Ssraeshza Temple [Heroics]

Chrol · 10-15-2014, 03:23 PM

Hi everyone!

There are three Ssraeshza Temple heroics which you may enter from the Phantom Sea at -1079.4 51.6 -1061.4. If you have any feedback, good or bad, that you'd like to share regarding any and all of these heroics, please post here.

Good luck, and I look forward to hear from you all.

-Chrol

Buffrat · 10-16-2014, 12:41 AM

Ssraeshza Temple heroic, the non aggro rock trash "a malformed geode" is reducing healing by like 5% per increment instead of 1% per increment, so the tooltip is wrong.

Buffrat · 10-16-2014, 12:57 AM

We have to be missing something on the last boss. I can't imagine it's intended that you have to drop all your scouts and bring 1 wizard, 1 conj, and 1 warlock/necro to clear the top adds on the last boss..

Buffrat · 10-16-2014, 01:06 AM

Also I charmed a snake pet on my fury and it was auto attacking for ~1.8-2 million, doing about 3 million dps.

Chrol · 10-16-2014, 01:16 AM

You should only need one mage. And actually, you don't really need any, but it'll make the fight go faster.

Chrol · 10-16-2014, 01:23 AM

I'll get that fixed. Thanks.

Yajirushi62 · 10-16-2014, 01:40 AM

Can the reduction be dropped to 50/75 instead of 75/99? it would make it easier for groups that don't have non-physical weapons. Unless killing the shades is not the intended kill method.

Ucala · 10-16-2014, 01:43 AM

the end fight has a few bugs.

the adds on the bottom would sometimes run up to us, hit us and than despawn cause they were too far or something.
it was causing the shades fighting to be harder than they already are

Chrol · 10-16-2014, 01:54 AM

There's a way to remove that damage reduction. I will throw up a hint somewhere.

Chrol · 10-16-2014, 01:56 AM

You're supposed to be safe from them when you're up on the platform, but stopping NPCs from pathing when you change elevation is tricky. I'm still looking at ways to get them to not follow.

You said the end has a few bugs but you listed one. I demand more!

Yajirushi62 · 10-16-2014, 02:32 AM

The other highly noticeable one was the one I already posted, running them with Ucala now.

Ucala · 10-16-2014, 02:33 AM

well, you could use the waterfalls pouring down on you to swim up to the Shades. I am not sure if that was the intend or not since it avoids the curse you get from the porting Tongue

Ucala · 10-16-2014, 02:34 AM

couldn't you just make them rooted in place on the base floor? I figure that would solve the issue. /shrugs

Chrol · 10-16-2014, 02:51 AM

You can root them yourself! But no, I'd rather not just keep them rooted forever. And yes, use the water. Your armor's probably dirty anyway.

Chrol · 10-16-2014, 07:16 PM

The hooked brineterrors should no longer follow you up the platforms. This will be called out in update notes.

Ucala · 10-17-2014, 01:00 AM

Inner Sanctum.
first name -- we were insta dying on him when we got ported in the darkness due to dpsing him too fast, this is a pug group. I feel that shouldn't be happening Tongue

our dps wasn't even that great.

also the debuff we get from porting (decreases mitigation by 60k). makes the shadow adds that run out of no where hit way way too hard to live through

Chrol · 10-17-2014, 02:10 AM

What was your personal dps and the group's? Also, I'm not sure what could have caused you to instantly die by dps'ing him too fast...

I'll take a look at that debuff, thanks.

Ucala · 10-17-2014, 02:38 AM

I have parses of group dps from 10mil-16mil.
personally doing 5mil-ish of it.
we would port up into the darkness and than die just about right there.

than when we had just the tank and ranger dps it (group dps 1.7 mil)
we ported up just fine no issues and than died to the adds from the massive debuff

Bloodguts · 10-17-2014, 02:39 AM

Inner Sanctum: Pox Xin'Kaas

1. AVG Group DPS: 1.8 million
We got him to 80% in 10s and he started casting Shadow Meditation

2. My toon has around 116k Resists for everything. The debuff you get after Shadow Meditation reduces your resists by 68k, essentially reducing all your resists in half.

3. At first we were simply getting one shotted as soon as the screen turned black and then ported immedietly to the entrance. After 3 attempts more, we lived for a couple of seconds then 3 adds spawned. Each add hit for 500k magic damage on my ranger with the reduced resists from the debuff, essentially one-shotting me.

Chrol · 10-17-2014, 04:23 AM

Okay so it looks like your deaths have nothing to do with anyone's dps but from that debuff and subsequent attack from the adds. I'll fix that tomorrow.

And 20% in 10 seconds is disheartening. Poor guy.

Chrol · 10-17-2014, 05:10 PM

Dark Atrophy will reduce far less elemental resistance soon. Should make that first fight doable (hopefully).

Ucala · 10-18-2014, 07:58 AM

that's good

another bug I noticed today.
if a group is already in an instance of this zone. (Inner Sanctum) and I, someone not in the group try to zone into an instance for my own group, I went into the first groups instance while they were still in there for some reason

Chrol · 10-18-2014, 04:13 PM

A fix is in for that already Ucala. Thanks.

Ucala · 10-19-2014, 10:22 PM

again that's good.

I saw the patch notes today for lower resist on the port thing. which is good.
but the first name is still very broken. he continues to insta kill the group on porting if we dps him too fast.

it is very easy to re-create the simulation of it. just get a group of group dps more than 1.7 mil really (which should be any group with more than 2 people)

Chrol · 10-19-2014, 10:35 PM

I'll look further at this tomorrow morning. What is killing you exactly?

Ucala · 10-19-2014, 10:55 PM

ACT doesn't really say.
we just would get ported into darkness, then we would die right by the entrance of the zone in.
red text saying something about his concentration has flattered or something. but no adds ever came when we got ported and we were only in the darkness for like half a second

Chrol · 10-19-2014, 11:31 PM

Ah okay I know what the problem is. Thanks.

Ucala · 10-21-2014, 09:00 PM

we don't all die! the person that killed the shadow lives Tongue

the rest dies

Chrol · 10-21-2014, 09:04 PM

Stop attacking him when he's meditating then...

Ucala · 10-21-2014, 10:19 PM

Inner Sanctum has been the most scripted zone so far in the expac (as far as group zones).

3rd name -- amusing fight really, I don't think the pets should give away the location of the name though Tongue

(and they do).

4th name -- I don't even know what was going on with this name tbh. every like 3% it would port around the room, shadows would spawn and try to attack us and we just stayed in the center where they couldn't get us??

10-16-2014, 01:16 AM	#5
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Buffrat said: ↑ “We have to be missing something on the last boss. I can't imagine it's intended that you have to drop all your scouts and bring 1 wizard, 1 conj, and 1 warlock/necro to clear the top adds on the last boss..” You should only need one mage. And actually, you don't really need any, but it'll make the fight go faster.

10-16-2014, 01:23 AM	#6
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Buffrat said: ↑ “Ssraeshza Temple heroic, the non aggro rock trash "a malformed geode" is reducing healing by like 5% per increment instead of 1% per increment, so the tooltip is wrong.” I'll get that fixed. Thanks.

10-16-2014, 01:54 AM	#9
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Yajirushi62 said: ↑ “Can the reduction be dropped to 50/75 instead of 75/99? it would make it easier for groups that don't have non-physical weapons. Unless killing the shades is not the intended kill method.” There's a way to remove that damage reduction. I will throw up a hint somewhere.

10-16-2014, 01:56 AM	#10
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “the end fight has a few bugs. the adds on the bottom would sometimes run up to us, hit us and than despawn cause they were too far or something. it was causing the shades fighting to be harder than they already are” You're supposed to be safe from them when you're up on the platform, but stopping NPCs from pathing when you change elevation is tricky. I'm still looking at ways to get them to not follow. You said the end has a few bugs but you listed one. I demand more!

10-16-2014, 02:33 AM	#12
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Chrol said: ↑ “You're supposed to be safe from them when you're up on the platform, but stopping NPCs from pathing when you change elevation is tricky. I'm still looking at ways to get them to not follow. You said the end has a few bugs but you listed one. I demand more!” well, you could use the waterfalls pouring down on you to swim up to the Shades. I am not sure if that was the intend or not since it avoids the curse you get from the porting

10-15-2014, 03:23 PM	#1
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Hi everyone! There are three Ssraeshza Temple heroics which you may enter from the Phantom Sea at -1079.4 51.6 -1061.4. If you have any feedback, good or bad, that you'd like to share regarding any and all of these heroics, please post here. Good luck, and I look forward to hear from you all. -Chrol

10-16-2014, 12:41 AM	#2
Buffrat Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ssraeshza Temple heroic, the non aggro rock trash "a malformed geode" is reducing healing by like 5% per increment instead of 1% per increment, so the tooltip is wrong.

10-16-2014, 12:57 AM	#3
Buffrat Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	We have to be missing something on the last boss. I can't imagine it's intended that you have to drop all your scouts and bring 1 wizard, 1 conj, and 1 warlock/necro to clear the top adds on the last boss..

10-16-2014, 01:06 AM	#4
Buffrat Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Also I charmed a snake pet on my fury and it was auto attacking for ~1.8-2 million, doing about 3 million dps.

10-16-2014, 01:40 AM	#7
Yajirushi62 Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Can the reduction be dropped to 50/75 instead of 75/99? it would make it easier for groups that don't have non-physical weapons. Unless killing the shades is not the intended kill method.

10-16-2014, 01:43 AM	#8
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	the end fight has a few bugs. the adds on the bottom would sometimes run up to us, hit us and than despawn cause they were too far or something. it was causing the shades fighting to be harder than they already are

10-16-2014, 02:32 AM	#11
Yajirushi62 Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The other highly noticeable one was the one I already posted, running them with Ucala now.

10-16-2014, 02:34 AM	#13
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Chrol said: ↑ “You're supposed to be safe from them when you're up on the platform, but stopping NPCs from pathing when you change elevation is tricky. I'm still looking at ways to get them to not follow. You said the end has a few bugs but you listed one. I demand more!” couldn't you just make them rooted in place on the base floor? I figure that would solve the issue. /shrugs

10-16-2014, 02:51 AM	#14
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “couldn't you just make them rooted in place on the base floor? I figure that would solve the issue. /shrugs” You can root them yourself! But no, I'd rather not just keep them rooted forever. And yes, use the water. Your armor's probably dirty anyway.

10-16-2014, 07:16 PM	#15
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The hooked brineterrors should no longer follow you up the platforms. This will be called out in update notes.

10-17-2014, 01:00 AM	#16
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Inner Sanctum. first name -- we were insta dying on him when we got ported in the darkness due to dpsing him too fast, this is a pug group. I feel that shouldn't be happening our dps wasn't even that great. also the debuff we get from porting (decreases mitigation by 60k). makes the shadow adds that run out of no where hit way way too hard to live through

10-17-2014, 02:10 AM	#17
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “Inner Sanctum. first name -- we were insta dying on him when we got ported in the darkness due to dpsing him too fast, this is a pug group. I feel that shouldn't be happening our dps wasn't even that great.” What was your personal dps and the group's? Also, I'm not sure what could have caused you to instantly die by dps'ing him too fast... Ucala said: ↑ “also the debuff we get from porting (decreases mitigation by 60k). makes the shadow adds that run out of no where hit way way too hard to live through” I'll take a look at that debuff, thanks.

10-17-2014, 02:38 AM	#18
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Chrol said: ↑ “What was your personal dps and the group's? Also, I'm not sure what could have caused you to instantly die by dps'ing him too fast... I'll take a look at that debuff, thanks.” I have parses of group dps from 10mil-16mil. personally doing 5mil-ish of it. we would port up into the darkness and than die just about right there. than when we had just the tank and ranger dps it (group dps 1.7 mil) we ported up just fine no issues and than died to the adds from the massive debuff

10-17-2014, 02:39 AM	#19
Bloodguts Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2	Chrol said: ↑ “What was your personal dps and the group's? Also, I'm not sure what could have caused you to instantly die by dps'ing him too fast... I'll take a look at that debuff, thanks.” Inner Sanctum: Pox Xin'Kaas 1. AVG Group DPS: 1.8 million We got him to 80% in 10s and he started casting Shadow Meditation 2. My toon has around 116k Resists for everything. The debuff you get after Shadow Meditation reduces your resists by 68k, essentially reducing all your resists in half. 3. At first we were simply getting one shotted as soon as the screen turned black and then ported immedietly to the entrance. After 3 attempts more, we lived for a couple of seconds then 3 adds spawned. Each add hit for 500k magic damage on my ranger with the reduced resists from the debuff, essentially one-shotting me.

10-17-2014, 04:23 AM	#20
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Okay so it looks like your deaths have nothing to do with anyone's dps but from that debuff and subsequent attack from the adds. I'll fix that tomorrow. And 20% in 10 seconds is disheartening. Poor guy.

10-17-2014, 05:10 PM	#21
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Dark Atrophy will reduce far less elemental resistance soon. Should make that first fight doable (hopefully).

10-18-2014, 07:58 AM	#22
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Chrol said: ↑ “Dark Atrophy will reduce far less elemental resistance soon. Should make that first fight doable (hopefully).” that's good another bug I noticed today. if a group is already in an instance of this zone. (Inner Sanctum) and I, someone not in the group try to zone into an instance for my own group, I went into the first groups instance while they were still in there for some reason

10-18-2014, 04:13 PM	#23
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	A fix is in for that already Ucala. Thanks.

10-19-2014, 10:22 PM	#24
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Chrol said: ↑ “A fix is in for that already Ucala. Thanks.” again that's good. I saw the patch notes today for lower resist on the port thing. which is good. but the first name is still very broken. he continues to insta kill the group on porting if we dps him too fast. it is very easy to re-create the simulation of it. just get a group of group dps more than 1.7 mil really (which should be any group with more than 2 people)

10-19-2014, 10:35 PM	#25
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I'll look further at this tomorrow morning. What is killing you exactly?

10-19-2014, 10:55 PM	#26
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	ACT doesn't really say. we just would get ported into darkness, then we would die right by the entrance of the zone in. red text saying something about his concentration has flattered or something. but no adds ever came when we got ported and we were only in the darkness for like half a second

10-19-2014, 11:31 PM	#27
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ah okay I know what the problem is. Thanks.

10-21-2014, 09:00 PM	#28
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Bloodguts said: ↑ “K, now we live a lot longer when he does Shadow Meditation, but as soon as we kill 1 shadow, we all die, and it says his concentration has faltered” we don't all die! the person that killed the shadow lives the rest dies

10-21-2014, 09:04 PM	#29
Chrol Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Stop attacking him when he's meditating then...

10-21-2014, 10:19 PM	#30
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Inner Sanctum has been the most scripted zone so far in the expac (as far as group zones). 3rd name -- amusing fight really, I don't think the pets should give away the location of the name though (and they do). 4th name -- I don't even know what was going on with this name tbh. every like 3% it would port around the room, shadows would spawn and try to attack us and we just stayed in the center where they couldn't get us??