ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group FAQ Feedback Thread

Amnerys · 02-21-2012, 03:32 PM

This thread is for feedback about the ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group FAQ.

Please see the ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group FAQ to learn more about the details of the SOE and ProsiebenSat.1 Games Group.

Gravy · 02-21-2012, 03:49 PM

Can players still access the U.S. servers? Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers? U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only.

Kind of a big change.

Previously a US player could make many characters over the limit by playing on the European servers. It seems like if you are a US player you won't have access to those servers any longer.

Raislisa · 02-21-2012, 03:51 PM

So we can't play with our US friends on Splitpaw anymore, where will they go, and will you be giving us from the uk (europe) the opportunity to move to the an US server with them and you pay for all characters and guilds to be transferred, as this is the worst kick in the teeth you ever given us.

feldon30 · 02-21-2012, 03:52 PM

Region Lockouts. Now how did we not see that coming? SMILEY

Arbreth · 02-21-2012, 03:52 PM

So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread:

Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only.

We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors.

Gladiolus · 02-21-2012, 03:52 PM

How does this affect new characters on old accounts? Or new accounts by existing customers? Will there be free server transfers?

Banedon_Toran · 02-21-2012, 03:55 PM

OK, putting aside my feeling of gut-wrenching betrayal...

Will European players on US Servers be given the ability to also transfer their guild, guild hall and progress so far to the ProSiebenSat servers?

Since i'm in the position of being leader of Elements guild on both Freeport and Antonia Bayle (level 60 and 54 respectively) I'd be looking at moving one of those guilds to the ProSiebenSat server and allowing the two halves of our membership to continue the Elements name.

Kenazeer · 02-21-2012, 03:57 PM

Arbreth wrote:

So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread:
Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only.
We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors.

I am sure SOE will say...

"But they can keep playing using their SOE accounts."

However:

As soon as they need support they will have to create a PSS1 account and WHAM no longer able to play

or

As soon as they want to use one of the empty slots on their account..WHAM... they will find that they can no longer do this.

or

They will say...."We said they can continue playing during the TRANSTION..." meaning that the EUROs on the US servers will probably find themselves forced to move at some point in the near future.

So SOE will make much of the fact that they are letting existing Euros continue playing on US servers using the SOE accoutn while completely downplaying the limitations and transient nature of that tidbit.

So long EUROS....nice to have known you.

Lempo · 02-21-2012, 03:59 PM

Arbreth wrote:

So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread:
Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only.
We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors.

You won't be losing any Euro players on AB according to this but there will be no new ones, and some will probably go away because they can not get friends and family to sign up and get an account on AB.

Like I said over nad over in the initial thread on this the fact that there was a total lack of response to the only real question in there which was about region locking could not possibly be a good thing only be a bad thing.

Buggabug · 02-21-2012, 04:02 PM

Unfortunately this will end my relationship with EQ2 and with SOE. The lack of security with the new company and the switch from SC to the Alaplaya Points is just too much. I'm beyond sad and yes, make fun if you like, shedding some tears over the loss of some pretty special toons.

Geothe · 02-21-2012, 04:03 PM

LOL.So SoE merges EQ2X and EQ2Live servers into one system because they "didn't want to divide the player base" and now they divide the player base in an even bigger manner.Wow, illogical reasoning at its finest at SoE, as usual!

BRAVO!

Avacii · 02-21-2012, 04:04 PM

There are countless non-european based players on Splitpaw who, for reasons of their own, do not wish to play at "peak time" in their own timezone and you've just ruined the game for them.When those players are denied their playing times with their Splitpaw guilds do you really think they will transfer to a server which is dead during the times they can play?And this is going to really hurt recruitment for european guilds when you remove the non-european player pool

Congratulations on signing the slow death warrant for several more guilds on Splitpaw.

Dungbeard · 02-21-2012, 04:07 PM

What about Australians who currently play on Splitpaw?

Annaliana · 02-21-2012, 04:08 PM

Can players still access the U.S. servers? Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts.

I really hope this is true, after 6 years on the US servers, if I could no longer play with the good friends I have made on AB, I'm gone.

Lempo · 02-21-2012, 04:08 PM

Dungbeard wrote:

What about Australians who currently play on Splitpaw?

The SOE/PSS digital wall does not discriminate.

Ariellia · 02-21-2012, 04:10 PM

As I'm a US player on AB, this doesn't directly affect me, however, one of the things I loved about playing EQ2 was the opportunity to meet and interact with people with all over the world. AB has a lot of international players, and our guild has members from several different countries, including ones in Europe. We'd have fascinating conversations about our respective countries (for example, when the riots in England were ongoing, it was enlightening to hear first-hand accounts of what was going on), and if I ever make it over to where they live, they are folks I'd love to visit.

It makes me kind of sad that SOE is moving towards completely segregating international players. There will be no new players from Europe on AB, and from what I'm reading here, it's likely no European players will be allowed on US servers for EQ3. It's sad since it diminishes the experience of US players like me as well

fatherjules · 02-21-2012, 04:11 PM

all I can say is simply, THIS SUCKS, i have friends, guild mates and raiding colleagues who will be region barred simply because they are based in the US.. for pity sake, this is the World Wide Web... not a euro intranet!

Magpie1 · 02-21-2012, 04:12 PM

When Everquest and Everquest II were launched one of their biggest selling points was the fact that they broke down barriers between cultures and allowed us (players) to meet new friends across the world. Indeed it was one of the fundamentally great things about an MMRPG. I spent my early days on a US server due to work commitments in Canada and it was great to be able to keep in touch with my friends at home, via the game, and make new friends in the US.

It is a sad, sad day when you deliberately choose to rebuild those barriers and isolate yourselves again. I will dearly miss those friends whom will soon have to leave us. Shame on you SOE, of all the things you have done this one is by far the one that may stick in the gullet just a bit too much. The impact of this decision, I suspect, will be more profound that you realise.

Gladiolus · 02-21-2012, 04:15 PM

I live in Europe and have a station account with characters on Freeport and Splitpaw, as well as in Vanguard. What will I have left when this is finished? I'm not going to keep paying SOE as well as paying ProSieben.

Wurm · 02-21-2012, 04:17 PM

Slimebag move SOE.

Thanks for remembering all the US Service Members stationed in Europe who like(d) to play your games.

Onorem · 02-21-2012, 04:17 PM

ProSieben is best known for its TV channels. Does it have the internal teams with the skill-set to support MMO games? ProSiebenSat.1 Games employs highly skilled and passionate MMO players. These skills, combined with the broadcasting and entertainment experience of the ProSiebenSat.1 Group, will be the key to attracting new audiences into SOE games.

They have highly skilled and passionate players. Is that what it takes to support an MMO? Broadcasting/entertainment/attracting new players has nothing to do with the question that you wrote for yourself to answer for yourself.

Will there be any changes applied to the new Free-to-Play concept or will the games continue to stay Free-to-Play? At SOE, we view free-to-play as a big part of our future and we strive to follow a business model philosophy of Free to Play. Your Way, meaning that the decision is in the players’ hands so they can play the games on their terms. Giving players choices is the theme of how we’re moving forward as a company.

Is that a yes or a no? Clearly the cash shop isn't going away, but the canned response doesn't actually answer the question.

thewarriorpoet · 02-21-2012, 04:21 PM

[email protected] wrote:

When Everquest and Everquest II were launched one of their biggest selling points was the fact that they broke down barriers between cultures and allowed us (players) to meet new friends across the world. Indeed it was one of the fundamentally great things about an MMRPG. I spent my early days on a US server due to work commitments in Canada and it was great to be able to keep in touch with my friends at home, via the game, and make new friends in the US.
It is a sad, sad day when you deliberately choose to rebuild those barriers and isolate yourselves again. I will dearly miss those friends whom will soon have to leave us. Shame on you SOE, of all the things you have done this one is by far the one that may stick in the gullet just a bit too much. The impact of this decision, I suspect, will be more profound that you realise.

Exactly!

We were fed some line about how going FTP on all servers was in the best interest of everyone because it pulled down the walls seperating the players. Now, it isn't that I disagree (I actually agree with that), but how can you realize that and then do this?!?! what the heck SOE, get yoru stuff together and educate the execs making the aweful decisions.

Finora · 02-21-2012, 04:22 PM

feldon30 wrote:

Region Lockouts. Now how did we not see that coming?

I saw it coming soon as they announced the ProSieben thing to begin with. I was hoping it wouldn't be but I really feared it would.

I find it awful. One of the best things over the years with SOE games was that you could play with people from all over the world.

I'm very disappointed that it's come to this.

Wurm · 02-21-2012, 04:23 PM

Onorem wrote:

ProSieben is best known for its TV channels. Does it have the internal teams with the skill-set to support MMO games? ProSiebenSat.1 Games employs highly skilled and passionate MMO players. These skills, combined with the broadcasting and entertainment experience of the ProSiebenSat.1 Group, will be the key to attracting new audiences into SOE games.
They have highly skilled and passionate players. Is that what it takes to support an MMO? Broadcasting/entertainment/attracting new players has nothing to do with the question that you wrote for yourself to answer for yourself.

I play one of Pro7's "FTP" Korean MMO games on and off when I'm bored and their support is horrid.

This was a serious mistake on SOE's part, they are going to lose a lot of players over this for no good reason at all.

Concordant · 02-21-2012, 04:24 PM

Arbreth wrote:

So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread:
Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only.
We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors.

+1

This game unites people across the world.

That should stay the way it is. SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 loose if they make restrictions like this.

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jabberwocke · 02-21-2012, 04:25 PM

Amnerys, can we please get some answers?

My girlfriend lives in the US, I'm in the UK, this means that she cannot come play on splitpaw?

Simple question, please can I have a simple answer

Also if you want feedback, I think this is just crazy, but do you care SOE?

soulsercher · 02-21-2012, 04:26 PM

so, when's the funeral exactly? The region lock will now most likely keep many people from ever even trying this game. Good job.

Onorem · 02-21-2012, 04:28 PM

jabberwocke wrote:

Amnerys, can we please get some answers?
My girlfriend lives in the US, I'm in the UK, this means that she cannot come play on splitpaw?
Simple question, please can I have a simple answer,

From the FAQ, it's a simple no...but I'm rooting for you.

Hope you played a character on a US server at some point. Best of luck to you. Hope you don't have to find a new game to continue to play with each other.

MurFalad · 02-21-2012, 04:30 PM

This change will kill off our raiding alliance as we have US and international players who join in, and longterm it will also kill off Splitpaw since quite a few US players like the freedom to be able to play somewhere else either to get better hours or a different userbase, I forsee Splitpaw being a backwater since anyone created there is cutoff from the rest of the player base.

This also means battlegrounds are gone, and any other cross server mechanics will no longer benefit the european servers, we won't even be able to chat.

This game has been running for 7 years without these restrictions, to change all this now is going to be very very bad for EQ2.

02-21-2012, 03:51 PM	#3
Raislisa Server: Runnyeye Guild: Taladega Knights Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 31	So we can't play with our US friends on Splitpaw anymore, where will they go, and will you be giving us from the uk (europe) the opportunity to move to the an US server with them and you pay for all characters and guilds to be transferred, as this is the worst kick in the teeth you ever given us. __________________

02-21-2012, 03:52 PM	#4
feldon30 Fansite Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,424	Region Lockouts. Now how did we not see that coming? __________________ .. EQ2Wire.com \| EQ2U - Character, Item, Spell, and Guild Data

02-21-2012, 03:55 PM	#7
Banedon_Toran Lord Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 366	OK, putting aside my feeling of gut-wrenching betrayal... Will European players on US Servers be given the ability to also transfer their guild, guild hall and progress so far to the ProSiebenSat servers? Since i'm in the position of being leader of Elements guild on both Freeport and Antonia Bayle (level 60 and 54 respectively) I'd be looking at moving one of those guilds to the ProSiebenSat server and allowing the two halves of our membership to continue the Elements name. __________________ Sorry, Banedon Toran has left EQ2 and SOE games in general. Any interest in setting up a roleplay guild for the upcoming Copernicus/Amalur MMO? Would be based around Euro primetime/US daytime hours, all geo-locations accepted.

02-21-2012, 03:57 PM	#8
Kenazeer Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,178	Arbreth wrote: So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread: Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only. We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors. I am sure SOE will say... "But they can keep playing using their SOE accounts." However: As soon as they need support they will have to create a PSS1 account and WHAM no longer able to play or As soon as they want to use one of the empty slots on their account..WHAM... they will find that they can no longer do this. or They will say...."We said they can continue playing during the TRANSTION..." meaning that the EUROs on the US servers will probably find themselves forced to move at some point in the near future. So SOE will make much of the fact that they are letting existing Euros continue playing on US servers using the SOE accoutn while completely downplaying the limitations and transient nature of that tidbit. So long EUROS....nice to have known you. __________________ Come play EQ2...we have SOEmote, Dungeon Finder, and Dungeon Maker.

02-21-2012, 03:59 PM	#9
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	Arbreth wrote: So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread: Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only. We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors. You won't be losing any Euro players on AB according to this but there will be no new ones, and some will probably go away because they can not get friends and family to sign up and get an account on AB. Like I said over nad over in the initial thread on this the fact that there was a total lack of response to the only real question in there which was about region locking could not possibly be a good thing only be a bad thing. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

02-21-2012, 03:32 PM	#1
Amnerys Community Team Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,317	This thread is for feedback about the ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group FAQ. Please see the ProSiebenSat.1 Games Group FAQ to learn more about the details of the SOE and ProsiebenSat.1 Games Group.

02-21-2012, 03:49 PM	#2
Gravy Lord Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 382	Can players still access the U.S. servers? Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers? U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only. Kind of a big change. Previously a US player could make many characters over the limit by playing on the European servers. It seems like if you are a US player you won't have access to those servers any longer.

02-21-2012, 03:52 PM	#5
Arbreth Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 604	So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread: Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only. We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors.

02-21-2012, 03:52 PM	#6
Gladiolus Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 873	How does this affect new characters on old accounts? Or new accounts by existing customers? Will there be free server transfers?

02-21-2012, 04:02 PM	#10
Buggabug Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 34	Unfortunately this will end my relationship with EQ2 and with SOE. The lack of security with the new company and the switch from SC to the Alaplaya Points is just too much. I'm beyond sad and yes, make fun if you like, shedding some tears over the loss of some pretty special toons.

02-21-2012, 04:03 PM	#11
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	LOL.So SoE merges EQ2X and EQ2Live servers into one system because they "didn't want to divide the player base" and now they divide the player base in an even bigger manner.Wow, illogical reasoning at its finest at SoE, as usual! BRAVO! __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

02-21-2012, 04:04 PM	#12
Avacii Server: Splitpaw Guild: Validus Rank: The Action Boys Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 48	There are countless non-european based players on Splitpaw who, for reasons of their own, do not wish to play at "peak time" in their own timezone and you've just ruined the game for them.When those players are denied their playing times with their Splitpaw guilds do you really think they will transfer to a server which is dead during the times they can play?And this is going to really hurt recruitment for european guilds when you remove the non-european player pool Congratulations on signing the slow death warrant for several more guilds on Splitpaw.

02-21-2012, 04:07 PM	#13
Dungbeard Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	What about Australians who currently play on Splitpaw? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Its always funny until someone gets hurt....Then, its absolutely hilarious

02-21-2012, 04:08 PM	#14
Annaliana Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Acta non Verba Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: north west UK Posts: 9	Can players still access the U.S. servers? Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. I really hope this is true, after 6 years on the US servers, if I could no longer play with the good friends I have made on AB, I'm gone.

02-21-2012, 04:08 PM	#15
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	Dungbeard wrote: What about Australians who currently play on Splitpaw? The SOE/PSS digital wall does not discriminate. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

02-21-2012, 04:10 PM	#16
Ariellia Otaku Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 65	As I'm a US player on AB, this doesn't directly affect me, however, one of the things I loved about playing EQ2 was the opportunity to meet and interact with people with all over the world. AB has a lot of international players, and our guild has members from several different countries, including ones in Europe. We'd have fascinating conversations about our respective countries (for example, when the riots in England were ongoing, it was enlightening to hear first-hand accounts of what was going on), and if I ever make it over to where they live, they are folks I'd love to visit. It makes me kind of sad that SOE is moving towards completely segregating international players. There will be no new players from Europe on AB, and from what I'm reading here, it's likely no European players will be allowed on US servers for EQ3. It's sad since it diminishes the experience of US players like me as well __________________

02-21-2012, 04:11 PM	#17
fatherjules Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 27	all I can say is simply, THIS SUCKS, i have friends, guild mates and raiding colleagues who will be region barred simply because they are based in the US.. for pity sake, this is the World Wide Web... not a euro intranet!

02-21-2012, 04:12 PM	#18
Magpie1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Aberdeen, UK Posts: 105	When Everquest and Everquest II were launched one of their biggest selling points was the fact that they broke down barriers between cultures and allowed us (players) to meet new friends across the world. Indeed it was one of the fundamentally great things about an MMRPG. I spent my early days on a US server due to work commitments in Canada and it was great to be able to keep in touch with my friends at home, via the game, and make new friends in the US. It is a sad, sad day when you deliberately choose to rebuild those barriers and isolate yourselves again. I will dearly miss those friends whom will soon have to leave us. Shame on you SOE, of all the things you have done this one is by far the one that may stick in the gullet just a bit too much. The impact of this decision, I suspect, will be more profound that you realise. __________________

02-21-2012, 04:15 PM	#19
Gladiolus Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 873	I live in Europe and have a station account with characters on Freeport and Splitpaw, as well as in Vanguard. What will I have left when this is finished? I'm not going to keep paying SOE as well as paying ProSieben.

02-21-2012, 04:17 PM	#20
Wurm Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,003	Slimebag move SOE. Thanks for remembering all the US Service Members stationed in Europe who like(d) to play your games. __________________

02-21-2012, 04:17 PM	#21
Onorem Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,155	ProSieben is best known for its TV channels. Does it have the internal teams with the skill-set to support MMO games? ProSiebenSat.1 Games employs highly skilled and passionate MMO players. These skills, combined with the broadcasting and entertainment experience of the ProSiebenSat.1 Group, will be the key to attracting new audiences into SOE games. They have highly skilled and passionate players. Is that what it takes to support an MMO? Broadcasting/entertainment/attracting new players has nothing to do with the question that you wrote for yourself to answer for yourself. Will there be any changes applied to the new Free-to-Play concept or will the games continue to stay Free-to-Play? At SOE, we view free-to-play as a big part of our future and we strive to follow a business model philosophy of Free to Play. Your Way, meaning that the decision is in the players’ hands so they can play the games on their terms. Giving players choices is the theme of how we’re moving forward as a company. Is that a yes or a no? Clearly the cash shop isn't going away, but the canned response doesn't actually answer the question. __________________ _________________________________ "EQ2 is not a "free to play" game, so microtransactions are unlikely to ever have the "front seat" role that they have in F2P games" - SmokeJumper - 4/20/2010

02-21-2012, 04:21 PM	#22
thewarriorpoet Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 235	[email protected] wrote: When Everquest and Everquest II were launched one of their biggest selling points was the fact that they broke down barriers between cultures and allowed us (players) to meet new friends across the world. Indeed it was one of the fundamentally great things about an MMRPG. I spent my early days on a US server due to work commitments in Canada and it was great to be able to keep in touch with my friends at home, via the game, and make new friends in the US. It is a sad, sad day when you deliberately choose to rebuild those barriers and isolate yourselves again. I will dearly miss those friends whom will soon have to leave us. Shame on you SOE, of all the things you have done this one is by far the one that may stick in the gullet just a bit too much. The impact of this decision, I suspect, will be more profound that you realise. Exactly! We were fed some line about how going FTP on all servers was in the best interest of everyone because it pulled down the walls seperating the players. Now, it isn't that I disagree (I actually agree with that), but how can you realize that and then do this?!?! what the heck SOE, get yoru stuff together and educate the execs making the aweful decisions.

02-21-2012, 04:22 PM	#23
Finora Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,423	feldon30 wrote: Region Lockouts. Now how did we not see that coming? I saw it coming soon as they announced the ProSieben thing to begin with. I was hoping it wouldn't be but I really feared it would. I find it awful. One of the best things over the years with SOE games was that you could play with people from all over the world. I'm very disappointed that it's come to this. __________________ Lady Finora Mystic of Prism Everfrost(Grobb) Finora of Valiant Knights Test Server

02-21-2012, 04:23 PM	#24
Wurm Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,003	Onorem wrote: ProSieben is best known for its TV channels. Does it have the internal teams with the skill-set to support MMO games? ProSiebenSat.1 Games employs highly skilled and passionate MMO players. These skills, combined with the broadcasting and entertainment experience of the ProSiebenSat.1 Group, will be the key to attracting new audiences into SOE games. They have highly skilled and passionate players. Is that what it takes to support an MMO? Broadcasting/entertainment/attracting new players has nothing to do with the question that you wrote for yourself to answer for yourself. I play one of Pro7's "FTP" Korean MMO games on and off when I'm bored and their support is horrid. This was a serious mistake on SOE's part, they are going to lose a lot of players over this for no good reason at all. __________________

02-21-2012, 04:24 PM	#25
Concordant Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 44	Arbreth wrote: So the answer to the question I saw most relevance and anxiety from the other thread: Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only. We have many Euros that play on AB and I would hate to lose even one of them due to a locking of the doors. +1 This game unites people across the world. That should stay the way it is. SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 loose if they make restrictions like this.

02-21-2012, 04:24 PM	#26
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02-21-2012, 04:25 PM	#27
jabberwocke Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3	Amnerys, can we please get some answers? My girlfriend lives in the US, I'm in the UK, this means that she cannot come play on splitpaw? Simple question, please can I have a simple answer Also if you want feedback, I think this is just crazy, but do you care SOE?

02-21-2012, 04:26 PM	#28
soulsercher Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 81	so, when's the funeral exactly? The region lock will now most likely keep many people from ever even trying this game. Good job.

02-21-2012, 04:28 PM	#29
Onorem Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,155	jabberwocke wrote: Amnerys, can we please get some answers? My girlfriend lives in the US, I'm in the UK, this means that she cannot come play on splitpaw? Simple question, please can I have a simple answer, From the FAQ, it's a simple no...but I'm rooting for you. Hope you played a character on a US server at some point. Best of luck to you. Hope you don't have to find a new game to continue to play with each other. __________________ _________________________________ "EQ2 is not a "free to play" game, so microtransactions are unlikely to ever have the "front seat" role that they have in F2P games" - SmokeJumper - 4/20/2010

02-21-2012, 04:30 PM	#30
MurFalad Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tonbridge, UK Posts: 1,360	This change will kill off our raiding alliance as we have US and international players who join in, and longterm it will also kill off Splitpaw since quite a few US players like the freedom to be able to play somewhere else either to get better hours or a different userbase, I forsee Splitpaw being a backwater since anyone created there is cutoff from the rest of the player base. This also means battlegrounds are gone, and any other cross server mechanics will no longer benefit the european servers, we won't even be able to chat. This game has been running for 7 years without these restrictions, to change all this now is going to be very very bad for EQ2.