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Old 09-06-2012, 11:39 PM   #1
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I would really like to ask for a statement from a developer on this issue, because with the next expansion the level cap rises to 95 and with it there will be all new 95 Raid Gear.  This new gear will make all of the still brand new Level 92 PVP gear that thousands of us are grinding tokens to obtain utterly obsolete in two months.

So, please Mr. or Ms. Developer "will you be creating all new LEVEL 95 PVP gear that will go live the SAME DAY the new expansion comes out or will we have to wait months, or a year for a new update?" 

If you don't do that you will be negating every minute all of us have spent grinding out the tokens for the new 92 PVP Gear.

I'd like to be clear:  I love the return of the Avatars and what it could mean for open world contested PVP on Nagafen, but my biggest problem is the time invested in obtaining this new 92 gear only to find out it will be worthless in two months.

If you want raid gear to be the ultimate in PVP gear, fine, but then why all the effort to create level 92 gear and entice us to grind for it by saying it will be useful in PVE, when there is an immediate increase in level and gear coming up.

Please, I know it is futile to ask, but a statement from a developer should be made here.

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Old 09-07-2012, 04:37 AM   #2
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Nemas Ravenor wrote:

I would really like to ask for a statement from a developer on this issue, because with the next expansion the level cap rises to 95 and with it there will be all new 95 Raid Gear.  This new gear will make all of the still brand new Level 92 PVP gear that thousands of us are grinding tokens to obtain utterly obsolete in two months.

So, please Mr. or Ms. Developer "will you be creating all new LEVEL 95 PVP gear that will go live the SAME DAY the new expansion comes out or will we have to wait months, or a year for a new update?" 

If you don't do that you will be negating every minute all of us have spent grinding out the tokens for the new 92 PVP Gear.

I'd like to be clear:  I love the return of the Avatars and what it could mean for open world contested PVP on Nagafen, but my biggest problem is the time invested in obtaining this new 92 gear only to find out it will be worthless in two months.

If you want raid gear to be the ultimate in PVP gear, fine, but then why all the effort to create level 92 gear and entice us to grind for it by saying it will be useful in PVE, when there is an immediate increase in level and gear coming up.

Please, I know it is futile to ask, but a statement from a developer should be made here.

Thanks.

TBH since our pvp dev is doing double duty of tradeskill/pvp dev I highly doubt we will get any new lvl 95 pvp gear...maybe down the road months after live but at live dont see it.

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Old 09-07-2012, 08:13 AM   #3
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TBH since our pvp dev is doing double duty of tradeskill/pvp dev I highly doubt we will get any new lvl 95 pvp gear...maybe down the road months after live but at live dont see it.

I'll laugh if not only the dev creates TS recipies but puts your 'new pvp armor' as armorer recipies off the bat.

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Old 09-07-2012, 10:14 AM   #4
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I fully believe they will just upgrade the stats on the pvp gear during an update , without having to create new gear . A simple solution .

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Old 09-07-2012, 02:47 PM   #5
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I wish my glass what half full but if history has anything to teach us is that the pvp gear we just recieved will be outdted and there will not be a replacement for over a year that is comparable so we will once again have to raid and get pve gear to mix and match simply to compete in pvp as the lvl 95 raid and drop gear will be better than the pvp jewelry and most likely better than the armor. Alredy it is a toss up between the proc gear and leathiality/toughness. when you compare lvl 92 gear to lvl 95 there will be a difference or why have lvl 95 gear drops at all?

The logic behind it is that they just put a lot of man hours into giving us new pvp gear that works for a small portion of the EQ2 population.

I hope I am wrong.

On a side note: raiders did get the shaft when the allowed heirloom havoc marks as it now takes very little effort to get full pvp gear for a lvl 92 toon using a lvl 30 ranger which is why I suspect the lvl 95 raid gear will be much better than the pvp gear.  Raiders are the bread and butter of EQ2 and the base that keeps other players. Of course they could make lvl 30 raiding and allow them to trade the lvl 92 gear that drops to their altsSMILEY just saying.

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Old 09-07-2012, 03:40 PM   #6
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Shredderr wrote:

I fully believe they will just upgrade the stats on the pvp gear during an update , without having to create new gear . A simple solution .

This isn't terrible and I won't complain about this if it is put out live same day as the expansion.  REALLY WOULD LIKE A DEVELOPER TO COMMENT PLEASE.

What are your plans for PVP Gear when the level cap goes up to 95?  Thousands of players need to know if they should bother farming tokens anymore to buy 95 gear, or should they go back to working on their PVE toons, and/or find a raid guild on Nagafen to try and kill Avatars?

Please tells us ahead of time what your plans are... as in N.O.W. 

thx  SMILEY

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Old 09-09-2012, 09:13 PM   #7
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Bump until a developer comments.

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Old 09-09-2012, 11:23 PM   #8
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Perhaps they will make a tier 4 (level 95) set of gear. Same concept as right now, you must have the Tier 3 (level 92) piece before you can purchase the Tier 4 upgrade. 

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Old 09-10-2012, 03:17 AM   #9
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That is most likely what will happen. ^

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Old 09-11-2012, 12:00 AM   #10
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razu wrote:

Perhaps they will make a tier 4 (level 95) set of gear. Same concept as right now, you must have the Tier 3 (level 92) piece before you can purchase the Tier 4 upgrade. 

If this is most likely what will happen then it would be thoughtful for a developer to confirm this is their plan or not.  And tell us if this, or anything, will go live same day as the expansion.

DEVELOPERS:  ARE YOU  GOING TO MAKE US WAIT 9 MONTHS INTO LEVEL 95 BEFORE YOU UPGRADE PVP GEAR, OR WILL ALL NEW GEAR COME OUT SAME DAY AS EXPANSION?

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:58 AM   #11
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I like your optimism guys but camon that patch that we recently got was filling 2 yeahr gap on PvP/PvE gear so I expect this post will live rather long SMILEY.

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Old 09-17-2012, 01:44 AM   #12
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DEVELOPER RESPONSE PLEASE....

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Old 09-18-2012, 06:07 PM   #13
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Also concerned if there will be t4 pvp gear or at least increase the stats on the t3 gear to make certain that pvp gear is better than pve gear. Looking for SOE response

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:37 PM   #14
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Thank very much for bringing this up as i was also NOT pleased with how soe lets bg players collect DUST yet again . yes after 95 has been out a while our hard earned max 92 bg gear will be 2nd rate junk . so whats the plan this time soe give us new gear then make it crap a few months later . then make us collect dust again for 6 months like before . not pleased with your bg work only 3 zones and one i totaly hate Klack where you get no heals it's just a waste of time . i was hoping bg would be a good way to gear my alt's but once again you make me doubt if it's worth my trouble for more than one toon . GIVE  us 95 bg gear or upgrade the T3 - 92 after 95 comes DO Something  SOE  not nothing like before .  

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Old 09-23-2012, 09:19 AM   #15
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Please do not act like we do not deserve an answer. 

What is it going to be and when?

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Old 09-26-2012, 01:02 AM   #16
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Please do not act like we do not deserve an answer. 

What is it going to be and when?

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Old 10-01-2012, 04:17 PM   #17
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Nemas Ravenor wrote:

I would really like to ask for a statement from a developer on this issue, because with the next expansion the level cap rises to 95 and with it there will be all new 95 Raid Gear.  This new gear will make all of the still brand new Level 92 PVP gear that thousands of us are grinding tokens to obtain utterly obsolete in two months.

So, please Mr. or Ms. Developer "will you be creating all new LEVEL 95 PVP gear that will go live the SAME DAY the new expansion comes out or will we have to wait months, or a year for a new update?" 

If you don't do that you will be negating every minute all of us have spent grinding out the tokens for the new 92 PVP Gear.

I'd like to be clear:  I love the return of the Avatars and what it could mean for open world contested PVP on Nagafen, but my biggest problem is the time invested in obtaining this new 92 gear only to find out it will be worthless in two months.

If you want raid gear to be the ultimate in PVP gear, fine, but then why all the effort to create level 92 gear and entice us to grind for it by saying it will be useful in PVE, when there is an immediate increase in level and gear coming up.

Thanks.

Still anxiously waiting for a response.

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Old 10-05-2012, 12:52 AM   #18
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+1 for new T4 gear once we hit 95.

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Old 10-06-2012, 08:17 PM   #19
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Shredderr wrote:

I fully believe they will just upgrade the stats on the pvp gear during an update , without having to create new gear . A simple solution .

How would that make 92 gear on par with level 95 gear?

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Old 10-07-2012, 09:52 AM   #20
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SOE Live... wait in the shadows a few more days. 

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Old 10-08-2012, 05:03 AM   #21
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[email protected] wrote:

SOE Live... wait in the shadows a few more days. 

My God- that was the more helpful than anything the devs could offer.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:03 PM   #22
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Do you really think the devs care?

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Old 10-09-2012, 10:41 AM   #23
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sveppir wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

SOE Live... wait in the shadows a few more days. 

My God- that was the more helpful than anything the devs could offer.

It's called confidentiality agreements and waiting for SOE Live announcements.  They could at the very least post to just wait till then... but they didn't. 

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:48 AM   #24
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Azekah1 wrote:

Do you really think the devs care?

For an actual change, yes they he does.  Look at today's patch... all PvP adjustments that were released with sleeper's tomb. 

If people really care as much as they say, get into beta and provide PvP feedback.  If you're a [email protected] and unable to provide constructive feedback, please don't bother.

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Old 10-17-2012, 01:54 AM   #25
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bump until uninterested Developers respond.

/lame.

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Old 10-17-2012, 01:56 PM   #26
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Azekah1 wrote:

Do you really think the devs care?

Do you really think there is more than one dev working on pvp, and even that one guy spends even 50% of his time on it?

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Old 10-17-2012, 02:47 PM   #27
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With the lack of foresight that the PVP developers have exhibited - both past and present - I would safely assume that the answer is no.

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Old 10-20-2012, 02:11 AM   #28
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[email protected] wrote:

SOE Live... wait in the shadows a few more days. 

PvP * New level 95 gear

Now get into beta/test to help them figure out the best way to fund/upgrade to this new gear.

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Old 10-24-2012, 10:42 AM   #29
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Same appearance and same Havoc token cost as current T1, T2 and T3 PvP gear.  New T1, T2 and T3 sets have no requirements of previous PvP gear.  In summary, new PvP gear you earned and purchased since July 24th (3 months ago to the day) is trivial.  So nevermind all that token grinding, gear is being reset with this expansion and you need to do it all again.  Silly me for spending my tokens... but I'm not really sure how else they could have done this without turning away new players.... it would be alot easier of a pill to swallow if this current gear wasn't just 3 months old and a grind to get.

My main question is if the PvP soft caps are being increased.  If they are not.. then it's just more reforged heath and toughness/lethality.  Trying to figure out how to get this new gear on beta to see if the soft caps were raised.  If anyone has a ton of tokens and wants to grind to 95 on beta... please do and tell me this.

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Old 10-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #30
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The cost of t2 and t3 pvp gear is being reduced to make way for t4. So I wasted about 80k tokens. Low blow.
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