Knockbacks are ridiculous!

Tylia · 10-24-2012, 10:47 PM

I don't know about anyone else, but to me getting knocked back and off of the very high platform to my death from almost every group of mobs even when I am backed in to one of those little "dog house" things is NO FUN AT ALL and will most definitely insure that I do not bother with this instance in the future. The knockback from the mobs on these top platforms (which is where you zone in at) is absolutely ridiculous and needs to be toned down. Seriously!

Edit to add: I called out of the zone when my armor was down to 50% and I had only made it past the first 3 groups of mobs (and that was only because my merc and mystic pet were able to kill the mobs as I was falling to my death). I will definitely not be going back in to this zone unless those ridiculous knockbacks are changed.

melaine_dvarvensplitter · 10-24-2012, 11:13 PM

I was in there and didn't have an issue with knock backs, i had my inq merc from freeport so not sure, I know if the status's on you aren't cured you get smoked hardcore.

I also noticed the crazy amount of curses, welcome back TSO on that point.

Tylia · 10-24-2012, 11:16 PM

I didn't have anything on me to cure. The mobs knocked me back and off of the platforms on pull. Each time.

Edit: There were no knockbacks at all in Wurmbone's Crag. Just this zone and since you zone in way up high on the platforms, you are pretty much dead when you are thrown off unless you are a class with safe fall or are wearing a floaty cloak.

Kander · 10-25-2012, 01:54 PM

[email protected] wrote:

I didn't have anything on me to cure. The mobs knocked me back and off of the platforms on pull. Each time.
Edit: There were no knockbacks at all in Wurmbone's Crag. Just this zone and since you zone in way up high on the platforms, you are pretty much dead when you are thrown off unless you are a class with safe fall or are wearing a floaty cloak.

They are knock UPS, not backs. I will tone them down... maybe.

Twyxx · 10-25-2012, 01:57 PM

We got knocked off the first time, laughed, then just made a better strategy and didn't get knocked off again.

Lethlian · 10-25-2012, 02:43 PM

I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy.

On a side note its definintely knocking back not up.

Kander · 10-25-2012, 03:00 PM

Lethlian wrote:

I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy.
On a side note its definintely knocking back not up.

Yeah I changed the pitch and the frequency. Should be UP and should be less often in the SOLO version.

Maergoth · 10-25-2012, 03:29 PM

My major problem with knockbacks has been running the mob back into position and/or dealing with urgent occurrences right after a knockback.

1. Make mobs root itself for a little bit following a knockback so there's a little time to get back to it.

2. Avoid knockbacks and scripts lining up ( clicking the shaman on Glokus, anyone? )

Keep those two things in mind and I can't really complain about knockbacks. They make players feel less powerful psychologically, getting tossed around like that. Which is cool.

What isn't cool is mobs warping around and walking back into place with a mob when you're due to click on a statue or something.

Tylia · 10-25-2012, 03:53 PM

Kander wrote:

Lethlian wrote:
I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy.
On a side note its definintely knocking back not up.
Yeah I changed the pitch and the frequency. Should be UP and should be less often in the SOLO version.

Thank you Kander. That should make a big difference.

Calthine · 11-06-2012, 10:11 PM

Kander wrote:

Lethlian wrote:
I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy.
On a side note its definintely knocking back not up.
Yeah I changed the pitch and the frequency. Should be UP and should be less often in the SOLO version.

Seems to have worked. If you're paying attention you'll hardly ever die from knockback now. Hardly SMILEY

10-25-2012, 01:54 PM	#4
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	[email protected] wrote: I didn't have anything on me to cure. The mobs knocked me back and off of the platforms on pull. Each time. Edit: There were no knockbacks at all in Wurmbone's Crag. Just this zone and since you zone in way up high on the platforms, you are pretty much dead when you are thrown off unless you are a class with safe fall or are wearing a floaty cloak. They are knock UPS, not backs. I will tone them down... maybe. __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-25-2012, 01:57 PM	#5
Twyxx Guardian Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CA Posts: 244	We got knocked off the first time, laughed, then just made a better strategy and didn't get knocked off again. __________________

10-25-2012, 03:00 PM	#7
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Lethlian wrote: I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy. On a side note its definintely knocking back not up. Yeah I changed the pitch and the frequency. Should be UP and should be less often in the SOLO version. __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-25-2012, 03:29 PM	#8
Maergoth Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 733	My major problem with knockbacks has been running the mob back into position and/or dealing with urgent occurrences right after a knockback. 1. Make mobs root itself for a little bit following a knockback so there's a little time to get back to it. 2. Avoid knockbacks and scripts lining up ( clicking the shaman on Glokus, anyone? ) Keep those two things in mind and I can't really complain about knockbacks. They make players feel less powerful psychologically, getting tossed around like that. Which is cool. What isn't cool is mobs warping around and walking back into place with a mob when you're due to click on a statue or something. __________________ Jaraxx tells you, 'Why did you die? Man up. Ask for DI from your priests' You tell Jaraxx, 'I had a "save" running..' http://tinyurl.com/PaladinFeedback

10-25-2012, 03:53 PM	#9
Tylia Server: Butcherblock Guild: Test of Time Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 757	Kander wrote: Lethlian wrote: I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy. On a side note its definintely knocking back not up. Yeah I changed the pitch and the frequency. Should be UP and should be less often in the SOLO version. Thank you Kander. That should make a big difference.

10-24-2012, 10:47 PM	#1
Tylia Server: Butcherblock Guild: Test of Time Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 757	I don't know about anyone else, but to me getting knocked back and off of the very high platform to my death from almost every group of mobs even when I am backed in to one of those little "dog house" things is NO FUN AT ALL and will most definitely insure that I do not bother with this instance in the future. The knockback from the mobs on these top platforms (which is where you zone in at) is absolutely ridiculous and needs to be toned down. Seriously! Edit to add: I called out of the zone when my armor was down to 50% and I had only made it past the first 3 groups of mobs (and that was only because my merc and mystic pet were able to kill the mobs as I was falling to my death). I will definitely not be going back in to this zone unless those ridiculous knockbacks are changed.

10-24-2012, 11:13 PM	#2
melaine_dvarvensplitter Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 671	I was in there and didn't have an issue with knock backs, i had my inq merc from freeport so not sure, I know if the status's on you aren't cured you get smoked hardcore. I also noticed the crazy amount of curses, welcome back TSO on that point.

10-24-2012, 11:16 PM	#3
Tylia Server: Butcherblock Guild: Test of Time Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 757	I didn't have anything on me to cure. The mobs knocked me back and off of the platforms on pull. Each time. Edit: There were no knockbacks at all in Wurmbone's Crag. Just this zone and since you zone in way up high on the platforms, you are pretty much dead when you are thrown off unless you are a class with safe fall or are wearing a floaty cloak.

10-25-2012, 02:43 PM	#6
Lethlian Lord Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 65	I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy. On a side note its definintely knocking back not up.

11-06-2012, 10:11 PM	#10
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	Kander wrote: Lethlian wrote: I'm actually fond of the Knockback effect...it adds an appropriate level of difficulty to the zone that isn't damaged based or cure based, but strategy based on how you approach the mobs in certain areas. Like Tywxx said I had the same reaction, then made a better strategy. On a side note its definintely knocking back not up. Yeah I changed the pitch and the frequency. Should be UP and should be less often in the SOLO version. Seems to have worked. If you're paying attention you'll hardly ever die from knockback now. Hardly __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!