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Old 10-26-2017, 08:22 AM   #1
Agarth

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Caith told us that :
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Here's an exemple of the scaling of a taunt on the on beta : ( damage portion scale correctly but not the threat )
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I have noted below the 101+ abilites with a +/- threat component currently affected by this scaling problem :

Berserker :
Agressive Defense IX - 101
Insolence V - 102
Mock X - 102
Enrage IX - 106
Raging Blow X - 107

Bruiser :
Slurred Insult X - 102
Abuse IX - 106
Manhandle VIII - 106
Divie and Conquer IV - 110

Guardian :
Hold the Line IX - 101
Taunting Assault VI - 101
Provoke X - 102
Shout IX - 106
Taunting Blow X - 107

Monk :
Silent Threat X - 102
Challenge IX - 106
Dragon Rage VIII - 110
Peel IV - 110

Paladin :
Clarion X - 102
Righteousness IX - 106
Heroic Dash IX - 109

Shadowknight :
Insidious Whisper X - 102
Blasphemy IX - 106
Innoruuk's Caress X - 107
Grave Sacrament VIII - 108
Hateful Slam IX - 109

All Scouts :
Evade IX - 103

Brigand :
Befuddle VIII - 102
Cuss VIII - 107

Predators :
Stalk IX - 110

Swashbuckler :
Avoid Blame VIII - 102
Tease VIII - 107
Sleight of Hand IV - 110

Channeler :
Shield of Blackwood X - 103

Defiler :
Terror Chant IX - 109

Fury :
Brambles IX - 109

Inquisitor :
Tormenting Conversion VI - 105
Disorientation IX - 109

Mystic :
Spirits IX - 109

Templar :
Harmony IX - 109

Warden :
Sandstorm VI - 103
Willow Wisp IX - 109

Conjuror :
Defensive Haven IX - 110

Illusionist :
Synergism VII - 105

Necromancer :
Grisly Protection IX - 110

Warlock :
Nullify IX - 107

Wizard :
Cease IX - 107
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Old 10-27-2017, 01:38 PM   #2
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don't forget AAs

like crusader's cavalier's shout (haven't checked but a crusader should check)

brawlers mantis leap or hostility. They don't scale at all with level

don't know for other classes and will check on threat added to abilities through AA tonight
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Old 10-29-2017, 11:49 PM   #3
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Though I see the merit in your post, I believe when Caith posted that it was in regards to damage not taunt value. Also @Earar I'm pretty certain AA are separate from spells as far this increase goes.

As far as ive seen damage is the best threat atm, unless they plan on changing it. It would be nice to use our taunts for more than just damage gerneration.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:09 AM   #4
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well as I said, on my bruiser in beta I saw that my AA that proc threat didn't get their threat increase compared to all my damage spells and procs
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:17 AM   #5
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Yeah that's what I was saying about AA not being class spells. And the changes thus far are for class profession spells. The only time an aa gets better from a level jump is if: 1. the AA gets specifically upgraded. 2. the AA effects a class profession spell, thus a more powerful spell the effect goes up. in most cases slightly.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:01 AM   #6
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no. Usually AA would also scale with level and stats.

For exemple the priest CA replacement AAs ... They always need to stay relevant compared to their spells counterparts.

and what change are you talking about ?

but check your AA threat abilities and procs .. they don't scale anymore either.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:09 PM   #7
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Yes and that is CA replacement or damage base. Threat is not damage.

My AA threat anything has not scaled in a very long time. The only "scaling" that has happened is player pot increase. Threat though nice has been rather irrelevant comparatively to damage as of late. Taunts and taunt abilities out side of a few have been rather useless for a couple xpacs now (Sadly). The last real bump for threat abilities all around was in ToV when they adjusted threat on abilities and AA. The threat adjustment that effected some abilities from some tanks was beginningish of KA when they specifically adjusted (for guards) Reinforcement duration, not the threat amount, and added an AA group threat xfer alternative to our single target, again not threat itself. I forget what spells were adjusted on other tanks, though it was roughly the same kind of changes. So overall yeah last real adjustment directly to threat of any kind was ToV.
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