying to run what is, for them, a pretty hard task, they may get some help.

Having to interact with all strata of level 85+ players in this MMO is not a bad thing, nor needed to be changed.

Possible compromise for my and your point of view would be having the chance of a decent drop increased per contribution to the event.

It would be very nice if we could increase our odds of getting a rune by holding aggro longer/healing more/parsing higher/buffing more.  I don't mean increasing or odds of getting the good chest, but actually increasing the odds of a rare drop.

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this will continue to be ignored be development par for the course im afraid

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I'd really like the adorns to be sold at a merchant as well.  Try doing a pq on naggy its basically impossible and non existant.  Most pqs if you are lucky are the heroic version.  I don't  think there has been a raid version since the last gu...  So basically you can no longer get these adorns on naggy =(.

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Another 35 pq's, participating in all stages and being 1st on the parse everytime and still no rune. Please do something about this!
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:35 PM   #29
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if they make them purchaseable with cloudies this solves the garbage RNG (which does suck) and yet forces higher lvls to still participate and help out with these and since cloudies are capped its not like it will be super quick to get the runes and will give peeps incentive to still run the PQs for the dropped version.

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if they make them purchaseable with cloudies this solves the garbage RNG (which does suck) and yet forces higher lvls to still participate and help out with these and since cloudies are capped its not like it will be super quick to get the runes and will give peeps incentive to still run the PQs for the dropped version.

yes this would work.. Im just sick of running them over and over and over with no end in site as to when or if one will drop.. at least by making thme purchasable with cloudy jewels if one doesnt drop there is at least a goal to work towards.. 

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