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Old 11-04-2014, 05:40 PM   #1
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1,025 Ferrin is severly overpriced for the runes, is this value intended to decrease when AoM goes to live?
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:43 PM   #2
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Also, you need 40k faction with the Far Seas to buy the Blank Runes and Far Seas Kindling? Even with them being the No-trade/Heirloom componants?
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Old 11-04-2014, 05:50 PM   #3
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Also, is it intended that there is only a mastercraft version of Armor and Block Chance?
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:26 PM   #4
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Edit: redid the math, and the 35 ferin to a single incense makes the 25 fuel on these a bit intense.

From the crafter end of things, I *suspect* that a lot of folks are going to expect the crafter to come up with the 150 Far Seas tokens for each blank rune, and I suspect there will be a lot of pricing arguments going on.

Looking at the recipe end of things, where does the transcendent quintessence come from? Is that supposed to be the special harvest we can get from our new TS prestige starter? Is it in? I'll gladly test harvesting it, but it'd be nice to know if it is even in yet before I do concerted testing. BigGrin
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:42 PM   #5
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It just doesn't make any sense to me that the regular runes will require 875 Ferin to make, however the war runes will only require 350 Ferin to make... Also, the 150 far seas tokens for the blank rune seems to be rather high as well.. with combining all of the currency from my entire army of crafters on live, I'll be able to purchase 3 of them.. :/ The token price for the regular recipe is right where it should be (25).. however the token cost for the war runes (75) should be lowered a tad (to 35-45).. or else make it a 3 use recipe, like the current war rune recipe's on live.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:20 PM   #6
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Oh, I didn't realize that the currency for the blank rune is far seas tokens, that needs to be changed to ferrin instead because otherwise we can't have them commissioned (since that whole TSO currency thing).
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:22 PM   #7
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I agree that the recipe book costs should be reduced (probably to 50), but keep in mind that they're the upgraded runes, not the ones that were dropping in ToV.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:59 PM   #8
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The Ferrin cost on these items is NOT the final cost.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:15 PM   #9
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Any word on the ferrin cost for Green/Red gems for adventurers Caith?
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:16 PM   #10
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Also, will the Blank Rune's currency be changed from Far Seas Tokens to Ferrin, and Far Seas faction be removed from the various items needed to craft purples?
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:37 PM   #11
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Should be on tomorrows beta build.


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Old 11-04-2014, 11:49 PM   #12
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So any adventurer that wants a rune made has to grind faction with the Far Seas and then get 150 tokens to get an armor purple adornment?

**edit** also known as, no crafter will make any purples this expansion unless they're for that crafters account.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:55 PM   #13
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Also, these items will be used for ADVENTURING, why are we being forced to grind crafting (a very boring grind even with the recent changes) to the level required to start getting Far Seas faction and then grind enough tokens to make purple runes?
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:04 AM   #14
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I'm glad to see crafters have some relevance to the game again after this time when they were only good for food/drink and ammo, but do you really need to gate worth-while adventuring items behind 30+ hours of worthless grinding?
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:51 AM   #15
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Are the Superior Runes on the adornment vendor at the docks in Tranquil Sea and the Mastercraft Runes interchangeable on gear sets? In other words, if I have 3 Superior and 4 Mastercrafted Power runes, will I get the 7 rune bonus?
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Old 11-05-2014, 01:48 AM   #16
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transcendent quintessence can be found by refining fabled gear.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:14 AM   #17
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Salvaging?
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:46 AM   #18
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Yes, sorry I confuse the two. I have only transmuted items in the past.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:57 AM   #19
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From what I've seen, they will be interchangeable.
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Old 11-05-2014, 03:12 PM   #20
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Also, only 1 charge on researching a war rune? really? spending 20 days research 1 charge war rune is silly.
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Old 11-05-2014, 03:56 PM   #21
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In another thread:

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Old 11-05-2014, 06:41 PM   #22
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It does seem a bit odd that the runes can, effectively, only be crafted for people who craft..

Oddly enough, the final item is neither heirloom or no trade. So a crafter cannot craft the items for another player using the adventurers currency. But the crafter can burn his/her tradeskill and adventure currency (since it takes far seas tokens and ferrin) and sell the items for plat...
If it was ONLY tradeskill tokens, that might almost make sense. But since the recipes require tradeskill and adventure tokens I have to wonder what the reasoning by making the crafter spend all his/her own currency for them rather then allowing adventures to commission them using their own currency.
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Old 11-05-2014, 07:46 PM   #23
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wrong spot
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:52 PM   #24
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bump bump, very important runes here.
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Old 11-06-2014, 01:57 AM   #25
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How shall we get this huge amount of far sea tokens ?

We have 2 dayly => 4 tokens ...

Or may be we should go back to do TSO crafting missions ?
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Old 11-06-2014, 02:25 AM   #26
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Blank rune costs is lame. There is no way to get that much far sea token for a full set from a single character before the next expansion.
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Old 11-06-2014, 06:08 PM   #27
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It is also odd that the currency cost for the blanks is higher then the currency cost the fuel.. even though there are more (with larger per event payouts) ways to earn the adevnture currency (required for fuel) there there is for the tradeskill currency (for the blanks).
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Old 11-06-2014, 09:35 PM   #28
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Also, will blank runes be obtainable outside of buying? That would be ideal if they dropped in heroics.
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Old 11-06-2014, 09:53 PM   #29
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The daily (yesterday) awarded 5 far seas tokens (all access then x2) so 10 for each daily. Unless you arespeaking of other tokens or reward was changed today? I have not done the daily today so no idea if that was changed.
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:53 AM   #30
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Will there be any other ways to acquire blank runes other than w/ Far Seas Tokens? Looking at the costs... the Rate of Entry will be nearly non-existent.

If you assume 100 tokens per week, it would take 1 week to get a recipe for... say... Wild Swings. Then I'd have 25 tokens.

...that means it would take 1-2 more weeks to be able to craft one singular rune from my recipe.

I think the solution would be to have Blank Runes also be obtainable outside of tradeskilling.
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