light at the end of the tunnel

armus5 · 06-20-2006, 06:48 AM

I finally did it and boy am i surprised. I betray to zerker and it's amazing. Yes friends, and let me tell you it wasnt easy. You have to do 12 solo instances with the potential for ads as every turn. And for me, two white con solos is too much at lvl53.

There's a trick to betraying though, until SOE nerfs it.

The bottom line is after all is said and done, I walked into RV as a zerker with app1 spells and right off the bat killed a green heroic. Oh sure, it's green and no big deal, but my guard could never have done it. I'm pulling off insane dps with auto attack that my guard would have had to spam for. It's really nice and I recommend it to anyone.

TanRaistlyn · 06-20-2006, 06:50 AM

No thanks enjoy your new toon.

danmuntz · 06-20-2006, 07:39 AM

armus550 wrote:

The bottom line is after all is said and done, I walked into RV as a zerker with app1 spells and right off the bat killed a green heroic. Oh sure, it's green and no big deal, but my guard could never have done it. I'm pulling off insane dps with auto attack that my guard would have had to spam for. It's really nice and I recommend it to anyone.

Sounds to me like you didn't know how to play your guard. I can solo green ^^^ heroics all day long with mine.That said, have fun being a zerker, hope that class fits you better.

Sirlutt · 06-20-2006, 08:26 AM

same here.i noticed a world of diff betraying my ranger to assassin .. but for the job i'm doing i dont think the Zerker would be an upgrade.good luck though.

beliker · 06-20-2006, 08:50 AM

I had accually planned to betray from Zerker to Guard, but alas its on a pvp server and im terribly lazy so I decided not too =p

Eiser · 06-20-2006, 09:45 AM

Good luck and enjoy. But I am Guardian. Yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Ragganar · 06-20-2006, 10:39 AM

The thing with guardians is u Really need to know how to play them.

the class isnt easy.

but i know that when u learn the class , the spell timers , how to time your group buffs and defensive buffs and the right combination on offensive spell + which to upgrade. u fall inlove with the class.

gurdian is not for everyone.

i love mine.

Docimodo · 06-20-2006, 10:43 AM

<3 guardian SMILEY

KeandraD · 06-20-2006, 11:20 AM

Well, I play my guardian just as I play my zerker SMILEY

Perhaps it'll change when I come up a few more levels, only 25 atm, but I'm ninjapulling like crazy and let the dps finish the job SMILEY

(zerker with one-hander and shield aint much of dps either)

Ragganar wrote:
The thing with guardians is u Really need to know how to play them.

the class isnt easy.

but i know that when u learn the class , the spell timers , how to time your group buffs and defensive buffs and the right combination on offensive spell + which to upgrade. u fall inlove with the class.

gurdian is not for everyone.

i love mine.

Terron · 06-20-2006, 04:39 PM

danmuntz wrote:
Sounds to me like you didn't know how to play your guard. I can solo green ^^^ heroics all day long with mine.

With App 1 spells? I can kill most green ^^^ heroics with my guard, but I have mostly adept Is with a few adept IIIs.

Berek_IronAxe · 06-20-2006, 07:06 PM

Good Luck with your Zerker - But Guard's rock -Will be one until they throw me out of the game. Green Heroics are easy with a Guard but thats neither here nor there. Have fun and see you on the Battlefield.

Wasuna · 06-20-2006, 07:57 PM

Ragganar wrote:

The thing with guardians is u Really need to know how to play them.

the class isnt easy.

but i know that when u learn the class , the spell timers , how to time your group buffs and defensive buffs and the right combination on offensive spell + which to upgrade. u fall inlove with the class.

gurdian is not for everyone.

i love mine.

Oh please. If you really have to know how to play a Guardian to be able to do something a total newbie in a different class can do with all ap 1's then that says something right there.

Peloton · 06-20-2006, 07:59 PM

Can I have your stuff?.............................doh wrong response again.

Good luck with your new class,

Ep · 06-20-2006, 11:14 PM

if you betrayed to zerker, read thishttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=23418

digitalblasphemy · 06-21-2006, 12:51 AM

Betrayed and loving it. I was always a more offensive Guardian anyway so really probably should have chosen to be a Zerker from day one. I do take more damage as a Zerker, but that's prob down to me being in offensive and having a buckler equipped. But to the comments about not knowing how to play your class, that's not really the case. I noticed an improvement as a new Zerker with only App1 spells while soloing vs my Adept3s/Masters as a Guard. I had 1000hp less than my Guard, less avoidance and yet I was in better shape than in previous times soloing as a Guard. This isn't down to skill, it's down to the spells. So any notion that you are a noob or don't know how to play your class is not correct. Anyway, I'm very very happy after the betrayal, apart from losing my Buddy.

R2Chie · 06-23-2006, 06:32 PM

glad to see you saw the light SMILEY

JNewby · 06-23-2006, 10:03 PM

danmuntz wrote:

armus550 wrote:

The bottom line is after all is said and done, I walked into RV as a zerker with app1 spells and right off the bat killed a green heroic. Oh sure, it's green and no big deal, but my guard could never have done it. I'm pulling off insane dps with auto attack that my guard would have had to spam for. It's really nice and I recommend it to anyone.

Sounds to me like you didn't know how to play your guard. I can solo green ^^^ heroics all day long with mine.

That said, have fun being a zerker, hope that class fits you better.

uhh not realls as he obviosuly doesnt know how to play his zerker and has all app1 spells... it is obvious it is easyier for that class....

Grey-Cat · 06-25-2006, 10:06 PM

I also betrayed my guard to a zerker and am very happy with the change. I was able to do something with my brand new zerker I was never able to do with my guard. I beat the champion in splitpaw. I mst have tried that 15 times back before I quit playing my guard. I did it with my zerker and I haven't even learned how to play her at all yet. To those of you who are considering betraying your guard, I would defiantely say go for it. I certinaly don't regret it.

Raahl · 06-26-2006, 07:19 PM

You do realize that light is the Sony Nerf train, right? SMILEY

Have fun while it lasts.

Terron · 06-26-2006, 07:28 PM

The Splitpaw champion was not a serious problem for my guard, though I was in my last 40s when I got the pack. I can solo most ^^^ green heroics. though I tend not so as they take so long. There were some in RV that would beat me even though I was 10 levels higher. I haven't been there for a couple of levels though,

Storm_Runner · 06-26-2006, 08:12 PM

I switched my guard to a zerker also and so far I'm liking it. I decided to do it for a couple of reasons. First is I solo a lot so being able to kill faster helps a lot. The 2nd reason is that, after playing many alts, I discovered I just prefer that more offensive role. That's really all it boils down to for any of us really. We find the class/play style that fits us and then we run with it.

06-20-2006, 07:39 AM	#3
danmuntz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 95	armus550 wrote: The bottom line is after all is said and done, I walked into RV as a zerker with app1 spells and right off the bat killed a green heroic. Oh sure, it's green and no big deal, but my guard could never have done it. I'm pulling off insane dps with auto attack that my guard would have had to spam for. It's really nice and I recommend it to anyone. Sounds to me like you didn't know how to play your guard. I can solo green ^^^ heroics all day long with mine.That said, have fun being a zerker, hope that class fits you better. __________________

06-20-2006, 08:26 AM	#4
Sirlutt Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,149	same here.i noticed a world of diff betraying my ranger to assassin .. but for the job i'm doing i dont think the Zerker would be an upgrade.good luck though. __________________ I heart DE Broads

06-20-2006, 09:45 AM	#6
Eiser Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 56	Good luck and enjoy. But I am Guardian. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. __________________ Eiser WÃ¤chter und Holzarbeiter Guardian and Woodworker Ihr sagt zu {np,sx=m}\22150\|(get),"In Ordnung."

06-20-2006, 10:43 AM	#8
Docimodo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 246	<3 guardian __________________

06-20-2006, 11:20 AM	#9
KeandraD Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 99	Well, I play my guardian just as I play my zerker Perhaps it'll change when I come up a few more levels, only 25 atm, but I'm ninjapulling like crazy and let the dps finish the job (zerker with one-hander and shield aint much of dps either) Ragganar wrote: The thing with guardians is u Really need to know how to play them. the class isnt easy. but i know that when u learn the class , the spell timers , how to time your group buffs and defensive buffs and the right combination on offensive spell + which to upgrade. u fall inlove with the class. gurdian is not for everyone. i love mine.

06-20-2006, 06:48 AM	#1
armus5 General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 116	I finally did it and boy am i surprised. I betray to zerker and it's amazing. Yes friends, and let me tell you it wasnt easy. You have to do 12 solo instances with the potential for ads as every turn. And for me, two white con solos is too much at lvl53. There's a trick to betraying though, until SOE nerfs it. The bottom line is after all is said and done, I walked into RV as a zerker with app1 spells and right off the bat killed a green heroic. Oh sure, it's green and no big deal, but my guard could never have done it. I'm pulling off insane dps with auto attack that my guard would have had to spam for. It's really nice and I recommend it to anyone.

06-20-2006, 06:50 AM	#2
TanRaistlyn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 472	No thanks enjoy your new toon.

06-20-2006, 08:50 AM	#5
beliker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 124	I had accually planned to betray from Zerker to Guard, but alas its on a pvp server and im terribly lazy so I decided not too =p

06-20-2006, 10:39 AM	#7
Ragganar Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 65	The thing with guardians is u Really need to know how to play them. the class isnt easy. but i know that when u learn the class , the spell timers , how to time your group buffs and defensive buffs and the right combination on offensive spell + which to upgrade. u fall inlove with the class. gurdian is not for everyone. i love mine.

06-20-2006, 04:39 PM	#10
Terron Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, England Posts: 2,309	danmuntz wrote: Sounds to me like you didn't know how to play your guard. I can solo green ^^^ heroics all day long with mine. With App 1 spells? I can kill most green ^^^ heroics with my guard, but I have mostly adept Is with a few adept IIIs. __________________

06-20-2006, 07:06 PM	#11
Berek_IronAxe Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 181	Good Luck with your Zerker - But Guard's rock -Will be one until they throw me out of the game. Green Heroics are easy with a Guard but thats neither here nor there. Have fun and see you on the Battlefield. __________________ Berek Ironaxe: 70th Dwarven Guardian, Member: Dark Crusaders Rivenn Firestorm: 59th Human Wizard Tahlathire Wildrunner: 49th Wood Elf Ranger Nektulos Server

06-20-2006, 07:57 PM	#12
Wasuna Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,222	Ragganar wrote: The thing with guardians is u Really need to know how to play them. the class isnt easy. but i know that when u learn the class , the spell timers , how to time your group buffs and defensive buffs and the right combination on offensive spell + which to upgrade. u fall inlove with the class. gurdian is not for everyone. i love mine. Oh please. If you really have to know how to play a Guardian to be able to do something a total newbie in a different class can do with all ap 1's then that says something right there. __________________ The definition of Crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

06-20-2006, 07:59 PM	#13
Peloton Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 8	Can I have your stuff?.............................doh wrong response again. Good luck with your new class, __________________

06-20-2006, 11:14 PM	#14
Ep General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 435	if you betrayed to zerker, read thishttp://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=4&message.id=23418 __________________ --- Sir Auron

06-21-2006, 12:51 AM	#15
digitalblasphemy Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 274	Betrayed and loving it. I was always a more offensive Guardian anyway so really probably should have chosen to be a Zerker from day one. I do take more damage as a Zerker, but that's prob down to me being in offensive and having a buckler equipped. But to the comments about not knowing how to play your class, that's not really the case. I noticed an improvement as a new Zerker with only App1 spells while soloing vs my Adept3s/Masters as a Guard. I had 1000hp less than my Guard, less avoidance and yet I was in better shape than in previous times soloing as a Guard. This isn't down to skill, it's down to the spells. So any notion that you are a noob or don't know how to play your class is not correct. Anyway, I'm very very happy after the betrayal, apart from losing my Buddy.

06-23-2006, 06:32 PM	#16
R2Chie General Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 99	glad to see you saw the light __________________

06-23-2006, 10:03 PM	#17
JNewby Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 644	danmuntz wrote: armus550 wrote: The bottom line is after all is said and done, I walked into RV as a zerker with app1 spells and right off the bat killed a green heroic. Oh sure, it's green and no big deal, but my guard could never have done it. I'm pulling off insane dps with auto attack that my guard would have had to spam for. It's really nice and I recommend it to anyone. Sounds to me like you didn't know how to play your guard. I can solo green ^^^ heroics all day long with mine. That said, have fun being a zerker, hope that class fits you better. uhh not realls as he obviosuly doesnt know how to play his zerker and has all app1 spells... it is obvious it is easyier for that class....

06-25-2006, 10:06 PM	#18
Grey-Cat Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 65	I also betrayed my guard to a zerker and am very happy with the change. I was able to do something with my brand new zerker I was never able to do with my guard. I beat the champion in splitpaw. I mst have tried that 15 times back before I quit playing my guard. I did it with my zerker and I haven't even learned how to play her at all yet. To those of you who are considering betraying your guard, I would defiantely say go for it. I certinaly don't regret it.

06-26-2006, 07:19 PM	#19
Raahl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,792	You do realize that light is the Sony Nerf train, right? Have fun while it lasts. __________________ R.I.P. Najena Cougaar - 90 Dirge Corwin - 90 Guardian Raahl - 30 something Templar Kilped - 70'ish Ranger

06-26-2006, 07:28 PM	#20
Terron Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, England Posts: 2,309	The Splitpaw champion was not a serious problem for my guard, though I was in my last 40s when I got the pack. I can solo most ^^^ green heroics. though I tend not so as they take so long. There were some in RV that would beat me even though I was 10 levels higher. I haven't been there for a couple of levels though, __________________

06-26-2006, 08:12 PM	#21
Storm_Runner Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 131	I switched my guard to a zerker also and so far I'm liking it. I decided to do it for a couple of reasons. First is I solo a lot so being able to kill faster helps a lot. The 2nd reason is that, after playing many alts, I discovered I just prefer that more offensive role. That's really all it boils down to for any of us really. We find the class/play style that fits us and then we run with it. __________________ Balyn - Barbarian Berserker; Tuatha - Fae Swashbuckler Krishall - Kerran Ranger; Leejon - Gnome Conjuror Kruhl - Ogre Bruiser; Sthyss - Iksar Fury Residents of Butcherblock