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Old 07-05-2012, 05:10 PM   #91
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In for T7 locked server. Would appreciate Dev response too please.

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Old 07-06-2012, 11:58 AM   #92
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I would be on that like black on a panther

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Old 07-06-2012, 12:05 PM   #93
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I'll put my 2c here, and I know a lot of people would probably disagree, but I think one of the things that would help pvp is resetting the server once a year. I know, crazy right? But what makes pvp the most fun? People running all over the place, questing, running dungeons, leveling, hunting opposing players...this helps promote what I shall call "organic pvp". None of this BG's or Warfields. Organic pvp is the best kind and sadly, becomes less and less as the server ages, people get stuck in thier guild halls and instances oogling their sweet gear and titles.

I saw the pontential in this when I tried out the Freeport f2p server and there where sooo many people running all over the place in all the zones. I thought, if this was a pvp server this would be like Nagafen back in the old days.

Oh well, I know this is less likely then getting a T7 server, but thought I'd share : )

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Old 07-08-2012, 07:58 AM   #94
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Yes please, T7 pvp server (latest EoF version)

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Old 07-13-2012, 10:15 PM   #95
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How has this not happened yet?  Seriously, what are the huge costs associated with this?

Its not the hardware, they've merged tons of servers since the old days.  Somebody go pull venekor out of a closet and boot that **** up.

We dont need devs with their "updates" and "content".  Just turn this thing on, load an old backup from EOF, and let people play. 

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Old 09-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #96
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So I do not understand how there has not been a dev answer yet? Would it be so hard to make this happen? Nagafen is dead and you still claim there is a big pvp base....................WRONG. Make this server happen or you will continue to lose subs.

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Old 09-07-2012, 12:43 PM   #97
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Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.

T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.

Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.

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Old 09-07-2012, 05:17 PM   #98
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crazyeyes321 wrote:

Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.

T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.

Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.

How is that?  Battlegrounds didn't exist back then.

Raid pvp existed but was uncommon compared to pocket small groups pvp.

Honestly I would love a roll back to this.  By far the greatest pvp this game ever had was this tier.  You could start pvping in just MC gear right from the get go.  

This literally was the peak of excellence for pvp players in this game and I would be all over it.  I have read some comments about fixing pvp as it is now but are not all of these crazy gear imbalances we have now due to supposed fixes?

T7 FTW

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Old 09-07-2012, 07:41 PM   #99
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Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.

T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.

Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.

How is that?  Battlegrounds didn't exist back then.

Raid pvp existed but was uncommon compared to pocket small groups pvp.

Honestly I would love a roll back to this.  By far the greatest pvp this game ever had was this tier.  You could start pvping in just MC gear right from the get go.  

This literally was the peak of excellence for pvp players in this game and I would be all over it.  I have read some comments about fixing pvp as it is now but are not all of these crazy gear imbalances we have now due to supposed fixes?

T7 FTW

Dont you think that if they made a server like this, it would simply divide the few people that still open world pvp?  Some people like open world and end game content.  Furthermore, you are still overlooking the apparent love that so called pvp'ers have for battlegrounds.  For any new pvp server to survive, you would have to prevent people from playing in BGs.  If you dont, you have Nagafen again, but with only a portion of the players since it is content limited.  You will also have 'pvp' server players just going to pve servers for bgs when they want without the hassle when they dont.

I do not disagree with you that DoF/EoF/RoK were the best years of pvp, but at this point in the game, it cant go back to that era and maintain healthy numbers.

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Old 09-11-2012, 10:06 AM   #100
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crazyeyes321 wrote:

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crazyeyes321 wrote:

Naggy isn't dead.  Naggy is just logged into the battlegrounds lobby.  And those that arent are either grossly outnumbered or cant find the few stragglers out questing.

T7 server wont fix anything, people will still be out in bgs.  People will still stick to one massive zerg side.

Accept that everquest pvp is doomed to remain a minigame diversion now, because any real effort for a decent everquest themed pvp or rvr is gonna be towards EQNext.  Hope they learn from past mistakes that they and others have made, but Im fearing it will be another bg system that all other games are adopting.

How is that?  Battlegrounds didn't exist back then.

Raid pvp existed but was uncommon compared to pocket small groups pvp.

Honestly I would love a roll back to this.  By far the greatest pvp this game ever had was this tier.  You could start pvping in just MC gear right from the get go.  

This literally was the peak of excellence for pvp players in this game and I would be all over it.  I have read some comments about fixing pvp as it is now but are not all of these crazy gear imbalances we have now due to supposed fixes?

T7 FTW

Dont you think that if they made a server like this, it would simply divide the few people that still open world pvp?  Some people like open world and end game content.  Furthermore, you are still overlooking the apparent love that so called pvp'ers have for battlegrounds.  For any new pvp server to survive, you would have to prevent people from playing in BGs.  If you dont, you have Nagafen again, but with only a portion of the players since it is content limited.  You will also have 'pvp' server players just going to pve servers for bgs when they want without the hassle when they dont.

I do not disagree with you that DoF/EoF/RoK were the best years of pvp, but at this point in the game, it cant go back to that era and maintain healthy numbers.

It could divide the current player base a bit on nagafen yes but honestly with just the old returners I bet it would offset any division and we would gain in pvp targets.  Honestly most pvpers don't love bg's they just do them because it is the fastest way to get gear.  If everyone was in the open world then they would pvp there since that is the fastest way to get gear.  Honestly open world pvp can be hard to find and then during wf lol everyone is piled into one faction to blow up npc's the fastest so they get the winner's amount of tokens.  I think this is a great idea honestly.

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Old 09-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #101
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I don't believe making a new server will bring back that many of the pvp players from ages ago.  New games have come out that have captured some of their attention, some have grown tired of games in general, others in the company.  Also realize that the 'golden era' was a few years back, so there is going to be loss from the players that were then in college and now have commitments outside of the game.

I look at this much like I did eq1, pvp was great in the get go, but as expansions and new skills/aa came about and characters left for other games, its value decreased as well.  I wouldnt want to stop them making something that would definately increase pvp playability, but I am of mind that at this point, EQNext is our best hope. . . . if they dont turn it into a BG only game from the start.

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Old 09-11-2012, 08:53 PM   #102
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crazyeyes321 wrote:

I don't believe making a new server will bring back that many of the pvp players from ages ago.  New games have come out that have captured some of their attention, some have grown tired of games in general, others in the company.  Also realize that the 'golden era' was a few years back, so there is going to be loss from the players that were then in college and now have commitments outside of the game.

I look at this much like I did eq1, pvp was great in the get go, but as expansions and new skills/aa came about and characters left for other games, its value decreased as well.  I wouldnt want to stop them making something that would definately increase pvp playability, but I am of mind that at this point, EQNext is our best hope. . . . if they dont turn it into a BG only game from the start.

Unless they follow the path of every other game that has recently come out with the one button dumbed down everything macroed pvp...

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Old 09-11-2012, 09:32 PM   #103
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crazyeyes321 wrote:

I don't believe making a new server will bring back that many of the pvp players from ages ago.  New games have come out that have captured some of their attention, some have grown tired of games in general, others in the company.  Also realize that the 'golden era' was a few years back, so there is going to be loss from the players that were then in college and now have commitments outside of the game.

I look at this much like I did eq1, pvp was great in the get go, but as expansions and new skills/aa came about and characters left for other games, its value decreased as well.  I wouldnt want to stop them making something that would definately increase pvp playability, but I am of mind that at this point, EQNext is our best hope. . . . if they dont turn it into a BG only game from the start.

Unless they follow the path of every other game that has recently come out with the one button dumbed down everything macroed pvp...

laughing my posterior off my dear peer

i agree that MMO vision in the industry, as a whole, is likely doomed.

1-2 hotbars of spells/CAs is so durn annoyingly simplistic.

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Old 10-19-2012, 10:25 AM   #104
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Probably won't happen, but I'd be in.

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Old 10-23-2012, 03:55 PM   #105
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What a shock that there has not been a dev response yet. Go ahead and circus your efforts on fluff items like SOE mote and market place items. Yet when a great idea is put in front of you it gets ignored.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:06 AM   #106
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Arckon wrote:

What a shock that there has not been a dev response yet. Go ahead and circus your efforts on fluff items like SOE mote and market place items. Yet when a great idea is put in front of you it gets ignored.

its only a 3 year old thread.. give them a chance lulz

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