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Old 10-16-2011, 02:27 AM   #1
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I just wanted to show my appreciation for the changes that were made for BGs. I feel like as a community, we ask for a lot but give little in return. Therefore, I wanted to go ahead and give a +1 to the work the Devs put in SMILEY

What it did:

-Have not seen any 90s in lower lvl bg matches since fix.

-matchmaking system seems to be more fair, haven't gotten into a 1v6 or any other absurd ratio.

-Gears! This match is finally alive again SMILEY (However...see below)

What still remains:

-whenever a match invite comes up, or whenever alt z is clicked, the names of the maps are in different languages (usually German or French) Probably just a coding error.

-While the ratio system has become much better, the MATCHmaking system didn't seem to have improved. Rather than just Frozen Tundra, it's now just Gears. Keep working at the system, I'm sure something will work out.

-Sometimes when you zone, you become "un-queued" to a match. Fixing this would be a great help.

Again, keep up the good work!

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Old 10-17-2011, 04:06 PM   #2
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The matchmaker is still messed up, especially in Gears. Instead of 1v6 now, you get groups with like 4 tanks/2healers vs. no tanks/no healers most of the time now. Makes most BGs a complete shut-out for one side, you cant kill the tanks due to all the healers, and you can't get to the relic due to all the knockdowns the tanks have. I'm still seeing a lot of people quitting BG matches, this time for the crazy one-sided matches instead of 90s showing up. Its sad, when the teams are more equal, you get good matches that are fun even if you lose. At least you know you had a chance.

As far as getting all Gears matches, the solution was found a long time ago when BGs were first added. You mostly got gears then too, and the players had a solution, but SOE just ignored it. The fix is too increase the number of tokens you get for running the longer BGs. Gears 3/1, Ganak 4/2, Smugglers 5/3 etc.

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Old 10-17-2011, 09:26 PM   #3
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[email protected] Bayle wrote:

The matchmaker is still messed up, especially in Gears. Instead of 1v6 now, you get groups with like 4 tanks/2healers vs. no tanks/no healers most of the time now. Makes most BGs a complete shut-out for one side, you cant kill the tanks due to all the healers, and you can't get to the relic due to all the knockdowns the tanks have. I'm still seeing a lot of people quitting BG matches, this time for the crazy one-sided matches instead of 90s showing up. Its sad, when the teams are more equal, you get good matches that are fun even if you lose. At least you know you had a chance.

As far as getting all Gears matches, the solution was found a long time ago when BGs were first added. You mostly got gears then too, and the players had a solution, but SOE just ignored it. The fix is too increase the number of tokens you get for running the longer BGs. Gears 3/1, Ganak 4/2, Smugglers 5/3 etc.

The matchmaker has never worked that way and tbh, it never should.  If you want a tank and a healer in your group, then pregroup.  Many times I've won in groups without a healer and without a tank -- it's a part of the challenge.  As far as adjusting token rewards to encourage different BGs and balance the rewards with the time spent, I'd go with what you suggested, but that's unlikely to happen.  Your best bet is to say on your server chat channels or /shout in Champion's Respite to queue for a BG you prefer ONLY (that isn't Gears/Tundra, ie the daily mission might get people to comply).

As much as I'd like to second the OP in gratitude for devs finally working on this, an equal part of me just wants to say 'it's about fk'ing time' and rant for how long and how bad things have been in the past half year w/ no regard and no comment from devs. 

I'll just say -- it's a big step in the right direction.

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Old 10-17-2011, 11:21 PM   #4
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To be clear, the BGs are nowhere near where they were at the height of their popularity (not even close!), but there is some activity now, which is a drastic improvement.

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Old 10-19-2011, 01:25 AM   #5
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Again, while things may not be as good as we want, we need to remember that working together is the only way things will be fixed.

I would also have to disagree with the poster that talked about the matchmaking system including a tank, healer, etc. When I que for BGs, I am not going to want to wait 20+ minutes just because a certain match is looking for a certain archtype. Even if the match is heavily unbalanced, I'd rather play something than nothing.

However, while I believe having a higher token amount for the larger maps will be an incentive, it isn't the most effective. Smuggler's Den takes 24 people. That's a lot. It's going to take a bit of time to get it filled, so the system should be programed to first find out HOW many people are queing for a certain match, (such as gears) and if it over-excedes the amount available, instead of making multiple gears matches, the extra players should be put into a ganak or smugglers den.

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Old 10-20-2011, 07:30 PM   #6
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3 times now I have tried BG & have been put on an unassigned team as well as many other people who were put there with me & stuck until SoE moved me out. Thank you? I think you should have typed You. Bunch of morons running the game here in EQ.

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:12 PM   #7
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V-I-I-I-X-I-I-V wrote:

3 times now I have tried BG & have been put on an unassigned team as well as many other people who were put there with me & stuck until SoE moved me out. Thank you? I think you should have typed You. Bunch of morons running the game here in EQ.

To be clear, I don't think anyone would claim that battlegrounds are working 100% properly.  The fact is though that a couple of weeks ago they weren't working AT ALL.  The matchmaker had totally ground to a halt, would take 30 minutes + between BGs even when there were enough people queuing to at least do a klakanon, and then after waiting 30 minutes you would be stuck in the middle of frozen tundra on no team.

At least now you get klaks popping up all the time, with the occasional ganaks and smugglers again.  It's not a constant succession of 5 v 5 frozen tundra.

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Old 10-21-2011, 03:18 PM   #8
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I haven't been in the BGs in a long time. Sounds like I should check them out again. I'd love for them to return to their former glory, but I think the only way that will happen is if the gear you buy can be used in PvE - Deverel
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:15 AM   #9
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I had to /petition for several toons on nagafen being stuck when I tried to go back to the server. Strangely, my toon on a PvE server was able to go in/out with no problem. 

I really wish they'd just roll back bgs pre-GU60.  Champion's Respite is a disaster and has been from day one.

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