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Old 10-31-2012, 02:55 AM   #151
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Dexella wrote:

A few more answers to questions that have been posed recently...

SOE Live Attendees:

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There will not be an upgrade available prior to launch day. On launch day, the upgrade from the Standard Edition to Collector's Edition will be available for $50. 

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So, basically you want us to give you more money after launch day to upgrade to the CE then it would cost us to pre-order it right now, and basically throw away the item you gave us for attending Fan Faire...

If that's the case, then I would rather have a key sent via email for the standard addition so it can be used an any account we might have instead of our main one, since that would be the one we'd be most likely to order the CE for if we're going to order it at all.

Thinking that this may be the first CE that I don't get. That makes me sad.

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Old 10-31-2012, 08:56 AM   #152
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Dexella wrote:

SOE Live Attendees:

You will get the Cloak of Mourning (pre-order exclusive item) in your Standard Edition expansion. 

There will not be an upgrade available prior to launch day. On launch day, the upgrade from the Standard Edition to Collector's Edition will be available for $50.

Wait...what?

So the Collector's Edition costs $5 MORE for SOE Live attendees than people who stayed home?

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Old 10-31-2012, 09:09 AM   #153
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feldon30 wrote:

Dexella wrote:

SOE Live Attendees:

You will get the Cloak of Mourning (pre-order exclusive item) in your Standard Edition expansion. 

There will not be an upgrade available prior to launch day. On launch day, the upgrade from the Standard Edition to Collector's Edition will be available for $50.

Wait...what?

So the Collector's Edition costs $5 MORE for SOE Live attendees than people who stayed home?

... Yeah, that makes no sense to me as well. Last time there was a CE upgrade option we only had to pay $20 for it. Here's my 2cp:

1. All Access pass holders should automatically get the CE. Those are the people who forked over a *lot* more to attend Fan Faire.2. One day pass holders should have to pay the upgrade fee--and it's NOT an upgrade if you're making them pay $50... if that's the case, they would be better off pre-ordering the CE currently. $20, or at absolute worst, $30, sounds more reasonable. I'm sure the default cost of upgrading will be $50 and after the DoV upgrade fiasco that sounds easiest, but there has got to be some sort of middle ground here.

edit: Not sure why Feldon is seeing those prices, I still see $40 and $60.. either way, I still think offering the 'upgrade' for $50 to Fan Faire attendees feels like flipping us the bird. Honestly, there's *not* enough in the upgrade to warrant forking over $50 when I'm still paying off my hotel bill.

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Old 10-31-2012, 09:12 AM   #154
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2. The Collector's Edition mercs have significantly higher stats and confidence than the standard mercs (they can take a lot more of a challenge before they cower/debuff).

Can you be a bit more specific about this?  Will they be as powerful as Elite status or at least close to it?  I've heard of the DPS an Elite merc can do so while I understand it's a pally/templar I'm still hoping it can do much better than the Archon can, for instance.

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feldon30 wrote:

Dexella wrote:

SOE Live Attendees:

You will get the Cloak of Mourning (pre-order exclusive item) in your Standard Edition expansion. 

There will not be an upgrade available prior to launch day. On launch day, the upgrade from the Standard Edition to Collector's Edition will be available for $50.

Wait...what?

So the Collector's Edition costs $5 MORE for SOE Live attendees than people who stayed home?

The prices you're seeing are for members who have an All Access Pass (note that the title is "Standard All Access" and "Collector's All Access"). Those are not general preorder prices.

The preorder prices are $39.99 for Standard and $59.99 for Collector's. After launch, the Collector's price will be $89.99.  

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:17 PM   #156
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Cyliena wrote:

edit: Not sure why Feldon is seeing those prices, I still see $40 and $60.. either way, I still think offering the 'upgrade' for $50 to Fan Faire attendees feels like flipping us the bird. Honestly, there's *not* enough in the upgrade to warrant forking over $50 when I'm still paying off my hotel bill.

Apparently I'm All Access and we get a discount.

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Old 10-31-2012, 02:00 PM   #157
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Dexella wrote:

The prices you're seeing are for members who have an All Access Pass (note that the title is "Standard All Access" and "Collector's All Access"). Those are not general preorder prices.

The preorder prices are $39.99 for Standard and $59.99 for Collector's. After launch, the Collector's price will be $89.99.  

So let me make sure I understand this correctly so I buy the right thing at the right time.

As an All Access subscriber and an SOE Live attendee, these are my options:

Pre-order the collector's edition now for $44.99.

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Wait until the expansion launches, then upgrade my free standard edition to the collector's edition for $50.

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Old 10-31-2012, 02:27 PM   #158
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$50, really?  Why would I buy that when I can just buy the CE straight out for $45?  Did you typo?

I think my threshold is $30.  Otherwise it's just too much.

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Old 10-31-2012, 02:43 PM   #159
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* Destiny of Velious CE was a $20 upgrade for Fan Faire 2010 attendees.* Age of Discovery CE was included with Fan Faire 2011 all access pass.

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Old 10-31-2012, 02:47 PM   #160
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feldon30 wrote:

* Destiny of Velious CE was a $20 upgrade for Fan Faire 2010 attendees.* Age of Discovery CE was included with Fan Faire 2011 all access pass.

I was just looking for that SMILEY

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Old 10-31-2012, 03:05 PM   #161
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Well I've pre ordered the standard edition for my two accounts. Can't justify $20 for a slightly better merc. Gonna keep hunting for the elites for my alts.

Ditto.  As someone who mostly uses healer mercs in a passive mode, it doesn't sounds like it's going to be noticably better than my regular merc.  That makes the collector's edition really, really underwhelming.

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Old 10-31-2012, 09:27 PM   #162
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An argument could be made that with this being the weakest collector's edition to date that fan faire atendees should get the whole thing at no extra cost.  However, not allowing them to atleast upgrade at the pre order price is a slap in the face imo.

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Old 10-31-2012, 11:58 PM   #163
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AA Boost - Boost two level 90 characters to 280 Alternate Advancement points and begin the journey to levels 91 through 95.


I have been following a thread in the General Discussion forum and someone mentioned this today.  I went back and read the promo - I had totally missed it.  I just want to say - great move SOE!  I love it.   Of all the (way to many) hours I've spent in this game - this will give me back tons of time.  It will save me from hours and hours of alt grinding - and get on to playing the stuff I want to. 

A terrific addition; kudos.  And thanks.

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Old 11-01-2012, 08:31 AM   #164
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Just went and cancelled my pre-order for the CE. I refuse to pay $60 for a crappy merc and potions that are already on the SC store.

Give us something WORTH the extra money (prestige house, mount, etc) and I and others may get the CE. As it stands now, no way in heck.

And again, Everquest got SIXTEEN useful items with their exp, and EQII got a couple. EXTREMELY UNFAIR.

*edit* Oh, I went and checked in game. Every one of my characters has a "Welcome Home Potion Pack" that has the travel bells, xp potions, etc....for FREE.

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Old 11-01-2012, 11:49 AM   #165
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Raienya wrote:

Give us something WORTH the extra money (prestige house, mount, etc) and I and others may get the CE. As it stands now, no way in heck.

And again, Everquest got SIXTEEN useful items with their exp, and EQII got a couple. EXTREMELY UNFAIR.

*edit* Oh, I went and checked in game. Every one of my characters has a "Welcome Home Potion Pack" that has the travel bells, xp potions, etc....for FREE.

The CE seems pretty light on extras this year. Not enough to justify the price.

The Welcome Home pack was from the Sony hack.

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Old 11-01-2012, 02:19 PM   #166
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I thought all new characters now get a pack of pots, the speed cloak, etc.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:51 PM   #167
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After some dilberation I've decided not to purchase the CE. I require more substance such as a house, mount, or armor. I'll just save my money and scoop items of that variety up during triple SC weekend. :]The Firionia Vie Tapestry is somewhat creepy, besides. It reminds me of an article I read about japanese friendship pillows...

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Old 11-01-2012, 06:11 PM   #168
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feldon30 wrote:

Raienya wrote:

Give us something WORTH the extra money (prestige house, mount, etc) and I and others may get the CE. As it stands now, no way in heck.

And again, Everquest got SIXTEEN useful items with their exp, and EQII got a couple. EXTREMELY UNFAIR.

*edit* Oh, I went and checked in game. Every one of my characters has a "Welcome Home Potion Pack" that has the travel bells, xp potions, etc....for FREE.

The CE seems pretty light on extras this year. Not enough to justify the price.

The Welcome Home pack was from the Sony hack.

That's right, I had almost forgot about the hack. Still, the potions can be bought on the SC store, so not worth the CE price for a merc you still have to hire, a weapon replica, a cloak, and a couple of other items.

I wasn't around for the first several expansions, but did those include prestige houses or at least a mount? Because for the extra $20, people who buy the CE are seriously getting ripped off.

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Old 11-01-2012, 06:22 PM   #169
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My only complaint is the price difference for the SOE Live folks.  I'm one of those and I'm excited to be getting the COE standard edition for free.  Really, I'm pleased with that and I didn't expect it.  However, if I'm as dedicated to this game to go to SOE Live, I'm probably dedicated enough to buy the CE as well.  Right now, the price difference to get CE is $20...why would I want to spend $50 more to get the CE later?  Can't I purchase the upgrade now for the $20 SOE?  It's not that I don't want to preorder, I'm totally willing to do that.  But I can't if I was an SOE attendee.

I called Customer Service and had a very kind and helpful person.  However, their best advice to me was to cancel my preorder and then upgrade my free version when it comes.  Hmmm, how about I one more preorder tab that lets us upgrade now for $20 more?

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Old 11-01-2012, 10:15 PM   #170
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If I get just this expansion, will I get the previous one as well? I just returned and last expansion I purchased was Velious back when it came out, then quit shortly after.

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Old 11-01-2012, 10:37 PM   #171
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If I get just this expansion, will I get the previous one as well? I just returned and last expansion I purchased was Velious back when it came out, then quit shortly after.

Age of Discovery still falls outside of the "All-in-One Expansion" packs. $80 is a steep price to get back into the game after taking a hiatus. Hopefully they work on the price of AoD a bit.

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Old 11-01-2012, 11:58 PM   #172
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Ammemti wrote:

If I get just this expansion, will I get the previous one as well? I just returned and last expansion I purchased was Velious back when it came out, then quit shortly after.

Age of Discovery still falls outside of the "All-in-One Expansion" packs. $80 is a steep price to get back into the game after taking a hiatus. Hopefully they work on the price of AoD a bit.

Darn, this means $ 120 with a 3month subscription for an empty game. SMILEY

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Old 11-02-2012, 12:35 AM   #173
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I thought someone said it was only going to cost us Soelive attendees $20 to upgrade to the Collector's edition? I would have sworn on it five days ago but since reading the forums with everyone saying its going to be $50, im thinking I was wrong.

If I am I tossing the free gift one in the garbage.

I mean what's the point? I wait and then upgrade then dont get the goodies for preodering and it costs me 50.00 more ...or just toss it and buy the the preorder collectors now for $60..

it basically makes the 'free' one pointless and useless.

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When planning to sell a product, its important to know what group of buyers the particular product is designed to attract. Like everywhere else, people are diverse and have different interests.

If we look at the collector's edition of Chains of Eternity it attracts less people than the two previous collector's edition due to less content.

As for myself, the reason I play eq2 is the prestige housing concept. Since there is no prestige housing included and I have the two previous expansions (Velious collector's edition according to this thread is included with CoE, which I have), I see no reason to buy collector's edition.

Question to Dexella, Any hope for a prestige housing in this expansion ? 

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Old 11-02-2012, 08:12 AM   #175
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feldon30 wrote:

Ammemti wrote:

If I get just this expansion, will I get the previous one as well? I just returned and last expansion I purchased was Velious back when it came out, then quit shortly after.

Age of Discovery still falls outside of the "All-in-One Expansion" packs. $80 is a steep price to get back into the game after taking a hiatus. Hopefully they work on the price of AoD a bit.

same price as the other 8 year old game if you where two expansions behind

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Old 11-02-2012, 02:01 PM   #176
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I was thinking about coming back and purchasing the CE but I don’t think it represents good value at all. Ok there’s a merc which you could say has taken the place of a mount, but no house? Not impressed.

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I pre-ordered the Standard Edition.  I already have a Fironia Vie action figure on my desk (from some EQ1 Collector's Box way back when) and plenty of images of her on the internet. SMILEY Honestly, how often would I really look at the tapestry in my house?

My merc is in 95% suspend mode as is and I really don't want some Werewolf looking one following me around, regardless of the stats.

I've got stacks of XP potions sitting around on my toons and many have yet to be /claimed. Odds are I'd be using the 6-hour 25% XP ones from the Tradeskill Apprentices if any. Only time I use the 1-hour 100% ones are when I'm doing Rush Orders where I can get the most bang for my potion buck.

I'd rather use the $20 on SC down the road at some point. SMILEY

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Raienya wrote:

I wasn't around for the first several expansions, but did those include prestige houses or at least a mount? Because for the extra $20, people who buy the CE are seriously getting ripped off.

Aside from launch, we had not had a collector's edition to an expansion untill Sentinel's Fate.  That one came with a mount, the Velious one came with a Prestige home (Everfrost) and a flying mount appearance.  AoD had another prestige home (Lavastorm) as well as a flying mount.  So yes, compared to those three we really arent getting anything worthy to be called a collector's edition.  I wish they would add at least a prestige home to it.

As it stands now, with the shaft to fanfaire atendees, this will be the first collector's edition I do not get unless I can upgrade to it for the pre launch price.

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Hi everyone,

If you're following @WindstalkerEQ2 and @everquestii on Twitter, you've already heard a bit about this news, but I'm here to share it again!

First -- an Ethernere Wyvern flying mount has been added to the Collector's Edition items! Check out this post for more: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=523855 (I'll also be updating the original post in this thread with the image). 

Second -- for SOE Live attendees, you will be able to pre-order an upgrade to the Collector's Edition for $20.00. If you want to upgrade your free Standard Edition to the Collector's Edition, you'll need to go through the regular pre-order process and select the Collector's Edition. You will see the current price ($59.99 USD or foreign currency equivalent) as well as a footnote indicating the price for SOE Live attendees is set at $20.00 (USD or foreign currency equivalent). Complete the pre-order flow for this item. On the day your credit card is charged for the purchase, you will only be charged $20.00, not $59.99. You MUST complete this purchase flow on the account you registered for SOE Live with; otherwise, you will be charged the full amount. Also, this must be completed during the pre-order time frame (now through November 12, 2012 at 11:59pm Pacific Time).  

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Dexella wrote:

You will see the current price ($59.99 USD or foreign currency equivalent) as well as a footnote indicating the price for SOE Live attendees is set at $20.00 (USD or foreign currency equivalent).

So you know, there's not yet any footnote there.

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