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Old 07-19-2011, 08:08 PM   #1
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how are lvl 90's getting into the lvl 30's BG's?

was a full group and they were ripping everyone appart.

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Old 07-20-2011, 11:52 AM   #2
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It's a bug with match making had it happen twice today. 

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Old 07-20-2011, 01:16 PM   #3
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Those T4 toons must not have had any PvP gear.  This happened to me a few times yesterday, but from what I saw... 

1   Geared out T4 players are tougher to kill then most 90s.2.  The level 30 mobs hit like a truck and are tougher to kill then 90s.

Maybe they are scaling mentored a little better, but on the flip side.... I never did die. 

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Old 07-20-2011, 03:39 PM   #4
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still 90's in 30's BG's today.

and my toon is fully geared, and normally takes a real beating, but these 90's are 3 shotting me.

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Old 07-25-2011, 01:23 PM   #5
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still higher lvls in 30's BG's, been over a week , lastnight there were also lvl 70's in the 30's BG.  .

i guess SOE is sitting on their hands ?

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Old 07-25-2011, 03:47 PM   #6
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hah had a 21 the other day in the 80s BG, he held the relic like a pro.  Dont ask me how, he just did.

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Old 07-27-2011, 01:29 PM   #7
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Saw 90s in 30s BGs all last night, with one guy compaining about it in /shout. We would complete one, start another BG, and the same 90s were back along with our guy who just continued his complaints from where he left off in the last BG. While I agree that 90s do not belong in 30s BGs, I have to admit that I did get a nice boost in tokens last night.

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Old 07-27-2011, 01:39 PM   #8
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Most are from Nagafen, but I think I saw at least one from Vox. I'd bet it's an exploit but don't have any proof. When you see the same two players three matches in a row I can't believe it's just bad code.  After several reports and petitions the standard reply from SoE seems to be like everything else that's wrong with bg's. "We've looked into it and are turning it over to Devs and QA guys."

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Old 07-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #9
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thats the sad thing if i could choose i would stay in the 90 bg's the 30's are way to easy and sap the fun outta it all.... the whole thing was when we qued up single it would drop us in the 90's when we grouped it would always put us in the 30's and all you people petitioning lvl 90's killing you lvl 30's in a bg they didnt want to be in good job i know i got reported a lot for being in a lvl 30 bg but hey when your in a bg its just pvp dont like it there is a little green arrow that lets you leave the bg.... until soe fixes it gotta deal with it sorry SMILEY

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Old 07-27-2011, 05:03 PM   #10
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Might want to consider some punctuation and capitalization so we can understand what you're trying to say.

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Old 07-27-2011, 09:38 PM   #11
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lol if i wanted advice from the grammer patrol i would of asked for it

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Old 07-28-2011, 05:13 AM   #12
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lol if i wanted advice from the grammer patrol i would of asked for it

He does have a point though. Some people should spend a bit more time in school rather than playing a game.

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Old 07-30-2011, 03:41 PM   #13
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hah had a 21 the other day in the 80s BG, he held the relic like a pro.  Dont ask me how, he just did.

How did the 21 even Queue up... it doesn't let me on my characters before I am level 30.

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Old 08-06-2011, 10:06 AM   #14
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this has to be fixed if pre 90 bg is to have any hope of surviving.

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Old 08-06-2011, 05:22 PM   #15
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i am done with BGs - the bugs seem to increase and nothing is done to change them.it's not even funny if 90s are on your own team. where is the challenge here. just send me the tokens via mail that would be as fun. I couldn't vene scratch a mentored 90 necro in on bg and he killed me in 3 secs.i really think soe wants to pss all people majorly of to finally remove bgs from the game and have one thing less to care about:- tundra map still bugged with towers- nothing happened to the massive user feedback to tundra and it is still boring- faction for only one map- broken matchmaking with only 1 player on one team, rest in the other or even not grouped at all- smuggler's and ganak almost never pop again and if it pops it is like a 3vs3 - same with klak, playing a 3vs3 is no fun at all. those games where packed before tundra was releasedsoe seriously destroys bgs. it gets worse every day and those 90s are really the worst. while other companies fix bugs soe builds in more and more every day!!!

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Old 08-07-2011, 05:42 PM   #16
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the more i see the same 90s game after game in the 30s bg, the more i'm starting to feel that its not an accident that they ended up there

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Old 08-08-2011, 01:59 PM   #17
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There is definitly some kind of exploit going on. I like how they claim that they got put in by accident, but will never leave when they are called out on it. They know exactly what they are doing, especially the ones that go right to the re-spawn points and 1-2 shot everyone for the entire match. I just hope all those tokens the 90s are farming get removed for exploiting along with any equipment purchased with them.

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Old 08-09-2011, 08:10 AM   #18
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So...the rare chance I get a BG, it's either bugged and I'm unable to fight or my T4 is grouped/opposed to 90s.  You still can't pregroup and end up on the same side either.  I'm looking at patch notes in test and none of these issues are addressed.

Devs needs to respond to these ongoing issues.  Or just friggen remove BGs.  I can't even imagine being a new player and zoning into a BG -- that would be a quick clue that this game is dying, dead or managed by total idiots (or all the above).

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Old 08-09-2011, 08:06 PM   #19
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Before you all ASSUME we 90s are exploiting look at the facts... FIRST: I queue up for 90!! Frozen Tundra and it is their system that puts us into a 30s BG. I did nothing except maybe wait in the BG hub with my guildmates.

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Old 08-10-2011, 12:25 PM   #20
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Before you all ASSUME we 90s are exploiting look at the facts... FIRST: I queue up for 90!! Frozen Tundra and it is their system that puts us into a 30s BG. I did nothing except maybe wait in the BG hub with my guildmates.

does it put you in there game after game in a row? if not then don't ASSUME we're talking about you

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Old 08-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #21
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This is actually a really funny thread.  I want to tell you all that it's a secret trick we're all doing, so hahahahaha.

Then I want to tell you that T4 Battle Ground Tundra is god aweful.  T9 Tundra is a heck of alot easier and quicker to then that T4 mess.  Being someone that has been tossed into that mentored garbage I can tell you that even mentored, you can't kill any PvE for point and the geared T4 toons are tougher then most T9 to kill.  So why would I want to be in there.....  the answer is I don't.

It's the matchmaker.  Thought I saw Peak say he knew how to recreate it.  If so, please share so I never have to go in that tundra version again.

... but again, this is really a funny thread.

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Old 08-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #22
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This is actually a really funny thread.  I want to tell you all that it's a secret trick we're all doing, so hahahahaha.

Then I want to tell you that T4 Battle Ground Tundra is god aweful.  T9 Tundra is a heck of alot easier and quicker to then that T4 mess.  Being someone that has been tossed into that mentored garbage I can tell you that even mentored, you can't kill any PvE for point and the geared T4 toons are tougher then most T9 to kill.  So why would I want to be in there.....  the answer is I don't.

It's the matchmaker.  Thought I saw Peak say he knew how to recreate it.  If so, please share so I never have to go in that tundra version again.

... but again, this is really a funny thread.

the problem isn't geared t4 players take longer to kill(i don't see how thats the case unless mentored down 90s gear/additional spells is weaker then 30 gear, which i highly doubt).  its that geared t9 players simply do not die from geared t4 players even without a healer.

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Old 08-11-2011, 07:45 AM   #23
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Before you all ASSUME we 90s are exploiting look at the facts... FIRST: I queue up for 90!! Frozen Tundra and it is their system that puts us into a 30s BG. I did nothing except maybe wait in the BG hub with my guildmates.

does it put you in there game after game in a row? if not then don't ASSUME we're talking about you

If you group up, then yes it will put you in there game after game in a row pretty much.  Aside from the odd time it puts you in the right tier but on different teams.  Chances of you being grouped, and entering the 90 BG on the same team are very slim indeed.

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Silverzx wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

Before you all ASSUME we 90s are exploiting look at the facts... FIRST: I queue up for 90!! Frozen Tundra and it is their system that puts us into a 30s BG. I did nothing except maybe wait in the BG hub with my guildmates.

does it put you in there game after game in a row? if not then don't ASSUME we're talking about you

If you group up, then yes it will put you in there game after game in a row pretty much.  Aside from the odd time it puts you in the right tier but on different teams.  Chances of you being grouped, and entering the 90 BG on the same team are very slim indeed.

how many games straight have you been put in?

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Old 08-11-2011, 07:37 PM   #25
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Eh, don't remember for sure.  3 or 4 maybe on the bounce.  I don't bother accepting group invites in champion's respite anymore because its just boring to be stuck in the 30s, unless some 90s get dragged in on the other team.  Not like the 30s can kill you, and if there isn't a chance the other guy can kill you then whats the point?  Usually end up just running around killing the npc's, unless I get taunted off.

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It is terrible coding on SOE's part.  I qued up and ended up in like 15 level 30 BG's yesterday.  I did them all day i ended up with 30 bugged 90 raids where blue and red team were all in the same raid and couldn't attack each other.  15+ level 30 raids and gears and all such nonsense and SOE accused me of hacking due to their fail coding.  SERIOUSLY?  Own up to it at least SOE have some balls please.

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Old 08-12-2011, 05:17 AM   #27
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Eh, don't remember for sure.  3 or 4 maybe on the bounce.  I don't bother accepting group invites in champion's respite anymore because its just boring to be stuck in the 30s, unless some 90s get dragged in on the other team.  Not like the 30s can kill you, and if there isn't a chance the other guy can kill you then whats the point?  Usually end up just running around killing the npc's, unless I get taunted off.

weird...i know how to reproduce it, but theres no way you can get put in 3-4 games in a row without intending it.  I guess theres more than one way to do it, it seems. 

I did hear people getting banned for it (hopefully the exploiters and not the accidents).  Glad SOE is doing something about it, but i hope they are looking at the real problem which appears to be the coding.

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Eh, don't remember for sure.  3 or 4 maybe on the bounce.  I don't bother accepting group invites in champion's respite anymore because its just boring to be stuck in the 30s, unless some 90s get dragged in on the other team.  Not like the 30s can kill you, and if there isn't a chance the other guy can kill you then whats the point?  Usually end up just running around killing the npc's, unless I get taunted off.

weird...i know how to reproduce it, but theres no way you can get put in 3-4 games in a row without intending it.  I guess theres more than one way to do it, it seems. 

I did hear people getting banned for it (hopefully the exploiters and not the accidents).  Glad SOE is doing something about it, but i hope they are looking at the real problem which appears to be the coding.

Think you will find that you actually can.  And it wasn't just my groups either, i've seen it happen to a whole bunch of people - on one occasion for instance there was a separate purity group that got pulled in to two consecutive 30s the same time as my group.  Very frustrating really if you want to play with friends - you just can't.  At least not at 90.

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Then I want to tell you that T4 Battle Ground Tundra is god aweful.  T9 Tundra is a heck of alot easier and quicker to then that T4 mess.  Being someone that has been tossed into that mentored garbage I can tell you that even mentored, you can't kill any PvE for point and the geared T4 toons are tougher then most T9 to kill.  So why would I want to be in there.....  the answer is I don't.

I still don't believe it's a bug. Watch, it's nearly always Nagafen or Vox people doing it, and they are usually the ones crying it's a bug. To say T4 players are harder to kill than T9's is bogus because I've seen some of the best tanks in T4 one or two shot by rangers.

And if none of the T9's want to be in T4 why don't they quit out? And why do some of them keep being put in T4 time after time?

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And if none of the T9's want to be in T4 why don't they quit out? And why do some of them keep being put in T4 time after time?

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