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Old 10-10-2007, 01:21 PM   #1
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Hello,

My wife recently started an Arasai warlock and I want a good class to duo with her.  I have never played a warlock so I am unsure what woudl be the best fit.  I am willing to try any class.  Thanks for your opinion in advance.

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Old 10-10-2007, 03:53 PM   #2
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sk for tanking and will benefit both of you with your debuffs defiler debuffs and wards wizard will help u burn things uber quick, as would another lockfury/warden for healing and slightly faster killing...just about any class goes well with us i have found hehe SMILEY scouts dont quite work as well hoiwever, there debuffs may rock but they will have to be tanking thus losing alot of damage
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:14 PM   #3
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In playing my warlock in small groups/duoing I prefer a tank over a healer.  And I've sadly learned that through trial and error.  As long as I don't get beat on and interupted I can kill a ton of mobs fast.  Healers just can't keep up with poor little paper tank me.  I usually duo with a guardian, but I bet a pally would would be nice since they can heal (and more importantly rez!) as well.
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:38 AM   #4
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Brigand works pretty well. They can keep some aggro, and take a hit well. And their stuns and yours work well together to allow positional attacks with no retribution. High damage is king, so things die fast.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:41 AM   #5
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I personally prefer the paladin.

Amends + Pally prewarding = early and chain nuking OK

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Old 10-12-2007, 12:36 PM   #6
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yeah dirges or brigs may work too, but i've never duo'ed with any. was just giving input in the cases i've been in tank vs. healer
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:38 PM   #7
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I two box a coercer and a warlock and haven’t seen a duo that can do more than those two can.  The only heroic content I haven’t cleared is Unrest (the hag’s script doesn’t work well with two people), Nizara, and Mistmoore Castle.   

The reasons this combo works so well is:

1)       Mezz when needed

2)       Charm gives you a pet and with agro transfer from the coercer and the warlock can hope agro if you’re careful (usually just burn stuff down though).  Charm can also be used to do some good pulling as it doesn’t generate social agro.

3)       Lots and lots of stuns from the coercer.  Chain stunning / dazing, I can get a group effectively disabled for 20 seconds and a single target for close to 40 seconds. 

4)       5% roots from the coercer are wonderful.

5)       Two dps classes can really burn down the mobs. 

 

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Old 10-12-2007, 12:49 PM   #8
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I've tried Illusionist / Warlock, which is better than Coercer IMO.
  1. Synergism > Harmonious Link.  More damage.
  2. Stable pet while boxing > unreliable pet.  Plus the Illy pet can stun/daze/stifle/root.
  3. 4 Mezzes > 2 Mezzes
  4. TC on the Warlock, nuff said.
IMO there is no comparison, except for maybe memwipe.  Nothing a mez can't take care of though.Still, I find the Fury easier instead of the Warlock, can deal out decent damage and can heal/rez/melee as well, not to mention take more hits than a Warlock.  Plus Fury Root > Warlock Root.  I'd rather group mez than group root since the group root is so unreliable.agressiv
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:02 PM   #9
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:16 PM   #10
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I’ve debated betraying from coercer back to illusionist for some of these reasons, but have opted not to for two main reasons.  First, charm can be used to pull mobs out of a crowded room without social agro.  Second, dazes are better than stifles and coercers end up slightly better off here when dealing with groups.

Regardless, either would make a great duo and I will be the first to admit I wish I had time compression full time!

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Old 10-12-2007, 03:24 PM   #11
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MugnMobs wrote:

First, charm can be used to pull mobs out of a crowded room without social agro.  

The Warlock can pull with Concussion for the same effect, fyi, unless they've nerfed that.agressiv
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:14 PM   #12
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agressiv4 wrote:
I've tried Illusionist / Warlock, which is better than Coercer IMO.
  1. Synergism > Harmonious Link.  More damage.
  2. Stable pet while boxing > unreliable pet.  Plus the Illy pet can stun/daze/stifle/root.
  3. 4 Mezzes > 2 Mezzes
  4. TC on the Warlock, nuff said.
IMO there is no comparison, except for maybe memwipe.  Nothing a mez can't take care of though.Still, I find the Fury easier instead of the Warlock, can deal out decent damage and can heal/rez/melee as well, not to mention take more hits than a Warlock.  Plus Fury Root > Warlock Root.  I'd rather group mez than group root since the group root is so unreliable.agressiv

If you prefer an Ill/ fury over an Ill/warlock, maybe you should posting in their forums, not this one...

 As for duoing with any chanter, I hate it!  I have a buddy Illuisonist that 2 boxes with a wiz.  If i'm with him, I can't do ANYTHING! or he yells at me if I break a mez...  It's really boring just standing around while he kills stuff....  Or maybe it's just him I have the prob with lol.  If he let me contribute in some way it woudnl't be so bad, warned me when I could nuke and dot and when to stop.

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Old 10-12-2007, 05:42 PM   #13
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 As for duoing with any chanter, I hate it!  I have a buddy Illuisonist that 2 boxes with a wiz.  If i'm with him, I can't do ANYTHING! or he yells at me if I break a mez...  It's really boring just standing around while he kills stuff....  Or maybe it's just him I have the prob with lol.  If he let me contribute in some way it woudnl't be so bad, warned me when I could nuke and dot and when to stop.

Duoing with a chanter is totally different than 2-boxing.  When I'm two-boxing with my Illusionist, I know when I'm mezzing/stunning etc.  Much more effective than someone else doing it.If I'm playing with someone else or a group I'll mez adds which usually get broken anyways but I'm simply used to that.When I two-box, I have 100% control, and that takes skill.  I'm certainly not the best at it, but its what makes the game fun.agressiv
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:20 PM   #14
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I know the difference between duoing and 2 boxing. I was giving my experience of duoing with a chanter.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:25 AM   #15
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You need to talk your friend into laying off the mezzing.  If you're free to aoe, the group encounters should be dead before they can inflict much damage on you.  For single-target encounters just have him focus on roots & stuns.  The illus. root only has a 5% chance to break so is much more powerful than ours.  With both you and the illus. rooting you should even be able to use all your DoTs without too much fear of the mob breaking loose.  Personally, I love duoing with chanters.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:49 PM   #16
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agressiv4 wrote:
I've tried Illusionist / Warlock, which is better than Coercer IMO.
  1. Synergism > Harmonious Link.  More damage.
  2. Stable pet while boxing > unreliable pet.  Plus the Illy pet can stun/daze/stifle/root.
  3. 4 Mezzes > 2 Mezzes
  4. TC on the Warlock, nuff said.
IMO there is no comparison, except for maybe memwipe.  Nothing a mez can't take care of though.Still, I find the Fury easier instead of the Warlock, can deal out decent damage and can heal/rez/melee as well, not to mention take more hits than a Warlock.  Plus Fury Root > Warlock Root.  I'd rather group mez than group root since the group root is so unreliable.agressiv

If you prefer an Ill/ fury over an Ill/warlock, maybe you should posting in their forums, not this one...

 As for duoing with any chanter, I hate it!  I have a buddy Illuisonist that 2 boxes with a wiz.  If i'm with him, I can't do ANYTHING! or he yells at me if I break a mez...  It's really boring just standing around while he kills stuff....  Or maybe it's just him I have the prob with lol.  If he let me contribute in some way it woudnl't be so bad, warned me when I could nuke and dot and when to stop.

I 3 box coercer / Wiz / Lock (wiz and lock are only 43 atm coercer is 70). If your friend is using root N nuke, then just lazy target from his Wiz. Watch for the wiz to start casting and then you start as well. I would suggest staying away from DoTs sine even with 3 roots on a mob, DoTs can and will still get you killed. It is hard to say exactly how to work well together without knowing how he is setup. If he is boxing on one PC and alt tabbing, then it makes things a little harder to work well together. Talk to him about how he fights and work something out. When I have someone join me while I am 3boxing I make the rules fairly clear and let the person know the basics of my tactics and if a pull is slightly different I will let them know before doing it SMILEYThe thing Coercers do better than Illy is stun (with AA). Personally I use my root and stuns more than my mez.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:37 PM   #17
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I wasn't asking for advice, but thanks... The point was Chanters are fickle creatures SMILEY
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:48 PM   #18
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I wasn't asking for advice, but thanks... The point was Chanters are fickle creatures SMILEY<img src=" />
 SMILEYI guess I didnt come right out and say it in my post .. but to the OP's question I would say an enchanter would be great for a Duo with a Lock. The thing is that you end up playing as a solo enchanter but you have another really nice pet SMILEY
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:36 AM   #19
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I play with a paladin, which does seem to work pretty well.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:04 AM   #20
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Paladin, no contest.Not only are they superb tanks, but let me offer more reasons:1.) Heals.2.) Ward.3.) Amends.4.) Amends.5.) Their open AOE dps. pre 80, is arguably better than ours, and so therefore they can also hold aoe aggro very well. Extremely powerful duo. To me, this duo is like the Defiler/Shadowknight team.
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