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Old 12-20-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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So who else is just a little POed we finally get building blocks for housing, but have to pay station cash for them?  What's this mean for us int he future?  Will we be looking at having to pay SC for more housing items instead of having recipes added to our books?  What do all you decorators think?

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:22 PM   #2
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I've gotta agree.

On the plus side, they have put the time into making the models for the building block items now. But really, SC? I'm a bit shocked at anyone who buys them. The thing about building blocks, is that you need a lot of them to build something with. SC is just not a viable option for something like that (unless you have a lot of cash to blow that is lol ) Bu, it *is* a business. I don't blame them from trying to get some extra cash from the those that have it first before giving us crafted versions.

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:25 PM   #3
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Thing is...  It's sold as a set, so even if you want to use a bunch of one, you've got to buy A LOT of those sets.  So it's almost useless, but this is stuff we have been asking for for years now and... it's SC only...

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:28 PM   #4
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Neversea wrote:

Thing is...  It's sold as a set, so even if you want to use a bunch of one, you've got to buy A LOT of those sets.  

I was just looking at it and there are individual items too for 50SC each. Variety sets and tile sets were 250SC each

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:43 PM   #5
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I was extremely disappointed to see this addition. Some of these items have been requested for years, and they're in the SC shop. 

It would have been much more acceptable to add the basic items to crafters, either artisan or carpenters, then add special skins for SC. 

This just sort of feels like a slap to me.

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Old 12-20-2011, 04:48 PM   #6
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I too would much rather that they not be SC, these items should be crafted, just like the kilts they promised would be crafted and more gis.  I for one am not going to spring for the floor tiles as those can be gotten other ways, and hoping these will resize properly.  Wish they put the other items in crates of 20. 

However... SQUEE!!!  They actually made some!

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Old 12-20-2011, 05:16 PM   #7
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Deeply disappointed at the decision to make this a SC purchase rather than basic carpenter-crafted items, but like others I'm torn a little by the fact the items exist at all (I've been asking for them long enough, after all).

I doubt I'd be getting these as sets or en masse, - far too expensive for anyone with a serious decorating habit - but I'm likely to get the odd piece on occasion when I just can't manage to construct what I need from items already ingame (the round disc, tall thin cylinder and above all, the plain plank are things that I know I'll find useful as the lack of items of these types has frustrated me for ages).

[EDIT] Seemingly the plank is called a 'railing'.  Having just spent a week or so coming up with a number of failures as ideas to make bannisters and a sloping railing that look right, I can ... sort of ... appreciate columns and railings, quite a lot.  But I still wouldn't want to have had to pay 700 SC to build my little bit of staircase decoration.

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Old 12-20-2011, 05:54 PM   #8
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I buy lots of stuff on the marketplace and normally don't complain about it being there, but this time I have to say this was a serious mis-step. 

Building blocks should have gone to carpenters.  Period.

I definitely won't be buying these from the marketplace, in a small showing of defiance/displeasure.  I wonder how well or badly they'll sell?

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Old 12-20-2011, 05:56 PM   #9
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I just want.. but I need... GAAAAH. I can't believe they have added these but as SC! Maybe they will add them with different textures to the game later on as recipies after recouping design costs from the SC store? Or is this a sign that furniture is such a cash cow they think they can milk us for this too? I'm guilty of buying a LOT of furniture (only on sale) but still. When I add up the cost of the sheer amount of items that would be needed for a breakout house built of these... makes me wince.

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Old 12-20-2011, 05:57 PM   #10
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I'm fairly cranky about it too. I mean. YAY for making them. but boo for them being station cash *grumble*.

I really hope they decide to make crafter versions in the future!

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:02 PM   #11
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This is taking a wrong turn...

I agree with all above posts and with the fact that core-building items should be available through carpenters, grotto, city festival, whatever, but definitely not SC. I am also an occasional SC buyer and while I do accept to buy some furniture through SC, I do not agree to buy something like building blocks with SC. What's next? New tiles? Dividers?

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:02 PM   #12
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I buy SC items all the time.  I admit I'm a prestige house junkie.  But these items really should have gone in as carpenter recipes.   Hello - tradeskill apprentice??

Considering that it takes multiples of any given item, the cost outweighs the OOOH! factor this time.

Having these on the market for SC is just wrong, IMHO.

OH! And don't forget... these being SC items means we CAN'T USE THEM IN GUILDHALLS!

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:04 PM   #13
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I'm very disappointed with this new "addition" to SC. To me it feels like a complete exploit of loyal players wallets. I don't have $$ to pay for SC as I am a starving student. So I rely heavily on plat conversion to pay for my needs. Before it was manageable, you know - set a goal, sell lots of stuff, buy SC cards with plat. Now I'm not sure I can afford any of this on top of F2P monthly sub. Isn't there something we can do as a community to vote this off Marketplace? 

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:06 PM   #14
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[email protected] Bayle wrote:

I'm very disappointed with this new "addition" to SC. To me it feels like a complete exploit of loyal players wallets. I don't have $$ to pay for SC as I am a starving student. So I rely heavily on plat conversion to pay for my needs. Before it was manageable, you know - set a goal, sell lots of stuff, buy SC cards with plat. Now I'm not sure I can afford any of this on top of F2P monthly sub. Isn't there something we can do as a community to vote this off Marketplace? 

Yes - we can boycott the items.

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:08 PM   #15
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I'm actually excited. To me, it's just a teaser to the next carpenter update.

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:14 PM   #16
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[email protected] wrote:

I'm actually excited. To me, it's just a teaser to the next carpenter update.

We can only hope...

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:17 PM   #17
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The thing is, there will always be people who either have a lot of extra cash to blow in the market, or just don't care because their desperation for these items is more important than buying food or paying rent. Facebook games are so new and could be temporary and they have proven this point. People will drop $20 or $50 on a decoration item in a facebook game. Think those people read the EULA where it says they don't own it and it can be modified at any time? SMILEY

I know this is the model for new games now but I wish EQ2 had been left out of microtransactions. I prefer to earn items, I don't want to have to think about if I want to splurge on a shiny pixel item, I'd rather not have to think it over if I like it and quest or craft it.

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Yes - we can boycott the items.

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Old 12-20-2011, 06:20 PM   #18
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The blocks are very nicely textured, and I am sure many will want multiple copies. I hope we do see this in the carp books soon!

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Old 12-20-2011, 07:06 PM   #19
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I am trying really hard to be optmistic about this and see it as them testing waters about the popularity of these items before spending more time with a ton of retextures of it (because we'll want it!)

However I do agree with everyone that this should have been put as a carpenter recipe first, or at worst being sold in the grottos, city festivals or even a live event. Only much later after those it should be put on SC with some unique texture.

This way is just backwards and will get a lot of people angry.

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Old 12-20-2011, 07:13 PM   #20
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I have to agree and i am a supporter of Station cash. These blocks and such would have been perfect for in game recipes for crafters .  But seeing as how they are on SC now they will likely never be switched away from it.  BUT ...  I would like to suggest a dropping of the prices on them 50sc a block or step is waaaay to much at most these things should be 10sc  each. 

This is one time i am rather unhappy at what is added to the market place.   I understand SOE is a company and money is needed to be made, but perhaps selling actual recipes for these items on the market place would have yielded you a better reception on the introduction.

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Old 12-20-2011, 07:32 PM   #21
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*IF* we see additional designs available ingame, either as a Carpenter recipie or even as a purchased item from the City Festivals and Grottos, then I'm perfectly fine with some designs being on the Marketplace. Heck, I'd even be fine with the RECIPIE being from the Marketplace so my Carpenter could spend a little SC and then proceed to make what he wants with it ingame.

Or give Carpenters the same recipies ingame as the Marketplace offerings, but make the SC ones not count against a home item count, while player-made blocks do -- that'd be a nice selling point for the Marketplace without resorting to nickel-and-diming players.

But if this is all intended to be a Marketplace-only offering, then I'll be quite annoyed.

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:16 PM   #22
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 I just wanted to add my thoughts to this forum as i have done so in the official post but i think they are really taking away carpenter recipes from carpenters by placing things in the marketplace. I feel like us carps are starting to lose out to SC in the way of craftable items. Its really a dissapointment and a slap in the face. I don't normally do other tradeskills in game because one of my main focuses in carpenter and by adding more and more wanted items into the market under the lovely housing tab they are essentially making carpenters more and more null and void if you get my meaning. I felt a bit stung by the fact that they didn't consult the player base/carpenter/decorator's out there in the game first about this release and got a bit more feedback. I mean i realize we have been waiting years for this stuff but to make it only station cash only is like a slap in the face. I hope that this situation rectify's itself and we start seeing a recipe book or something in game to give us the same oppertunity to make these items otherwise people who can't always afford station cash like myself will hardly ever see the benefit of these things.

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:31 PM   #23
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I think they should give us the building blocks that match our current sets as carpenters. If you want blocks to match existing SC sets they could do them as SC items....

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:56 PM   #24
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10 tiles in pack?  roflmao I  buy lots of SC stuff but this is an indicator that the person in charge doesn't actually decorate and might need some time spent in game instead of whipping up stuff to sell us.

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:59 PM   #25
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Iskandar wrote:

*IF* we see additional designs available ingame, either as a Carpenter recipie or even as a purchased item from the City Festivals and Grottos, then I'm perfectly fine with some designs being on the Marketplace. Heck, I'd even be fine with the RECIPIE being from the Marketplace so my Carpenter could spend a little SC and then proceed to make what he wants with it ingame.

Or give Carpenters the same recipies ingame as the Marketplace offerings, but make the SC ones not count against a home item count, while player-made blocks do -- that'd be a nice selling point for the Marketplace without resorting to nickel-and-diming players.

But if this is all intended to be a Marketplace-only offering, then I'll be quite annoyed.

I agree, putting the recipes on SC would be a great way for us to get them in game, I dont love the idea of recipes on SC.....but I am so irate with the building blocks on there right now I could stab someone! Also making SC items not take a slot and player made take a slot is a great idea!

How many times people have asked for these, endlessly really, and yay there they are.....but you need to use SC for them. I dont care if you give trip SC every day for the next year, this was a crap move, actually it was a steaming pile of unhideable flying mount crap imo. They should be embarassed and ashamed that this is how they decided to impliment something players have begged for, for ages. Color me disgusted SOE team.  

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I put quite a lot of money into SC and don't mind most things...but for me, this decision is disgraceful.

It makes my desire for the game start to drift away slowly. And if it keeps going, it just might be gone.

I put so much work into grinding faction and all sorts of things to get my carpenter to make everything that

can be made, as have many here, and yet still have dropped enormous amounts of money into SC items as well.

And this is the thanks I get for my business?  ICK! Just disgraceful.  SMILEY

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Old 12-20-2011, 10:29 PM   #27
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not a fan of the building blocks being SC especially when you get so few of them. i can't really build anything with what you get, and i know i can't afford to buy the 100 i'd need. i'm actually feeling a bit disillusioned lately. this last expansion pack really got me. i've barely played this month. i think everquest2 might be finally heading in a direction that i can't follow.

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Old 12-20-2011, 10:40 PM   #28
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It's ridiculous. I agree with Cloudrat here, the person who thought this up clearly doesn't decorate. I will not be buying any of the items (especially since the stone building blocks look ridiculously similar to items we can already make). All I can hope is that these will NOT be popular and they'll learn their lesson. Hope being a very iffy thing here. 

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While I am glad that you are listening to what we want, putting these items on SC was a really bad move. 

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Old 12-20-2011, 10:47 PM   #30
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More than anything in this game, I love to decorate.  Ever since I found out about decorating it has been one of the things that keeps me in game.  However, with the appearance of these items in SC...  For the first time since I started played EQ2 years ago...  I actually debated stopping decorating.  This to me felt like a real slap in the face.  Now if we do get items like these as craftable or in-game obtainable maybe that will change how I feel, but right now...  I don't even want to walk into a house period.

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